I do remember you, Philotas, but not as you remember yourself.
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@Gruboria Жыл бұрын
This was a historical love project, you will never get these type of movies anymore. I don't understand the negative reviews, loved it.
@Boxingbear Жыл бұрын
It was more well appreciated in Europe. North American audiences had trouble with the homo eroticism. Alexander Revisited is Stone's true vision, and it is one of my favorite movies.
@gre811 ай бұрын
I don't like this film (pacing mostly), but I'm really glad it was made. We need more historical films that bother themselves with, you know, history...
@pducks360210 ай бұрын
I agree one hundred percent. You can tell this was made by someone who loves Alexander’s story. I’ve always been fascinated by the whole history of Alexander, his father and the wars of the Diadochi. I think this movie is great. It was made for fans of history. Not your average Joe who wants to see the next big blockbuster with lots of cool sword fights.
@azraelknightquest57547 ай бұрын
In short, no actual confirmed reports ever indicated Alexander was gay. In fact, multiple historical records stated that Alexander was very disciplined in sexuality, seeking it only with one of his wives, even scolding leaders for sleeping with others unless they were married too often (even though it was common, especially among soldiers in that era). He cited it as something that could bring ruin to people and unworthy of noble leaders. Also, it has a LOT of inaccuracies concerning the depictions of Persians. In conjunction, it comes off as more a historical documentary style rather than an epic movie, being over narrated. All in all, it was inaccurate, talky, lengthy and didn't seem to portray Alexander as history or scribes that witnessed him described him.
@rubyroux7 ай бұрын
[]@@azraelknightquest5754 cope
@felipebart105 жыл бұрын
Besides heavy criticism I really enjoy this movie. There are some powerful scenes and some battles are very cool. Alexander's speech at the ''edge of the world'' is one of my favorite scenes of all time.
@hitrapperandartistdababy5 жыл бұрын
I just saw it yesterday for the first time and I find this criticism unfair. Its incredibly just how histoircally correct the entirety of the movie is. Especially the battle at gaugamela playing out 99% like the real version
@michaelwong60503 жыл бұрын
I will commend the movie based on historical accuracy towards the Battle of Gaugamela, but the rest of the movie bored me to tears. It's basically 10-15 minutes of battle and over 2 hours of Alexander ranting and crying about everything. What happened to Alexander, the warrior king? What happened to all the epic moments in his life e.g. the burning of Thebes, the slaughter of the Greek mercenaries at Granicus, the siege of Tyre, the Gordian knot etc? Instead the movie tries to show us the most epic moment in Alexander's life was charging a war elephant...on horseback...and throwing his sword at it. Something which never even happened. It's kind of hard to do a biopic about Alexander when there are so many things to include. My hope is that HBO make an Alexander miniseries (about 4 seasons) in the future.
@ElZilchoYo3 жыл бұрын
The movie is a fucking mess in terms of pacing and sequence, but individually the scenes are great, especially if you already know the history. I imagine with little historical knowledge and seeing the movie for the first time as a whole, it would just seem awful, which is the way most critics went into the movie.
@matheuspaes6042 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwong6050 its a long and great life they should make a tv show w 4 or 5 seasons
@inigobantok15792 жыл бұрын
It's historically accurate down to the teeth but it's screenplay pacing and the sequencing of its events are dogcrap and terrible asf not to mention Colin Farrells take at Alexander
@iwanegerstrom45647 ай бұрын
People seem to fail to understand how serious such an act truly is. Almost being assassinated by those you trust and have grown up with. I can tell you that I would have become completely paranoid and mad with rage if I had been in the same position as Alexander
@yani24994 ай бұрын
He was gay.
@harryriley26963 ай бұрын
No you wouldn't, they said they wanted to go home and you would have kept them there, fighting in perpetuity. You would have expected it.
@MessiahComing5 жыл бұрын
2:19 the document just says TAX SYSTEM in a Greek style font. Had a bit of a chuckle.
@landochabod75 жыл бұрын
lol
@Ya_Ruzke3 жыл бұрын
@ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ is МАКЕДОНИЈА hi slav
@NoName-sz7fj3 жыл бұрын
@@Ya_Ruzke hi slave
@-Minuano-3 жыл бұрын
Oh geez lol
@jordand10432 жыл бұрын
Were are the Greeks during this ??? Yes we were not there YET until 1829 A.D.
@viperatech2 жыл бұрын
When this movie was released, audiences weren't ready for it. As time goes on, it gets better.
@crackshack22 жыл бұрын
Ahead of its time it was.
@sparksfly58772 жыл бұрын
Never watched it, or heard of it. Care to explain?
@monk7292 жыл бұрын
The movie sucked then and it still sucks now
@snigie12 жыл бұрын
Being gay wasn't something that got you a ceo position back then
@sparksfly58772 жыл бұрын
@Edwin Sone Yeah, fair enough. Even in the clip I was wondering why everyone was so Irish.
@rustomkanishka3 жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty interesting that Alexander ordered the assassination from Samarkand, Uzbekistan. There's still a hotel there named "Alexander".
@danemon84233 жыл бұрын
how is it important?
@rustomkanishka3 жыл бұрын
@@danemon8423 it's kinda cool to march an army all the way there, and order an assassination from another continent, and keeping it secret all the way. Also to stand in the same place where the camp stood
@Amharizz3 жыл бұрын
@@rustomkanishka *Interesting*
@gordusmaximus49902 жыл бұрын
@@rustomkanishka Not to mention the time he did that and the entire scale of it. Its quite interesting and yes, pretty cool.
@luftim2 жыл бұрын
@Vili Koivula and a nuclear weapon of the time.. The sarisa.
