The Conservatives Lose the Local Elections: Will They Bring Boris Back?

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On Thursday, Brits went to the polls to elect 8058 local councillors in some 230 councils across England. We look at the local election results, what they, and whether they could spell the end for Sunak, as they did for Theresa May in 2019.
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@jackvalior Жыл бұрын

imagine them losing 999 seats and they walk in government confidently saying we did better than expected.

@greglemrow3917 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like the GOP over here trying to claim their 4 seat house majority means there's a great big conservative mandate.

@Grason20 Жыл бұрын

They did better than expected, because of all the drama happened up to this point (especially Liz Truss)

@lordhenrywotton95 Жыл бұрын

It’s an expectation management tactic. If the Tories tell everyone they are going to lose 1000 seats, it means they are actually expecting to lose 700 or 800.

@bauefrenchmen3126 Жыл бұрын

And their crippling loss will somehow be a mandate from the constitutes they don't care about to double down on their bad policies and man child knuckle dragging skulldugery spoiled children are known for.

@mattj5391 Жыл бұрын

This whole channel is just a KZfaq Labour Party propaganda channel. Every single video is just a Tory bash.

@WhichDoctor1 Жыл бұрын

it's so fun seeing all these torys claiming that losing 1000 counsels to left wing and eurocentric parties is clear evidence that the UK population wants sunak to be more right wing and brexiteer

@davidty2006 Жыл бұрын

They ended up loosing atleast 61 more. In reality they were aiming for around 750 and only said 1000 to claim victory with the media.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

The desperation is sweet.

@nickbarton3191 Жыл бұрын

That is bizarre

@santiagoo.8958 Жыл бұрын

That's what happens when your main source of news and information is an echo chamber.

@OckinElf Жыл бұрын

Not really. Conservatism should be about reducing tax, supporting small businesses, small government and so on. That's not what this government is doing and as a result people are voting for basically anyone else in the hopes for change.

@archiemcberry7102 Жыл бұрын

The voters punished the Tories because the Tories refuse to govern. They have the job but are not doing the job. Pretty simple stuff.

@tariq_sharif Жыл бұрын

they actually do govern, but for the privileged classes; it seems beyond their comprehension that being born into a poor/ordinary family should not be an obstruction to have a fair try at success; but the Tories believe if you are poor then you must be morally deficient and not worth for anything. it almost fits perfectly with the caste system in Hinduism (sunak priti suella etc)

$@iffracem$

@iffracem Жыл бұрын

Do not underestimate the inbuilt stupidity of the average human, when acting in a group.

@viper_fan Жыл бұрын

The Tories did not satisfy the fish and the voters. Where is the money the red bus promised?

@jordanjames2956 Жыл бұрын

I think that the vote shows that people really dislike the Conservatives but are only lukewarm on labour. I also think that a lot of former tory voters are dislike labour just as much as the conservatives and thus that is why the lib dems did so well.

@varun2250 Жыл бұрын

@@tariq_sharif An Islamist sukhing the Labour Vote consolidation strategy actively spreads vitriol. The Labour and their Far left fanatics are so going to regret this normalisation of hate towards others like Hindus and Jews.

@sctmcg Жыл бұрын

My actual MP came to my door begging me for a Tory vote.....and still lost.

@kanedNunable Жыл бұрын

did you tell him to piss off? :P

@sctmcg Жыл бұрын

@@kanedNunable I told him I'd definitely be voting Tory after his visit!........I didn't 😂. I enjoyed giving him the false hope......the same false hope his wife had before he left her for his secretary. Great. Guy.

@CERWINVEGAredRING Жыл бұрын

Wow a tory walking round knocking on doors.. now that sounds like a dangerous occupation.

@lemontrack5165 Жыл бұрын

@@sctmcg that is a violation at the end bro but deserved

@alexkelly6648 Жыл бұрын

please say he was crying a bit. just for that beautiful picture

@Andrew_BIake Жыл бұрын

Bringing Boris back would put the Tories’ coffin from 6 feet under to 60 feet under and covering the grave site with cement!

@TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын

Nahh you're wrong. Everyone loves to vote for Boris. It's the reason ITV does so well with its Saturday evening entertainment shows.

@31Blaize Жыл бұрын

We can only hope they're that stupid/desperate.

@normandunford5747 Жыл бұрын

You have summed it up spot on.

@normandunford5747 Жыл бұрын

@@TheWebstaff . Get real , Boris is a past it has been, totally clueless.

@samanthapatrick4345 Жыл бұрын

That would be political suicide bringing back bozo the clown

@markaberer Жыл бұрын

So the goal of conservatives is to conserve their seats? Sounds reasonable..

@chrisamies2141 Жыл бұрын

it's to remain in power rather than do the best for the country, certainly seems that way.

@Lee_303 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisamies2141 yes all they care about is their own greed, the best thing is they have to resort to more desperate measures every time as they've outed themselves as careless thieves.

@faenethlorhalien Жыл бұрын

That's what politics is. Sack the treasury, get sick pension funds, keep your job for life and then your children, rinse and repeat. Technically a democracy, but in name only.

@garymorgan75 Жыл бұрын

The Conservative party I’ve been in power for far too long. This country needs a change of direction.

