hey man, seems like this game makes you frustrated on this difficulty, nobody wants you upset, maybe drop the difficulty down a tick, love the content and keep it up, no point in being stressed for no reason!

If the game frustrates you this much dude perhaps do a series on the original forest which you seem to prefer, I think it would still have decent enough following. Rekon hardly anyone else is playing it so would be quite unique.

Power attacks are really risky as a first move, I would use the bow, spears and normal attacks more, while circling around them. Edit: You might wanna break the habit of seeing the power attack as the best option every time. Most importantly, start your attack before you reach the enemies

A tip for regaining sleep is to sit on a comfortable chair and listen to music in game using the radio. Within 2 real life minutes you'll have a lot of the sleep bar filled :)

So from this video I noticed that the way you are playing is super aggressive and with almost only power attacks. Power attacks are great... if you can land them, but they open you up for being hit first by a quick attack. You don't really use spears to poke at cannibals legs. If you learn how to parry it will be very easy to handle most cannibals. I recently played on the hardest as well and I did not find it very hard. Next is to do it with melee weapons only which for sure is going to be hard. I do wish that they would add a dodge to the game and also to not let enemies stun lock you. Oh and also, you really need to hotkey stuff like the medics and energy drinks or something similar.

1:52 you can put your stew in your flask. put your pot back on fire then use your flask on it!!

You're playing on the hardest difficulty and are upset it's difficult.

3:18 Stop only doing power attacks.

I miss the OG Forest Farket…

Try changing enemy aggression back to normal if you haven't yet, having it on high will make them extra pissed for no reason.

Farket try not to complain challenge (impossible)

Great video! Here is some information and facts i know that could add to or answer stuff you brought up in this video. 1:18 I agree that enemy aggression increases WAY too fast in this game. At the start of the game enemies will gain 0 anger when they spot you. They will extremely slowly gain anger if you get too close but it depletes rapidly once you leave their personal space. But after you kill around 10 cannibals they will instantly gain a lot of anger whenever they spot you and rapidly gain anger just from your presence. This makes them instantly attack instead of doing any of their more interesting behaviors. And even if you never kill cannibals by day 20 they'll attack you as if you've been wiping out camps the whole time. The worst part is that aggression is global and effects all tribes. So cannibals that you never met on the other side of the map will be just as aggressive as the ones that you've been fighting on your side of the map. I think the developers really need to tone down how quickly cannibals become aggressive and add some way to reduce aggression. I don't think we need a way to become friendly with the cannibals but i'd like a way to reduce their aggression back down to uneasy neutrality. I also think aggression should be per tribe instead of global. They have the technology to do this because memories are recorded for each tribe separately. I think these changes would make interactions with the cannibals much more deep and interesting instead of just kill on site. 3:10 When an enemy is wearing a helmet aim for the shoulders. And if you are using an axe try using normal attacks to hit the cannibals sides instead of his head. The armor blocking all stagger starts feeling less unfair once you learn what attacks to use and where to aim. Once you get high enough strength and/or solafite plating you will have a high chance to stun an enemy even if you hit their armor. Also i strongly recommend parrying. It costs no stamina and once you get the timing down it will make melee combat much easier. I recommend practicing aiming and parrying with your preferred weapon in a separate save using the timescale command to see exactly what part hits the enemy and how to time your parry. For custom building i am pretty disappointed they cut the laser measuring tool. You can find some videos of people spawning it in and using it in early access. The laser measure tool was pretty much going to be this games custom blueprint building and it was seemingly almost finished in patch 15. But then got completely removed from the game files and cut in 1.0. I have strong feeling this item would fix some of your biggest issues with the building. If you wanna see it in action check out simmelsau's video titled "Sons of the Forest | LEAKS #9" and watch from 1:15 to 2:00. I think the issue you are having with the constant enemy raids is because of the annoying way this game handles raids and patrols. Enemy raids are scheduled to happen at set times and when they trigger a horde of enemies will rush your exact location to attack you. There is no indication a raid is happening and the enemies will just come out of nowhere as long as there is a path to your base. The command to see scheduled raids is "aiworldeventstats on". The cannibals also have set patrol spawn points that will randomly spawn a patrol to wander around aimlessly until they find you or are unloaded. These patrols will respawn pretty quickly if you wipe one out which makes them annoying if you live close to a spawn point. Male cannibals (not heavy ones or fats) will also run to lit player campfires to investigate them if they are within 50 meters of one. You can tell you live near a patrol spawn if you are attacked by almost the exact same group of enemies often. 11:55 I think they should just have a setting for max dropped items, bodies, etc. so that players with high end computers can adjust if/when bodies and items despawn. It is really annoying to burn a bunch of bodies and watch 80% of the bones just vanish right in front of you because the game decided that there are too many items on the ground. I really like sons of the forest but the game still feels incomplete. There are a lot of features mentioned in old interviews you and other channels did that would have made the game much more interesting. But so many were never added. It gives me a feeling that endnight bit off more than they could chew with SOTF. I'd like to know what other people think about this.

