Worries about the state of the game. Runs around with P90. That checks out.

They really did drop the ball on not hiring more devs besides some new 3d modelers. Really hoping this next update is as big as they're hyping it up to be.

I adore the game. There is so much potential here. They need to move FAST before it becomes a graveyard. It has a dedicated playerbase now but not sure if itll last another 6 months...

Who stops playing a fun game just because stuff isn't added fast enough? Fun games are fun regardless.

Dev expansion is definitely key it allows for ideas to be brought up that refreshes the game, and allows bigger updates to be released faster and reduces the crunch the devs have overall hopefully the next big update is going to be THE update that brings new and old players back im prayin

I think one of the biggest issues yet to be solved is the lack of main menu player + weapon customization system. Currently, you can only customize your loadouts and soldiers in-game, which is really inconvenient and results in a lot of people just skipping customization entirely. I've done polls on the BBR subreddit, and as much as *35%-ish* of the playerbase has *no idea* that you can customize what your soldier looks like. If that's the case, imagine how many more people don't know you can switch your weapon and customize attachments. Being unable to do that removes a lot of replayability, and although it is sorta the playerbase's fault for missing such an obvious feature, it doesn't matter. If your players aren't aware of a such a crucial feature, they will get bored and stop playing. As developers, you have to account for oblivious players, because that's your playerbase and them leaving will hurt the game no matter what. It'd be nice if you could save loadouts too. The other factor I think is kicking this game in the dust is the unfortunate reality of people nowadays: *they have much lower attention spans.* Things like social media and the gaming market's new ability to pump out loads of content so quickly has caused people to rely on those constant updates, even if they content itself is not really great. BBR unfortunately can't do such a thing with 3 devs, and because of that, players just move on. They want new stuff, so they'll go to other games to get it. Again, it's not really the dev's fault, it's just how people are now, and if you want people to play your game, you must, again, account for them. Like what you said, *BBR devs need to hire more people.* They already expressed the worry of hiring the wrong people and losing the game's OG vision, which is a reasonable fear, but it doesn't matter at the end of the day. BBR needs to account for the current day playerbase and give them very strong QoL updates and good new content, and the only way to do that is to get more people on the team. It's a risk, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't take it. BBR devs have shown some pretty solid skills and understanding of their own game, so I think they can take those risks and make it out with a stronger game. They just need to swallow the pill and take the leap.

What you said at 1:11, I 100% agree with. I'm actually baffled BattleBit's player-base has waned so much. I remember back people were team COD or team Battlefield, and when BF3 came out that was the only game people (including myself) would play for years. Even if there were DLCs planned it wasn't anytime real soon. I'm still enjoying BattleBit just as much as I did day 1, so is it truly the game's lack of innovations (part of it definitely as you pointed out). Or is a big reason that people's attention spans + the game market saturation is drawing them away?

So sad to see man. I still play it almost daily but everyone i know doesnt and i cant blame them..

As much as i hate to admit it you kinda hit the nail on the head. Battlebit has been feeling kind of dryed up with the lack of content. We got like 2 new weapons, 1 new gadget, and 2-3 new maps, along with some balance updates and map reworks. Normally for an indie studio this is fairly normal but battlebit was a smash hit and earned so much money so for them to not put the money they earned back into the game with new devs which would make more new content which makes more money is really sad. Hopefully they start putting the cash back into the game, even a team of 7-10 people would massively improve things. Hopefully this new update brings some life back because it's looking to be big

I hope that the next update helps put it back in a better state. They still need to work on the netcode, add value to prestiging, and then work on the rest.

I was surprised to have to wait for a match to launch the other day. But the game doesn't feel dead AT ALL. The gameplay is still awesome, the community is still funny and awesome, everything's great tbh. I suppose they can push for new things, but it's hard to keep the game consistent

In my honest opinion, the game needs bigger updates to bring people back and ideally around times when other big releases come around. I honestly don't think Battlebit should be a type of game you only play but rather cycle in and out of. A lot of big games came out during that time between June and august like Starfield(September 6th) and Baulders Gate 3 (august 3rd). Even the 30th has another competing release with World of Warcraft's Season of Discovery. The key to Battlebit's survival is to catch players off of those hype trains for big game releases.

