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every scornful insult tier list

I did not see this one coming xD

An event tier list would go hard.

Finally getting down to the important topics.

I actually choked on my drink when I read the video title

Let's make every trade center tier list (that exist in 1444 and that can be created through missions)

That one about the advisors has made me scratch my head whenever I see it - because in my mind the advisors gives me points (as the primary function) and then the speciality is the added extra.

This is how you know it’s time for EU5. If the tier lists are now to the loading screens, content has been exhausted

Now you need to do a tierlist of all the loading screens

Loading screen tip 6 is something I didnt know for years....... I would always first go into the province view and then click on the country flag.

Lemon cake, do you hate yourself?

Dude never misses. Another critical video to play while I get stomped by very hard diff ottomans with quantity.

This tierlist is wonderful. Actually showing what you are talking about is a 9000x increase compared to having a trade note tierlist where the viewer has to constantly needs to have the game open to check where things are.

Sure. What the hell. I’ll watch it.

Haha, another fun Lemon Cake video... Wait, HOW LONG IS IT?!

War exhaustion is actually very useful if you want to get the "court and country" (or whatever it's called) disaster. By the time of absolutism you're pretty much incapable of getting to positive unrest unless you fully occupy an enemy and then just ignore the surrender deals until you reach +1 unrest from the exhaustion. Yeah, it's not going to be useful every game but don't underestimate how important +20 max absolutism can be for republics, especially since most of the best republican gov reforms cost max absolutism.

You should definitely make that video about DLC features. As someone relatively new to the game, and got all of the DLC with the humble bundle, there's so much I don't know about what I even have in the DLC.

Bro is STALLING on the national ideas tier list

When it comes to the monarch point generation limmit, remember that tributaries can give you more monarch points on a yearly basis. Even as a non-East Asian religion nation, you can still get tributaries by full annexing a country that had tributaries (just like you gain a vassal if you annex their overlord).

The "right click on a province to open diplomacy" tip is rather useful in a game with otherwuse ENTIRELY left click controls. Until I saw that loading screen tip i didnt even know there was any rigt click functionality in the game

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honestly, this is my favourite video you ever made, brilliant idea

The thing about winter attrition is actually really helpful if there aren't forts to siege, and you're just walking through siberia. It HURTS to do in winter, and is basically fine otherwise. So, fall back to your fort sieges or occupied provinces, instead of marching deeper into the white death. This was even more relevant back before ZoC forts. The Overseas don't give Overextension bit used to be outright true back when it was written. The "no overextension from colonized land" thing exists because fresh colonies used to not be cored.

Overextension is also just a number. Maybe a bit trickier, but 300-500% overextension is also just a number... (Pretty handleable if you have massive tolerance to true faith and unrest, aka you are the true religion, Jadd, or if you are an OPM Ottoman with eyalets)

The best tip for me has awlways been "even after several thousands of hours you can still discover new mechanics" I its not exactly what they said but it was something like that and it could not be any more true

The only time I've been able to declare a coalition war on the AI is after France got burgundy as a PU in a war

Time to leave 40k stack in Tibet to make use of some of these tips

Why have you razed the audio quality, is it really worth the MP?

To be fair, with tip 2 regarding attrition, it doesn't say "It is a good idea to walk off from sieges in winter". It says "It MIGHT be better to pull back". In a situation where you're about to invade, say, Russia, and waiting 2 more months to push your battle armies in could avoid January/February attrition, it MIGHT actually be good advice. The wording is only suggestive, it invites situationality. At the very least, it clues players into the fact that more winter = more attrition.

never knew i needed this video

Oh god, I never knew you could right click countries to go to diplomacy! I only every left click then left click their shield icon!

You need to do a tech level tier list. Either do one list with all the three techs, or do three lists for each tech

Damn I actually learnt more than I care to admit watching this

Choosing the idea groups carefully is a a tier tip for people that lack a certain dlc (no clue which one) that allows you to cancel idea groups. I found this out the hard way, that in a game with no dlc you cannot abandon idea groups once you have taken them even when you havent taken any ides.

Nice video!

If you haven't done it yet a region tier list could be fun. Anatolia, Balkans ect. Value of the provinces inside, benefits and challenges from playing in/conquering the region ect.

