The Cure: Rock Case Studies | Full Documentary | Tony Dolan | Jerry Ewing | Hugh Wright

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Жыл бұрын

The film draws on archives, respected musicians, and Cure fans to bring new perspectives to the music of the band, combined with an analysis of rare Cure tracks and performances by the cream of today’s rock journalists, to ensure this addition to the Rock Case Studies series is essential viewing for those who want to know what it takes to make a great rock band.
Bursting onto the scene in the late 1970s in the wake of the UK punk revolution, The Cure's dark, powerful art trick soon won a legion of devoted fans. Fronted by the extraordinary Robert Smith, the band released a string of groundbreaking albums - including Three Imaginary Boys, Filth, Pornography, and Disintegration - and enjoyed a healthy number of hit singles. In this critical release, respected musicians and Cure fans bring new perspectives to the band's music; they clearly, concisely explain what it is that sets them apart; what qualities in the songs make them sound as fresh today as when they were first released. The program also features a rare archive interview with Robert Smith himself, who brings his personal memories and insights to the making of the Pornography and Disintegration albums. In addition to this, also featured is superb archive footage of the band performing on the cult 1980s British music show The Tube. All this is combined with an analysis of rare Cure tracks and performances by the cream of today's rock journalists, to ensure that addition to the Rock Case Studies series is an essential purchase for those who want to know what it takes to make a great rock band.
Director: The Creative Picture Company
Cast: Tony Dolan, Jerry Ewing, Hugh Wright
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@kimbratten6285
@kimbratten6285 11 ай бұрын
I saw them in Montreal a month ago. I live in the USA and drove 9 hours to get there. He was awesome and sang better than ever. I've been going to Cure concerts for 40 years.
@katecaven7942
@katecaven7942 4 ай бұрын
Flew over 17,000kms, Melbourne to Dublin to finally see them. Worth EVERY cent and km ❤❤❤
@syyneater
@syyneater 3 ай бұрын
We did London, Boston, Philadelphia, Columbia (Maryland, close to where we live). Each show was just incredible. It was nice to see so many younger people there and loving it.
@taffycat5049
@taffycat5049 Жыл бұрын
It's so hard to explain to anyone today how groundbreaking The Cure's look and sound were in those early days. An earring on a guy? Makeup on a guy? (Well he must be...). Today, kids get the benefit of all of the looks and sounds The Cure helped shape for music forever. 🖤🖤🖤💋💋💋
@VabbbeDicaaa
@VabbbeDicaaa Жыл бұрын
Probably in America that was very true. Don't get me wrong, the Cure are my favorite band, but hearings and makeup were hardly shocking in London where I lived at the time, where in the post punk era everything was acceptable. Even tame bands like Duran Duran had plenty of makeup and earrings, Boy George was almost going around in drag, the New Romantics were dressed in very effeminate costumes, and nobody was shocked. Well, nobody under the age of 35 of course LOL Of course the look and the attitude of Robert helped create a unique and distinguished entity, but it really is the music and the unique voice of Robert and its use that made the difference.
@gingerespinoza5015
@gingerespinoza5015 Жыл бұрын
NO. David Bowie was before them...Culture Club...there are more..
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista Жыл бұрын
But their sound, writing, lyrics, influence and staying a band consistently (45 years now) is why they are in the rock and roll hall of fame! Are the others? 🤔
@captainfeedback1
@captainfeedback1 Жыл бұрын
I was a teenage Cure fan in the late 80s and when I got my ear pierced because of RS I actually heard my dad speculating about whether it meant, well, you know... 🙄
@Rxlrpl
@Rxlrpl Жыл бұрын
Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Elton John and the New York Dolls were there a decade before. Little Richard three decades before. But I agree the Cure were groundbreaking musically.
@npentino
@npentino Жыл бұрын
In the overall picture, I feel like the Cure is completely underrated. Amazing!
@lauralosapio2528
@lauralosapio2528 Жыл бұрын
The Cure are REAL ARTISTS, thats just it❤❤
@nedabagheri5764
@nedabagheri5764 10 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic documentary. It’s great listening to these people who seem like genuine fans who have an amazing understanding of the band and their history. Robert is a musical genius that should take his well deserved place in the annals of history. I wish they could have accessed the bands actual music instead of cover, although they were well done. The original songs with Roberts vocals are untouchable.