@azazel166 Жыл бұрын
For those who do not know, Hermolaus was a page that had his horse taken and himself scourged because on a hunt, he killed the prey before Alexander could. In his confession, he said he could not live without punishing Alexander for the humiliation he endured.
@ericarona85996 ай бұрын
Himself scourged?
@azazel1666 ай бұрын
@@ericarona8599 He was hit with a whip.
@derekmooney277111 ай бұрын
Farrell quotes this movie as the one that brought his by then enlarged ego crashing back to reality - " we all had our suits ready " , the cast and crew believed they had created something special only to have it crushed by punters and critics alike. Every now and again life gives you a kick to remind you you're not as big as you think, and the process makes us better for it.
@jorawarsingh25959 ай бұрын
well the movie was not great it was no kingdom of heaven or even troy. it was a -B at best.
@arcanewondersfann15676 ай бұрын
This movie was great and they were right about it, reason is back in the days internet was not popular so people couldn't express their opinion, only "critics" could write on newspapers their opinions so 1000 people could've decided movie was bad and that all you would hear because normal people couldn't express their opinion anywhere
@vanyadollyАй бұрын
@@arcanewondersfann1567 Not just critics, but general audiences and even political figures across the world had a gay panic over the movie. It was 2004, and people don't want to admit their heroes might not be straight. There's a reason there aren't a lot of movies about Alexander.
@LandersWorkshop23 күн бұрын
They went too woke on the homosexual-angle, that was the mistake Stone made. Until VERY recently there was nothing in the history books to suggest man-on-man sex aside from having platonic love for Haephastion etc.
@KiuLang3 жыл бұрын
Casander was the one true enemy of Alexander.
@-Minuano-2 жыл бұрын
Yep, he wiped out his entire bloodline.
@memnoch94182 жыл бұрын
Our true enemy has yet to reveal himself.
@TheDrunkHamster2 жыл бұрын
Yea that guy was a prick
@pedrosanchez-br4br2 жыл бұрын
Well i like the portray of his character in this movie, vicious, his omnipresence in decisive moments in the movie, the power in the shadows
@nothingtoospiffy79132 жыл бұрын
@@memnoch9418 just when I thought I was out. Alexander pulls me back in!
@jeremyjohnson74292 жыл бұрын
One of the truly beautiful moments in this movie. Such a shame about Parmenio, Philotas, Cleitus. I have to imagine Alexander hated these decisive moments.
@janapodnecka33462 жыл бұрын
This movie is a piece of a real genius. And I think its full recognition is still yet to come.
@MrBlick762 жыл бұрын
Amen
@tusharprasad27342 жыл бұрын
Except it didn’t highlight how after getting defeated in india and getting a safe passage to flee, still died in the middle of nowhere and couldn’t return to his country 😏
@coltonreeves68932 жыл бұрын
No, it's pretty shit. It has a few cool moments but it had horrible casting, was a production nightmare, was not very historically accurate and somehow managed to piss off not only the Persians that are depicted as barbarians, but Greeks as well.
@jmortiz4772 жыл бұрын
@@coltonreeves6893 wth? It was actually pretty historically accurate and good casting. You just have shit taste in history movies.
@christianvazquez3219 Жыл бұрын
Yea man I don't understand why so many people trashed this movie....I just saw it now for the 2d time and it's amazing.
@Stephen-wb3wf5 жыл бұрын
Check out 1:54 everyone, they're discussing whether or no to kill Parmenion and Cassander is just standing in the background all shady. As the conversation develops Alexander turns back to look at him and he does a Stannis nod to influnece him toward assassination. It's how he solves problems. He eventually kills off the rest of Alexanders family.
@lpedr0l5 жыл бұрын
Stannis?
@Rokiriko3 жыл бұрын
Only problem with that being that Cass was not there.
@Stephen-wb3wf3 жыл бұрын
@@Rokiriko do you mean like in the real life discussion I don't get what you mean because he is there at the time stamp? Sry it's late nd im tired might be misunderstanding...
@imme2463 жыл бұрын
@@Stephen-wb3wf In real history he didn't join Alexander and the others for years. There is still dispute over whether or not, and to what extent, Philotas and Parmenion were guilty. Their execution was urged by Hephaistion, out of fear for Alexander's power and safety, and Krateros (among others), who stood to gain power as a result of the removal of Parmenion and the liquidation of his faction and supporters. Ultimately, Hephaistion and Kleitos took over Philotas' old command.
@Stephen-wb3wf3 жыл бұрын
@@imme246Great story bro what does that have to do with my comment about the movie scene here.
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad they put in this movie this part from history. It truly was a open question as to whether Parmenion had anything to do with the assassination attempt and whether he could be trusted to protect the supply lines and the return of the army after hearing of the death of his son. A hard choice, perhaps even in an unnecessary one, but one that Alexander was willing to make.
@azazel166 Жыл бұрын
Greek here, he had nothing to do with the assassination attempt. Alexander had him killed to prevent the consequences of killing his son. Also, at that time period, the head of the family was automatically considered responsible for the actions of their children, even if he himself wasn't involved.
@theoutlook55 Жыл бұрын
@@azazel166 thanks for the reply. As to your last paragraph, yes, I have heard of that same law but I've never been completely convinced that in the uncertainties of a military campaign it would have been actually enforced. Besides, the law, I don't think, gave authorization for a sudden homicide without (what back then passed for limited) due process of law.
@warrenhammer7262 Жыл бұрын
He could have kept the boy alive and used him as a hostage, requesting Parmenion to come to Alexander. They should have both been given fair trials. If the son is guilty, his father will probably plead for his death sentence be commutated on account of his service. Or maybe he would have accepted a death sentence if he was proven to be guilty. Given Parmenion's importance, the cold blooded murder of of an old general that served his father is a great way to alienate your people. His son as well.
