Nice video. Could be interesting to have a ''returning players" video for the people who completed the game in first month or 2 and are checking back in now that all 4 dlc are here. I am personally looking into coming back, but most videos seem to cover specific patches or are outdated. I finished the main storyline in mayhem 3, got pretty much all good loot there was to get from farming Graveward and the loot tinkers (sue me :)). What do I do when I come back? start from 0 on a new class and play through the awful story again before jumping in the dlc? Do I slowly ramp up the mayhem modes 'till 10? Are there heroes/skill lines that are significantly different? (Last I remember the only real 'viable' classes were ricochet Amara, crit-1shot everything Flak, unlimited grenade spam Moze and weak ass Zane)

Not know, this is an amazing series, maybe after some more dlc you could do a dlc recap or as suggested some guides for returning players. Keep up the good work regardless 😉

I feel that the plan you outlined at the end of the video sounds correct. Combine this with theory crafting, and continue with that. Then you can have a final look at Bl3, either after 1 year or all major content has dropped.

Maybe plan where you would want Borderlands to go with like DLC and changes

Could we get some love for Tales from The Borderlands? That would be good.

The casino was totally Gearbox attempt to give the game some more positivity. Not to jab at fans, but so many ppl jerk off everytime Jack is on the screen. It was so easy to make that DLC any decent, just add something Jack related, easy scores. The casino was a way for Gearbox to bring Jack back, without doing a flashback of something Jack did in the past. I seriously hope we never see anything Jack related, ever again. So Gearbox can stop relying on him to save their butts and actually do something new.

Wowwww like how did you phase lock the entire moooooooooon

I literally ended up skipping every single cutscene in the game. Couldn’t be arsed to waste the time that I could be shooting

This whole series has been filled with garbage writing

agreed about the calypso twins. if you ask me they should've made them opposing characters, like perhaps troy would be the more calm collected one who's only going along with tyreen cause he needs her to live, and tyreen could've been the way she is. but they were just the same characters just with different model

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Oppressor is my actual profession!

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Ah yes the BL3 idea of let's yell everything because that's funny. BLOOOOOD FEUD!!

@@kaliss7192 id prefer that to the actual main baddies

Aye

The Maliwan-Atlas war was the best part of the game, story-wise, IMO.

@@Username_834 It was a good idea for the main story and in itself, a missed opportunity

Yes. Katagawa and Aurelia were amazing

People might have criticized it for being too similar to the plots of BL1 and 2. However, it also would fit the running theme of the franchise of large corporations not seeming to let up on Pandora until they suck it completely dry of both resources and its inhabitants

I don't remember which video the comment was from, but someone pitched the idea of BL3's story having been made up by the children that Marcus usually tells the stories because he'd gotten drunk and passed out.

@@GreenDinoRanger That would be awesome.

GreenDinoRanger omg yes, and then have them actually go on with the war that they foreshadowed pretty heavily on pre-sequel and tales from the borderlands

It would also explain why Ava was so Ava and made a leader

Don't do that... Don't give me hope.

Favk21 also the b team

It needs a complete rewrite or retcon at this point. I had an idea of how to get Maya back and include everyone that was neglected but... there's SO much that needs to be addressed and/or corrected that it's nigh-on impossible to not fuck anything else up. Especially with what they did with Siren lore

They need 4 more dlcs to make up for how short the existing 4 are and what a rip off it is given that they charged us for it.

..am i the only one who didn't think the story is as insanely bad as everyone thinks it is? I played through the story mode start to finish and I really don't know what's making everyone shit their pants over it

@@HolyPetRel My opinion: mediocre drawn out story, ruined by bland/irritating chracters. -Most of the old vault hunters and B-team (=pretty much all of the interesting chracters, the main strength of the series) were swept under a rug and replaced by inferior unfunny chracters. -The utilized old vault hunters were given Disney Star Wars-ish treatment. -The main villains were unfunny, uncharismatic, irritating and not menacing at all. They also lacked any kind of attitude change like Jack after Where angels fear the tread-mission in BL2. -The story pretty much disregarded the stuff teased in previous BL games: "war is coming" and origin of the sirens.

Look at me Maya, I'M PICKLE AVA!

yeah she is annoying but i think people "overhate" her. Gearbox is probably not going to kill a child in one of their games, but at least she didnt made an appearance in any of the DLC, so, thanks.