Good vid FJC I fully get you, I had to stop making vids because its rare to get a full server on OCE, hopefully the next content drop is big enough to get some more players in

Aside from adding new stuff to the game, one thing that for me is really hard for devs to replicate is the general playstyle and flow games had during the first 2 weeks of launch. Part of the fun for me was all the goofyness in the game (comms, vehicle shenanigans, etc). But people naturally just got better at the game. No one really revives anymore, so then no one really waits to be revived. It's just way more optimal to go full rambo, die, repeat. And you can only really do that for so long till it gets incredibly boring

the one thing I really don't like about this game is the combination of very simple graphics with complex mechanics... I hate not knowing exactly how many bullets I have, I hate to bandage myself everytime I get hit, I hate that I can't use nightvision with scoped weapons and so on and so forth...

Seeing the gameplay in the background vs my experience with the game is so stark, his is more of a slower pace than in Asian servers where you can't walk 5 steps without getting one hit KO by some sniper 500m away in a bush or laser beamed by someone even if you shot first

I played for 3 days when I first got it, but put it down for a few months. I just picked it back up a few days ago and I’m enjoying every Bit of it.

It's literally impossible to find a 64v64 server, before then there were at least 3-4 servers to choose from.

I don't think the game will die completely, I think the population will stabilize and you'll get a small, but dedicated audience that keeps the game alive for years to come. Kinda like with Planetside 2: you had a unique game with a very rocky development cycle but the community absolutely refused to let it die. BBR is simply too good a game to just be a flash in the pan, and I think it will go that same route, especially with the FPS market being as bad as it currently is.

I don't think the majority of players really cared about the balance of the game. For me and all of my friends, we stopped playing because it was fun and we just moved onto the next thing or went back to where we came from. This is a trend that I think will become more and more common going forward as new games have to compete with old live service titles for attention. Helldivers is another game with a similar success story to battlebit. In a year I bet those players are going to leave and just go back to what they played before.

Even with a team, updates take a lot of time. My biggest pet peeve is people who think game design is done with a magic wand. Bringing on more people to a team is huge depending on how everything's coded. It's not as simple as "Oh just hire a map designer", that is assuming they have a map designer that doesn't require extensive backend coding. "Oh just hire a UI guy" again, you're assuming it's the wave of a wand to change the UI. It depends on how baked in it is. "They made $17 mil" that's a lot to us, but that's not a lot in 2023 especially if they had 80k people on their server and theyre marketing.

As someone that what just about to buy the game I found this video and it sadly changed my mind about buying

The thing everyone forgot is that theor server costs were well over 100k a month at launch... So they wanted to be able to keep there game up and not take on to much cost.

IDK this game still rocks and people seem stoked to play. If you know the game's dev history it is easy to understand that the game didn't flower into some AAA game. It won't receive massive updates, but I expect it to continue on its long iterative path.

i left this game around june or august for no particular reason, just started playing other stuff, but i have just came back and dont want to give up on this game. this game has such good bones and in its current state i dont think we should abandon it yet, there are still 10k ish people on everyday, which granted is so much lower than its peak, but for an indie game, with as good of bones as battlebit is insanely impressive. hopefully some large update will bring some of that player base back, personally i think most people left because at the end of the day battlebit is kinda samey after awhile, there is only so long you can run around and kill ppl yk. but hopefully some large update is around the corner that will shake everything up.

I mean honestly I'm pretty happy with where the game is at. Like you mentioned the biggest thing is an expansion of devs to allow more work to be done across the broad spectrum of things that NEED to be worked on throughout the game. Guns, Maps, UI, QoL changes, etc

I agree that, with that amount of revenue (supposedly), you definately could expand the team. What I strongly disagree with is the heavy criticism, that there was, as far as it seems, no expansion in the form of hires until this point. Hiring takes time, is depending on the amount of people looking for a new job, and even after starting out you generally need some time for onboarding. Add the fact, that they are currently only three people and have no dedicated HR. These points (and others) should be taken into account.

i agree. i wonder how you feel after the new update today? also what scope is this?