@lrl2394 Жыл бұрын
@@warrenhammer7262e issue is you run the risk of the father instead raising up in revolt. Remember he has 20k men under his command that guard Alexander’s supply lines meaning he has an army and can cut Alexander from supply at any time so by the time Alexander’s forces double back to quash the revolt he would have a weaker force due to supply shortages and his enemy would most likely have spent that time gaining allies and as such bolstering his forces putting Alexander up against equal or greater odds. It may be 3 days hard riding for a small force of men to reach him but that could take a whole army weeks to get there not to mention the enemy won’t stay still as they will want to choose the battlefield and take the time to let allies bolster their force. You may think having a son taken hostage is enough to make most men lay down their arms and submit but history has shown that some men driven by ambition and power are willing to sacrifice those closest to the to achieve their goals
11 ай бұрын
@@warrenhammer7262 Not when time is critical and news of a rebelion would have spreaded furthermore and lead to unseen challenges. In my oppinion Alexander did the right thing, a sad thing yes, but necesary. As I like to say it: whenever in doubt of Alexander's decisions, ask yourself what would Philip have done?? :D
@JoshCaiLovzu Жыл бұрын
This movie ages so well
@LIMLIMLIM1113 жыл бұрын
2:48 Finally opening the text book night before an exam
@jxiro13 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO
@idonotexist65032 жыл бұрын
😂
@lv-gamer25685 жыл бұрын
Cassander just watching and waiting...
@lauraemanuele77263 жыл бұрын
@NoGood007 in the film It portrays him; and Roxana a little closer in certain parts
@imme2463 жыл бұрын
@JustDeplorable In all likelihood, Roxanne and the other wives wouldn't have cheated, as it would have essentially been suicide. Barsine was a mistress in the same position, and Bagoas had little choice as to who he slept with. Hephaistion was married (albeit political), and probably had sexual relationships outside of Alexander, given the time period, which I suppose constitutes cheating; although at the time, monogamy wasn't a very solid concept. That being said, Hephaistion did put off marrying for a long while, and was undying loyal to Alexander, so it's possible he was monogamous (although Alexander wasn't), and wouldn't have 'cheated' on him. Sorry for the rant, lol.
@Constantine_IA2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Rhys Meyers was great as Cassander
@vasilistsif32324 жыл бұрын
2:18 ΤΑΧ ΣΥΣΤΕΜ
@anniegutierrez874 жыл бұрын
hahah I saw that. Wish they would have used Greek words
@vasilistsif32324 жыл бұрын
@@anniegutierrez87 That would be ΦΟΡΟΛΟΓΙΚΟ ΣΥΣΤΗΜΑ in Greek, but it's funnier this way
@steliosdilias75884 жыл бұрын
Απο τότε το ελληνικό κράτος είχε φορολογία 😂
@vasilistsif32323 жыл бұрын
@Republic Of Macedonia Well that came out of nowhere.. are you feeling well mate?
@eh16003 жыл бұрын
@@vasilistsif3232 Seen him on multiple videos about Alexander, lots of FYROM wackos in the comments. Didn't know a naming dispute could make people so mad. Good that it's settled to North Macedonia now...
@marceljep349211 ай бұрын
Joker, Lt. Tom „Iceman“ Kazanski, Hannibal Lecter, Ser Meryn Trant, The Hound and Lara Croft wow.. Colin Farrell had some great characters by his side in this film!
@siegejay495 Жыл бұрын
I liked this movie from the start. It was ahead of it's times and if you studied this period everything was fairly accurate and expected. A great period film.
@nerthus46854 жыл бұрын
Injustice by our standards. This was how Macedonians handled these things. Assassinations and plots were a daily occurrence and expected. If you failed, you could expect your entire family to be wiped out. Not only because they were likely conspirators, but because they would seek vengeance for the killing of their kin, just or not. If Philotus had to be killed, Parmenion had to be killed. After Alexander died, the Macedonians started massacring each other left and right. That was just how it was.
@defaultuser94234 жыл бұрын
This is how things are still handled at the higher echelons of power. It's just become a lot more underhanded and hidden in our time.
@marbet23954 жыл бұрын
Was it different between Persians or Romans or in every cultures for centuries?
@nerthus46854 жыл бұрын
@@marbet2395 To my understanding, Macedonians were unique for their culture of treachery and family fighting. Royal Persians and Aristocratic Romans did it too at times, but not at the level of the Macedonians.
@marbet23954 жыл бұрын
@@nerthus4685 yes they are all different and in various cultures things changed by time. But remember just how Darius arrived to have and maintain his title
@Not-Ap3 жыл бұрын
@@defaultuser9423 Cloak and Dagger. Smoke and Mirrors. The long arm of justice can only punish what can be seen and proven. Even ordinary powerless people live by this rule. Thus the onld saying "it's only cheating if you get caught". People are inherently evil. The quicker you accept this happier you'll be.
@charlespayne17073 жыл бұрын
In Plutarch's biography of Alexander he says Philotas was never informed of any conspiracy but had simply put off 2 Macedonian brothers who asked him to arrange a private audience with Alexander. If Philotas had wanted the conspiracy to succeed ( as other historians believe) wouldn't Philotas have tried to silence the 2 brothers either by ruse or violence?
@thehistoryguy4277 Жыл бұрын
In this movie, they are combining the conspiracy of the pages with the philotas affair and the killing of parmenion
@vmro9446 Жыл бұрын
@@thehistoryguy4277 great movie !
@Boxingbear Жыл бұрын
I read that Philotas knew about the conspiracy but didn't inform Alexander or his bodyguards because he didn't take it seriously. Additionally, Philotas's mistress testified that he was bad mouthing Alexander during their 'pillow talk ' sessions. Which probably didnt help his case.