@BlastinNick people take the whole Maya thing a little too seriously. I personally don't understand the argument, i think Maya would've died there with or without Ava. But i agree with you.

@BlastinNick Problem is that she is enabled by everyone else (Lilith). Her character would be forgivable if she learned humility by the end of the story, but that wasn't the case. That and the mistreatment of former vault hunters (Sal and Axton are completely absent)

Ava wouldn't been bad if she wasn't forced into a bigger role right away. I mean, had her built up and put her into the bigger roles in future projects. I just hate Ava because of the way they killed Maya just to force Ava onto the fans instead of just allowing Maya stay alive and Ava remain the sidekick to build up character.

Great voice actor but the dlc was over before it even started, I wish we could've gotten more from him, he had good motives, his story was great and he wasn't a cringe inducing streaming

I'm not sure but I heard that they had planned to make jack come back in bl3 but when they heard that the fans didn't wan't jack to come back, they scrapped up everything.

They should make dlc that has multiple storylines effected by our choices

@@Kantech_exe I would be fine with Jack returning but add some kind of twist to his return like he foreseen his own death in pre sequels And started hiding out and went completely insane being afraid the vault hunters are gonna kill him and instead of killing him just re descover him and take him prisoner and make a plot so he would have a triall on sanctuary after his capture

Could be a future dlc I would like it

ً jack needs to stay dead and gearbox needs to understand how to move on from dragging him through the mud

@Mick Salo yup. even playing bl2 over and over again it was still a good time, as much as I hate going to the dust over and over again it still isn't so much of a chore

Thing is that after I played bl3 I couldn't go back to bl2 cause the gameplay is so much more better like the guns feel way better the movement is way better and personally I have 1k hours on bl2 and i love the game its just I actually like bl3 a lot more than bl2 (my opinion, yours can be different :)

@@taintedascetic while i agree on the gameplay, for me it just made me uninstall all versions borderlands, and i have not touched it since the story was so shit to trudge throu, that i could not even get motivated to play, but i wanted the gameplay of 3, so if i tried 2, the gameplay was less, and i just uninstalled bouth.

@@gampie13 that’s honestly just stupid lol, I fully agree that the gameplay is amazing but man that doesn’t make any sense bl2 is still incredible and has amazing gameplay

@@jimhalpert3409 not realy, the gameplay of 3 (thank god slag is finaly gonne), is so smooth compared to 2, it is a big improvement, but the story and characters are utter trash, so when you have felt the gameplay of 3, going back to 2 feels like a slog, but the story and characters of 2 is good, but due to the imbalance, and that I notice it, i rather just not play any of them

Maya: dies All the vault hunters after getting loot: 0_0

this comment captures 89% of all of BL3's jokes a 10% of it is screaming stuff the remaining 1% is tina

Dayum, i feel ya

I am still playing bl3

Felt that

Opposite for me, I was burned out after previous titles and wasn't sure that I would have much fun w BL3. Damn was I wrong. BL3 is the title i have enjoyed and played the most. Still having fun with it.

Yeh not quite borderlands 2

That was a nice touch.

Yeah, in BL 3 you are either "Vault Hunter, Killer or Sup", actually the Vault Hunters themselves are the only ones who use thier names sometimes lol.

I had much more fun with The Pre-Sequel than with 3.

I loved the pre sequel hunters cause of that. So much personality. Its a shame they did Aurelia dirty considering her character arc in that game

I haven't played Bl3. Do they not acknowledge Amara as a siren? Do they just call her "Vault-Hunter"? This is a genuine question, it would be stupid if they didn't, since the entire story revolves around sirens

I'd rather not have to speak with her, just skip this objective and progress the way it should be.

@@gustavonomegrande we all do, but we know that is not going to happen, sadly

@@gustavonomegrande I'm just glad she's dead

They already took away picking up ammo, if u don’t wanna do anything in the game don’t play

⭕️ Talk to Lillith

Exactly man and the characters and locations were j not as memorable

TRUE! borderland 3 feels artificial

I don't know if they tried to recreate jack-shit from BL2 or 1 At the 1 hour mark when I was doing a sidequest about "HAHAHHA XD SUCCC SUCCC SUCCC XD HAHHA SHIT EATING SKAG SUCC SUCC" I had lost my hope on the game. Even worse the whole main story was just the same recurgitated year old memes.