I just bought this game yesterday and had a blast. I have struggled to like any pc game since coming from console. This game gave me that arcadey bf4 mechanics and progression system that makes me actually want to play and isn't a weak cosmetic grind that the MW series has become. I love the pacing and hey, it makes me a better mnk player because it makes it easy learning spatial awareness with my fingertips lmao

The fact that the playerbase was at its peak during the playtests tells me that such a young game "dying" is due to the pricing switch. It's very unfortunate but the paid model does not seem to work for this game.

Didn't play this game in July 2023 and came back again 3 weeks ago. I was really surprised when I saw only 2 servers in Australia are active right now, I remember back in July there were plenty of active servers that you could choose to play. The majority of people left this game already, and all the points that you stated in this video are 100% correct. even the Kriss Vector. Before it was nerfed, all the noobs can be suddenly pro just because of that SMG. I am not good at shooting AR or SMG, I am a hardcore sniper. but I got myself to the top 5 in 1 match just because of that SMG lol. I really hope this game will not die, this is the only game where I can feel the sniper. The last time I felt this moment was when I was playing Battlefield 4, where I can support my team by shooting at the assault rifle, SMG, and Support soldier, not just shooting at the other snipers across the map lol.

Just because a game makes money, does not make it not an indie title. Flappy Bird didn't become a AAA title overnight. That said, yeah they should have probably hired another guy or two. But TBH, cashing out isn't that bad for them either lol

This everything is "dying" trend needs to die imo. BattleBit Remastered is a huge success, and like you said the numbers they had for that small dev team and being indie game was insane, because the numbers they have to day still are amazing and 99th+ percentile for 3 dev games I reckon. That said the rest of the video is probably on point and there are reasons they can't retain that big player base and content creators. Hopefully some changes will be made to buck the trend, balance will happen faster and what not. edit: And getting revenue has nothing to do with a title being indie or not really. That doesn't automatically give them the experience needed to handle a now huge project or make them have a backing of a big publisher with recourses that can help them out with everything from hiring to planning to server expansion and all the things they did not do before from their bedroom laptops.

I love this game and watch you all the time! I really don't want the game to die :(

I actually only just baught it, i really like it and until now i didnt realise its dead. Its really hard to find comtent for it tho

I just started playing and loving it to bits. I can pretty much always find full 127 v 127 in the community servers, so it isnt dead by any means. I think it was just overly successful at its launch, so even if the numbers seem low when comparing the game to launch, it is far from dead and alot of people still love this game, so to anyone reading this, dont let this video deter you from getting the game. Its cheap, runs on a potato, still has plenty of players to find full servers and is a very fun and addicting game :)

My biggest frustration was that there was all this content that they promised right after launch, all this hype and success. And after they hit it big, they just fucked off and focused on community servers and the monetization of said servers, instead of bulking out content, balance changes, etc. As a support player, being locked to 4 guns while the other classes had dozens felt horrible. Even now, only having 3 LSWs and 2 LMGs is rough as fuck. What gun am I gonna use today? RPK16 or the U100? Real challenging question, while every other class has gotten multiple new weapons in the time it took support to get 1.

Gamers in general are mostly "migratory". This game was peaking just before the typical AAA seasonal releases as well as students heading back go school. I personally still enjoy it and I've had no issues finding matches. But the tough part with almost all early access games is that there's a point where you begin to wonder when (major additional content) and a full release will appear? I love what the devs have done with this game, but the game itself is still an "early access game" that's being binged like a full release. It's only natural for players to migrate to the next thing. Whenever the devs decide to do a full release, I hope to see new maps, vehicles, weapons, etc. and of course I'll be right back on to support it. Just my $0.02.

"muh only 3 devs!!!" i knew people would eat these words when they choose NOT to expand their dev team kekeleleleloloolool

My 10 years old pc have problems loading into matches than it plays normal but 70% of times my game crashes or i load in when the match is almost about to finish😂

They really need to fix the servers honestly. Every time I log on there’s a 50/50 chance battlebit is unplayable bc of all the servers being full or most of them being empty. Really frustrating for me bc the game is literally unplayable. Also I noticed servers crash a lot too and sometimes they’ll random kick over 100+ ppl when they lag. I wouldn’t be complaining about these issues, but they literally make the game unplayable.

