As always, appreciate the feedback on the content gang! Continuing to try new things and implement a bit more "personality" into the content, so very keen to hear your thoughts!

What I don't understand is why the devs don't simply follow in the footsteps of war thunder and have both an arcade mode and tactical mode. Separate options, with the more mil-sim mode having these newer tweaks and arcade playing into that image of what battlebit has become in the eyes of the public. (Edit) Got to the end of the video and realized you brought it up.

Wall of text coming. But I've paraphrased the recent Devcast on the top, so if interested, read the first paragraph! The Devcast from 3 week ago was really where Oki and team opened up about what they want to change about the game, how they feel about the game etc. Its yet to be uploaded afaik, which sucks because they went over SO much changes, but I'll try to paraphrase some of them here: - They feel like there is no importance/purpose to killing enemies. Its obviously the main focus of the game, but.. you don't kill enemies to take an objective, the gameplay generally revolves around: Spawning, Flanking, Killing a bunch of enemies, Get killed, Respawn, and just repeat it all over. Pushing objectives is just something you do at the end of a flank, and not WHY you flank. - Milsim mechanics can just be ignored due to arcade mechanics being more convenient and quick.(example, why wait for an ammo drop if you can just die and respawn with full ammo, you're so fast that running back would still be quicker than finding a support, or waiting for an ammo drop) - No matter what gamemode and objectives they insert into the game, it won't change HOW people play the game, and they feel exasperated at that. In my opinion, the most important of all, its something Oki said in a channel on discord: "One of most wishes I had was, make arcade players enjoy milsim to some extend. I used to be an arcade player, when I was introduced to milsim, I was blown up and it was so unique to me. I wanted BattleBit to be the gap between extreme milsim and the arcade, where they can taste this as well. Yet I lost this game to arcade playerbase currently. Anything that is bit more immersive is a backlash, anything that remotely slows the game is a backlash." he's talking about how he wanted to bridge the gap between "hardcore" milsim games like Squad and Arma, and arcade shooters. People talk as if Oki is/was slowly trying to turn everyone into hardcore milsim players, or turn the game into a milsim game while that was never what he was trying to do. He was trying to make a game that could introduce arcade players to milsim elements, while still having arcade mechanics too. There was always going to be a hardcore/milsim mode. Arcade people think that Oki is trying to turn the main game into that... it was never going to be like it, but still they act as if he is worse than Satan and wants to destroy the game by turning the base game into a hardcore milsim. But due to the near childish outrage, personal attacks and harrassement, they feel forced to continue making changes that takes the game further and further away from any meaningful milsim mechanics. Taking a look at how little open people are to the new sound system, its apparent. Yes, it sucked total ass, and it currently (as of the making of this comment) is ass, but as a system, its not bad. It just required TONS more testing, but somehow Oki decided to push it out early due to some imaginary deadline of "Christmas Period Release". ALL changes except for: - Lean Spam Removal - The new sounds system Have ALL been making the game more and more arcade. ALL changes, 100%. Outside of those 2 exceptions, not a SINGLE change has been made to bridge the gap between milsim and arcade shooters in any way. Not a single one. Due to riding on the positive feedback from the insane launch, and then continuing to appease that playerbase, to now receiving tons of hate and harrasement and seeing a drop in playerbase whenever they make a change/too little testing etc, they've really put themselves in a hard position. Concretely, some random examples of changes that has made milsim mechanics redundant/ made the game more arcadey: - Bandage heals - Bandage number increase - Scope glint changes - Sniper Vapor trail While I get a lot of arcade players are upset, dissapointed and dont really have confidence in some of the dev team after the changes we've seen lately... It's probably due to how much I've been on the subreddit and discord, but I am absolutely appaled at the behaviour of mainly the arcade playerbase who don't care about having objective play, good gameplay for the majority etc, but only prioritize their own fun. I really wish people would be more open minded and give stuff a chance, instead of metaphorically flinging their shit and crying for "REVERT!!1!" at the seemingly smallest change they don't like. Seeing the amount of backlash on the whole "inertia" debuckle, and how people acted like it was the end of the world when Oki suggested making "180 midair turning" less effective.. I just.. could not. I don't want the base game to be a hardcore milsim. But on the scale of "Milsim to Arcade shooter" the game should be somewhere between BF and say... Insurgency Sandstorm/Squad/Hell Let Loose, the game is even more arcadey then BF... It's on the wrong side imo. In my humble opinion, I'd love to see Oki get another dev to keep the base mode as it is right now, or just slightly more meaningful milsim mechanics without hampering the current feel of the game. While Oki just starts dedicating his time to the milsim mode, or even a new, the "Bridge between arcade and milsim" game he envisioned. Sorry for the wall of post, and while I dont really have anything against discussing this, I just feel like the community, both people wanting more milsim, and the arcade players who's brains have flatlined, have handled this whole thing super bad. Peace. Also, you rock, Camikaze.