You're completely justified with what you're feeling. After playing the first one a lot myself, I'm very frustrated with the building changes. I normally enjoy building bases in survival games. I love the planning, the execution, and the organization. SotF changes the whole algorithm for the worse. Not only does it take an exorbitant amount of time to build, but it costs way more supplies than the OG Forest. I swear I'm spending 90% of the game building, and 10% exploring. With the increased map size and the more robust caving system, I would much rather be exploring than having to deal with the mediocre building. Don't get me wrong, this building system can make some beautiful structures, but they should have had it be a choice. Have the free building, but also have the pre-fabs that you can lay down and edit to your liking. Thanks for continuing to make content. I really hope the devs can hear some feedback and take it into consideration! Have a good day dude!

When I go with melee, I try to stay mobile, and use quick attacks. I only use heavy attacks on stunned enemies. The lag to charge a hevay attack makes it easier to be hit, imo. And, the Katana is amazing.

For the stews you can store stews on shelves and pots don’t spoil. Really nice if you store a bunch of water pots. Getting all the pots takes a bit. But it’s so worth it

I honestly think at this point they shat out v1.0 so they could move on from it. As someone who bought it on the first day of "early access" because of how much I liked the first game, I feel like I've learned an important lesson about how my good will can be monetised.

Farket do a Forest (1) playthrough to cleanse the palette, or Valheim or something 😅

Wholesome content, luv it. Yeah, I figured this game got more frustrating but I always defer to your judgement since you know the game much better than most of us. At least the first game still holds up nicely.

I always build first on the shallows of the ocean by the raft with the gun. Cooking pot, MRE’s, turtles, ammo, grenades, C4, rope and usually zip line hooks. Platform 1st, then walls and a roof. Three zip lines from the 3 D printer.

I haven't played in a while so I'm not going to judge you pertaining to being easily annoyed. I would say you need to try and have fun, it's a game with limitations and struggles. It's not perfect but it can be a lot of fun, you need to want to have fun first. If you get hit and knocked down just get up and kick their ass. You will get the groove back. The biggest tip I can give as far as this game goes, while you are under attack always keep your feet moving. I usually attack and retreat in a semi circle, I never stop moving, so it's much harder for them to hit me. Almost like a dance, soon you will be floating around them and stinging like a bee. We love you brother! Cheers

Solution to fatigue problem: Make a chair on top of something, sit in it, take a break (sip some coffee, tea, beer, etc IRL), profit. Never go to sleep completely tired.

Hope you're doing alright man if you ever decide to do different games ill still be here to watch hope life is treating you well God bless

This is why I just build in the ocean/beach. Clear line of sight, low enemy spawns, and easy food. I've only ever built 1 base in the forset and i was attacked constantly on normal. If you're having a hard time run to the beach with a river mouth it makes the game a breeze.

Can you just turn down enemy aggression at least until you're done building? I just wanna watch you casually play through the game. I feel like it would take away from the stress of having to build structures since there isnt as much blueprints anymore

I have the same complaints as you about the game, I often feel like reinstalling the forest, the building system was sooo much better

I've notice that opening caves makes the enemies more and more angry and up the spawn of mutants. If you don't enter any caves, they are all pretty calm and pretty much only spy on you, steal from you and throw stuff at you. The mutants are completely absent.