I wanted to get this game a while ago but my computer was not capable now that I have a pc that can run it idk if there’s a enough players to play it

I stopped playing because of the vector, for now I'm playing another game but maybe when I have time I'll come back to BattleBit to see if they improved the balance

But wasn't it the case that they only would receive the money made like 6 months later or so? I remember hearing something like that and that being the reason they didn't immediately expand their team. Still, if that was the case, they could've expanded these past months, so I'm not trying to argue against what you're saying, but I think it's important to note.

Unless something big comes from the devs, I think the playerbase will stabilize at a couple thousand, consisting of the very loyal players. It's the same with other FPS games like Titanfall 2, Planetside 2, etc. Small, but loyal playerbase. I played during the free weekend, and I had pretty fun, but I felt like it needed more improvements and tweaking in general. Some balancing, UI improvements, etc. But it was fun! The game has some real potential, the player previous player numbers show that I think, the devs just need to find a way to catch that spark and keep it alive, and eventually make a flame out of it.

anyone thinks there should be player collision? I noticed a lot of smg users would jump through your body and hip fire you from behind.

They should put this game on console , it’ll make super bank for sure

You have to remember that just because the made a huge profit, doesn't necessary mean that new developers can pop up in their studio like some RTS game. Everything takes time. A bunch of new games released as well. People treated this game like a small time sink until the next AAA came along. I can also tell you that most gamers are very shallow, they won't be caught dead player a "lesser" title like Battlebit. Even Battlefield 2042 has more numbers right now. Bigger youtubers and streamers have been support 2042 for so long, even after all the BS. BBR devs are amazing, they've implemented so many fixes and features in the small amount of time they are still developing, even more so than AAA titles. Everygame has issues and metas. The main problem the game has is that, the movement is far to arcady for the warfare style game. So when you have chokepoints, you have that crazy rambo that flanks and takes of the whole corridor of players. If you play something like battlefield 2, 3, 4 ,V ,1 or even Planetside, that hardly flies. and it's a slow tug of war.

I bought this game 5 days ago and it is really fun, I don't see myself to stop playing it anytime soon😊

I wonder how much of that August drop is because of BG3. I know that's why I dropped it and then honestly forgot this game existed until just now.

Its genuinely a shame, like this game is the most fun I have had in an fps in a long while. Sad to see it falling out of the public eye so soon.

I must admit on Saturday I joined 3 servers mid-day and they were empty and waiting for players. I think the EU servers are just meh and dead anyway. But the American servers are a fuckin blast to play on. At this point I think the 3 Devs have done a lot and I totally am on the opinion that the game is in the exact right place that the devs should start working on the experimental game mods, making new maps and just doing more.

10k players on steam, titanfall has been operating on 2k players for years and ques take no more than a minute or two, game is no where near dead and it won't be for at least a few years

bought this game last month and I'm having a blast. Had to get used to the quick time to kill and the sniping is fun. Still gonna play this game, for the price its definetly worth it.

I'm not worried - if what the recent patches has shown is that the game, atleast for me, is changing consistently and adding new stuff that keeps my interest. I will stay faithful to it for a while longer.

I love the game, and I’m currently grinding to prestige 5 so i can unlock every camo on every gun, but i do agree that they’ve really dropped the ball here. They need to make some changes ASAP or the game is done. I’m probably gonna stay on the grind unless the game just completely dies, but the magic just isn’t there anymore tbh. It’s more just the satisfaction of seeing the unlock pop ups that keeps me playing at all anymore.

i miss those old good maps, also looking forward workshop come out

Why hire more devs and increase dev costs by tens (if not hundreds) of thousands per year when the game has already made them multi-millionaires? Can’t blame them for wanting to keep the profit for themselves. Should they have promised updates they can’t deliver on properly? No. But ultimately it’s an Indy game, there was no plan for a company and big support structure around this game and people should have expected that. They played their cards extremely well to make as much money as possible through the game taking advantage of all the free attention creators and the media were giving them. It’s a masterclass in release timing and how to make tons money as an Indy dev, and a formula I’m sure many will try to copy going forward.