@the super bros gameplay wise, 3 is the best, but it falls flat on its face with every other aspect, mainly the writing

Classic attempt to recreate lightning in a bottle without understanding what made it so great in the first place.

At some points fl4ks are pretty funny, but zane definetly has the best voice lines.

They have a sep video reserved for this boyo

TRUEEEE

"Side objectives" you mean the thing that existed in bl1. Also weapon gimmicks were in bl2. You dont praise something that was universally regarded as good for leaving it in.

@@enjoshi-godrez8775 No, the Notorious Monster hunts, Part hunting for Clap Trap and Ellie. Propaganda Towers, and the others in the DLC.

@@enjoshi-godrez8775 There's more side objectives with better rewards in Bl3 though. The weapons gimmicks in Bl3 are little more pronounced and impact the entire gun for almost every manufacturer. They took the systems they had already and improved them. They did that for almost every aspect of Bl3 all the core mechanics of the game are the same and improved slightly. They just really mis-stepped with how their loot pools and balancing worked. Even now It's sort of rough but fuck BL3 is my favorite borderlands game now. Especially because of the level syncing I can play with my friends of any level and not just stomp everything as long as I'm not using some ridiculous OP gun. At first Bl3 was sort of a dissapointment but picking it back up again recently it is really more enjoyable. I felt the same way about bl2 actually. I thought they made the game way worse when bl2 released I bought it the day it came out and I didn't play it again for a few months then tried it again and loved it.

this here, replaying bl2 after bl3 is just a chore

Yeah there should be a separate volume slider for Player Dialogue

Their dialogue is honestly top notch. They have some of the best lines in the entire game. Been playing through the dlc’s and Zane and Fl4k have been making me and my friend bust out laughing.

brev pad Zane really nails the fusion of professionalism and insanity Fl4k is funny because he tries and fails to fit in with people which makes his constant belittlement of people even better

Best boys right there

@@mumblerogre2455 Exactly! They are written and performed so well by their voice actors and fit perfectly in the universe. In a game where everyone feels like a over the top or watered down versions of themselves, Zane and Fl4k are standouts for having consistency to their characters dialogue and performance. Both characters would fit seemlessly in Borderlands 2, Pre-Sequel, or Tales From The Borderlands in my personal opinion.

The simple answer is that they took a big swing and missed. I doubt anointments are going anywhere. Perhaps change is coming when it comes to mayhem modifiers, but man they are taking their time with it. That being said, I personally respect that they wanted to do something new. They just need refinement.

I wouldn't say making changes is unnecessary, that's the whole point of game development; to test systems and push boundaries. If they remade Borderlands 2 with B3 gunplay then you'll get idiots that will still complain saying the game is still the same. The mechanics in b3 are hit and miss but for the most part the game stands on its own and is a respectable entry. We're only a year in into the game, just wait and see Gearbox refine the mechanics a bit more, they're fully aware.

@@aimannorzahariwod I'm developing games myself and theres a huge difference between having a cool sounding idea and trying something new and actually seeing the idea through by crafting a sound game design around it. They didn't think things through or settled on a compromise when seemingly opposite ideas clashed with each other. The question if mayhem modifiers are supposed to be random or player controlled is just one example. Is it an action-driven or a story-driven game? The skeleton and focus on gunplay come from the action-driven approach, the frequent interruptions and long winded dialogues and before-patch unskippable cutscenes from the story-driven one. They clash, causing the story-heavy parts to grind the flow to a halt way too frequently. Is it loot or character progression based? Obviously loot-based, but the interface doesn't follow that. No loadouts, no filters, harshly limited bagspace. The game has two currencies that are ultimately worthless in the endgame - that's an entire resource system dangling there, ready to be picked up by a new endgame-system but ultimately just left ignored. The damage formula is all screwed up with non-uniformly declared names for things (gun/weapon damage, splash/aoe damage, etc) and double dippings everywhere. This caused scaling to go so out of hand that the only form of difficulty they can provide are enemies healthgating you immediately, rendering most if not all defensive options except crowd control and life steal pointless - or by creating bullet sponges aka Guardian Takedown. I love this game, don't get me wrong, but the mistakes in system design and to some extent fundamental game design are just student level.