I think Battlebit should introduce Milsim-iness not as a core feature / change to the whole game, but as a separate game mode (/ separate game?) that one can choose in the main menu and switch to. This way, people can keep teh BattleBit they know right now, but players who would enjoy the additional realism aren't left out either.

I'm a fan of where Battlebit Remastered was at when it launched: a hybrid milsim/arcade shooter. I'm not big on pure milsim games because I find them too slow/punishing for my tastes, but I've grown tired of arcade-style shooters because they've saturated the market for so long. Battlebit provides a nice middle ground: a somewhat arcadey shooter that uses milsim-like mechanics to slow down the gameplay and add some flavor to what frankly might be an otherwise bland game if it was purely an arcade shooter. Maintaining that balancing act between arcade and milsim shooter is where I feel Battlebit should try to stay, rather than branching the game off into an arcade mode and a milsim mode. I wouldn't mind a more tactical/milsim heavy mode for the game, but I don't think that the creation of one should result in the base game becoming too arcadey.

Edit: My main point (I didn't make it very clear) is slowing down the game a little, isn't making it a Milsim. If anything, it puts it in line with older battlefield titles I can’t really blame them In terms of how speedy the movement is. That’s basically most shooters nowadays, and it makes battlebit look less unique. That said. I’m pretty sure they said they would add a separate milsim mode. Honestly, I don’t see the issue with the possibility of maybe decreasing players overall speed, because the one thing I KNOW annoys people, is shooting at someone point blank, and they start throwing their mouse around like they’ve put their sensitivity to max and then they kill the guy or run away. I’m guilty of doing it myself in a panic, but I know it isn’t any fun to deal with. Not to mention, by lowering the speed a bit, it’ll probably feel *more* like battlefield. I think people forget that they really didn’t let you be a speed demon in 2, 3, 4 and 1 *also man please devs gimme the option of PiP, it looks cool damn it reeeee*

>design milsim elements like bandaging, healing, building, destruction >accelerate gameplay, imbalance guns for race-to-the-bottom arcade pacing >zero milsim elements are used, only exploited but now it's suffering an identity crisis? this was week 3 mate

I hate the way that Battlebit has become a run and gun shooter. Haven't played in two months because it just wasn't fun for me at all anymore, and it's too bad. I understand the feeling of separation because from the first week it's become very different mechanically. More milsim aspects would make me actually interested in the game again, but I'm not sure I see that happening anytime soon.

I love the way the game is now. It’s what makes Battlebit, Battlebit. Oki making the changes we all think he’s planning on doing will kill the game. I always see the same guys playing almost everyday over on BBOCE, doing what they do because I know they enjoy the games mechanics and how it’s currently played. There’s been multiple discussions across multiple discords basically begging Oki to not change the game to a milsim. With that being said, add a milsim mode. Leave the fast paced, arcade-y game how it is, there are diehard fans who would kill to keep it the way it is.

The ever present question of "are we making the game we want ?" or "are we making the game that will reach the broadest audience ?". It's hard to answer. But I certainly hope the devs will find an answer that makes them happy.