I completely agree about the aggression. Should have been the same as the first game.

We watch you for the building you do, not for it being difficult. Especially since you dont play to necessarily beat the game.

youre playing on hard tho so its normal that theyre agressive

I feel ya man, only tolerating Forest 2. Friends and I haven't even built a base, we've just been homeless because we don't have the capacity to place things block by block

cannibal behavior should adhere to the sound cues. shooting guns should attract hordes

Seems like a bit of both, this game could still use some tweaking. The enemy armor is definitely bs, I hate it and I've been complaining about the lack of sound for a while. I had a worm sneak up behind me and almost kill me because it didn't make enough noise. That was a while ago.

Sounds like your in a good mood today! Love the new season so far! Edit: after watching the video I can tell it's making you pretty frustrated, which is totally justified, I get pissed off at this game too. It's totally fine if you want to just turn down the difficulty and do a more casual playthrough, and I know me and the rest of us would love it. It would be just like old times. Anyways this is just a suggestion, it's your choice.

I'm with you! I restarted 4 times because I was getting relentlessly attacked and it wouldn't let me sleep because enemies were ALWAYS nearby. This game is too much of everything. The map is too big, the building takes too long and too many resources, there are too many enemies and too many enemy camps. You have to run for ages to get anywhere, which I find incredibly tedious and boring. Finally, I've been killed from behind by a completely silent enemy before I even knew what hit me. No, not finally. I have one HUGE pet peeve, the enemies keep coming through my farking walls. What's the point of building a wall if they morph right through it or throw their spears right through it. I'm on my 5th start now. We'll see how it goes. I'm darn near ready to just quit or use mods (I never use cheats but bloody hell). I feel your annoyance. It's justified, my friend.

3:54 THAT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME

It might be best to customize the difficulty next time around. You can customize enemy health, armor, and aggression so you can kill regular cannibals in a couple hits and move on to the building aspect. Granted, it also makes building a base kind of redundant since you can kill entire groups with no issues at all, but if you want to focus more on building...it's not a bad way to go. I was getting frustrated myself with the exact same problem and...it's a night and day difference. Then again, I'm currently focusing on building in the middle of the large lake northwest of the map so once you get your foundation built in the winter, it's smooth sailing from there. Parry is also pretty useful against normal cannibals and some mutants. Most of the time if they attack, a well time parry will stun them which will allow for a free hit. It is tough to pull off in terms of the timing though.

if you tap right click with an axe it does a parrying animation and you can deflect attacks and stun enemies for a bit. useful for stunning cannibals before giving em an axe to the head

I don't watch anyone playing this game anymore except Farket, so calm down and take your time. It's a fun game, when you take your time. Once you get a killbox setup maybe clean out that field and store your logs until you get some creative juices flowing.

Pro tip: the crafted club has some sort of armor penetration. Kind of like maces vs plate armor. Also, using eggnog in conjunction with pajamas doesn't increase comfort. All the comfort foods increase comfort to 100%, same as pajamas. Having a fire nearby or being indoors does not affect comfort. Source: cheatstick then F3.

Put some stick spikes on top of and around the base of the large rocks, they will pay off 10x more than any other trap. I usually keep a spot open for me to jump on top in the early game. I know you don't read many comments but this is my top tip. Never have to reset it and the enemies are drawn to the large rocks like honey.

Yeah I agree. I'm working on getting footage for a review of the game come October. Dissapointed at the removal of the some features of the first game

you can put your stew in a flask or and have pots full of stew on shelves

have you thought about getting mods for the game to help with all the in game things you aint enjoying?

I have found just building a chair, somewhere away from enemies, and going afk for a couple minutes my sleep bar is full 😊

Modern axe is one of the slowest weapons + power attacking means your attacks are super slow + censor mod preventing cleaving limbs + building near a cave/spawn point = a not quite so good time. Since you can't amputate, might as well use the club which swings faster. I agree about the stun lock on armor. I thought they fixed that, but maybe they tested it and it's too easy to cheese the game?