@Czybmnxn Жыл бұрын

I think we need to go further in the same direction, but we just need a strong leader to do so

@JamesL0717 Жыл бұрын

@@CzybmnxnFor sure, since isolationism by removing themselves from EU wasn’t devastating enough, UK needs even more isolationism. Maybe they stop trading with the US. For sure will make UK great again.

@antonk.2748 Жыл бұрын

@@Czybmnxn Yeah right, because the direction this country chose since 2016 is so future oriented and brought good results. The only thing we need now is a Fuehrer, what a load of bollocks...

@NaSaSh1087 Жыл бұрын

This has nothing to do with Rishi, even if boris was there, the result should have been similar. It's the people's anger against the entire Tory party not just Sunak . In fact, Sunak is better than most tories.

@charlotteinnocent8752 Жыл бұрын

Amen to that! All these "local" areas have hospitals and GP surgeries etc. that people use through the NHS all the time. The NHS has been ripped apart by the TORIES, not necessarily just this leader or that. ALL of them have been trying to kill it and people are furious! And that is just ONE issue.

@user-pn4py6vr4n Жыл бұрын

They may as well elect a small patch of brown liquid as their leader for all the difference it will make. People don't hate the man, they hate the policies of the party.

@JanZamani Жыл бұрын

I really hope the people are waking up to the nature of the tory pary. They don't care about the people, just about lining their own pockets.

@HShango Жыл бұрын

@@JanZamani since when has either labour or Tories cared though (for real)? They all end up in downing Street and just completely make a mess of things

@NaSaSh1087 Жыл бұрын

@@JanZamani so you say even sunak is like the rest of the tories or is unique and trying to improve the economy?

@AmazingDuckmeister Жыл бұрын

Bringing back Boris Johnson would be catastrophic for the Tories. He has lost so much support since he is no longer leader. In fact, Rishi Sunak has made them more popular than without him. The Tories are going to lose with or without Rishi Sunak.

@tyranitararmaldo Жыл бұрын

And it would cause more infighting.

@KernowFishy Жыл бұрын

yup, this is their peak popularity. bringing back the spaff will only make it even worse. they know it.

@tafadzwamanzini5463 Жыл бұрын

In no world is sunak more liked than Boris though

@SlowhandGreg Жыл бұрын

It's the Tory brand that's taken the flack, most people think Sunak isn't incompetent or will crash the economy (low bar) but everyone can see the infighting going on

@KernowFishy Жыл бұрын

@@tafadzwamanzini5463 though in polling Johnson's net rating was much lower than Sunak's, and that is pretty dire itself.

@VARMOT123 Жыл бұрын

Yeah boris would've lost 2000 seats .that is how much boris was hated . He had a negative 53 approval rating at the end

@VARMOT123 Жыл бұрын

Rishi is far more popular than the tory party itself . This result is due to boris lying debacle and truss kamikaze budget .

@parrotly1092 Жыл бұрын

I do think tho that among more traditional Tories Boris is seen as a stronger leader than sunak

@saikrishnak8631 Жыл бұрын

that doesnt mean he will win

@HShango Жыл бұрын

@@parrotly1092 those Tories voters are just absolutely wrong and my goodness they still believe in the bozo Messiah nonsense😂

@raggedcritical Жыл бұрын

@@parrotly1092 True. The question isn't "Would bringing Boris back be a good idea" because it'd obviously be a hideously bad idea - the question is whether enough Tory MPs are blinkered and desperate enough to try it anyway.

@parrotly1092 Жыл бұрын

@@raggedcritical yh I completely agree, Boris Johnson could permanently kill the Tories AGAIN

@Pemmont107 Жыл бұрын

Tories out! One thing you didn't mention is that all the numbers lead to Starmer being the next PM, either in a minority government or in a coalition. A Labour/Lib Dem Coalition is looking more likely? Which I'm more than fine with.

@Pemmont107 Жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD They're definitely not far right and anti-vax in the UK ^^

@Pemmont107 Жыл бұрын

@@Gary-bz1rf I still think the majority people would prefer Labour or Labour/Lib-Dems over Tories. This is why I'm cautiously optimistic.

@cerdic6305 Жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD yep very much centre-left. They formed from a merger of the old Liberal party and the Social Democrats.

@Frserthegreenengine Жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD Liberal Parties in Britain are more left-leaning than they are in Australia and the USA.

@adassyposz3699 Жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD They're basically toned down Labour, and a lot more middle class, although for a while they fashioned themselves as a staunchly remainer party. I imagine they got so many votes because of posh people protesting against the Tories.

@wofi784 Жыл бұрын

A Labour/Lib Dem or Traffic Light coalition after 2024 wouldn't be so bad tbh, also could help push Starmer to adopt proportional representation

@Bubblegum-pk3yn Жыл бұрын

Starmer would lose just as much seats at the Conservative's in proportional representation. It would never happen. Proportional representation will ensure Labour is never elected too. It will always be a Conservative - UKIP coalition quite frankly for some reason no clue why much of the UKIP vote goes left when it's a right wing party? No clue why it works and this is in the current stages, by 2024 say August when it's likely to happen for many reasons, the Conservative's were expected about 80 seats if not less at the end of last year, now it's more than what Labour has now. Labour isn't likely to win quite frankly if Sunak can deliver on his pledges which I personally believe he will. To add on many parties dislike the Conservatives, so a coalition isn't the way to go given current polls they'd need roughly 30 MP's to supplement their minority government in this hypothetical scenario so a supply and confidence agreement could happen with those who hate the Conservatives enough that they'd rather elect Labour than give Conservative's another chance in office before 2029.