Great idea! Peak EU4 content! But! Whats wrong with 4-8 years republic election cycle tip? I always thought it was right. Do you have issue with the one Italian reform, that givess you 12 years cycle? Or the one without election cycle, like the Venetian one or dictatorship? Or the fact, you can have elections every 3 years with T2 reform? Sheet. Now I see your point and I feel bad about my favorit tip. Sad EU4 noises.

Best idea soo far

I don't know how you can say that advisors giving mana isn't obvious when there's literally a number right next to the portrait but then immediately after say that the way an end node works, which is what makes them the best nodes in the game, is obvious. For a new player, I don't think end nodes not having connections is that obvious, especially because the only way to tell is by looking at the map in trade view.

Disagree with the light ship one, if you are in a good trade node like the english channel light ship spam does give you a very good return on investment. And when you have taken over the trade node just move them downstream

cant wait for some ship trade power stacking

1:14:08 kinda true, IRL you want to get trust to banks (taking loans of easily obvious things that you can pay back to be able to take credit for sure bets (like financining a house or a apartment, or to do something like that) but definitly not take a loan for something that is a risky bet, it is good to have a "good payer" fame with banks rather than being a wildcard and to create that you need to take safe loans, but overral do not take loans they make the thing you want to buy expensier most of the time.

On your response to tip #6 (right-clicking to get to a country's diplo screen) I think you missed the point. What would happen when you right click is not automatically intuitive to a new player. If you didn't know that, to get to a nation's diplo screen you have to use more menus and clicks (Either going to your own diplo tab and finding them in the list; or left clicking on one of their provinces and then pressing the diplomacy button on there; or right-clicking on the nation's flag)

Great video

Oh my God. I can't believe there's a tierlist for this. i'm laughing my ass off!!!

Now *this* is epic

If there's a "teching is not always a viable option" tip it should be S tier. As a Stellaris player if I ever started playing EU4 that information would have had to been drilled into my skull for me to absorb it

4:03 Usually siege break off especially in winter because the threat of mutiny. But here, your army are 100% loyal so of course continuing the siege is better. :v

A dlc tier list/ranking would be fun

I find it funny that you gave "Loading Tip 6" a D ranking when I wasn't even aware of it, and I've got nearly 5k hours in the game. This entire time I've just been left clicking on a province and then clicking the "diplomacy" button on the province window, when I could have just been right-clicking the province. I don't think I've ever even seen that loading tip, or if I have I didn't understand what it was actually saying (which I don't think you fully understood what it was actually saying either.)

Good pont with 74 and listing innovative as another example

We’re beating playmaker with this one 🔥 🔥 🔥

"Don't conquer all your enemy's provinces in one war" - I have always thought it to be more of a warning about aggressive expansion than overextension and it kinda covers both. Also policies tier list when?

Also some Italian elections are 11 years. Did a Ferrara game recently

1:02:49 This tip made me think for the longest time that being a rival gives you decreased war score cost vs rivals

Ok i feel the right click thingie on a spiritual level and i have a lot of hours in eu4 . I also dont think i have ever seen that message Maybe i just forgot this was a thing .I pretty much always clicked the province and then the shield.

I think #51 "mercenaries help you save manpower" is actually a pretty good tip for a beginner. It isn't necessarily obvious that that's the true benefit of mercenaries. Some beginners might think of them as a bonus for when you're rich, or to build when you've run out of manpower already - rather than realizing that they're important to use proactively so that their separate manpower pool soaks up casualties and attrition for you.

The advisor one. On my first game, my friend was "yeah im making 16 mana points each a month" And then there was me, making 9 because he never told me about privileges and how advisors worked

This is a genius idea

Would like a modifier tier list Maybe divide it into 3 parts for the admin dip and mil modifiers (through where they are in the ideas area of custom nation editor) Also maybe consolidate ones so you dont have to rate manpower modifier and manpower in true faith provinces and manpower in accepted culture provinces etc etc

Best video ever

Custom nation idea modifiers, split into admin, diplo and mil videos.