SMG/PDW weapons are like a giant stop sign for enjoying this game IMO. They are way too fast paced while every action such as healing and reviving people are way too slow. Should just lean into the arcade aspect, give us the defib speed of BF3 for ressing people, a longer charge=more health. Such a weird state this game is in with the half milsim aspect and half arcade FPS bonanza

I really enjoy the game its a big learning curve for me but I still love the game and dont think its dying really

I think they should add a lot more mod support so we can make it what we want either Milsim of zombies or whatever you want. But I also wish they add ww2 modes because I think I’d be fun to play d day on battle bit

The major decline coincides with Sgtokidoki getting all butthurt over getting domed by a sniper them nerfing them out of existence. What does that say you might ask? Well, that says; "we hate new players, instead of getting to know a games' mechanics and playstyle by trying the classes we will forcibly point you in the direction WE want YOU to play!"

If they were able to make it cross platforms somehow then it would probably revive the game

Damn, this shit aged like milk in the fucking sun 😂

I just started playing a few days ago and got some of my friends on. Maybe we should all do the same and start playing this game religiously so it can have a healthy community

Indie game is no longer an indie because many people play it? That's not how it works. Among Us, Undertale, Lethal Company, and even Pizza Tower (though I can only find two official names, it appears other people worked on it) were made by tiny teams (some by less than three people), and all of them blew up with hundreds of thousands of players... Are they AAA games now?. Popularity does not determine who's indie, and if they want to keep working as a small team they have the full rights to do so.

“Battlebit is dying” Game still gets 11k players every day

was just fixing to pick this up on autumn sale. guess not.

thank you for this video, community feedback is crucial especially in such a dire time for the game

Expanding a dev team is much more difficult than you make it out to be. The games play numbers are decreasing because there are many games now to play online and probably not because one gun beamed people from across the map.

hi, I'm a BF4 rush hardcore enjoyer. I have played BB in beta and launch... I quitted then came back at it 3 days ago... been playing 10 hours of it since then. I think BB is a masterpiece, it is quite a fun game aside cheater

So sad, after all this game game me back some "childhood memories" from the fact that I didnt have to sweat in video games anymore to have fun. It felt so refreshing to me. Since I mostly work as a cross country contractor nowadays I do not have time to play competetive games as I did in my early to late teens (cs, valorant, r6 etc.) I feel like the game deserves more attention and some sort of a plan of where the devs want to go with it. As for now - it just feels like a massive chaos. I hopped on the game today after a month or two, I just couldnt believe it, the UI feels like a mess. The camos arent so simple as they were. For me it just feels like they dont know what to do with the game anymore, sad. I really like BattleBit, I do not want the game to die. Its such a good game for casual players.

Damn near every time I hop on battlebit I still have a blast but I just haven’t had that draw to play like I used to and that’s sad. The Dev’s have just been consistently turning me off with most of their decision making, way too much focus on little things and stuff nobody really asked for, they seem tone deaf. I understand that say Vilaskis is only really doing maps so his work on updating maps and stuff doesn’t really correlate with what the other 2 are doing but the optics don’t look good when most of the updates are just fumbling around constantly changing maps when nothing else of substance occurs

when you suddenly have ~ 6mil in your pocket, it seems updating game is not so important anymore

great vid fj ❤️

I played a recent free weekend, it was extremely fun. It’s honestly not that fun of a game to watch but it’s a completely different story when you actually play it. As a new comer, I think there were def some bugs that made it feel not that great, and It didn’t feel good.

i think its harder to keep a game that looks like battlebit alive. some games you come back to because they look good. battlebits artsyle doesnt fit that description aswell as the fact it makes all the maps feel the same. that samey feeling makes it boring much more quickly

It is worth its price, ive got much more than i expected. If that means devs got milions I am ok with that. It is not crowdfunding now, they have earned that.

I think the vector point is on point. Of all the times I've left battlebit for a while, most of them are from poor balance. The vector itself never really anoyyed me because I just used it. But the fucking littlebird. They should just remove the thing from the game. 1 person on a full server is having a good time on it, everyone else fucking hates it. There is no real conterplay. I wouldn't be surprised if the player count steadily went up after they removed the littlebird. then the maps. they have redone the voting system alot of times because its a main sticking point, its a main sticking point because some of the maps just suck. wakistan sniper voters... then there are the vehicles in general. they are so squishy which I like, that they just camp their spawn and become turrets, tone down their god damn accuracy to make it less viable to camp with the things. the no counterplay to a tank camping their spawn is the problem rpgs are also too destructive. they do damage behind walls they destroy making them the best weapon to use in inter building fights. less wall damage and less damage behind wall would mean that the buildings and cover last for more than 5 seconds because of the rpg spam. Rpgs should be only really useful for vehicles. less of them becasue of less usefulness means vehicles are stronger by side affect and would camp less too. then there is the general defending is uselss thing as well. its just swarm tactics. give each zone a slowly increasing point drain with a cap to the enemy teams score. Give people a reason to keep a point. And maybe a secondary spawn point with 3 or so spawns that appears when a cap is being capped to stop the 1 person backcapping stuff. which would encourage squad stuff.