@michaelotieno6524 Жыл бұрын

There is still a long way to go but I don't think Rishi is out of the race especially because Starmer has opted to backtrack on all his election pledges.

@rogink Жыл бұрын

@@Bubblegum-pk3yn You can't be sure. Sure neither Labour nor Tories could govern on their own. But PR throws up loads of smaller parties in Europe - from far left to far right and everything in between. By UKIP I assume you mean its successor Reform - well they actually lost a couple of their handful of councillors! I don't expect Starmer to agree to PR even at the price of coalition with LibDems, so it's still a long way off.

@tomhill3205 Жыл бұрын

A hung parliament is the best thing for democracy so no one party can put things through without opinion from other parties. I do believe they should change the FPTP system to a more fair type of system

@void7mapping711 Жыл бұрын

That would be nice, it would actually give smaller parties like the Lib Dems and Greens a chance in elections, since people won't have the belief that their vote is being wasted if they vote for them, and they don't have to get a plurality in a constituency to get the seat.

@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын

I think the over arching conclusion from these elections is that there is a huge majority of people who want the Tories out of office at any cost. People are wising up to tactical voting and will use their vote to the biggest detriment of the Tory Party.

@markwelch3564 Жыл бұрын

It's also a sign that the anti-Tory sentiment can't be assumed to be pro-Labour. A lot of people want a change from both of the big two

@J4sonkempson Жыл бұрын

And not many people voted anyway.

@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын

@Mark Welch I'm not sure you can make that conclusion. I've supported labour for most of my life, though as a kid / teenager, I actually thought the tories were making good points, and I bought the propaganda. In the last 15 or so years, I haven't voted for Labour because I have voted tactically at every election. I'm not stating it shows people are pro Labour either. I'm saying that the only real indication is that people want the tories out and see every party that can beat them as a viable option (apart from the far right racist ones that the Tories ate currently harvesting votes for).

@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын

@Mark Welch I mean, I agree with your statement that one can't assume anti Tory is pro Labour, I just don't think it's a takeaway from these results, more like a basic truth.

@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын

@jason kempson turnout in the UK elections is always shockingly low. I don't know what the figures are here, or how they compare year on year for the last 10 years, but I think voting should be taken more seriously in this country, though I believe civic education in the UK is completely lacking anyway so many people don't know why they are voting for or why...

@DanielleKingdjdinosaur Жыл бұрын

please bring boris back and ensure the tories do not see power for a generation.

@rononel8046 Жыл бұрын

Could you imagine if Rishi is ousted? That would be 4 Prime Ministers in 1 year, 5 in 4 years & 6 in 8 years! There'd HAVE to be General Election this year. The Conservatives couldn't come back from that...

@ianworley8169 Жыл бұрын

You'd imagine so, wouldn't you? But then again, they held out after Truss resigned and Sunak was 'given' the job, without being elected by even his own Party membership. They don't have an ounce of shame. They'll just hold on until the bitter end.

@Bubblegum-pk3yn Жыл бұрын

@@ianworley8169 Many thought we wouldn't come back from Truss we did. Sunak was elected to the job with the support of his MP's and he was uncontested wasting money and time on an uncontested election wouldn't make sense, would it? Johnson and Mordaunt aka two prolific Conservative parliamentary members both dropped out and backed the current leader and many of their supporters would have likely then backed Sunak if Johnson essentially gave the blessing to support Sunak and unite the party as many voted against Sunak during the summer elections because of his involvement in unseating the then Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

@Bubblegum-pk3yn Жыл бұрын

6 in 8 years? Boris Johnson, May, Truss, Sunak, Johnson again, who's the 6th? Cameron resigned in 2016, so that'd be 7 years and that is also misleading if someone resigns and then use it to make it seem more than it is. For example, when Tony Blair resigned and Brown was elected that was 2 PM's in a day! It wasn't though it was 2 PM's in 13 years I don't like them but it'd be misleading to try and misconstrued how many PM's actually served. Many PM's as of now have been voted out due to failing to get BREXIT done, Cameron resigned because he didn't believe in BREXIT, May resigned because she couldn't get a deal done, Johnson resigned due to a fabricated report against him, Truss resigned because she didn't fund her tax cuts as she should have done quite frankly, and Sunak isn't likely to resign when he took over we were expected to lose about 2,500 council seats he halved that and the membership will see it too.

@rononel8046 Жыл бұрын

@@Bubblegum-pk3yn you're right, it would be 6 in 7 years, your maths checks out. Boris didn't resign because of some made up report, he resigned because 50 (a record number) ministers resigned in 24 hours because of his appointment of Chris Pincher & his subsequent lying about knowledge of his transgressions...

@Gonzie6 Жыл бұрын

Exactly why they won’t boot him now. They want more time to try and cling onto power/hoard up more money

@Lando-kx6so Жыл бұрын

If the tories tried to oust Sunak they would for sure be destroyed at the GE. Getting rid of him after that Boris & Liz Truss fiasco would be a horrible idea

@benl9047 Жыл бұрын

People vote differently in local elections. In a general election a lot of those green votes will probably go to Labour - people will just vote tactically for whichever party is most likely to oust the Tories. I'm from the south-west where that means voting Lib Dem but most of the time it means voting Labour, so I think this is indeed great news for them. As for the Tories, they've been in government since 2010 and it's simply time for a change, there's nothing they can really do to stop it now.