I believe this from back when I first played that the movement meta was something the devs never envisoned. They wanted the leaning and prone from milsim, only for the animations and lack of adverse aiming to have these have more effect in CQB than its intended context. From a dev standpoint, I feel this can leave you in no mans land in terms of direction and community. That said, when the pop went down and mostly veterans cheesing the lean/prone/vault were left, I lost interest in the game. Imo that is not Battlefield movement, it is COD, and I am not interested in that anymore.

well personally im waiting for the "milsim" or hardcore mode that they prommised befor EA went live, i personally love 1 shot headshots and a more tactical game approach way more, since my main game (squad) has died bcs they completely changed their gameplay mechanics i was hoping to find what i lost here in BBR but. dont get me wrong i like the base gamemode that is offerd right now but i havent actually played the game for a couple of months bcs for me its become stale and to casual. i think what they should do is keep this gameplay mide for what it is and just develop the hardcore "milsim" mode and make it a seperate list/quque inside of the game.

Keep it simple, more modes means more balancing, means splitting the player base, means someone will always be unhappy. Either take it back to it roots, lose the arcade player base but be happy or embrace what it has become and lean into it.

I'm only 8 mins in currently but I do want to say that if people continue to press, right or wrong, for the developers to go down a path they don't want they're eventually going to run out of passion for the project.

that being said, they realy should slow down the naked medics zooming around with mach 3. Or at least nerf the turning speed while doing so

For me something what I would really enjoy is adding second mode which milsim characteristic such as a player decrease by 50% reduced HUD (making checking ammo in magazines finally useful) and other.

I'm not a fan of the new audio changes. Sounds like I playing starwars with the and you here every single single sniper on the map. Directional audio seems to also be much worse

I just wish that they tone down the movement a bit. Seeing someone zig zag jump at mach 5 is so weird.

The movement and the dynamics is the best part of this game. I'm open to be proven it can be better in another way though.

I think if they fill out their team a bit more and getting to do that double dip into milsim territory would could effectively increase their reach well, but, as you said, they need be careful of not over-extending themselves. It's all about what's feasible and what's not, and with their team as is, I'd say they should pick at it if they have the time, but not to focus on it too heavily until they've got some backup on their team to help with the increased workload. If they can do that they'll have a very special game that's competent in two distinct, but very well loved sub-genres of FPSs. Kind of curious to see if they can pull it off.

Splitting the game into 2 wont fix the game. Spliting creates 2 different possible weapon metas, 2 different matchmaking pools, 2 mastly differing communities arguing what should and shouldnt be strong in 1 game mode or the other, perfect example being warzone. Battlebit needs to define itself somehow and fast.

You know what I kinda like about battlebit is that it keeps changing a little. Another thing to keep in mind is that the develops don't really owe us anything. Most of the players that don't play anymore bought it dirt cheap and got 30-100+ hours of good fun, those people have gotten their moneys worth.. the rest of us who like that shit keeps changing and evolving.

It's an Early Access game with devs that are still trying to figure out what kind of game they want it to be. Every time they talk about the future of MilSim mode, it's always a MODE. The arcadey game that people want to SPRINT and JUMP 24/7, LIKE YOU DO, isn't going anywhere. But if most the population moves to the MilSim mode, you'll have to accept that fate.

Personally the best moments in the game comes from the more tactical & mil-sim but still casual encounters, holding a stronghold or pushing slowly block by block. I guess the best approach would be to have more hardcore lobbies separately for people like me while keeping the medic run&gun lobbies for people who enjoy more direct gunfights.

All I want is for them to remove the sniper smoke trails, it completely killed the game for me because it removed what made sniping fun.

They ruined sniping for the sake of their vision. Now you're either playing really really slow long range sniping or you're going full arcade movement shooter blazing fast chaining headshots before you're noticed.

Ya know, I play several hours a day, and stay active on the Discord. But the only time I suspect Battle Bit is having any problems is when I watch it's content creators. I'm not suggesting you can't say anything negative about Battle Bit, but it's becoming obvious that's the kind of content that you all prefer.

We've seen too many great games turn their core gameplay around and it almost never works. I hope these devs see it. Even though this might not be exactly the game they were hoping to create, it has gained a lot of players and the community is already there.

The BattleBit dev team should've expanded already, even 3 or 4 more developers would help a ton. If Battlebit completely shifts to more milsim the game will die.