Annoitments are the biggest problem with this game.

@@aimannorzahariwod only out for one year??? Really lol

I'm thinking the same thing here, I'm hoping by the end of year 2/3 for BL3 a Pre-Sequel type needs to be released.

Borderlands: The Pre-Threequel

Fuck yes, I replayed borderlands 2 an unhealthy amount of times because the game was fun and the story was amazing. I couldn’t even max out every character for 3, not because the gameplay was bad, but because the story was so shitty and cringey that playing through it felt more like a chore than a pleasure.

As much as i loved Pre Sequel i doubt people would like another Pre Sequel (i mean they already hated the first one). Especially because the Calypsos are just horrible even with more backstory.

Loot system is optimal for the marketing theyre going for. Guys its 2020 a bnk3r situation does not cut for the genre What you personally want may not be ideal for them or for us

At least now the gun gun can shoot legendaries with eridium, so there's a use for it besides slots, and being 250 eridium per shot means it's not necessarily going to shower you with OP gear or be game-breaking.

Borderlands 1 had meh story and writing Borderlands 2 had good story and writing Borderlands 3 actively ruined characters from previous games and had very bad story and writing

Thanks a ton!

But that’s in bl2 also. Sure almost all legendaries will do work in nvhm maybe even tvhm. But by the time you got to uvhm the amount of weapons that work get cut down extremely quickly. Sure you’re not farming for annointments but by the time you’re at level 80 there’s only a handful of farm locations that are actually worth and even THAT handful gets leasened extremely the further you get in op levels. Once you’re in op 10 there’s like 7 guns legendary or above that arent either bad by endgame, outclassed by the sandhawk or even a blue quad, or just a joke gearbox made for laughs. Like what’s the point in farming for a Dpuh when I can do just fine with a sandhawk? Why would I farm for a chain lightning or magic missile when the lightning bolt or slag transfusion can work fine? What the hell is the rocket pistol you get from wilhelm good for by endgame besides free rocket ammo? Yes annointments and farming for them is pretty tedious but let’s not pretend bl2s loot system doesn’t have any flaws at all

@@nathanhendrickson790 the flaws are in the balancing of the game in op levels, has nothing to do with the loot system. Bl2 has by far the best loot system in any of the games and there is no argument to the contrary

@@slimmortal213 if legendaries drop a lot more in 3 gearbox obviously saw that something was wrong in previous games and I wonder what the source of the problem is? Not bl2 it couldn’t possibly be. I mean legendaries are so rare and a lot of them get useless pretty quickly it’s the most rewarding loot system in history even though it takes 20 runs or more to get anything legendary above in the game. Every improvement is meant to fix a problem and if gearbox saw more loot at better rates as a solution to said problem then that problem had to come from somewhere. I’m sorry I know you love bl2 but it’s loot system had problems no matter how much you dick ride that game

Idk tvhm and uvhm was the reason why i enjoyed the game. It made sense and acted like a new game plus to continue your character plus on borderlands 2 specifically you ended up learning a lot by being forced into going through multiple playthroughs. Op levels you had to run something 8 times and was fair challenge whereas mayhem you instantly got bored of because you could just go turn it on/off, that killed mayhem for me because the op levels was the grind back in da day.

Legendaries don’t even feel hard to get no point to farm. I get them all the time

Once I got my first legendary at level 3, I literally never used a gun lower than orange for the rest of the playthrough. There was no reason to. I was getting more legendary's than I could feasibly use. I was getting two legendary's on average from every named enemy I killed. My level 60 character has over 200 orange weapons stored in the bank. What part of that is "legendary?"

Just bin the base game legendaries it's all about paid dlc guns no wonder

They're too common.... Common Legendaries. Something doesn't stick with that.

@@geert574 the monarch, backburner, plaguebearer, hellwalker, and hellshock are some of the best weapons in the game. Obviously the flipper and lightshow are hilariously overpowered in most builds, but aren't necessary. The only 'necessary' dlc i feel is the handsome jack casino one, just so zane players can get a functional class mod. Seeing dead is/was their only viable class mod, but with the recent buffs to others recently there might be some that come close.

they're saying the whole way through that she's going to be a siren and she just gets siren powers at the and having undergone absolutley no character development. And what even is her back story? Is she an orphan? who were her perants? where did she meet maya? WHEN did she meet maya? why is she going to be a siren? you know nothing about her.

you can just reroll annoints.

to me it was strange to only have axton and salvador return through some dlc boss raid, since both zer0 and maya (gaige later and with krieg getting his own dlc) was allowed to make a proper apperance. hammerlock is such a staple to the borderlands game and for people not to show up to the most important day of his life? dang.