@HShango Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true

@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын

Some of the green votes will go to conservatives, some local greens are nimbys. Or maybe they go to lib dems as they seem to enjoy the nimby vote too.

@SlowhandGreg Жыл бұрын

There was a lot of tactical voting

@pinkpincol Жыл бұрын

I typically vote lib Dems in local and labour in general because in my area lib Dems have a higher chance in local and labour have a higher chance in general (would vote green in local but we don't have a candidate)

@andrewwalsh2755 Жыл бұрын

If people went from Labour to Green Party in the council elections, it will most likely be because it is now Zionist Labour... which is the very antithesis of True Labour... and with Starmers proven track record of lies, deceit and dishonesty (Google Starmer +Broken pledges), only a Gullible fool would now believe a word he says! Other than Zionists, and people who would vote for a Mr J. Rees Mogg, if he wore a red rosette (the bewildered ) ... I can't imagine why Anyone with decent values would Vote for a party which supports (or turns blind eye to) apartheid, land theft, human rights violations etc (Israel). Liz Truss might, I suppose... If nobody told her what she was doing wrong...

@kanedNunable Жыл бұрын

i cant believe how many still voted tory.

@ietomos7634 Жыл бұрын

@@sctmcg Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, you say your local tory mp has done 50x more for the area than Labour, but from your other comments you didn't vote Conservative?

@Me-ui1zy Жыл бұрын

@@ietomos7634 Probably talking about his councillor

@HShango Жыл бұрын

@@Me-ui1zy😂😂😂 right....

@ruairievans Жыл бұрын

Here's a tip, use a capital letter when you begin a sentence.

@blazzz13 Жыл бұрын

@@ruairievans The grammar police is out in force I see.

@bok7364 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, bringing back Boris would be catastrophic for the Tories. They’ve already burned through 3 prime ministers in a handful of months and bringing back the most unpopular of those three will only result in electoral evisceration next year!

@alexharrington6459 Жыл бұрын

I'm delighted at the prospect and therefore, their inevitable oblivion in '24.

@bauefrenchmen3126 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but yout thinking like someone who earned their place and position in society.

@ane-louisestampe7939 Жыл бұрын

So, let's hope they do 😉

@thecryingsoul Жыл бұрын

I think you underestimate just how unpopular Liss was lol

@Da1Dez Жыл бұрын

Cool! So let's do it then!

@lukas_gallagher Жыл бұрын

this country is in shambles

@kellypaws Жыл бұрын

If you’re faced with a bucket full of turds, the answer is a different bucket. Not a different turd.

@verystripeyzebra Жыл бұрын

A different bucket isn't on offer.

@ethanol1586 Жыл бұрын

I love hearing good news

@davidmcculloch8490 Жыл бұрын

Hard to see the end of Sunak because the Tories will struggle to find a suitable idiot to replace him.

@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын

Everyone else is just unsuitable as leaders.

@MalkWilliams Жыл бұрын

I think the emphasis on vote share and Labour's ~8pt lead misses a big point. You did allude to the commited anti-Tory vote, but a lot of those voters are much more conscious of tactical voting now. Voting patterns are likely to be different in a general election because of that, and that could mean much worse news for the Tories. Be still my bleeding heart.

@byrnemeister2008 Жыл бұрын

I hope you are right and the anti Tory sentiment holds. I would like to see the tactical voting embraced by the anti Tory parties. I think that would see them out in a lot of unexpected seats.

@AxelQC Жыл бұрын

This week marks the 13th anniversary of Cameron's election as PM. The Tories have held onto power for far too long in Britain, and the results have been devastating. Since then they've had 5 terrible PMs and led the country into the disasterous Brexit.

@Da1Dez Жыл бұрын

Not to mention they've not had any solid wins because of their policies.... 2010: Didn't win, formed a coalition. 2015: Barely won, but only because they said they'd have a European referendum, not because if their policies. 2017: Lost their majority. 2019: Only win to get Brexit done.... What's their next convenient luck I wonder.

@ameliamoseley7698 Жыл бұрын

The greens actually gained overall control over a council, bringing them up to a total of one council

@hardcorelace7565 Жыл бұрын

They by far had the greatest percentage increase in number of councils held! That's a +infinity% increase!

@rieuwerthuisman2702 Жыл бұрын

The Tories are losing the moderate voters as I see it, so going more to the extreme right will probably not solve their problem.

@raggedcritical Жыл бұрын

At this point they don't have anything to offer anyone except bigots, so their strategy of pushing culture wars and otherwise trying to scare people into becoming more bigoted and right-wing makes a certain amount of sense.

@Cunnysmythe Жыл бұрын

I don't think they're do something by being too right wing, they're losing then because they're failing on kitchen table issues that affect everyone

@Eoin-B Жыл бұрын

It's not like hard right voters are voting lib dem in protest. They have nowhere else to vote at the moment.

@catmonarchist8920 Жыл бұрын

It almost worked for Trump in a far worse situation

@chesterdonnelly1212 Жыл бұрын

@@Cunnysmythe right wingers don't like the Tories because they don't achieve anything regarding the small boats. They just talk.