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 11 күн бұрын
My parents were distraught when I went to see The Cure in 1979 - they even burnt my concert T-shirt. That just made me love them more, and I saw them many times in the early 80s. Amazing, they're still going, and Robert's voice is a good as ever. ❤
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista Жыл бұрын
I just saw them 5/31/23 here in Portland OR. It was magical. ✨ I even played in a Cure tribute band, The Xploding Boys for 7 years (I was Simonette). Yes, it is very hard to explain that their influence is present even in today's artists like Taylor Swift! It's the writing, storytelling, and even a certain number (s) and hatred of Ticketmaster. Only a music dork like me would notice that. All I know is they better be here forever and never say goodbye ❣️
@lydian.773
@lydian.773 Жыл бұрын
Omg. The Portland show was pure MAGIC! A lot of artists these days only write lyrics in the "first person". There's a dirth of imagination and storytelling. But The Cure are so endlessly exploratory and poetic. They touch the soul. That's so rare.
@ZackBlackMusic
@ZackBlackMusic 8 ай бұрын
Oh Nice. I saw your band, The Xploding Boys years ago in Portland. You guys were really awesome!!
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista 8 ай бұрын
​@@ZackBlackMusicThanks, it was good times for sure!
@mfi-cf7sp
@mfi-cf7sp 11 ай бұрын
no one on this planet can ever convince me that Robert Smith isn’t the most talented singer/ songwriter at least to ever come out of England but for the genre(s) they partake in as well. I listen to everything but rap so I have faves in all other genres 🖤 The Cure is very special to me
@crazycatman5928
@crazycatman5928 Жыл бұрын
Been a fan of the cure for 40 years. I was an MTV child and remember their videos. In my later life I found Joy Division. Which led me to other Cure songs.
@62comet
@62comet Жыл бұрын
My 12 year old can’t appreciate the MTV generation. He loves rock and other music but it’s KZfaq. Videos were stories in my mind. The way Thriller was advertised for weeks as a mini-movie. We had to make sure our life was arranged around that day and time. Can’t go back now. They can’t SIT through one YT video. Mass consumption with no attention span. Instant gratification.
@ourfloridagarden4191
@ourfloridagarden4191 Жыл бұрын
I always put the Cure on when I want a fun, happy time. I can see how people felt melancholy while listening but not me ever.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 9 ай бұрын
Fear of going to sleep and not wakeing up, this man is so clever so many people respect and theres no ego with these guys.
@johnschroeder3172
@johnschroeder3172 6 ай бұрын
The cure makes me miss people I don't usually miss...God to be a teen in the 90's was perfect for live shows..
@lisascanlon8294
@lisascanlon8294 11 ай бұрын
I loved the cure long before kiss kiss me. I still love them. The lyrics and the voice and the instrumental aspects. In my view sorta growing up with the cure I love them and appreciate the cure. I still listen to everyday. Thank you for your beautiful music
@williamwilkes9873
@williamwilkes9873 8 ай бұрын
They just are.......Cure.........unique...........all their music is beautiful..,...........
@richardjames1946
@richardjames1946 Жыл бұрын
(Next album sounds different from the last and no two sound alike) I think was the idea for the Cure. All sounds great to me 💙🌞
@MatthewStevens-du1hk
@MatthewStevens-du1hk 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been to 2 of Cure’s “last” concerts… Rumors have it I might have to go see another “last” tour ❤😂
@serhiimezentsev8824
@serhiimezentsev8824 11 ай бұрын
Real masters! Love them now! Never've been a fan at my yearly ages but realize now how they're great!
@planetclay
@planetclay Жыл бұрын
never once did i consider The Cure to be a goth band....sure they mighta looked quite jaded dark and kinky but their musical heart was, for the most part, bright effervescent and sublime, despite perhaps, even themselves.