@tyriq732811 ай бұрын
@@vmro9446 what's the movie called
11 ай бұрын
As a lover and former student of history with obsession for facts I never thought I will ever say this but, in an age where historical movies and people like Alexander the Great are slowly forgotten as our values are changing, this movie, whether is good or bad we should all be happy it exists.
@TheMrcassina10 ай бұрын
slowly forgotten by whom, not by me for sure...
@rinabrown9869 ай бұрын
The world is yet to forget Alexander!
@vanyadollyАй бұрын
Unfortunately the world wants to remember Alexander the icon, but nothing about who he was as a person because his sexuality is such a sore topic. It's like the Alamo. Remember, but forget everything it was about.
@CesarGarcia-nd5xz11 ай бұрын
That actor asked the director to throw to him a real spear for the realism of the shot..... what a F*cking legend.
@Lycurgus1982 Жыл бұрын
To be a Macedonian monarch was an unbelievable challenge.
@Emy-fv5ny11 ай бұрын
Awful
@Lycurgus198211 ай бұрын
@@Emy-fv5ny yes, but if you could meet them you would stand not only as king, but first amongst equals. Modern man cannot even begin to know how brutal life was back then.
@Dandusky Жыл бұрын
Hold on, can we talk about how COOL his teacup is?
@mauricio4605 жыл бұрын
The killing of Parmenion was a huge act of injustice. Yes, I know he was powerful enough to pose a danger to Alexander's projects, but it would be better if they just exiled or imprisoned Philotas.
@tobiaskotoff57765 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what i thought. Parmenion and his son Philotus had done way too much good for Alexander's cause.
@tobiaskotoff57764 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Moye Absolutely. They upheld that flank for hours longer than they should have been able to. At least I think they did
@nerthus46854 жыл бұрын
Injustice by our standards. This was how Macedonians handled these things. Assassinations and plots were a daily occurrence and expected. If you failed, you could expect your entire family to be wiped out. Not only because they were likely conspirators, but because they would seek vengeance for the killing of their kin, just or not. If Philotus had to be killed, Parmenion had to be killed. After Alexander died, the Macedonians started massacring each other left and right. That was just how it was.
@inquisitorkrieger81713 жыл бұрын
"As long as they are lost they can be believed in". Sometimes the only way to stop the venom is to kill the snake.
@omarkamel87373 жыл бұрын
In my opinion that philatos was guilty as he didn’t inform Alexander of the conspiracy
@phew94185 жыл бұрын
1:33 Eye see Sir Meryn Trant managed to get one of his eye balls back and survived Arya Stark.
@cs3473 Жыл бұрын
Well I hope that you also noted that The Hound had some serious plastic surgery done and went on to be one of Alexander's field commanders, too. (1:45 - standing next to Ptolemy, who by the way changed his name to Lorenzo Medici and became the ruler of Florence, per DaVinci's Demons...)
@charlespayne17074 жыл бұрын
In Plutarch's Life of Alexander Philotas is portrayed as innocent. All he does is put off Cebalinus who asked for an audience with Alexander. He's never told in concerns an assassination plot. Cebalinus later meets with Alexander and he tells him of the plot. When Alexander finds out Cebalinus has known of the plot for days Alexander is suspicious. Cebalinus and his brother then say they'd told Philotas of the plot when they asked him to arrange an audience. If Philotas wanted the plot to succeed he'd realize Cebalinus and his brother would need to be kept quiet one way or another. Plutarch portrays Alexander as influenced by Hephaistion and others to torture and execute Philotas. This seems much more realistic than Philotas knowing of the plot, doing nothing and then admitting he'd been told of it.
@comteroi92193 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Plutarch isn't exactly the best source for this, or any period.
@charlespayne17073 жыл бұрын
@@comteroi9219 Plutarch admits himself to writing biography rather than history. However he also list 14 writers whose histories or treatises of Alexander he was familiar with and most of these works are lost. Plutarch was hardly biased against Alexander as you can see in his overly charitable description of Alexander's heavy drinking. In one of these lost works he must have found a different version of the Philotas affair and thought it more likely to be true.
@jordand10432 жыл бұрын
The Latin historian QUNTUS CURTIUS RUFUS (1 A.D.) Also testified that the ancient Macedonians spoke a separate language. He describes the trial of the Macedonian Philotas for contriving a plot to murder Alexander Macedonian. The plot was discovered and Philotas was publicity interrogated by Alexander . Describing this event, Quntus Curtius Rufus clearly stated that the Macedonians spoke separate Macedonia language 13). Not Greek sorry 😞
@charlespayne17072 жыл бұрын
@@jordand1043 Is that a reply to my comment about Philotas? I don't think I mentioned language at all. However the names of the Macedonian months and gods, most names of geographic features, all personal names that I'm aware of and all surviving inscriptions and writings from Macedonia are in Greek. The Macedonians may have spoken a distinctive dialect but there's not a shred of evidence that they spoke another language.
@emilianozapatasalazar71022 жыл бұрын
@@jordand1043 i've read rufus's book several times. Maybe you mean that alexander the 3 was a slav,an albanian,a skopjan?? If so, how come he and his hetairoi all had greek names?? Was aristotle also not greek?? And did aristotle need google translate when he taught alexander and his hetairoi in mieza??
@alexandercrush5 жыл бұрын
1:02 Sometimes it's good to have a few friends
@jamesbecker73027 жыл бұрын
in reality philotas was innocent.. he was favored by Philip an snitched on alexander to him when they were young. alexander never forgot this. also he was tortured an burned for hours then likely stoned to death
@Rickigi7 жыл бұрын
James Becker snitches get stitches!