@MichelleBlessing Жыл бұрын

It doesn't affect me here in Italy but I'll be delighted for the British people when they get the Tories out!

@Dbdbe1 Жыл бұрын

Stop saying that Cameron gained a majority in 2010! He didn’t. He was the leader of the largest party in a hung parliament - which is exactly where Starmer’s Labour is currently most likely to be.

@stevedoggart2805 Жыл бұрын

Never underestimate the stupidity of the masses during a General Election

@djoakeydoakey1076 Жыл бұрын

Or at any time. Wasn't it George Carlin who said be careful of a group of stupid people going in the same direction?

@iteor7320 Жыл бұрын

Playing devil's advocate here but Isn't that called democracy?

@TheSuperPsychoKiller Жыл бұрын

@@iteor7320 it’s not democracy if people were lied to

@iteor7320 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperPsychoKiller Wdym the words on the side of that bus were totally true... *cough cough*

@brexiesus8213 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperPsychoKiller you expect honesty in politics?!?!? 😂😂😂

@arlosmith2784 Жыл бұрын

Here is the Tory problem: I don't see a Winston Churchill or Margaret Thatcher waiting in the wings to replace Sunak. Bring back Boris Johnson and the Tories will finish 4th in a General Election 👎

@squashyhex9818 Жыл бұрын

Now that I would pay to see

@moochincrawdad Жыл бұрын

Send in the clown!

@cp1011986 Жыл бұрын

I vote differently for local and national, I don't see how they are related.

@verystripeyzebra Жыл бұрын

Why would a tory vote for a Labour Councillor. Of course voting patterns are different to a general election, but they provide a useful indicator of the general mood.

@Robbins996 Жыл бұрын

Cameron didn’t win a majority in 2010.

@UPYERKILT Жыл бұрын

Amazing how the tories believe in experts all of a sudden

@prometheus7387 Жыл бұрын

Honestly Rishi Sunak is one of the better conservatives out there, but conservatives are just bad in general

@vivahate100 Жыл бұрын

Based on what? What exactly makes him 'better'? He's a Billionnaire who asked a Homeless man if he worked in Finance. My god. He's still trying to push the the destruction of our Nation is down to small boats narrative whilst peddling his '5 fixes' pledge that he doesn't have a mandate for. He's just as bad, he just doesn't say anything deliberatley controversial, largely because he hasn't got any speaking skills.

@bereal6590 Жыл бұрын

No he is not. There is a huge list of his misdemeanours he is as corrupt greedy and a liar like the rest!!

@TheSuperPsychoKiller Жыл бұрын

Just because someone smiles before stabbing you in the stomach doesn’t mean he’s good.

@goinggoinggone535 Жыл бұрын

@@jeremydunn932It's still true about Sunak though. He is the best Tory, but that's like saying one turd smells a lot better than other turds. It still stinks.

@goinggoinggone535 Жыл бұрын

@@jeremydunn932 These are all correct assessments of Sunak. However, despite this Boris, Truss, Give, etc are even worse prospects for PM. Sunak is the worst party leader in Westminster, and he's still better than anyone else in his horrid party. The entire Tory party should be binned.

@johnchessant3012 Жыл бұрын

So far, Sunak has lasted almost 4 Liz Trusses

@CoconutandFamily Жыл бұрын

I have always supported Torries, but I will never forgive them the Brexit, I would rather give my vote to greens or Lib Dem now.

@lucasmartin3995 Жыл бұрын

I’m not even British and enjoy British TLDR! Great channel.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

What is more worrying is that the tories still have seats left... Who in their right mind can give them their vote still. Mindboggling.

@mattevans4377 Жыл бұрын

Can we talk about the low voter turn out? People have given up voting, they know they are doomed whatever happens.

@andrewwalsh2755 Жыл бұрын

Vote Green Party! 🇬🇧... or spoil your vote... at least register your disapproval of the 2 main parties.

@John-boy70138 Жыл бұрын

Don’t be ridiculous… hardly anyone turned out for the local elections… that shows a lack of support to all parties. They all need to up their game.

@vincentmckenna1755 Жыл бұрын

Independents were the winners

@MartinPoulter Жыл бұрын

Love how a video clip of Liz Truss is put in to illustrate the concept of "internal chaos".

@UdoBloss Жыл бұрын

They’ll blame Putin, oh wait he helps fund them - they’ll blame Jeremy Corbyn. 😂

@vincentmckenna1755 Жыл бұрын

Russia helped the country too qe bought masses of hoods of them

@SevenEllen Жыл бұрын

We'd be in a very different country today if Corbyn had been our Prime Miniser. A lot more people would be alive, probably.

@chesterdonnelly1212 Жыл бұрын

I have already heard them blame Putin. I haven't heard them mention Corbyn. He is now irrelevant.

@stephanguitar9778 Жыл бұрын

We punished our local tories because they stopped a wonderful pedestrianisation project on the day it started, closed down and bulldozed the local swimming pool, tried to close down the gym and sports facilities. To do all this they engaged the help of our Tory MP who used their influence and legal resources to get the destruction done.

@BOABModels Жыл бұрын

Big gains for left of centre parties so Tories say they need to be more right wing. What are they on?

@edwinfitchett6033 Жыл бұрын

In some parts of the country many former tory councillors were standing as independents splitting the vote. The low turnout would also have reduced the "traditional" votes

@Steviebond2 Жыл бұрын

Short answer, no. Because they'll start plummeting to Truss levels again, and let's not forget the 13 years of Tory incompetence.