Least memorable DLC for me was hammerlocks, I did not give a fuck about him getting married or tentacle shit. The locations were cool and gaige coming back was amazing but fuck that boring ass story. Should’ve brought scarlet back.

People found out there's some sort of arena in there, and in the launch trailer you could see the Vault Hunters fighting a giant Varkid in that same arena, perhaps a Raid Boss, but it was scraped from the game before launch. Fast forward a few months, they announced a new paid DLC is coming in october, with the new skills trees and a new game mode, and surprise, they teased that Raid Boss again, meaning they are either finally putting it in the game for free when the new DLC arrives (kinda like the Takedowns and Events), or he will be locked behind said paid DLC, witch is kinda bullshit in my opinion.

1: it opened with the current dlc. 2: how did you know that phyco krieg was the last dlc? Because it isnt

When he said that I was mad because it wasn’t just the borderlands in danger it was their rep and if they abandoned it the company would have essentially committed suicide

@@kijjin9893 exactly, 100% agree.

@@TannerLindberg what u said about the worst reviewed games being the highest sellers is so true. It brings to mind the debacle of madden 21 that just released a few wks ago.

Tanner Fox God that grammar and “entitled”?

@@TannerLindberg Use punctuation. Become smarter. "Gameing" addiction isn't real, because that isn't a word. And here's an idea... Allow people to be excited about whatever they want. The world is messed up - let people find happiness.

I know what you’re describing is typically a good thing but in my personal experience I would’ve preferred if they just admitted they weren’t ready at release, took 6 months to fix the game, did it in a big patch or dlc that has actually been playtested and expertly balanced by the developers to be a good change to the game. The trial and error live service model can definitely be useful for quality of life issues and constantly updating the game does show the developers care and stuff. (Also probably financial lunacy to put your game on redevelopment hiatus for 6 months) Just for me personally it left me feeling like I was playing the beta for borderlands 3 and the “real” game AKA the finished version would just be released on next gen with all of the kinks sorted out. I really hope that I’m just speaking from a place of ignorance though as I’m definitely part of the fan base that has left the game. So it makes me really happy to hear that for those who have stuck with it it seems like the changes have been positive and worth it and you’re looking forward to the future of the game! Any tips on if it’s worth jumping back on now after DLC 4? Are things relatively stable? Should I wait for the “handsome collection” of BL3 on next gen?

@@jacklucas2123 about that "beta testing for the game", i understand completely. I have been playing since day 1 and i can safely say that this game was DEFINETIVELY NOT READY at launch. The first 9 or so months really felt like i paid full price for a beta, which is more insulting the more i think about it. To your question: it depends. I'll list both the positives and the negatives about the current state of the game. The bad stuff: the endgame is still kind of boring, and mayhem levels are kind of weird. By weird i mean that you can just skip all the way to Mayhem 10 as soon as you unlock Mayhem Mode, which is a weird design choice in opinion, because what is the incentive in doing endgame farming? Also mayhem modifiers can get very annoying at times. The game also doesn't run very well, specially on consoles. It has improved since lauch though. Now, the good things about the game: the farming had improved MASSIVELY. Pretty much every single unique enemy in the game has a dedicated drop, so you don't have to farm Graveward for every single drop you want anymore. No more rare spawns bullshit, they are all garanteed now. A lot of weapons have been massively buffed, which adds to the weapon and build diversity a lot. We finally have endgame content, being in the form of Maliwan/Guardian Takedowns, both giving the player new and interesting loot. Characters have been improved, specially their action skills, which now deal a lot more damage (specially Iron Bear, that thing is a beast) and action skills are no longer just used to proc annoints, they actually have an impact in the endgame. Speaking about them, we got new annoints to fit more builds, and a lot of useless annoints were removed. All the DLCs are really good too, all of them have a much better story compared to the base game, and all of them have extremely strong pieces of gear that are very useful and very fun at the endgame. Mayhem got revamped, no longer you have to deal with stupid modifiers that reduce your damage (for the most part). Also, Gearbox haven't nerfed a single weapon for like 8 months with the exception of 1 weapon that was bugged and was doing insane damage. Overall, the game is in a much better spot. Oh, and yesterday they announced new skill trees for EVERY SINGLE VAULT HUNTER, crossplay between all platforms, and everyone that owns BL3 for the current gen will get a free upgrade for the next gen, maintaining all their saves.