@ladydruyear6 жыл бұрын
Philotas got more than just stitches;)
@Braila20006 жыл бұрын
It may be that Alexander quite despised the old guard, and fabricating the ''conspiracy'' against him, by accusing Philotas, knowing that by killing him would have been necessary to kill Parmenion, he would have getting more power because even if he was king, Parmenion was still a hero among the soldiers and a political rival at the same time. The last one was Antipater and if Alexander would have not died, i am sure that he would have find a way to remove him from power
@samueljones6216 жыл бұрын
Yep - remember this well gay bois All Gangs - Nazis or commies - think of power aka God like Regulatory powers over every one's as so that the Gang can Rape, kill & consume as they please - Any Man who does not bow to the gang leader gets cut & his woman "regulated"
@pepinozinanasshole6 жыл бұрын
+Samuel Jones Sure Alexander could be very rude and horrible but he was also a youing warrior not backing down from the fight unless it was pure stupidity to participate in the fight such as the siege of the Sogdian rock. He boosted moral into his men by riding headfirst into battle, he was kind to Darius IIII's family, he punished Darius III's murderer. He dismissed eunuchs given to him by spoils of war, Except for Bagoas of course, he did as his heart desired and by the gods his heart was noble and like a lions heart. Fortune favors the bold! unlike some opersian kings who ordered castration of children. I mean look at Churchill. He ordered mass bombings of Dresden, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent women children and men, some that burned alive or heck many... boiled alive while seeking shelter in the water fountains and whatnot still hes venerated as a hero in west with statues and everything. Im gonna have to say Hitler was horrible but there is not quite anythiing like alexander have enever been probably will never be. It's just the nature of things a military general and commander have to be cruel sometimes.
@crazyscreamfan25 жыл бұрын
Crazy how people still love this young king thousands of years later no one from the past has had this honour but no one is as deserving of such reverence as he, no man will be remembered like alexander ever again
@royalhero46084 жыл бұрын
Alexander is the greatest man who ever lived, none have ever and none ever will match his achievements
@ohioagainsttheworld6763 жыл бұрын
maybe Julius Caesar, but really Hannibal kind of deserves a good bit of credit for his knowledge of war too. he was pretty brilliant for a so-called Barbarian
@NoName-sz7fj3 жыл бұрын
what about Caesar or Napoleon
@eddiesid11492 жыл бұрын
@@ohioagainsttheworld676 nope
@ohioagainsttheworld6762 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesid1149 how odd, several learned ppl say Hannibal was one of the sharpest military minds that ever existed.......................
@JoeDirte157 Жыл бұрын
I’ve found that some of the Ridley Scott epics like Kingdom of heaven, and Alexander - have aged very well.
@SuperClypeus11 ай бұрын
Alexander is from Oliver Stone, not Ridley Scott.
@Crafty_Spirit3 жыл бұрын
I think this movie greatly depicts the fucked up aspects of policies that reigned for most of human history
@janapodnecka33462 жыл бұрын
you are speaking as though the current would be workable and less fucked up. hardly it is.
@goldtimer1770 Жыл бұрын
0:15 This scene onwards alexander wasn't the same anymore. Only later while his best friend Hephaestion near death, he pretended being his former glorious self for the last time. His friend died knowing alexander only doing it out of love for him.
@michaeldodd35633 жыл бұрын
That’s what you get for betraying William Wallace!
@markdubois36143 жыл бұрын
It does seem that Alexander favored the guys he grew up with not the old guard of his father at times! the soldiers during phillip time were tierd of war and by this time very rich men.
@dudutsulugulugan2911 Жыл бұрын
The veterans of Philip by this time were indeed very rich men. With estates in Greece and Macedonia, especially the mid ranking officers and above. No wonder its these same officers who wanted to go home and enjoy retirement.
@wolfganghendery82984 жыл бұрын
I prefer the version of the story where the pages were waiting to murder the king when he came to bed but he ended up getting lashed with the boys all night and never went to sleep and so the pages were eventually discovered in their plot.
@beornoakenshield15392 жыл бұрын
Those we hold closely sometimes are the real true enemies
@Emy-fv5ny29 күн бұрын
0:25 this guy is gorgeous, he looks like he came out of an old painting 😍
@yeshutapia81474 жыл бұрын
I think it was Cassander not Philotas
@goodsolonius7305 Жыл бұрын
Thats the most badass firing squad I've ever seen
@malbecks316 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Alexander, I just don't want to be friends anymore. - Philotus
@barbarablue25713 жыл бұрын
Roxanne was involved in the main of Alexander´s poisoning attempts, says Oliver Stone in the DVD´s comments. But Alexander always forgave her, because he wanted to have a child with her in any way possible, he was obsessed with this idea.
@imme2463 жыл бұрын
Funny, since Roxana hadn't even met Alexander by the time of The Philotas Affair, and was in no way involved with any further conspiracy. There's no evidence she bore any ill will towards him; their marriage was a political affair to secure Alexander's position in Bactria, not a matter of love (Plutarch is generally to be moralising when he claims that it is). Any involvement in a conspiracy against him would have meant her life, and she would have known that. Alexander could easily have married another woman. It just sounds like Stone's typical mishandling of history, which also tries to pit Hephaistion and Roxana against one another, an entirely absurd notion.
@barbarablue25713 жыл бұрын
@@imme246 Stone was obsessed with the character of Roxanne...he´s always linking every Alexander´s romantic feeling towards her. I missed to see the real love between Alexander & Hephaestion anyway.
@slimebeingslimey8266 Жыл бұрын
@@barbarablue2571lmao
@boushido12 жыл бұрын
1:15 Executioner: "Oké, try not to move..."