@simonglancy7070 Жыл бұрын

you can basically add all of the greens vote share onto labour at a general election and roughly 40-55% of the lib dem vote as well. When you factor in the 2 party system we have at a general election this is devastating for the Conn.

@karlharvey4806 Жыл бұрын

Consider that conservatives also gained alot of votes from people not having a valid id and still lost loads

@marcelanoryadi9110 Жыл бұрын

Wait. illegals can vote in UK ?

@byrnemeister2008 Жыл бұрын

@@marcelanoryadi9110 No, they no where you live. It’s called the electoral roll. ID is not needed.

@zesky6654 Жыл бұрын

@@marcelanoryadi9110 people who are registered as living in a district can vote in that district. They need to present ids, but the gov tried to change which ids count so that they could discriminate against young voters.

@chesterdonnelly1212 Жыл бұрын

You logic doesn't work. People without valid ID can't vote. They potentially could have lost votes from people without valid ID, same as every other party.

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

@@rogermelly8260I don’t think that is true at least from the measure that were put in place. For example 65+ Oyster cards were allowed but not younger/student cards, many other examples of ID favouring the older like this

@jobrodie7514 Жыл бұрын

Any idea what the turnout was? The BBC seem to be treating it as a secret.

@DavidJamesHenry Жыл бұрын

Why are we still treating the Tories like they are impossible to replace?

@theuglykwan Жыл бұрын

They win by pluralities as the rest of the vote is split between parties and also labour is concentrated less efficiently.

@fudgemonkeyz69 Жыл бұрын

Imagine being a conservative. 🤣💀

@MsJubjubbird Жыл бұрын

political cycles come and go. Five years ago Labour were in dire straits. Right now the government is stale, having been there for over a decade, and people are struggling with money- one of the gold rules of elections is significant economic problems result in a change of government.

@MANUELEYTOR Жыл бұрын

how can a party so unpopular and inefficient hold on to so much power? Their rule has been disastrous and yet they stay firmly ruling over people who don't want them.

@reeling-in Жыл бұрын

Now try and get something out of these locally elected councillors!

@HShango Жыл бұрын

Starmer thought he slammed dunked the tories 😂😂😂 (he's lame), tories though...are even worse.

@allergy5634 Жыл бұрын

Very few voted for starmer. People just voted for which ever part was most likely going to defeat the Tories. He had nothing to do with the number of labour seats gained

@HShango Жыл бұрын

@@allergy5634 Good for me, I don't vote for him.

@Woodzta Жыл бұрын

People are getting ahead of themselves. I know I'm not alone in voting differently for local elections.

@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz Жыл бұрын

How the hell does a Local Council have so many Seats in the first Place ???

@shaunprice3219 Жыл бұрын

Thing is where I live there was only a choice between Tory Green and Reform UK parties. I’m sure the same thing happened elsewhere and so considering I’d never vote for a Conservative Party voted for lesser evil Green…

@jeremymanson1781 Жыл бұрын

Not heard of 'Tory Green'.

@fireironthesecond2909 Жыл бұрын

Same. I don’t like the Tories so I’m going Green

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

How are greens the lesser evil compared to the conservatives (or any party for that matter) at least what is displayed in their manifesto is the foundations of what could be considered even a utopian society

@asahdo Жыл бұрын

Honestly a Labour-green coalition with libdem as the main opposition party (or vice versa) would be my dream. If only we could sort out or tactical voting to get rid of the tories in every constituency

@kayla-Rey22 Жыл бұрын

Not really my dream. I'm a woman - you know one of those strange anomalies who has a cervix, a womb, and I can get pregnant and have babies. Now why would I vote for a party that doesn't even recognise what a woman is?

@fireironthesecond2909 Жыл бұрын

Frankly I’d rather the Lib Dems and Greens form a coalition. That way they can almost match the Tories and Labour and we have a more diverse political system

@asahdo Жыл бұрын

@@kayla-Rey22 i agree with you about women. I do wish the Labour and Greens would see sense on this. I don’t think it’s worth voting the tories in over this issue though as we’d end up with no nhs, no middle class, a worse economy, more pollution, less green space, and greater inequality of wealth. We just need to make sure that our voices are heard on this issue too, refuse to be silenced and make them listen.

@kayla-Rey22 Жыл бұрын

@@asahdo : I agree about the Tories. The NHS is a disaster at the moment. I don't know about other parts of the country but I have friends in Devon and the hospital A&E departments are full of people (up to 8 hours waiting time to be seen) because everyone is going to A&E instead of their local doctor's surgery. And the reason for this? GPs are still refusing to attend the surgery to see patients even though Covid is no longer an issue. People cannot get an appointment to see a doctor anymore. Not only that, the GPs started off having phone appointments and giving diagnosis without even examining their patients (lots of cancer mis-diagnosis, but that's another story) but now they have to book online to get a telephone appointment and then wait 2 weeks for the phone call. I just cannot understand how doctors get away with this. The Tory government are paying them massive salaries to stay at home and not see patients. Why is this not a national scandal? It's an absolute disgrace.

@samgrainger1554 Жыл бұрын

What is wrong with people who are still voting tory

@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn Жыл бұрын

Insanity!