i saw it on wintersale steam for about 8 bucks, came here to see if the game survived, i guess not, so not even worth the 8 bucks, thanks for this review

“The game every fps player needs” I fucking love this and couldn’t agree more

Hella sad to hear, i thought this game was doing hella well! Only reason i stopped playing is because I had work and family taking up alot of my time! I hope they make a comeback. This game shouldnt die like this! This is a well made game! Leagues better than the current Cod and Battlefield imho.

I still play it casually I believe even if its a small community battlebit will still thrive in my oponion plus i got a shitty gaming laptop lol

How much of the 18m went to repayments I wonder. I imagine the devil are taking a moment to breathe.

shoulda dded proper controller support to pull in the console boyz. No aim assist, no cheese, just map the controller properly. Been the main difficulty in trying to get my console friends to play. Doesn't hurt the M&K players if they leave out aim assist like BF4 pc

Bro I JUST UNLOCKED THE P90... so upset and finally getting lots of kills/play per match

What im bothered about battlebit is the op weapons you get at rank 0. Like the ump or the m1a1. Theese weapons are too strong to be at rank 0 in my opinion. especially the ump 45. they should put them in a higher rank. What's the point of ranking up if you already have beast weapons without playing a single game.. And im tired that every second people who kills me has a ump 45. It has too much damage. It basically use a pistol round. A quite strong round, but 35 dmg is still too much. with 35 damage the gun's projectiles ignores the player's armor in the game. In reality the 45 acp round is so bad at armor penetration they even sell it for civillians... It can't even penetrate a very basic kevlar west. They should decrease the damage to 30-31 and increase dmg drop at around 65-70m. It's an smg not an ar. The other things i miss is the p90 for medic, and building close to a capture point. Now i can't even put down a damn sandbag to fortify the points and make some cover for my team. It's not like it's unbreakable or something. With c4 you can wipe out everyone in a cap no matter how fortified it is.

I think they really messed progression up. When I started got to level 71 and was burnt out. Hopped on a week or two ago and I’m level 113 now. Definitely a huge change in progression that’s making it fun to play again.

id say the reason im not playing the game is due to it moving as fast a cod. If speed was more like battlefield bad company 2 then I'd play it more often. Plus, smgs are op.

3 guys made a game and earned at least 6 million each. Let them chill and enjoy their lives.

It's no dead at ALL

Sounds like they made their cash and booked it, oh well onto the next game where money WIL NOT corrupt the devs... one day

Let the small dev team take their time

Why play this instead of BF4? Honest question, I wanted to try this but why?! maybe I shouldve asked it back then cause now its dead

I mean when you suddenly acquire tens of millions of dollars after basically developing a game on a loss for years I don't blame them for bailing. I would probably do the same. It's easy to think "Why keep working on a game you've spent your life on when you've already made bank". The game seems small and insignificant in comparison to their newfound riches, they're probably just enjoying life. Of course it won't last, and investing in the source of their income is ultimately the smart choice, being blinded is more common than seeing that simple fact.

why's there still so much lean-spamming. I thought the devs patched that out by now

I want to buy batllebit remastered but i have a potato pc Can i still play 🤨

Is it dying to the point whereby it’s not worth playing?

Ultimately the devs can do whatever they want, it’s their business. They don’t owe us anything. Cool that they made a lot of money and it sucks that they didn’t want to use that to expand their team. They have a good track record for finding success with simple ideas/solutions so why increase dev complexity by adding another team member? You’re also assuming what you want is what they want.

its funny bc the playerbase has been relatively stagnant over the past 3 months. Also the dev team is small, and its hard to expand it. I mean jeez, just look at Valheim for example. Those devs made out like bandits and content still comes at a snails pace.