@HaNsWiDjAjA Жыл бұрын
Antigonus recommended to Alexander the absolute necessity of killing Parmenion. And yet later he cradled his dying old friend in his arms as well....
@Roadtoinferno2 ай бұрын
It was a bit weird as previously he was very close to Parmenion and opposing every decision Alexander made (during the council of war & after the wedding scene)
@HaNsWiDjAjA2 ай бұрын
@@Roadtoinferno Indeed. He was one of the old guards, and his views should match that of Parmenion rather than Alexander. However like any old coot he was loyal to his victorious king, and a stone cold realist when it comes to the game of thrones.
@yosef8060 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was realizing Joseph Morgan had acted as Philotas
@waldo34482 жыл бұрын
Claus lives through ages !
@alexandragavrila32012 жыл бұрын
Loved the movie!! Love Colin😍
@user-ov4wd8qz6l6 ай бұрын
Tactic and thank God for the confusion and yes I need to communicate with.....😮
@user-mo3dn1re4g2 жыл бұрын
أضخم انتاج عالمي في تاريخ السينما العالمية ،جرى تمثيله في نواحي مراكش بمنطقة امزميز تبعد عن مراكش بحولي55 كلم.
@hariharasubramanianp14264 жыл бұрын
For those who came here for Joseph Morgan (a.k.a) Klaus 0:43
@tatleman53145 жыл бұрын
My man Klaus got pierced
@stellasarsoni4 жыл бұрын
i came here for Klaus and yours is the only comment i found about him
@devan984 жыл бұрын
Stella Sarsoni same
@mohamedhommos77482 жыл бұрын
Truly heavy seen criticism I really like to sure enjoy this film movie. These are some powerful scenes and some Empire Army to the battles are very cool. Alexander is a speech at the ''at the edge of world'' is one of my favorite scenes of all time , I Love My Hero Alexander The Great from Egypt.
@sidi8101 Жыл бұрын
It is false that it is not historically accurate, you just have to understand that it is impossible to compact such a story in such a short space, and in this case the director did it brilliantly, with good actors and brilliant performances, remembering the Gaugamela scene which is considered one of the most successful military scenes in cinema. And about the Persians, in the eyes of the Greeks all those peoples who lived outside the Greek ecumene were considered barbarians (even the Macedonians themselves were once considered barbarians), and in this case it would be necessary to give considerable depth to the argument to see if, taking into account the negative connotations that the term "barbarian" has today, the Persians would adjust or not to that term. I consider this film to be a masterpiece, which allows us, with a great setting and an excellent soundtrack, to transport us to the Hellenistic world, to put ourselves in the shoes of those adventurous soldiers who did something extraordinary and explored the confines of their world. He even makes you understand and live his feelings in scenes like Clito's death or the scene in this video in question.
@georgebozinovski94019 ай бұрын
Macedonian you fool
@lamario2952 жыл бұрын
Another chapter in Klaus' life
@julioacceus2533 жыл бұрын
its weird; out of all the characters, Cassander'a scenes mostly show him being alone. Aside from him standing next to Roxanna here.
@smol_miko3 жыл бұрын
And its curious because casander never goes with alexander, he stay in macedon. It's say that he despise him
@shiz7772 жыл бұрын
That's Bagoas lol
@pedrosanchez-br4br2 жыл бұрын
The power in the shadows.
@DeidreL9 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Morgan is an amazing actor!
@johngallagher91513 жыл бұрын
The soundtracks and just this movie in general should be put on a thick titanium disk to weather the time and catastrophes to come so that our survivors know at least a piece of their history. We dont want another nearly complete wipe of memory like the Younger Dryas comet impacts and the Great Flood caused by them. Because as you can see today, very few people believe stories, which are the only thing that survived the Great Flood/comet impacts. Stories no one wants to believe even though their foundations have recently been proven to be founded in reality.
@LandersWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Wisdom words.
@justintimbersaw39343 жыл бұрын
3:26 to 3:27 is that Alexandong the Great between his legs?
@z1stelios2533 жыл бұрын
Yes
@cautarepvp20793 жыл бұрын
yep
@Amharizz3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@bennybeltran9913 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@roshanjay73 жыл бұрын
Although more common in ancient times, torture is a difficult subject even today. On the one hand it's obviously atrocious and unspiritual, *the only thing worse is assassination.* On the other hand, by finding out what is going to happen, as well as when and where, it can save lives, both military and civilian. However, this goes back to how closely a society wishes to remain converged with their Spiritual Principles. Because righteous individuals within a righteous society at large *would* be willing to suffer any pain to remain so converged, *knowing* that anyone who dies in the defence of remaining so converged *will* be reborn into a heavenly society. Individually there are serious issues also, because it is impossible to implement torture with a pure state of mind due to the *lack of an immediate* threat. Which means those involved with torture *at any level* will *believe* they can get away with anything without repercussion, to almost comical levels. This corruption reduces their ability to have virtuous interactions with *everyone,* effectively pointing them towards the hell planets. Unlike a righteous warrior converged in the Principles of Warrior Nobility roaming an open battlefield engaged in virtuous temporal/spiritual combat against an opposing force that is always looking to *immediately* destroy him. There are other issues too from a purely military standpoint because an Army that is *known* to not torture is more likely to be surrendered to, and surrender is the quickest method of victory. Especially when that Army is also *known* for using minimum force, rejoicing taking prisoners, and generally showing the utmost respect, even for their opponent's corpses. Because an Army *becomes honorable* by extending this utmost *Love & Compassion* as a matter of principle throughout all its warfaring. And by doing so it actually does *all that can be done* to ensure anyone captured will divulge *accurate* information voluntarily. Ultimately, the goal of a supremely noble society at large should be never *requiring* torture ever again by *any* means. And each individual must *believe* the path to achieving that *begins* with not *causing or even consenting* to torture *anywhere.* And each individual and society at large must have the Spiritual Strength to *continue* not torturing ever again under any circumstances despite whatever painful consequences may result. Because they will *know* there are both *temporal & spiritual benefits* to be gained from not torturing ever again that are superior to the lesser temporal benefits gained from torturing.