@hosephanerothe1440 Жыл бұрын

Tory MPs did not vote for Truss, they voted for Sunak. A few noisy MPs voted for Truss

@BinaryHedgehog Жыл бұрын

My Tory councillor was delivering leaflets with a baby in a papoose. I thought she must be feeling desperate if she needed to canvas with a human shield!

@lairddougal3833 Жыл бұрын

And that’s despite the voter suppression ploy.

@rebeccamondloch4265 Жыл бұрын

Get rid of all of them

@Infinitystar225 Жыл бұрын

Anarchism is dumb.

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

@@Infinitystar225yor dum

@MatthewJBD Жыл бұрын

The public has fired them.

@tt-ew7rx Жыл бұрын

Medway and Dover results show that the focus on small boats is not working.

@___AD Жыл бұрын

Labours problem is most Labour supporters don't like Starmer either. He is seen a just a Tory with a Red Tie. This is why the votes are so split. The worst thing that could happen in the General Election is the vote being so split Starmer will have to get into bed with the SNP to win the election and it will be on the bases of an Independence Vote which he will agree to just to get into power...

@jonsmith5058 Жыл бұрын

Sounds great to me. I'd love Scotland to leave the UK, perhaps even hope they might rejoin the EU. It would also make things like a vote of PR even more possible which could finally end the reign of the Tories by putting them rightly in the margins and also mean that slimy politicians like Starmer won't get far leading the left wing and we might get more principled people like Corbyn back in leadership positions, its been far too long since we had a Labour leader like that, Clement Atlee was the best Prime Minister we ever had and we need someone like that back to rebuild the UK.

@imkirbo3094 Жыл бұрын

@@jonsmith5058 Scotland are never going to leave the UK for a hundread reasons, don't waste your breath flogging that dead horse.

@jeremymanson1781 Жыл бұрын

I would put money on that not happening. Labour know that would be a vote loser.

@nejdalej Жыл бұрын

They won't get into bed with the SNP. The press have been demonising them for decades and continue to undermine them at every turn. If he's going to bed with anyone it's the Lib Dems or the Greens.

@verystripeyzebra Жыл бұрын

Maybe, better a tory in a red tie than a fascist in a blue one.

@jjtotheb Жыл бұрын

Is sunak even in charge, what's he done apart from make kids to sums

@myg14570 Жыл бұрын

He finished brexit. A task that took four tory pm to do.

@TheGuyWhoAsked69420 Жыл бұрын

@@myg14570yea, and we’re still an economic basket case. Seems like cutting off ties with our largest trading partner was bad idea eh? 45% of imports and exports… SHEEESHH. Europe doesn’t care, since they’re a big trading block, trade with the uk is only 6% of imports and exports. Easily supplemented by increasing production in the EU. The UK is left with no friends after Brexit. The Empire is long dead

@TheAllRounderMemes Жыл бұрын

credit to the lib dems and the greens for soaking up loads of seats too

@LandAnchor Жыл бұрын

I can’t see them dumping Sunak at this late stage. I mean who the hell have they got left at this point?

@romitkumar6272 Жыл бұрын

Can we have a proper liberal party again? One that is for liberal social values and classical liberal (laissez-faire) economic policy

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

That was tories plan, cratered spectacularly.... Won't have that nonsense anymore for aat least a decade hopefully. Give the country a bit of time to recover before getting the axe in again will you.

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

you realise that is why the nation is in such an enfeebled state right?

$@iffracem$

@iffracem Жыл бұрын

Sad thing is, just like here in Australia (where we threw out the conservatives last election) and in the US, in the end you still have to vote for a politician. Politicians are politicians, deep down where it counts they are all the same. Like saying a Dalmantion is a different animal to a Labrador. Sure they're superficially dissimilar, one having spots and one doesn't. But they're both a domestic dog (Canis Familiaris) Left wing or right wing politician.. different spots, same unsavoury animal (unlike dogs).

@HShango Жыл бұрын

Very true, nice analogy

@Impuritex Жыл бұрын

Let's have an AI in place instead. At least it won't constantly lie and ruin the economy.

@di7209 Жыл бұрын

@@ImpuritexThe AI is probably made by a big tech company though so then it’s still rich people in charge

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

Funny that the only people who talk like that are pretty much exclusivly people living under a fptp system with pretty much only 2 parties that matter. Most of them based of off the british system.

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

the further left you go the more genuine they get, see Yanks Varoufskis or Jeremy Corbin, basically anyone a member of Diem25 or democracy now. The issue is an abundance of those seeking conservation of their power and not change hence why conservative parties should never be voted for as they only serve the powerful

@HimitsuHunter Жыл бұрын

Cons: Oh no... its not working!!! We need to do it HARDER!!!!

@lovejetfuel4071 Жыл бұрын

Some news media are saying that Labour would be 28 seats short of getting in. I think Labour would do even better in a GE, this was for counsels that has no impact on who would get into #10. Plus there were many places that didn't vote, such as Wales, Scotland, NI and other counties in England. Including London, that generally vote Labour

@thomash6497 Жыл бұрын

So a few things. First, Cameron didn’t win a majority in 2010, so stop repeating that falsehood. Second, each local election cycle favours different parties. Wales, London and some other areas where Labour are particularly strong didn’t vote yesterday. The extrapolation for the GE will differ for Labour depending which council seats feature in the pre-GE year you look at. That is to say that as the timing of the GE is a political choice, while local elections are in four year cycles, the same set of seats do not feature in the year before every GE. Also, local showing for independants are somewhat atypical in post-Brexit politics and skew the stats. And finally, partisan gerrymandering in boundary changes and voter suppression have never been as cynical, blatant or significant as in 2023. Thus the accuracy of methodology, data sets and the historical precedents/comparisons ought to be considered, with analysis heavily caveated, in this context.