@juanma6180
@juanma6180 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful way to describe them
@mapndo2337
@mapndo2337 9 ай бұрын
The complete opposite
@jkrenz77
@jkrenz77 3 ай бұрын
I’m dying. This is great. I love this bad so much. Met them and have been seeing them live since ‘92…although I’ve always thought I was way too late. I always wanted to see them in the 80s…but grateful still. Love you, boys!!!
@octachron_ios_drum_sequencer
@octachron_ios_drum_sequencer 8 ай бұрын
Really great in depth documentary on one of my very favorite bands. Thank you very much! 🙃🙂
@AreGulbrandsen
@AreGulbrandsen Жыл бұрын
I watched every minute of it, but must say that this was really an awful The Cure documentary, despite some interesting clips from Robert Smith interviews. Using unoriginal covers in a music documentary is just unforgiveable. If you can't afford to play the real music you should not make the documentary. Some of the takes from the "industry experts" were interesting, but I think at least two of the so called experts interviewed didn't really know much about the Cure's history. One of them suggesting maybe the band should have tried to continue in the same direction after Pornography, which almost was a suicide for both the band and Robert Smith, makes me distrust everything he says.
@PROGROCK-tr9hw
@PROGROCK-tr9hw 8 ай бұрын
The cover versions were annoying
@BeatriceJohnson-co7dw
@BeatriceJohnson-co7dw 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree they said a few things that were off and made me feel they don’t know very much
@redriver6541
@redriver6541 16 күн бұрын
???? Opinions are like ....holes. Most people who are one believe others want to know about.
@1978pq
@1978pq Жыл бұрын
Kiss me is a great album as it is.
@amandaadkins1215
@amandaadkins1215 Жыл бұрын
Robert Smith said in an interview he wrote Faith when he was contemplating religion. He grew up in a Catholic household and he veered away from it and became an atheist. He also stated how he hated religion. All types. That's where Faith came from.
@cristophm
@cristophm Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that radio DJ had not listened to the Cure before.
@mfi-cf7sp
@mfi-cf7sp 11 ай бұрын
also, terrific documentary 🖤 thank you
@TheStream
@TheStream 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 9 ай бұрын
The cure are just amazing.
@jasonkyle4233
@jasonkyle4233 Жыл бұрын
❤ can't even listen to cure albums without feeling ever emotion sad happy love excitement scared they are all there
@claudinerowland8552
@claudinerowland8552 Жыл бұрын
Epic talent🖤
@ericpanissidi6761
@ericpanissidi6761 Жыл бұрын
On the edge of the deep green sea, huh, magic
@mikesmusic4292
@mikesmusic4292 11 ай бұрын
i actuallly think that the album " the top " has many great songs , empty world , wailing wall are my faves and then on the deluxe , the bootleg versions of the top and forever are pure quality
@HansWurst-iq9xe
@HansWurst-iq9xe 6 ай бұрын
The Top songs are really boring…
@Silomirakel
@Silomirakel 6 ай бұрын
Anyone know what version of A Forest it is being featured here? The vocals, synth and guitar is different from the version on the record. Edit: Its a cover version isnt it? 😅
@modsleix6
@modsleix6 4 ай бұрын
All the non-live versions of songs on this docu are covers.
@williamwilkes9873
@williamwilkes9873 7 ай бұрын
They have never stagnated........they constantly evolve.......they have the rare poppy song but are essentially a massíve expanse of doom laden anst.......as dark as can be ímagined....,..laced with mousic of astonishing beauty, meodious to a fault.......members leave, often retiurning weaving bbrilliant musicíanship, subtle & diverse/íncedibly powerful,.....whatever ís reqúíred,..,, this music trañscends emotións tó take you somewhere ...,..,....different.......l siimply dó not know where.................
@williamwilkes9873
@williamwilkes9873 7 ай бұрын
Angst...........my error, my slip...........
@williamwilkes9873
@williamwilkes9873 7 ай бұрын
All my errórs........so sorry........
@kima2396
@kima2396 3 ай бұрын
Yes! I stopped listening to this just a few minutes in because they kept referring to the band as "pop." Yes, they have pop hits but there is soooo much more to them. As you say, that's one of the amazing things about them. Their range and diversity has kept me listening for decades.