Red M&M thanks so much for taking the time to reply so in depth. I’m gonna give it a shot! I had pre ordered the game so have all the dlc, and I’m keen to see what they’ve added and changed. Seems like they really have been listening to players like you who have kept going so credit to you guys as the community for making our thoughts heard. At the end of the day from what you’ve described things are looking up, and im super happy to hear that as a fan of the series. Cheers :)

@@jacklucas2123 cheers indeed my friend. Borderlands 3 is only going to get better from here, i believe. I'm happy to see you returning to the game!

And they said gearbox didn't care...

That's a good idea. I was thinking before i finished reading your comment, make it cost a huuuge amount of eridium or something. And/or having to dismantle similar weapons.

Take the power out of annoitments and put them back into the vaulthunters skill tree.

Eridium would have been good here more of a reason to farm it, no new items have been added to the Eridium store since launch you just use it for gun gun or vending machine.

I hate anointments so much, note I played during old Mayhem. In a game all about guns and loot the biggest power factor is some bullshit space magic giving unbalanced boosts to different classes.

Like King said here, annointments are waaaay to powerfull, they should have been more like Gemstone/Moonstone effects from BL2/TPS. But them being an attachment would be cool, kinda like components in Grim Dawn.

First person I've seen say that dlc 3 wasn't the best.

You enjoyed the first dlc because it had traces of handsome jack in it and guns love and tentacles was good and the the 4th dlc was great but you payed too much attention to the hype and jumped on board with it and if my memory serves me right every time I’ve jumped on board the hype in different games I was disappointed

@@kijjin9893 I liked DLC1 for the connection between Timothy and Presequel, that and it made sense because of Jack's death. I liked the characters we got and I was sad to have to kill Fanny pack mullet man and the final boss was awesome. DLC4 had such lackluster and rushed sidemissions and no new characters to absorb besides Krieg's sane self. While it did connect to BL2 and Krieg, it feels like it's still missing something. The Final boss is cool, just so annoyingly healthy is all. Even then, Krieg was the first character I played in BL2 and fell in love with the character, if i hear he's getting his own DLC I'm gonna get hyped up, no questions. For a last main DLC, its lackluster.

@@kijjin9893 to be honest, the dlc 1, 2 and 3 had each new atmospheres, new ennemies and they also had other good crew challenges and actual side missions and they had a good story. Dlc 4 had absolutely no new ennemies, the atmosphere of the dlc 4 felt more like recycled areas, for example, the last area of the dlc felt like a kind of skywell 7, the side missions are basically just listening krieg saying non sense and the crew challenges were HORRIBLY annoying and the story... it didn't have much. The dlc was mainly killing shit for hours while listening the non sense that krieg shout. So, compared to every other dlc's, the dlc 4 is a big disappointment

@@Kantech_exe couldn't agree more, besides the thing with new areas, I felt there were cool new areas but man it was disappointing overall

@@DeathRabbit don't get me wrong, I found the areas cool but there just wasn't any area that felt like ''new'' and ''fresh'' like the other dlc's did.

I wish BL3 was just BL2 with BL3's gameplay

Then Wonderland did exactly that and flopped even worse, gearbox has been in some drugs lately

I noticed that too

@@J90I Maybe not completely because my laptop would literally not be able to run BL2 if it was BL3's stuff. Also, _BL:TPS_ deserves so much more love than what it has now. It's an underrated entry in the series.

imagine if the bl1 and bl3 stories swapped. bl1 would be considered a decent game and bl3 would be a mail in storywise.

It's a fun game as long as you ignore story (thank God for the addition to skip cutscenes). Has the funniest gameplay loot of any game still (new games need to get on the looter shooter gameplay loop) and has AMAZING gunplay, but man is the endgame grind boring and the balance was God awful.