I literally had no idea about tip #6, and I have almost 2000 hours in that game lol

4) 9:00 they probably meant coalitions more than overextension. As it is the bane of newer players. 30:03 it'd be nice if in such mechanics hitting a cap would give you an extra malus 47:59 not goods produced but production efficiency. The same amount of goods flows to the trade with 0% or 100% autonomy. (would post a link to wiki but YT deletes such comments) you can look at "production efficiency" as an irl tax and "goods produced" as irl production efficiency If a local government doesn't send any tax to the federal government, your businesses still work the same. 53) 1:02:50 you also pay less dip for unclaimed provinces, maybe they meant that 58) 1:07:28 it also increases war score cost, maybe it was that 89) should have been "delete" button erases your save file)) 100) I'd say that

What’s the timestamp for the giraffe hint? I’ll listen to the whole thing anyways but I really want to see the ranking for the giraffe one

Watching till the end

We need all provinces in alphabetic order + during all start dates tier list.

I had a ridiculous 5 gigs worth of savegames, and I only started noticing when trying to open the save game menu started really slowing down.

Had no idea about the shift-right click to disable notification😂

We need a EU4 flag/COA tier list

I don't know about the trade power one, not only does it mean you can steal trade in multiplayer without going to war, but it also means you can steal value from trade nodes you don't control and don't want to conquer, such as a non colonial France game where you want to focus on Europe, or are busy taking the new world. This is especially true if you are playing the Netherlands and you have the special light ship which is just the best ship in the game, which you will build anyway.

We got loading screen tips tierlist before national ideas tier list 💀 Unironically tho, if you were to make a NI tier list, would you do 1 mega list or would you go 1 continent at a time then maybe make a last one comparing all the S tiers against each other?

I suspect that the reason behind tip #67 calling them national ideas was that it was written early in the game's history by someone more familiar with EU3. The last expansion of EU3 added loading screen tips to that game, and in EU3, there were no unique idea sets for each country, but rather "national ideas" that were really like what regular ideas are in EU4. You accessed them pretty much the same way (certain admin tech levels gave you access to more) but instead of sets of 7, you only picked 1. Obviously much less "build" diversity and unique country flavor back then!

Autonomy doesnt decrease goods produced, only production efficiency, important for trade

All the tips are supposed to be for new players. When I was a new player I didn’t read any of them. So I attempted the tutorial, and it’s broken so I got stuck and couldn’t get past something involving boats, I looked it up and it was a common bug that hasn’t ever been fixed. So I and I assume everyone, has to learn by doing

I definitely start to feel a twinge at 400% overextension.

I'm not quite understanding the comment on tip 57. You said that fleets get more expensive from technology but armies are weird. But armies also become more expensive by 2% each technology. Is this the case where I know more than the youtuber? Or when you said that their cost depends mostly on the size of the army you meant that the smaller part is that 2%?

unit models tier list

19:20 is actually kind of important when you're doing half states and you forget you're doing half states and you take 2000 overextension and then theres actually 20 provinces getting turned into a full core and then your 6 month coring time is now actually 12 months and every single province with seperatists spawns rebels. also its stupid that coring a province directly into a full state costs double the time. it just is stupid. no one can convince me otherwise.

Best flag tier list, although byz is gonna be S tier, we all know that ❤

centre of trade/esturary provinces tier list when /j

Like it or not but this is peak EU4

Eu4 unit type tier list

Someone should do this for Call of Duty death quotes.

trade ships ain't that bad tbh. taking over Lubeck military as England takes time and AE so you might put lights in the meantime and when you are done just move them to Baltic. There is always a trade node you want to have more trade power in and you can't be everywhere in a blink of an eye but your ships can. also you get naval traditions which means trade steering and a. lot of it at that and imo it's the best or the second best eco modifier you can get. and of course you can use them for naval warfare but they are just better cogs so kinda meh

Whens the tier list for every single nation at the start date?

Over 1K hours in and I never tried to right click on a province

Now just loading screens

4 hours session before you need to get food? Rookie numbers.

Update patch name tier list please

3:20 Napoleon circa 1812

Rank the Victorum Universalis loading screen tips

Would be awesome if there was a mod that removes all tips that are C tier and below

Full tier list of every province when?

Don't knock light ships too much. That way you can increase trade income faster than you can conquer. Conquest is limited by core creation costs, AE, money, manpower, and being too weak to fight the opponent. Light ships are limited by money, sailors, and naval force limit. They require mostly separate resource pools, so why not do both at the same time?

Regions to colonize next?

Do the same thing but from the VU mod

Dawg