@admtownsend
@admtownsend 3 ай бұрын
In my 20s after a big night would get into bed but never without putting on Disintegration on the turn table - there masterpiece Album IMO. Head on a Door Kiss me Kiss me brilliant albums- Boys don’t cry - what a band. Love them.
@mrhbsaucepunkrocknewwavevi7946
@mrhbsaucepunkrocknewwavevi7946 Жыл бұрын
Goths, no goths in the audience when I saw them in 1978
@davidcross4384
@davidcross4384 Жыл бұрын
0:10 In England every band wanted to be a "pop band", but that's in England and Europe. In America alternative music, like Robert here, is underground goth band. In England Robert, stay your pop mode, you're correct to say, which it is. In America, switch to goth mode. Cuz, 80% of the fans here are Goth/alternative music people.
@bendbzs8023
@bendbzs8023 Жыл бұрын
He [Smith] concluded: “The Cure just aren’t a goth band. When people say it to me, you’re goth, I say you either have never heard us play or you have no idea what goth is. One of those two has to be true because we’re not a goth band.” Who cares about Pop/Goth/Alternative? "Europe only likes pop, but we, the States, like Alternative/Goth." Wow, you're so cool... Or what's the deal here? Smith dismissed these kinds of people trying to put a label on the Cure because they clearly didn't understand the band and you seem to be one of them.
@mariah3654
@mariah3654 Жыл бұрын
​@@bendbzs8023100%
@david_post_punk
@david_post_punk Жыл бұрын
Well, nice little doc , but it's just a summarized version of what a real documentary would look like , it's impossible to describe The Cure under an hour, i can talk about Faith an Hour for instance
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista Жыл бұрын
I still can't believe they played "Killing an Arab" at the Seattle show on 6/1/23. In today's oversensitive world? They usually play that in the UK! And, if they play The eXploding Boy any time soon, I'd die! ❣️
@lucazzitto87
@lucazzitto87 Жыл бұрын
A Holy Hour?! No pun intended 😂
@ArtOfScottSolo
@ArtOfScottSolo Жыл бұрын
Other than using covers in this documentary, it's pretty good.
@astralmatrix
@astralmatrix Жыл бұрын
At first when I heard Bananafishbones I thought was a weird live version but the synth sounded too much like Shreds-type stuff. I get it, they need copyright$ clearance to use The Cure's recordings but it makes it rough to get through.
@zoeherriot
@zoeherriot Жыл бұрын
@@astralmatrix Bananafishbones is definitely a live version by The Cure - it was recorded for the show The Tube in 1984. It's the only one that is an "original" track.
@astralmatrix
@astralmatrix Жыл бұрын
@@zoeherriot Wow, interesting, thanks!
@amytaylor9268
@amytaylor9268 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the voice was super creepy in a not good way
@captainfeedback1
@captainfeedback1 Жыл бұрын
35:15 Close To Me - "simple bass guitar, simple guitar overlays..." There is no guitar on Close To Me, other than the bass...!
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista Жыл бұрын
The best part for me! Simon was my main bass influence.
@salomanca
@salomanca 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@RobertMcDougall73
@RobertMcDougall73 11 ай бұрын
I was going to comment the The Cure - A Forest may have been based on Tears for Fears - Mad World, but looked up and The Cure was first
@mikesmusic4292
@mikesmusic4292 11 ай бұрын
the comments on 17 seconds were not right in my opinion , i think m, play for today , secreats and three are excellent , especialy the version of 3 on the deluxe edition , also reflection is good both studio and live
@peleamsterdam
@peleamsterdam 8 ай бұрын
Some of her time lines are out here as Nick Cave and Bad Seeds came along well after Pornography.
@James-wj8eq
@James-wj8eq 19 күн бұрын
You are the one mistaken, the Birthday Party had already morphed into The Badseeds by 1984. Nick and co were actually touring the U.S in '84 as Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds.
@peleamsterdam
@peleamsterdam 11 күн бұрын
@@James-wj8eq I’m aware as I went to one of Caves first solo gig which was a “secret gig” in Camden. Can’t even remember why I wrote this but will maybe revisit this one day but Pornography was released in 82, 2 years before.
@RelativeBadger
@RelativeBadger Жыл бұрын
Why are all the songs in this video covers?