It is a fun game, but the story is an insult to borderlands fans, and even as a casual borderlands fan who isn't too invested, the dialogue and writing is complete cringe.

Omg, i literally laughed so hard...thank u...i needed that 😂

Basically a test server?

At least it has an endgame. I love all the games too, but bl3 right now is my least favorite. Bl2s story wasn’t great, but the characters were. That’s what made it good. Bl3 has failed to introduce any new interesting characters besides maybe Maurice and wainwright. It has loads of potential but i just don’t think it will ever become as iconic as bl1 and 2. They weren’t just games, they were culture. Bl3 just doesn’t seem to have the same thing the first two games had. This game also doesn’t have much endgame content at all rn. Hopefully that changes but once addons and updates stop happening lots of people may lose interest. It needs a lot of work and even then the gameplay might be fun but it still won’t be the icon that bl2 was.

@@dawsonmuth they r adding 4th skill trees instead of new characters

@je rules i realy agree with u bl2 is my first favorite then bl3 I just love bl3 bc idk where they are going next so I just wait

Actually, BL2 story was incredibly simple. It was the characters that made the game as enjoyable. It was a linear story that had interesting developments. BL3’s problem is that it takes itself too seriously and tried to make some deep and complicated story as well as forgetting about characters and character development.

@@LittleMsJester01 I agree completely. The characters were what made the story in Bl2. Bl3 was too serious and fell flat in that regard. But I really enjoy the gameplay. It needs more takedowns though. But takedowns are some of imo the best content in the entire series

Nah, I think a lot more of us are hyped for Year 2 than how it looks. The main thing is just the disappointment & peeves that ppl have with the main story, which they cant easily fix with DLC. Imo, it just gets so exhausting if you try to play through the story with each character, twice (cuz of TVHM). And, I guess, some people might be think the DlC are too expensive for how short they are. (Though I love all the DLC so far)

@@cymonin5549 yeah that's true, but i mean personnally i like going through the story, idk i just have fun doing it. But i can see why people have more fun in the endgame content and would wanna skip over the story straight to farming and build making. But im still really hyped for year two ! New skill tree, characters we haven't seen before more lore etc

They killed my hype for season 2 when they announced that the 4th skill trees that they've been holding up as something to be excited about since early on were going to be paid DLC. I would have gladly given them money for new vault hunters but trying to coerce me to pay to unlock the rest of a VH I already bought is just scummy, the kind of stuff you find in freemium mobile games. It also means that unless the new game mode they teased is entirely end game focused, what we have now is essentially what we get, barring perhaps another takedown being added in somewhere in the next year.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I keep any anoint I get as long as the gun is useful

I'ma tell you what I told another guy. You don't need perfect annointments as you can do every content even with a useless anointment.

@@sonicsucks2961 I never said I need an annointment to do any content. But if I am going for a weapon I want the best version of it. Currently it is extremely effortful to even get the best annointment, let alone parts or element. I could just use Zane and let my clone do everything, or let my Iron Bear do everything or any number of things. The issue is that farming isn't fun because you either have to work off of completely random world drops, or attempt to get it as a dedicated drop which is often rarer than just getting it as a world drop. And when you finally do get the drop it isn't fun or exciting - instead you just feel relief because you don't have to farm the boring, not difficult boss.

@@TheFriskySquid You're making it sound as if it's as difficult as farming a 94% sham. After mayhem 6 all weapons drop with guaranteed anointments and they shortened the amount of anointments in the game to make it even less tedious. Majority of legendaries have set prefixes or Element anyways and legendaries drop so easily. If you're honestly finding this unfun and boring then I don't know how you managed to farm perfect legendaries in BL2.

@@sonicsucks2961 Because perfect legendaries in borderlands 2 required what like 3 part rolls? Perfect ones in BL3 require like 10 part rolls, and annointment. I have farmed for a single Old God with the 30% cooldown rate after exiting iron bear, didn't care about anything else - what element, stats whatever for over 10 hours and still have not gotten one - and it is a dedicated drop from 2 different enemies. I farmed the dedicated drop locations for class mods, and got fewer in 2 hours from the dedicated source than I did of the exact mod I wanted from Graveward in 20 minutes. I could farm a reasonable loadout in BL2 that I was satisfied with, not perfect but good enough in maybe a day or a couple play sessions. Whereas in BL3, even farming dedicated loot sources I can't even get 1 item in that same time that I am satisfied with.