It's funny you bring this up now in this way as I personally feel a lot of the recent changes have pushed it more towards the arcady feel. The recent nerf to snipers in particular. I have to say this really put me off. I somewhat burnt out of battlebit on release after sinking a lot of time into the game and was just getting back into it before said nerfs. Unfortunately for me the sniper changes really killed my desire to revisit the game long term as my preferred playstyle of stealthy flank sniping is all but impossible with the inclusion of trails.

Just to keep things clear: your entire premise (that devs are making the game milsim) is based off of 1) a dev stream you haven’t watched but that a 3rd party told you about and 2) one change weeks ago which they rolled back. The game has never been as “arcadey” as you’re describing. I’ve played since launch and I’ve never thought of it as arcadey. I’ve always thought of it as a hybrid, arcadesim if you will. That uniqueness is what sets it apart.

I feel that the new update has put the game in a confusing place, with both milsim orientated squads and more causal gameplay focused squads. it clashes heavy with the games maps and how the game is played overall, milsim players are going to get destroyed by casual players because they are slower and more focused on the objective, whereas casual gamers are more focused on the kills.

I much prefer the battlebit arcade battlefield that we have now over a more battle sim. But it could slow down a bit, even up to 10% slower, so it feels more "decision based" and less "twitchy"

If they wanted to slow down the pacing of the game then why speed up the bandaging? Slower bandaging already discourages being too aggressive.

I personally love the notion of adding "milsim" aspects like, "hey getting shot is actually super jarring, maybe you should notice that more"

As an old fuck that still likes to game I cannot game with zoomers. Its just not fun for me as its way too fast paced. Give me a slow old dog mode.

I love the sound muffling. Better immersion. And I love the game. Been logging in multiple times a week since launch

I bought the game expecting a more milsim environment but was pretty disappointed with the community and the lack of meaningful communication between teammates. I'd love a milsim approach in the game.

Some of the players I interacted with said they came from Battlefront 2, they have bots there and that didnt take way from the enjoyment. That should at least help in map population. I come from a milsim background in gaming so I welcome the milsim mode as advertised before. Im content that battlebit is somewhat of a hybrid though in its current version. I literally play this game more than the other milsim games I played before. As it is the playerbase is dwindling despite it leaning in to the arcadey elements more. My opinion, Im still waiting for LAN, Singleplayer(offline) and Mods.. and maybe bots(which then can be modded). You cant please everybody, so let them please themselves. Modding always has the chance of saving games. I'm a broken record but I think the ARMA 3 model works just fine. You can see a lot of content even now whether it be with a huge number of people or with a small group of friends doing PvP, PvE or anything in between.

I fell in love with the game because it was a blend of the two genres: arcade and milsim. I hope they explore that territory further

I'm really excited for a more milsim approach to BBR, being a fan of a lot of milsim games myself, but big huge mega agree on them needing to at least keep the core experience familiar to what people currently "expect" out of it. Really hope they have the resources to continue work on both. Also this is the most sane, coherent take on BBR's current development path that I've seen in a minute lmao

I mean look at the graphic style, dont think anyone is jumping on for some realistic shooter. Make it arcadey to fill the gap that cod and battlefield have left

What the devs have learned from this (hopefully) or even we as the battlebit community is that a game gets played to the limits of what the game's design allows. For example: if the game allows lean spam(ik it's nerfed just an example), drop shots, air strafe, running extremely fast then people will abuse all that to its fullest extent despite it being 'unrealistic' or 'not the way the devs wanted it to be played'. That being said. It's still possible to play a bit more milsim style and do good despite the somewhat strangely fast pace of the game. I play both fast and slow depending on the mood. Heavy armor, m4 extended mag or ranger/light armor smg, both of these work, but are not equally as good. I feel like the devs can encourage variety by allowing the classes to have more loadouts for example you could have 3 loadouts for assault, one with heavy armor lots of utility and a extened mag gun and one with a smg that's fast etc. (Extended mag stats do need a rework). What is annoying also is how people purposefully go to meatgrinder areas and transport players even heli pilots drop people in the meatgrinder obj despite there being 5 objs left to capture that no one is defending. That type of stuff leads to burnout for me, cause in a meatgrinder match even being in the top 10 in a 256 player lobby feels barely rewarding. Playing with a squad, flanking the meatgrinder and capping objs would be more fun, but sometimes no one on your team wants to do that with you and none of the heli pilots want to support that playstyle.