@RicardoD957 Жыл бұрын

No because its councillors, in my area the Tories (in fact most parties apart from Labour) didn't bother putting. If it was MPs then of course its the end. But its not, no one cares about the councillors elections.

@taw510 Жыл бұрын

Worth noting here that despite his large projected lead from the 2009 LE, Cameron was initially only able to form a coalition government in 2010

@SlowhandGreg Жыл бұрын

We have FPTP there appears to be a lot of tactical voting

@nouta6440 Жыл бұрын

Hey, not only Brits went to the polls. You don't need a British citizenship to vote in local elections.

@lemongrass5412 Жыл бұрын

first comment

@lemongrass5412 Жыл бұрын

i think that's twice in a row

@clownofthetimes6727 Жыл бұрын

It was Boris and Truss who lost these seats. Sunak actually looks normal so give him time.

@jimisalt Жыл бұрын

He is not normal he is against the science backed recommendations to address climate change effectually (possibly) killing us all by not acting on what has been recommend.

@sayno2lolzisback Жыл бұрын

"The Tories did vote for Liz Truss." Yes they did indeed. Lest we forget

@reagan8653 Жыл бұрын

Sunak will win 2024, because trust me, people hate Starmer too. Many who switch votes from Tories will vote for Lib Dems instead. And on Sunak, his approvals eventhough low, it’s slowly increasing. A Nov 2024 election for UK will be great for a Tories victory under Sunak

@geminusleonem9365 Жыл бұрын

Ahahahahahahahah! Hilarious!

@reagan8653 Жыл бұрын

@@geminusleonem9365 wait and watch! U guys have waited for 13 years. Will have to wait for 6 or 11 years more atleast 😉

@billysastard8779 Жыл бұрын

@@reagan8653 Did you suffer certain amount of emotional damage yesterday?

@jeremymanson1781 Жыл бұрын

I don't think many people 'hate' Starmer. It seems most people are not really aware of him or have no idea what his vision and ideas are for the country.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

If the tories win again, britain will be the laughing stock of international diplomacy lol. The damage it would do to reputation abroad would be devistating.

@TheDayt306 Жыл бұрын

The fact that the benchmark, the last election, was set before the tenure of two entire Prime Ministers should tell you everything you need to know about post-Brexit politics.

@nickbarton3191 Жыл бұрын

Last GE, Johnson offered "Get Brexit Done". This time they've got nothing but more austerity and crippling taxes. They've shot their bolt.

@robbieblack4153 Жыл бұрын

At a few points in the video, you refer to Cameron "winning a majority in 2010" - the Conservatives were the largest party in 2010 but did not win a majority.

@DeKevers Жыл бұрын

I'm 18 and made sure my vote counted in Plymouth! We are now which is a big change for us.

@hot_ice_e1ite46 Жыл бұрын

over 8'000 seats???? there's not even that many people in Britain why do they need so many

@shadowisgonnakillya3047 Жыл бұрын

If they decide to switch leaders and oust Sunak, for the love of god people, DEMAND A GENERAL ELECTION! PROTEST! DEMAND! Whatever it takes.

@davidringmann3395 Жыл бұрын

The Green Party has won over 200 seats and for the first time has taken over controle of a council previously held by the Tories.

@Lilitha11 Жыл бұрын

It is almost like if you screw around there might be consquences.

@CrazyMama75 Жыл бұрын

Would yous do a video explaining how local elections work on the ground, eg to explain the process of towns switching councillor leader, what that means and what it looks like for people within said town. I'm very confused by what's happening with my towns election, if we've a new councilor or not and if so what happens next. My neighbours don't get it either and the more I Google it the more confused I get lol.

@soniabaker9790 Жыл бұрын

Get em out, 13 yrs of cuts to us, but not to them.

@josephdyson3737 Жыл бұрын

Projected share also historically overestimates the Lib Dem performance, and isn’t a perfect indicator of how they’d perform in a general election where their vote historically is more concentrated. Some analysis suggests LAB would fall short of a majority on the PNS, but that definitely fails to consider tactical voting and the fact the SNP are beginning to falter north of the border, with Yousaf who (early days granted) is struggling to make an impression and hasn’t had a new leader bounce, quite the opposite. All in all, Labour mostly did what they needed to do and achieved some pretty stunning results in council areas where the parliamentary seat would be in the hundreds on their target list.

@AB-qo2xq Жыл бұрын

They should never have got rid of Boris. Ridiculous decision.

@OldManBryan Жыл бұрын

Did you ever get rid of the background music on the Nebula version of your videos? I haven’t subbed for Nebula for a while now and it was defo annoying to hear you talk with it going on.

@napoleonibonaparte7198 Жыл бұрын

New reign, new Labour, new Government.

@gazza8524 Жыл бұрын

I want to fix the first line "Some brits went to the polls." as there were a nice stack of nuclear blast safe seats in local councils that were unopposed and therfore not voted upon.