The Consensus Reference Recordings of Beethoven

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Gil Zilkha Essential Classical Music

17 күн бұрын

Gil Zilkha, singer/collector/music enthusiast
In this installment of Essential Classical Music, I cover the consensus reference recordings of the major Beethoven works. This video is taken from my larger video covering the consensus reference recordings of the core classical music repertoire.
Featured works:
Symphony No. 3 “Eroica”
Symphonies Nos. 5 & 7
Symphony No. 6 “Pastoral”
Symphony No. 9 "Choral"
Piano Concerto No. 4
Piano Concerto No. 5 "Emperor"
Violin Concerto
String Quartets
Piano Trio No. 7 "Archduke”
Violin Sonata No. 9 "Kreutzer"
Piano Sonatas
Missa Solemnis

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@martinhaub6828 15 күн бұрын

The more I listen to Hermann Scherchen's Beethoven symphony set on DG, the more impressed I get. Those recordings have certainly changed my view of what I thought were the "best". Thrilling music making that you don't hear anymore.

@kwoktungchan1345 7 сағат бұрын

I agree with you

@geraldmartin7703 15 күн бұрын

The "reference" Beethoven Symphony #5 in the monophonic era was Erich Kleiber's with the Concertgebouw. I've often wondered if that factored into critics' being enamoured of son's stereo recording. (I have both and prefer Fricsay).

@jaykauffman4775 15 күн бұрын

Note the EMI release of the 51 Furtwangler is edited. However the actual undoctored broadcast is now available.

@GilZilkha 15 күн бұрын

Correct, on Orfeo. Although the newest Warner remastering is pretty good, and there is even an excellent Tahra transfer featuring the Big 3 of ‘42, ‘51, and ‘54.

@jaykauffman4775 15 күн бұрын

@@GilZilkha Tahra did great work. Fortunately we still have great engineers like Ward Marston and Mark Obert-Thorn to make some of these historic reference recordings sound really good. Pristine and Immortal Performances also do wonderful work. So enjoy your videos best. Jay

@frankgyure3154 15 күн бұрын

Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra.

@wkasimer 15 күн бұрын

Some of these consensus picks seem more like "consensus error" to me.

@jaykauffman4775 15 күн бұрын

Ha. That reminds me that I always thought a rosette in the Penguin guide was the kiss of death

@ferguszade5594 15 күн бұрын

In the Beethoven Violin Concerto Heifetz and Munch (Boston) soar technically and sonically above the Perlman/Guilini. You seem to conflate popularity with quality.

@GilZilkha 15 күн бұрын

See my video on the Best Recordings of the Beethoven Violin Concerto for my own views on recordings of the work. This is a video about critical consensus. You are right that Heifetz/Munch is highly regarded, but I think the critical consensus has shifted more to the Perlman. And, by the way, technical considerations are not all that count. Certainly not in the public ear.

@ferguszade5594 15 күн бұрын

@@GilZilkha Just shows how much these critics know😀. Enjoyed the rest of your review

@wkasimer 15 күн бұрын

Not to mention Grumiaux and Milstein....

@ferguszade5594 12 күн бұрын

@@wkasimer or indeed the often overlooked Hermann Krebbers whose recording of the work with the Concertgebouw is fabulous.

@wkasimer 11 күн бұрын

@@ferguszade5594 Of course. It's easy, though, to understand why Krebbers wouldn't be a "consensus" pick - he wasn't an international soloist, instead spending most of his career as concertmaster of the Concertgebouw. So I'm guessing that the people developing the "consensus" have never heard of him, much less paid any attention to him. BTW, I'm glad that Decca has recognized him enough to issue a box of his complete recordings.