I think the only way to make both side happy. It would have to be an more simulation game mode on the options. It will let the developers put more simulation stuff in the game without dividing the community.

I think making a whole separate gamemode just for the milsim is not the optimal choice It just splits up the playerbase and screws with balance. War thunder was able to pull it off because its only competition was wargaming's world of series where vehicles have health and camo makes your vehicles straight up turn invisible whereas you just need to change a few letters in battlebit's name to find its competition

the devs from eft never wanted to make eft in its current form. it was envisioned as a means to an end. to make money, so they can make their "true" vision come true in form of a different second game. to put it simply: if the devs of battlebit remastered think they are already there (required funds), a second seperate game would be the most reasonable direction. selling a mil sim to shooter fans has at best a 5% conversion rate. if they redirect the game as is, it will earn as most favorable outcome: 95% spite.

Ive always been skeptical of "listening to your player base". A lot of the time, people think they want something new, something different when what they really want, is a game mechanic from another game that seriously alters the current gameplay. This leads to an identity changed from what the game developers really wanted and thus, disappointed in what they wanted and what they have.

Have a chill game? Is that even possible if u arent running around like a poisoned rat? U basically get hunted down if you dont move 25meters every 2 seconds

As long there is no wind which is affecting a rpg (The right way!!), the need to have to apply a tourniquet and packing some "holes" with QuikClot or having "icons" in my sight everywhere I would not say it is a MilSim. However I agree that Battlebit is Battlebit and I agree that it should be itself.

While I don't particulary hate new audio system as a whole (apart from some guns sounding kind of worse than before, or just straight up muffled) I really really dislike those "laser gun" sounds you can hear while bullets fly near you. It's just off-putting to hear those idk why.

Honestly I'd love both. Sometimes I'm in the mood for Battlefield, sometimes I'm in the mood for Squad. I like battlebit as a good middle ground. I welcome some more hardcore mechanics, as long as it doesn't go full milsim where I run for 20 minutes then get domed by some guy a kilometer away.

Oki and the team can do it, they just need to think of hardcore like battlebit+. Adding easy to balance mechanics like audio tweaks and gameplay tweaks while not changing health or gun stats will mean that they only need to balance 1 version of the game.

They better not ruin this game it's one of the best games that's been released for a while

To be fair I'm not one for mil sim due to the fast TTK but I do like where 2019 PS2 was at with not slow but not fast gameplay but more medium speed. I struggle to find a replacement for that nich. As most games seam to go full arcade shooter, or mil sim with slow pace gameplay with burst of intense action.

I personally have been loving the way the developers have been taking to this game. My one gripe on the recent changes would be the muffling of sound when you're down. Being concussed when bullets are flying near you is a GREAT addition in my eyes because it slows the pace down, it makes people think twice if they should run out of cover or not. This bullet suppression has also helped me personally with my biggest gripe the game has and that's the snipers. The recon class has become atrocious to deal with, in most game lobbies I've been the majority of the time I've been in has been hit with the m110, m200, mk20, L96, etc. With at least some situations now i can have myself or my support teammates suppress those pesky snipers. The new sounds and bullets trails have also improved some of that as well because now i can at least save myself encase that sniper misses his first shot and i know now that i have an enemy recon pinning me down. This may be copium or a genuine take but I feel i would have a LOT more fun if they were to just simply remove the recon class all together and make a new one like a Breacher with shotguns. This way this new class can be a priority roll of carrying explosives, being better at close combat situations but not mid or far ranges, possibly adding a new armor type like flak armor where it makes it easier for the breacher class to survive explosives like anti-personal mines or RPG fragmentation. At the end of the day I've enjoyed these newest updates, its brought back more of that casual gameplay, before them i was running into tons and tons of sweaty competitive players and my game time was ruined and I would ultimately changes games after 2/3 matches where I'm just stomped into the ground. I want a more milsim experience, i want something thats more like Squad or Arma but has the replay-ability like Battlefield. I work long shifts and the last thing i want to do is get on this game and be completely swarmed by the likes of the CatEat Clan or have a spawn-die simulator from snipers, and too be frank because of what i previously mentioned its made me burn out from the game and leave it for a while. I wish the best for this game and i hope to come back to it with a better light.