I tried hard survival with long seaons and the game changes dramatically from enemies food and hunger timings and way more time to do shit during the day. the game gets so much less annoying at least for me. Id give it a try

6:18 mf moonwalked into an attack how the fuck

I actually enjoy the building system as it doesn't feed you generic structures. You can be totally creative with building a base. Drop the difficulty. I have random attacks here and there but the game behaves as I intended it to. Ficus on building with occasional attacks for the action!

Farket, sometime you have to come to grips with how The Forest was built in a way that you loved, but as trendsetters, Endnight has changed the formula into one that is not your cup of tea. I know your name and brand is tied to The Forest, but it doesn't have to be tied to the sequel. You don't seem to have the time, patience, or energy to learn the new systems. Even in fights, I see you doing the same heavy attacks over and over without the grace and technique you established in the forest, hoping for the same results. In the original forest, you developed this amazing timing with your swings that you were able to duck back and come in at perfect timing to stagger the enemies to death and take them out. The rules have changed. You have to either adapt or find a different game to enjoy. It's painful to watch you play almost as much as it is to lose your sh*t.

If they did an update adding the forest building system I would 100% play this game only probably until another forest comes out, but at this stage I cant play more.

I'm pretty sure you said you wanted to be slightly more liberal with guns in this playthrough. If I recall that correctly, than may I recommend the use of slugs with the shotgun. I know they're WAY more difficult to use than the buckshot, but from what I've seen lately they can shatter enemy armor in one blow and still cause dismemberment and decapitation. Or at least knockdown if you hit the torso. I need to test this more, a lot more. But I don't think I've ever seen an enemy that has an entire set of armor on. At least one limb or their chest is gonna be missing armor. Git gud with the slugs and aim for the uncovered bits. I promise you much success. EDIT: Oh right. Censor mod means no dismemberment for you. Off. That's a pickle. I feel like the game was really balanced around dismemberment so removing it is a major handicap. Well. The only thing I can really say you for man is ranged combat. Its the number one difference I see when I watch you versus myself. Even with dismemberment turned off, headshot are still one-hit kills, right? You may onto something talking about Endnight's play testing. I think its more that they do playtest it, but everyone that does playtest it prefers ranged combat. You go melee and with no fitness mechanic in this game is a rough time. I'm telling you. Melee < Ranged. I do feel bad for the git gud remark now that I remember you have no dismemberment. That's my bad, man.

Frankly, I think the best way to deal with all the enemies is just to have players trigger traps off and have a ton of traps around your base location. So instead of just 1 or 2, place down like 20 or so of them first and setup a "trap perimeter" around your base location (or at least at the locations the enemies most often appear).

Build off the Ocean near a stream. You’ll have a MUCH better time of it with enemy attacks.

Building in both Forest and SOF I found the same thing, the attacks were a bit ridiculous in number. I dialled down the aggression level as I tried to simulate reality, whereby the attacks would be less frequent and not as hardcore. If you think about it a small island would only contain a small number of subsistence hunter gatherers, no a freakin horde of relentless savages

I cannot stand getting ganked by cannibal squads 3 times a day, then being woken up in the middle of the night when I try to sleep by another cannibal squad.

Like some others, I suggest to use way more traps + ranged weapons + fire. Worked fine for me on the same custom settings.

I built my base over maintenance bunker A, so i can access the hatch from my house. And a massive fuck you wall around the whole thing.

Even if you don't like defensive walls or bows, everything has its place especially early game and especially on hard mode. Nothing is perfect, enjoy the ride!

I do love Farket games and was so happy when you launched this eager to see the Farket touch to it witch been amazing so far, so different from Vladd wicth Im a big fan of. But I miss the happy Farket. Instead of feeding positive energy witch I always get watching your content. I love how you prep, how youre always a step ahead when it comes to plan storage of items you needed for winter not worry about having enough. this is a bit different from Madds playstyle witch is fun. Now I find myself needing to lower the volume when you get annoyed and irritated.. and I feel sad about that - cause i miss the mental approach you use to have normally. Light mood, entertaining, problemsvolving. But Im glad that you make a point of how you work in this game doesnt match how the game is. I wish you luck and hope also for youre sake that it becomes more fun:) love you and big hug from Norway=)

an issue i have with SOTF: a soon as you keep staying at one point (e.g. building a base) you get rushed with waves over wave. which makes building bases annoying for me. Also there is no real purpose in hoarding lots of items. So it really pushes a nomad playthrough. in TF you also had waves of enemies coming at you, but it felt like on a way later stage. But even then: i don't think the "tower defense" gameplay this gives - even if fun at times - is benefiting the game. slaughtering so many enemies just makes them feel less dangerous / scary.