@jonathancarter1826
@jonathancarter1826 Жыл бұрын
Probably copyright
@rochoa11
@rochoa11 Жыл бұрын
Lol is this doc using cover songs???
@HerveBoisde
@HerveBoisde Жыл бұрын
It’s an unfortunately a byproduct of not being able to afford the licensing rights when making a less than big budget music documentary. But these are some of the best interviews and takes from industry experts that I’ve seen. It’s a really good doc despite the cover versions which fortunately are pretty faithful musically though hardly perfect b
@richardjames1946
@richardjames1946 Жыл бұрын
Did sound different. Filter? Pro tools? Ha ha
@mikesmusic4292
@mikesmusic4292 11 ай бұрын
most of them were right about the kiss me album , i try to like it , but i have never got hot hot hot , bit like lovecats i dont buy em , but the kiss , fight heavan , catch , its true with the right tracklisting this wld have def been a great single album ,
@ecce_neru
@ecce_neru Жыл бұрын
Marcus!!!
@miless544
@miless544 Жыл бұрын
Natasha Scharf, Elvira called and she wants her act back.
@fabianreetz2265
@fabianreetz2265 Жыл бұрын
Its faith and not filth thoo
@mikesmusic4292
@mikesmusic4292 11 ай бұрын
they were never a goth band , but i wld have loved to have seen them live at the batcave in 82 with alien sex fiend and bauhaus to see how that wld work , but their set wld have to be faith and pornigraphy though , it wldnt have worked with 3 imag boys
@TheStream
@TheStream 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@arefriendsaseptic
@arefriendsaseptic 5 ай бұрын
"If you want to regard being on a lot of drugs as a more mature sound, then perhaps it was.". Whats a stupid thing to say, Natasha Scharf.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 Жыл бұрын
Is Lullaby more disturbing than The Figurehead? Really...
@fishmanandginne7495
@fishmanandginne7495 8 ай бұрын
Disintegration helped me thru a tough breakup. Highly recommended.
@shamlamb3961
@shamlamb3961 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t a Cure fan till saw them Gladstonbury 1990. Apart from RDF in Liverpool, they still are the best band I’ve ever seen live. This documentary is shite and unrepresentative of their music.
@tutsybassista
@tutsybassista Жыл бұрын
Add one more. MUSE destroys live!
@youjoker9647
@youjoker9647 Жыл бұрын
Was there in 1990. Remember the helicopter landing to rescue a girl who was ill. Great headliners..
@OtherMike5000
@OtherMike5000 Жыл бұрын
MicDuc
@cedwardmassey
@cedwardmassey 11 ай бұрын
This is not a documentary
@salubrious
@salubrious 6 ай бұрын
18:34 => "Charlotte Sometimes" isn't on "Faith".
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 4 ай бұрын
Not originally but, it is now on re-issues of _'Faith'._
@garytaylor-ty6xt
@garytaylor-ty6xt Жыл бұрын
Sure robhead the knob head used to drink with mozza in central Manchester they used to swap lyrics etc... In that famous café yeah u know the 1 🇬🇧 Mozza wrote half the cure songs y the bitterness between the two now there's your answer!
@HansWurst-iq9xe
@HansWurst-iq9xe 6 ай бұрын
Simon Gallup is the best Bassist ever!!! Hear Other Voices from Faith….
@ZVvereVvolf
@ZVvereVvolf Жыл бұрын
The goth chick with the spider web shirt... Its so tiring to hear everything be about drugs... I'm sure Robert is a much more intelligent song writer that what she seems to credit to him.
@defbizkit
@defbizkit 6 ай бұрын
I find this documentary very culty and about people's opinions and imaginations about the image of the Cure.. Which is unfortunately not very accurate. I dont think Robert Smith would appreciate a lot of what has been said in it.
@ZVvereVvolf
@ZVvereVvolf 6 ай бұрын
@@defbizkit Agreed!