Sounds like the dev team had poor direction in the first place. It'd be a predatory practice to change the game after however many tens of thousands of people bought it with one gameplay style in mind.

I would play this game if there was any sort of situational awareness. The sound is still dreadful, and you have no means of easily recognising where enemies are. It is more beneficial to just run around like an idiot than actually follow the flow of battle. Once they actually sort that out I would consider this on a level with something like Planetside

I think they can easily keep the same modes and just add a 6v6 arcade/search and destroy mode. It will really round out the game allowing you to play from 128 people lobbies to 12

it's always had an identity crisis, lmao. "muh three devs" who didnt hire any help to fill their new office space. lmao lmfao lol

When battlebit released it's newest update I took a major break

"we are disappointed on how arcady our game has gotten" "we will add insane sniper trail" yea... devs are nothing more than a bad joke. they killed this game for good. 2500 players peak says it all.

This makes me think that the best would be to split both approaches into two different games, but then again, this is a 3 man operation, I can only think scaling this and hiring people and all that jazz would only drive both projects to their downfall in order to become profitable

I'm surprised to hear your description of what was on offer at release as a casual arcade shooter. I thought it was clearly described as a middle ground between arcade and milsim. That's why I bought it and that's why I've been dissapointed in how arcadey it's become, or at least how arcadey the meta has become. I don't need it to be Squad but I'd love it to slow down it's pace a bit.

I think they're in a tough spot - the player numbers are way down from release, and they're trying to think of ways to get people playing more. But if it turns into a milsim I probably wouldn't be that interested in it. It might get an influx of players for a bit (heh) but their main issue is player retention. I think BF2042 also stole back a lot of the people who were initially hyped for BBR, especially with those previews of the game basically bashing 2042. But by the time they got the game into early access 2042 had clawed back a lot of players, and the player numbers have only dropped since then.

I think the game is better as an arcade shooter with some milsim mechanics that promote teamwork. Games like Squad are terrible because of how close to milsim they are... Realism != fun. That's why we play videogames in the first place :). I personally love the speed the game plays at. It feels like you can play really slow and methodical, or ramp it up to 11. The velocity you can build up while moving makes this an incredibly addicting game with a good learning curve, IMO. Let's just have separate game modes, or let people customize the experience up the wazoo in Community Servers.

It would to be 5v5, 6v6 max 8v8 mode to be a tactical shooter. There is no way 127 ppl can make a plan and comunicate to win the match. But thats why I love this game. Fun, chill, arcade game ❤

I don't know, I loved this game, my entire Arma group moved over for about 200 hours in the first 30 days most of us... but every change has just made the game less apealing to us. The last straw for a lot was the self healing buff, an attempt to fix the medic meta by making everybody stupidly healthy was terrible, the game's pacing was OK in the first weeks while people were learning the maps, but has only grown less fun and more boring and samey since... And onboarding new players? Its a 'fun and chill time' for those of us with a decent ammount of game and map knowledge... the metrics show exactly how much fun new players are having playing against the remaining playerbase. Reminds me a lot of PS2, so I'm not surprised you love how it plays now, but I think it is going to have just as much trouble holding a fanbase as planetside, and it doesn't even have the MMOshooter lure... They can see where the winds are blowing already, and think they are better off changing direction and trying to become lowpoly squad rather than fizzling and dying in the ever fickle tides of twitchy arcade shooters.

I think they should just work on bringing it to consoles/steam deck so i can play with more of my friends. Having said that, lowering movement speed would not impact my experience at all

The peeps over in the official BB discord throw a fit if they see any changes happening. Also wow I didn't know Karmakut did a video on BB back in its Squad-like days.

i would love to have big maps and bigger assets but i feel ya if u think it would throw ppl off...

I think they should have both, a casual and a hardcore mode. In battlefield i enjoyed the ability to join hardcore servers from time to time.