So bummed how they settled for a block building system in exchange for having the "realism" and animations

I wonder if the reason they have cut back on the Blueprints, is due to Kelvin's function to auto build. keep the player as the driving force in the construction.

I believe that you should lower the difficult, i doesn't really make the game harder only more frustrating, and also that you should have a more straight forward objective on the series

Upping the aggression is what made me continue playing the game. Before 1.0 I just spawned in enemies myself to kill. It used to be so much dead time and now the attacks are awesome. You just stunblock them and then attack. Shesh. Farkets isnt as good as he think in this game. He just can't admit it. Plus he has everything up in difficulty and complains how tough it is. And the building is awesome. He's in too much of a hurry.

i always liked throwing the log i had in my hands at them it stuns them for a second

The game needs a pickaxe to break boulders you can move and use them for rocks

Thank you, I love your video's. Farket you're the best 😁

You got to play the game early so I’m always shocked at how many things you don’t like or surprised by. makes me wonder what feedback you provided. Did they ignore most of the feedback??

Having completed a playthrough on custom max, building a large logical base (especially early) is impractical. An ugly gauntlet of deadfall and flyswatter traps complimented by spikes is more effective than walling off awkward sections of map, at least in the early game. A gauntlet will allow you to establish yourself. Custom max should be approached as a challenge and standard mechanics do not necessarily translate to success. Melee is quite hard at this level but much better with faster weapons -- Golden katana is phenomenal, but the machete may serve you better for now. Crossbow is also amazing for gimping enemies for melee finishes. Bows are effective-ish but the arrow churn gets a bit annoying. I would also consider retreating at times when overwhelmed to regroup via zipline or glider. Just go do something else or raid an mre respawn point to regroup. If nothing else, maybe give Planet Crafter a revisit since it is now 1.0 and less rage inducing?

i think SotF 2.0 will be the actual full release. if we ever get to that point

A question is it fun playing sotf Alone because i like the game alot but i only like to play with my friends but they dont play so is it fun playing alone?

The Forest will always be the best.

Building in SOFT is detriment to progression. It takes way too long from both intensive resourses and building mechanics. Also visitor events are dependent on where you build. Close to a road or water source and expect up to 4 different visist along the day in the first week. I just build a modified tree house in a pathless cliff north and south of the map and mostly for storage. Also if you want to build have a bench with a radio near to recover full energy in a minute or two.

Farket winges: Season 3

play the original forrest next, i think we'd all be keen to see that, showcase the building system

I mentioned in the last video comments this area is almost as spicy as rebreather beach, I hope you stay here and overcome the savageness. Why not use some arrows occasionally?

Honestly man, sometimes I think you should cut your losses and just play The Forest again instead. You really make clear that you do not like the fundamentals of this game and much prefer The Forest in virtually every way, and you are super resistant to all of the changes like many OG Forest players who, imo, are kind of blinded by their nostalgia and unnecessarily rigid / critical of this game. I reviewed SOTF negative during early access, but as of 1.0, honestly I don't think it's in a worse spot than the original game by any means. It's just really different. And you're totally valid in not liking the new systems, but why subject yourself to a miserable time. Especially the difficulty, I really don't understand why you're tweaking the game to be harder in ways it lists, then complaining that those ways are too overtuned or how much you dislike them (ex: Hard Survival). Just play Custom and tweak the game to a state you prefer.

Honestly, after hundreds of hours I gotta say your problems are due to the way you play. I don't experience any of the issues you have. I have no problem building in peace because I choose my location wisely, on the beach. I adjust my custom settings to accommodate my playstyle. As far as combat goes, you do know the bow exists? I mean, I been a fan of yours for quite some time, I just don't see all the issues you do when I play.