@@cupofcoffee3364 but he says the damage has already been done when gearbox tried to fix it. like dont complain about something that can be fixed then say "no i dont want the fix, i want an apology and i wanna keep complaining" like if you have that kinda logic you need to grow up

@@RoyalLives dude calm down..he says the damage had already been done because half the player base fell off. He's correct about that...and a lot of them have not returned...i literally have only one friend that plays. Complaints help improve quality of life. 6 months ago i wouldn't reccomend this game to anyone...but now I would. Thank God for all the people who complained to improve the game, cause some ppl don't complain and just walk away altogether without looking back. Trust..if ppl didn't complain to see the major improvement we have now...there would be no year 2 content because the game would be dead.

I really don't like how this Epic guy downplays the entire thing. This game was awful. 0 balancing, 0 optimization.

I feel like they should’ve dialed back the story a bit and used BL3 as a setup plotline for the Eridian War if they still are interested in doing that storyline. Or whatever the battle where we were gonna “need all the vault hunter you can get”. It think the Maliwan Vs Atlas would’ve been a good setup where we can bridge the characters from the telltale games to the mainline ones and by the end, bring most of the characters together from past Borderlands games by the end to finish it all off and then finally tease the big battle that’s going to happen in BL4. I think a Infinity War style setup game would’ve been a excellent move for them. Or at the very least if this is the story they really believed in they needed to trim out the fat of the story, take characters like Ava out so we can have more of the past character returning because the cast of Protags is already big enough and hire a better writer or a team of them who are all capable of handling a large cast of characters like this and giving them all natural dialogue that stays true to who they are while also being comedic and/or emotional like Borderlands has always excelled at until BL3 and satisfying character arcs that give us those moments that make the crowds cheer and can’t wait to see more. Also more Player to game interaction in the cutscenes would’ve gone a long way. That is what made BL2 resonate strongly as well plot wise.

Your wish was granted!

Not true at all

It should be a crime to release a 30fps or lower first person shooter on consoles in 2020

at launch yeah, however it's fine now. least for pc

@@barrygolden8518 still optimized poorly for a 2020 full price game. Literally every game I have is better optimized on my PC than this

Just started playing again on the Xbox One and it takes two to three minutes to enter the main menu. That should be unacceptable.

My point exactly. Buch of hypocritical assholes this fandom is.

@@michaelknox3715 I've been a huge fan of Borderlands for the longest time. But I'm very open minded of each entry of the series a whole to be clear i dont hate any of the games even the Pre-sequel and Borderlands 3. And if there is something that i do hate its just a minor stuff and i just learn to deal with it. Like when it comes to weapon buffs and nerf in Borderlands 3 I just learn to deal with it. The base game story of Borderlands 3 maybe bad but its not the end of the world and it could just be reverted back.

I agree with your first point that people are toxic about both tps and 3 and that they shouldn't have been expecting 2. But having said that there is a vast difference between borderlands 2s cutscenes and how they involve the player and 3s cutscenes. To give an easy example the cutscene where roland dies has the player involved. The npcs acted like the vault hunters were there with Jack specifically trying to kill us with Lilith. 3s cutscenes other then one with Troy don't even acknowledge the vault hunters exist. Not even we were too far away or we were countered. It really makes it feel like we weren't a part of the story where as 2 makes sure we were a part of it's story.

I agree about the toxicity as well. The community around Borderlands is just unfortunately "if it isn't Borderlands 2 then the game is bad" I really hate that toxicity around it because 3 isn't nearly as bad as everyone says it is and neither is Pre--Sequel. Just feels like people need to get their heads out of their asses and realize everything can't be how it was in the past and start looking for the good in things while critiquing it rather than full blown hate.

It's so weird that people think that giving up on the main title in their biggest series could even be an option for Gearbox.

Comparing the BL3 DLC to how much Torgue's DLC added flavor and worldbuilding and how Tina's just gave the most satisfying and emotional ending to BL2 I don't see the BL3 DLC that good.

Dlc was lame imo. The reason why the garbage story matters so much is because it is always crammed down your throat

This is a fair review, I would just add that the music was also the best so far