Honestly I actually wanted Battle bit to be SLIIIIIIGHtly more arcad-ey I.e. not having to worry about bleedout... admittedly I think the games move speed could be slowed down slightly maybey like 5-10% for run speed

My opinion so far is to let the devs do what they want. People complain about the game, and yet they still play because they know it's better than a lot of options. I know that even if the devs switch over to more milsim play, I'll still stick with Battlebit because guess what, that still sounds fun. Besides, the one thing I hear people complain about the most is the speed of the game being a little ridiculous.

I would be happy if we got a separate game-mode, but your concerns are very valid.

Being a big fan of the MW19 gameplay... the lack of audio when hurt is one of THE MOST infuriating gameplay decisions that game did. Dramatically kills the pace (and not in a good way), and make people who haven't been hurt but bum rushing such a pain.

The last update feels like it wholly embraced the arcade-style gaming. Getting sniped by MP5s and LMGs at distance is always fun. Not my style at all and that's unfortunate as I enjoyed BBR before this latest update. Back to Squad/Insurgency...

I loved the simple camos back then now its a little annoying.

"Battlebit is facing an identity crisis right now" says the ginger man wearing a sleeveless shirt. What bothers me about Battlebit is it wants to be yet another god damn "tactical" mil-sim type game, because the pre-existing literal dozens of them aren't enough, but with Battlefield going down the shitter there's not a single legitimate competitor to what Battlefield was. So just like WW3, people *really* want a Battlefield competitor, but then they turn it into some tactical milsim thing no one really has any interest in and then it dies. I'm all for making whatever you want, but it's kind of wild to be in that position where you just have to tweak your game a little bit to gain a massive audience and then just decide "Nah, no thanks."

It wouldn't surprise me if 'you made this happen' low-key bitterness was at work with medics not getting the p90 and the, uh, thoroughness of the recon balancing if those kinds of things are responses to the game being played in ways other than how they envisioned it. While I trust the devs' vision, trying too hard to nudge people toward behaviors, like how they play a game, is usually full of disappointment. The latter seems especially likely, given gamers' rebellious/spiteful streaks.

1:56 this low poly game is 10x better than the trash BF games we have gotten recently. It really reminds me of battlefield 4

no battlebit isn't going through a "identity crisis" Fucking Larry is going through a actually midlife identity crisis and taking his game with him {GREAT video though}

I'm a Halo player. This looks fun but I really struggle to spot enemy in this.

It not easy to develop and improve but with the feedback from players they can make changes. It hard to balance game play.

In this situation i think it would be better for the devs to just make another Battlebit game, basically grabbing the one we know now and modifying however they originally envisioned it, and then launch it as another game. Either that, or update the game how they want it to be and kill the game in the process for alienating their players lol

Dont they will release hardcore mode that supposed to be leaning more toward, mil sim like?

Called this problem since the closed early access weekends. Devs were too arrogant. I guess this is what happens when an ignorant community funds your patreon with 15k$ a month unconditionally, you just get to be arrogant. Evidently the fun is over for them.

they need to do 256 v 256 player game mode lezzzzgooo

why not just add the mil-sim mode? I don't see the point in losing the arcade playerbase (which is majority of the playerbase btw) just because they wanted to make it more mil-sim like

Battlebit is the best Battlefield game that's come out in years. If that changes, I'm gone.

Can’t agree more with everything you laid out here. 350 hours in BBR and I’ve more than gotten my moneys worth. But instead of leaning into what makes the game shine (movement, gunplay, chaos) they want to make a Mil sim? lol

You make a great point while also raising a feasible solution... take what's here with BB, and make a tactical sim as a separate game. Great both the markets. 👍

I feel like it's gotten too competitive to be casual. You can't do anything if you're rusty

Well that's exactly why the milsim mode is in development.

I am sad the audio changes are getting reverted

I was onboard for a slightly milsimish battlefield like game, I ended up with cod³.

everything is okay for now. devs saved muffle for milsim mode

The audio change was SO BAD. I hope they ditch it ASAP

Eu amo esse jogo

what's the difference between down sight sensitivity and down sight sensitivity X1, X2, X3 i don't understand. Does it mean by the aim mulitple?

Im not really sure what to think, I just know that the game in it's current state is damn fun