I've watched almost all of your content and have been a fan for a really long time. I've watched all of your Forest and Sons of the Forest videos, they've been a massive comfort to me and have helped me through a lot of rough times. I think it'll be good for you to take a bit of a break from Sons of the Forest. Both for your own sake and for your channel. You getting frustrated all of the time over a game isn't good for you and I doubt it's very fun either. You seem to enjoy the original Forest much more and it could be good to go back to something you enjoy. Some people in the comments are being really rude about you complaining, but I do understand where they are coming from. Most people who aren't dedicated fans don't want to listen to someone complaining, you could be turning away potential new fans. I really think you should play a different game for a while or at least lower the difficulty/get some mods to remove the stuff you don't like. I hope you're doing ok. No matter what you do, I'm still going to watch and enjoy your content.

I think they are sending you too many enemies, and the cannibals also get armor really fast compared to the player

hello! i've been thinking about this for a while but it really seems like this game just isn't for you. you really don't have to subject yourself to so much annoyance, it's so frequent where you start going on rants about many things in the game that you think the first game simply does much better. sons of the forest is a very different game, it's okay not to like most of it. i can't speak for other viewers but i really don't want you to force yourself to do something you don't enjoy just because "it's the new one". just take it easy, please

proud of you for still playing even though endnight seems to not play their own game 😭😭

I did not find this game frustrating but I also did not take the game seriously at all. I played it way less than The Forest and I treated it more like an action game. There's no way I would continue to play a game that makes me super frustrated. A hard game is fine, but if it is difficult without good reason, then it's just not fun. Every video I watch where you get frustrated, I ask myself why you're still playing it. We'll happily watch videos on other games, if viewership is of any concern to you.

Is there a way to lower enemy count? The difficulty or their health isnt so much a problem but it’s just constant fighting. Have fun and do what you like pal

Love your content and your creativity and drive to build cool things. Hopefully you can find a balance with the game that doesn't make it frustrating for you. Hope you have a good day mate. Thanks for all the entertainment over the years.

Love your vids Farket, glad to see you still posting evening after stuff thats happened to u irl

You are totally justified in your frustration imo. I remember having fun with building massive and crazy contraption with no sweat back in the Forrest days. This building system is a little too... realistic

6:43 lul at that cannibal crawling out like that

3:57 isn't there a way to disable all building animations? I'm sure I've seen others do it. Not sure if it was a mod or not, maybe a good quality of life option for you.

Honestly, I'd reccomend lowering down the difficulty to normal. Playing on hard is frustrating enough and you also have it worse because you can't dismember the enemies, which is a huge part of the combat system. Shame that there isn't any way (I think) to have the game censored without changing how combat works. I doubt that anyone would be dissapointed if you toned down the difficulty and the game would become more enjoyable for sure.

65 and a half hours into the game myself and where did you get that hookgun from? I mean, i have found several bits and pieces now for a lot of things but the crossbow for instance no luck finding it. Ammo for a shotgun and a lot of other parts but hey, maybe i can throw the ammo at them, maybe it will explode in their faces. 🙄 The main story of his game seems to be driven by scarce notes, like finding a needle in a haystack, no worse, on a whole artificial island.

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endnight should just redo the forest, with these graphics, same enemies, same building,

I ended up stopping playing Sons of the Forest. A friend bought it for me when it was announced, we didn't realize it was Early Access so we didn't touch it until release drops and it's shit. We haven't played it since launch. It is a HUGE downgrade from The Forest in almost EVERY way and it's very sad. I'm subscribed only to check back in and see if they make it actually fun to play.

there is nothing we can do 🇫🇷

maybe drop the difficulty a bit man

I want the old building back sooooo bad.. A bunch of mutants came and fucked up my wall, so now i have to destroy it completely and build it *from the ground up* to fix.. I'm fucking losing it, the ground is sliiiiiiiiiiiiightly angled and so it won't snap on to the other brick.

I thought you can turn animations off..

Love the videos :)

I actually downloaded and reinstalled the forest, first time in 4 years... I really miss the building, the custom foundation and even the turtle track (roller coaster). so many things came flooding back to me. Can't we import Kelvin and Virginia into the Forest and be done with it lol