@Crafty_Spirit3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'd like to add that torture is also often impractical from a viewpoint not considering virtue at all: as you don't know how much the tortured person knows, the information revealed is not reliable - e.g. they would tell you names and plots they made up just so that the torture may stop. For example, the Bush administration received enough intelligence from their secret services to deduce that Bin Laden would attack the U.S. on homeground (they basically failed to connect the dots). The subsequent torture programme did not help to chase Bin Laden down, but it forever stained the U.S.' reputation as an honourable power. Really what you should do is to keep dangerous foes imprisoned in a respectful way and release less dangerous ones, then spy on them and learn about their contacts. Who speaks to whom is often more critical to know then what they are talking about.
@markdubois36142 жыл бұрын
Torturing is problematic in my opion if time is on your side you could gain Intel but enemies will tell you anything to stop it! and it does Not work on all men I know onething I would refuse to torture any person because its wrong but that's me.
@petrospetromixos69622 жыл бұрын
@@Crafty_SpiritBin Landen was trained by CIA, Bush knew the attack would happen it was controlled demolition, just search operation black forest they wanted to do the same few years back to start a war with Castro was stopped by Kennedy
@petrospetromixos69622 жыл бұрын
problem with torture is that its very effective in taking fake confessions but power just wants some guilty to blame and hang for the flock to applaud
@eresmathias8058 Жыл бұрын
You bring up good points. Depends if enemys is evil or not, its complex. Is it self defense, ideological or greed based war, resources pillaging land,homes. If you push any human far enough survival instinct surfaces. Modern times we have truth serums which null need for torture. Violence is last resort more for self defense 4 self and family.
@Zaltan-sb4lm5 жыл бұрын
at 2min50, is this in english?? "however", " the vanity of life" , " to have been", "the god of wealth" etc...
@Soggersnuggets5 жыл бұрын
It would be dumb if the text was in Greek while the actors are speaking English
@mitchell474510 ай бұрын
I hope the new napoleon film goes in September like this movie.
@jmvm31 Жыл бұрын
Colin farrel is not convincing as Alexander..that pretty much spoils the movie
@muhammadalfatih47332 жыл бұрын
This is serial part of "this land is mine"
@mrscanlan.501611 ай бұрын
watched a good documentary on how Alexander may have been poised , by Cassander and his dad, Antipater , who Alexander mother was on bad terms with Antipater at the time
@chanang45310 ай бұрын
Ive read that also....Alexander sent Craterus home with 10,000 veterans to replace Antipater and for Antipater to come to Bablyon but he was an old man and sent his son Cassander to plead with Alexander to leave his father at home but to no avail and then maybe Cassander poisoned Alexander. Cassander later also had killed Roxane and her son Alexander the IV and Olmpias ,Alexanders mother.....
@ritashaarora32692 жыл бұрын
If he would have not faced bangers in Punjab, it would be hard for anyone to conspire against him
@carolpulma27342 жыл бұрын
Alexander: dammit Klaus ...
@Pannkakaize5 жыл бұрын
I would never be able to betray such a great king, anyway I'm to loyal for my own good anyway
@mrman57844 жыл бұрын
He wasnt grateful for anything he killed the one general he had with good judgement and who won all his battles. He also personally killed his friend who earlier on saved his life. He deserved an early death perhaps if he stopped while he was ahead he could have enjoyed life. Though Darius might have lost on the superficial basis in the cosmic sense even he outlived Alexander by 20 years or so... It is beffiting that this pompus back stabbing prick alexander who gloried over others achievements his whole life would be buried alive deep in a coma within a golden coffin. The gilded cage and hell he made for himself, I hope his last moments were spent screaming for help as his idiot companions didn’t know the difference between death and coma XD. They said “his divine body wouldnt decompose” of course they gave some ass kissing explanation for what was clearly signs of a catatonic state.
@michaelwong60503 жыл бұрын
Alexander was not a great king. He was a bloodthirsty, megalomaniacal tyrant who killed many people. It amazes me how he is not mentioned and compared alongside the likes of Napoleon, Stalin, Mao and Hitler.
@Pannkakaize3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwong6050 What do you mean? thats how it worked back then
@someguy23933 жыл бұрын
Eh, when you kept driving farther and farther from your home for one man's glory, you may change your tunem
@calmeast76582 жыл бұрын
@@mrman5784 You seem to have such hatred for a long dead man. 'I hope his last moments were spend screaming for help...' Christ almighty mate, I think you are the one screaming for help. 🤣
@GrizzlyGrippz2 жыл бұрын
Alexander bout to get some bussy
@mr.juicethebeetle3373 Жыл бұрын
Kinda
@RubenBeus3 жыл бұрын
what movie is this?
@masfar25 жыл бұрын
The wolves kill each others
@m.c.b.43232 жыл бұрын
MEN kill each other, not Wolves. You're an absolute IGNORANT about Wolves.
@disenchantedwanderer90332 жыл бұрын
Was this part in the theatrical release?
@joserequenatrancastucumana6376 Жыл бұрын
Hay criticas y tendria que averlas, ya que la pelicula de alejandro magno revela su pasión y vida al pie de la letra, que el mundo conozca su historia y comprenda que siempre habra amigos e enemigos y conspiraciones.
@edaxsachorwzky88984 жыл бұрын
Down with the traitors!!!