@zino67
@zino67 Жыл бұрын
오~ 노~ 태평양 쌩쓰 ㅠㅠ
@mikeyj.3605
@mikeyj.3605 Жыл бұрын
Damn this is bloody awful
@aybxss
@aybxss Жыл бұрын
yeah 😂 the covers took me by surprised i had to stop and laugh
@andrespi2009
@andrespi2009 11 ай бұрын
I listen the cure since killing an arab,... Unique flawless
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 9 ай бұрын
Its a,decent track.kind regards.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 9 ай бұрын
Sorry to many full stops, but this band are amazing.
@robertmiller4217
@robertmiller4217 Жыл бұрын
moved closer to TooL
@david_post_punk
@david_post_punk Жыл бұрын
sTool
@jazzyKat116
@jazzyKat116 Ай бұрын
This would be SO much better with all Cure versions of the songs. The covers are a complete disconnect for me. To be talking about Robert's voice while hearing....not Robert's voice...well, it doesn't even make sense. One strives to hear in the song the speaker's interpretation, perhaps to gain a different persective....hear something in the song that maybe they've never noticed before. But then...nope....you can't....because it's not even The Cure. What was the thought process here? Is it a usage rights issue?
@bebop425
@bebop425 Жыл бұрын
As a longtime Cure fan, don't watch this. The commentary is 90+% contrived and boring. If you are a new fan, this isn't going to tell you anything useful. Listen to the band's music. The most interesting thing I got from this is Porl/Pearl is Robert's brother in law.
@bebop425
@bebop425 Жыл бұрын
Also, the music you hear is almost all garbage covers...
@MikeBodo
@MikeBodo 9 ай бұрын
Love the documentary, but hate all the live songs from live performance of The Top. It's amazing that album charted top 10 given how disjointed and non-melodic the songs on that album are, which explains why it's my least favorite Cure album. Ironically, iconic Cure songs such as The Walk, The Caterpillar and The Lovecats came from this same period, which is a strange dichotomy, but then that's The Cure.
@charlietwotimes
@charlietwotimes 8 ай бұрын
The Cure aren't Goth just because the goth kids liked them just like I'm not a strawberry just because I visit the greengrocer.
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 4 ай бұрын
Funny how you get people saying they aren't Goth and yet Lol Tolhurst just wrote a book entitled _'Goth'_ which contradicts that silly notion. For *_DECADES_* The Cure has been hailed as Post Punk, New Wave, Darkwave *_AND_* Goth but, now the casual "normies" who like the band's "happier & friendlier", more "accessible" tunes but, who don't identify as "goth" want to take the band and make it "their own". Just cause Smith and others from other well-known Goth bands say they're "not Goth", doesn't make it so. The people decide that and it's quite disrespectful for these bands to raise their noses and make a face at the Goth tag. I mean, really, who do they think put their bands on the map *_in the first place?_* Britney Spears fans? Metallica fans? Kanye West fans? *_PLEASE._* They might not be *"full on"* Goth but, to say they aren't Goth at all is just ridiculous. If it's walked like a Goth, talked like a Goth, looked like a Goth and sounded like a Goth for the better part of 4+ *DECADES?....* Yeah...
@charlietwotimes
@charlietwotimes 4 ай бұрын
@@RiverOfBlacklights Lol T saying they're Goth makes them Goth but Smiley Bob saying they're NOT doesn't mean they're not? Andddd I've been into The Cure since I listened to my sister's cassette of Boys Don't Cry when I was in primary school. I'm not just about Friday I'm in Love & Let's Go to Bed. I'm more a All Cats Are a Grey kinda guy. Who wore black nail polish & grew his hair out like Simon.. I'm not a Strawberry. The Cure aren't Goth. Some of their music is. But they aren't.