@grahamr-oj3wf11 ай бұрын
I think it is a great movie Colin is brilliant 🇮🇪💯
@spikeep61414 ай бұрын
“None of Us *defended* Philotus; but, then again, None of Us ever *Liked* him…. …..and of course, His *Power* was carved-up by *The Rest of Us* -
@Mike.Hunt.11 ай бұрын
I’ve heard Alexander liked to give as much as receive
@muazbaharom88682 жыл бұрын
nice alexander made his enemies feel he was empty handed
@slowhand35522 жыл бұрын
Who knows if Philotas and Parmenio it looks like Parmenio not was implicated maybe was all Cassander and his father Antipater...
@sbakernyc57612 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see the director cut
@westyraviz2 жыл бұрын
Very unconvincing Alexander.
@Yawar19862 жыл бұрын
Ahh so many incredible historical events that happened in Alexander's life, like the fist battle he fought at the side of his father, by crushing the Greek League, Siege to Tyre, the cut of the giordan knot, when be became Egypt Pharaoh, the burnt of Persepolis, etc...and they skipped them or just "talk" about them but instead they showed Alexander's bisexuality as the highlight of his life, I mean we already know he was man of his time, but he was not the legendary Alexander the Great because he was a gay King, but a conqueror, leader and military genius.
@dalefuentes28532 жыл бұрын
yea what was all that stuff at the end
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
I think they should learn about him as a leader, conquer, and genius. They added some personal aspects to it, but having seen this movie years after it came out and years after I heard about the day controversy, I actually nowadays feel that the sexuality component of the B was very down played. It may have touched people's sensibilities more than it actually mattered to the plot of the film.
@dalefuentes28532 жыл бұрын
@@theoutlook55 lets not say it wasn't a good film and what it took to make i more appealing to me
@slimebeingslimey8266 Жыл бұрын
True
@j.6378 Жыл бұрын
there is literally zero evidence he was even gay at all. but they made this movie half way to a gay porno.
@adumbass87593 жыл бұрын
Sad this is not the version where shows Hermolaus killing himself...
@thomasn38822 жыл бұрын
Exactly how many miles can be covered by "three days hard riding?"
@darekbaird Жыл бұрын
Well a roman legion was expected to cover 20 miles in 5 hours. That's on foot with supplies. I'd assume it would be double for a small group pressing themselves and their horses to cover the distance. Now I'm outta shape but can manage a mile in eleven to fourteen minutes. A well fed and maintained horse could nail it in 6 to 10 minutes. I'm saying this off the cuff so take all this with a grain if salt.
@1p41421365 жыл бұрын
It’s documented that Alexander began to exhibit signs of megalomania and paranoia.
@marbet23954 жыл бұрын
Documented?!
@1p41421364 жыл бұрын
It’s inferred from his actions such as demanding his subjects to kneel before him when addressing him.
@marbet23954 жыл бұрын
@@1p4142136 we cannot say anything about psychological aspects of ancient people, but we can understand political issues. This way of doing is the typical use of the Persian curt. Alexander was going to rule the Persian empire, so he adopted the Persian ceremonial
@Gutvald2 ай бұрын
After reading the Lion of Macedon from Gemmel, it's sad to see Parmenion death.
@Emy-fv5nyАй бұрын
Why?
@dylanfry79782 жыл бұрын
So what did philotas and his father do ? For this to happen to them.? Were they really guilty ?
@cgavin12 жыл бұрын
If they had been guilty would Parmenion have left his only remaining son with Alexander and himself welcomed Cleitus and Antigonus so openly?
@user-gz3kg9mh8m6 ай бұрын
The Aesthetics Candy Cookie Gameplays Food Poisoning Gameplays also have been cancelled ended.
@eddiemoran80447 ай бұрын
Poison often smells of Cinnamon. This may have been what threw Alexander off to the poison.
@comradebarry5 жыл бұрын
If parmerion and philotus been spared they would ve easily usurperd that huge kingdom killing all the diodochi with him thats y he wanted 2 kill them he just needed the excuse. in the end ptolmey, selecius and casander reeped alexander hard work
@shinzouwosasageyo278511 ай бұрын
Niklaus Mikaelson what are you doing here😭
@jeremyakan75592 жыл бұрын
Epic planning
@willybrisbois59262 жыл бұрын
B4 facui gos we must find out what he knows in the same manner.
@skas99635 жыл бұрын
I think matthew mcconaughey would be a good actor to be cast as alexander. Not only does he have the looks but also is a better actor. His hair is rather like that of alexander. Even his face is similiar.
@alexman3784 жыл бұрын
Always thought the same. He’s a little too old now, but it would have worked in his 20s and 30s.
@alexman3784 жыл бұрын
Anglo Commando And Farrell is 5’10”. So? Was any of us there to confirm? Would that really be what takes us out?
@wojtekgall47662 жыл бұрын
....umiał prowadzać wojsko...😊👍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@Tuathadana3 жыл бұрын
It was Greek social law that the fault of the son lies on the father as well and both are punished as a result.
@zombieguyproducion3 жыл бұрын
Also, Parmenion was too dangerous at that point to keep alive. He could have shut off the train of supplies and reinforcements from the West to Alexander.
@NoName-sz7fj3 жыл бұрын
byt Philotas was not guily either.
@jordand10432 жыл бұрын
Were are the Greeks during this ??????? Not yet
@alexanderthegreat32 жыл бұрын
@@jordand1043 heard of the Hellenistic period
@joek6002 жыл бұрын
@@jordand1043 whats the etymology of the name Alexandros in bulgarian?
@arcadealchemist2 жыл бұрын
the first lady betrayed ehh FLotus
@dreglasgow39606 ай бұрын
Didnt know Macedonians spoke with irish accents back then.. new bit of history for us 👍