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 4 ай бұрын
​​​​​​@@charlietwotimesYou're just proving my point - just cause Smith and you say they aren't and were never Goth, the 4+ *_DECADES_* of them being Goth (amongst several other genres) say otherwise. Tolhurst is simply reiterating the obvious. The fact you say some of their music is A) contradicts yourself, B) proves what I said about them being in multiple genres, *_INCLUDING GOTH,_* right. Smith, Eldricht, Sioux etc. etc. saying their rsspective bands aren't or were never Goth makes as much sense as if Biafra and Danzig would now start saying their bands were never Punk or Hetfield and Mustaine saying they were never Metal, for example. Paint in any color you want, you got not one, not two, not three but more than 4 *_DECADES_* (let that sink in for a moment) of music history contradicting you. They've been known as Goth the world over and will continue to be known as Goth the world over. That's just a fact. Simple as that. Period. (P.S. And since you want to throw in how long you've been listening to them, I've been listening to them probably since befre you or your sister were born... just saying)
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 4 ай бұрын
@@charlietwotimes You and Smith can say they aren't as much as you want, it doesn't change the *_FACT,_* not opinion, that in most music circles, they are and will *_ALWAYS BE_* recognized as Goth. _"Some of their music is. But they aren't."_ - so some of their music is (actually, more than just "some") *_which inevitably makes them Goth._* Saying "But they aren't" is irrelevant as we aren't discussing each individual member. We're talking about the band as a whole and more importantly - the music they made/make. (P.S. How long you, I or anyone else has been listening to the band is also irrelevant cause it changes *_NOTHING_* about how the band has been categorized for the last 40+ yrs... What I do find odd is that if you have been listening to the band for what you claim to be a while (I assume) and you still believe that they "aren't" Goth.)
@taramilton8695
@taramilton8695 Жыл бұрын
Great band, crap doc...
@Carte-Blanche-NZ
@Carte-Blanche-NZ Жыл бұрын
Aspects of Three imaginary boys w as just so good, but Seventeen Seconds .. much atmosphere! I hate the description of pop, or bleak sounds. It’s just not that simple. I’ve always thought Robert Smiths image is symptomatic of his sensitive nature. You can hear it in his voice. Awkward and seductive.
@andrewcuevas1958
@andrewcuevas1958 9 ай бұрын
I rather jump in the river than sing 😂
@jeremybotsford2232
@jeremybotsford2232 Ай бұрын
the interviewed people are not cure fans.
@melissawells5779
@melissawells5779 8 ай бұрын
Just love that accent, very sexy
@finneogan
@finneogan Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the claim that A Forest was "the first indication of a goth band or a Goth side to The Cure lurking within their framework" is so ridiculous I stopped watching. The Subway Song or 10:15 Saturday Night were what exactly? Power Pop?
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 Жыл бұрын
They are kinda clueless pretentious critics
@GODsCHILD-lm6df
@GODsCHILD-lm6df 10 ай бұрын
I'm Cold is my favorite
@ghostzarro
@ghostzarro 10 ай бұрын
love the cure, but not this documentary. how do you spend less than a minute on disintegration? head on the door and japanese whispers were hardly mentioned. how is kiss me too long? the description of hot hot hot made me cringe. i think you could have picked randoms from the street in front of the studio and had better commentary. phew, lots of irritation about a vid, gunna go wash it off with a little hanging garden
@dayzeofclarity
@dayzeofclarity Ай бұрын
A bunch of people who nothing about the band, offering their opinions.... terrible
@HansWurst-iq9xe
@HansWurst-iq9xe 6 ай бұрын
17 seconds: 👍👍👍👍 Faith: 👍👍👍👍👍pornography👍👍👍 the other Albums are just not important at all…
@nickl9317
@nickl9317 Жыл бұрын
Lullaby is a super scary song, enticing but dangerous, not at all a lullaby, like poison that makes you feel nice and numb while you’re being eaten alive. The radio guy is very dumb.
@Halfscotboy_39
@Halfscotboy_39 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! I got so freaked out when I accidentally seen it on my television back in that day that I couldn't sleep for a number of years before my early teens.
@chrisevans1255
@chrisevans1255 11 ай бұрын
Since when was Charlotte Sometimes on "Faith"?? WTF? Grrrrr
@chrisevans1255
@chrisevans1255 11 ай бұрын
Why the crappy re-recorded versions? A Forest sounds awful here...the original should have been used.
@tikitorturedmf
@tikitorturedmf 6 ай бұрын
I love them a lot, but let’s not kid ourselves…they have a lot of really boring songs too.
@kima2396
@kima2396 3 ай бұрын
Burn the heretic! (Just kidding.) There's only about one album of The Cure's that doesn't really draw me in, and some albums/songs don't call to me unless I'm in the right mood, but they're still my favorite band. To each their own. Peace!
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