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Didn’t show us melee the charger to death 0/10

If we get fire resistant armor with the same 95% damage resistance as the electrical damage resistance armor, I think we'll see a massive surge of pyromaniacs who run nearly completely fire dedicated loadouts.

"Orbital Laser bad because too good." Oh, this is a meme video. You almost had me.

On stealth, I’ve found it best used not to sneak into the base, but to enact guerrilla warfare, slipping past patrols and launching quick hit-and-run raids.

Really refreshing to see a tier list that isn't just what's meta or not.

Counterpoint on the laser: My ship is called the Hammer of Dawn for a reason.

To me, stealth isn't about being unseen. It's about slipping in, causing an obj to violently disappear, and then getting the fuck out before enemy waves snowball.

Firebug build: Incen breaker. Incen grenade. Titan armor. Flamethrower. Napalm strike. Now watch the world burn.

“Orbital lasers can wipe entire bases and clear whole objectives therefore they are mildly effective” You what mate?! Lol

imagine doing a helldivers video and telling people to play warthunder, heresy

Have to say, comboing the stalwart with the supply pack and max rpm makes you feel like a democracy spreading god amongst men.

Sadly, the Gas Strike is bugged and isn't dealing damage properly. So it's in the "do not use until fixed" bin.

Try a "Democratic tank" strategy. Drop a turret on a tank, don't kill it, and now you have a mortar/autocanon that moves with your team

You’re telling me we’ve been loosing this war against those damn CLANKERS because some people believe they’re too good for an orbital laser?!?! (I use a P-6 because I wanna feel like a cowboy)

You also forgot my favourite cursed strat. If you bring an HMG turret and a jump pack you can land the HMG turret on top of a tank and then jump onto it to man the turret. I rode a tank for 5 minutes as my teammates and I steered it towards objectives, it was so much fun.

500kg - Orbital Laser - Anti Mat Rifle for bots, Flamethrower for bugs - Mandalorian jump jet backpack for bugs, Shield backpack for bots. Sneak through most of the game, complete almost all side objectives while your random ass team fights for their lives doing God knows what.

Stealth is fun when you dont have teammates ruin it

Stealth is useful but you can't expect to not have to go hot on the objective. It is more for patrols, sentry's, and outposts.

He doesn't know that you can stealth melee takedown enemies without alerting the guards. Or that gas strike can destroy buildings if placed right and has one of the fastest cooldowns of all orbitals.

13:00 if you dive you can actually put out the fire, so just do that (still stimming buys time)

"Machine gun sucks" immediately shows clip of missing the head on the nursing spewers (I know it's not the strongest support weapon, still feels good to spread democracy with)

Just my thoughts on stealth: I LOVE stealth games but most of them are pretty unrealistic. As far as doing complete stealth missions in helldivers without being discovered, I'm not disappointed that you can't fully do it. Realistically, in a base full of killer robots or hive full of bugs, something is going to see or hear you. It honestly frustrates me in games when something should be able to see/hear you but they don't.. and I think Helldivers does a great job. When I'm sprinting and I clearly see a bug patrol and one of them facing my way perks up for a sec when he spots me (rather than them somehow not being able to see me), it helps loads with immersion.

14:53 “Look Gary, there I am! There I am!” Awesome video lol ^^

Useful positioning strategy for sentries: put them on rocks. (Make sure you stand back when you throw them or they’ll bounce off) chargers can’t reach them and they have an increased visibility of the battlefield

Have to disagree with the gas strike. Anytime there’s a bug breach (even on helldive) I’ll toss a gas strike right where the smoke/indicator of where the bug breach is and I’ll usually get between 15-30 kills and sometimes 40+ and the most I got was 64. It kills all the smaller bugs as they’re spawning in and before they can get out of the gas (and this is without any EMS) and then I only have to deal with a few larger bugs and any stragglers. Plus the short cooldown means it’s almost always available for the next encounter/breach. I find it useless against the bots but that’s another discussion entirely.

Cursed synergy i found today was shield backpack + MG, whenever you need to reload, look away from the enemy lol

If you dive while on fire it puts the fire out

Skill issue

13:55 Turning Helldivers into a tower defense game.

The only S-tier synergy being a tower defense meta is interesting. Time to max out my ship module upgrades for this!

And then the Quasar came along and shook everything up

"where did my life go" "to war thunder" most real shit ive ever seen in a spoonsor segment

6:11 Meleeing bot is a great way to do a stealth take-down.

I love the gas strike, instantly blows up bot factories and melts stragglers.

Btw isn’t it “stratagems?”

imagine a future strategem being just calling down a tamed bile titan, that you can ride

a minute into the video and I can already see the martincitopants inspiration (this is good thing, very happy to see a helldivers video in this style :D)

syncing the drop pod landings with the track at 9:15 was a really nice touch. subscribed.

He's back! Your previous tier list was my guide starting the game. Keep up the great content!

Note about the turret strategy, normal mortar is fine on long missions, but Mortar on thin hordes or eliminate bot forces… it’s a friendly fire machine.

"The orbital laser is a crutch" My brother in Christ, they gave us the tools, we'd be insane not to use them

All 4 mech suits. While everyone was playing helldivers 2, me and the boys were playing titanfall 2 homeland defense.

From my experience, the gas is best used to weaken or kill Medium and small enemies that try to push your position making them easy to clean up. This allows you to focus your attention on large targets. I’ve never used it with ems, and I usually get 5 to 20 kills per strike. It’s a defensive strategiem yet most people try to force it into an offensive role then.

Relating to stealth, a video i saw on trying to stealth through a helldive said that there is always a patrol that knows exactly where you are

So cool to see you using the space tv thing. LOL

gas strike is good for stealth builds basically, because the mooks that call reinforcements actually get flinched by it and they'll die before it clears out. so you throw it on an objective, wait it out while sniping enemies that walk out of it's radious, and when it dissipates, you blitz in and quickly take out the softened survivors. and since it's cooldown is very short, it's also a crutch for normal fights that you'll have back by the time the fight ends. it works particularly well with automaton fortifications. It DOES suck when used in any other way than what it's good for, though.

I find it hilarious to know some bugs have a dedicated bucking animation for if someone gets on their back

I mostly use gas strikes when I'm behind chased. The slow effect helps with getting away

gas is fun though, clueless allies will run into it and enemies will stay still right on the edge

The laser is mostly a backup for me for if my railcannon is on cooldown when a tank come in, or to deal with objectives that have more than 2 hulks.

Some notes: - Stealth when approached as a tool, comes in more useful. And you can use loud noises to draw enemies into an area as you go around them. It is incredibly powerful when combined with planning to fight. You also lay prone and melee a lone, smaller enemy to death without alerting others often. The revolver ironically enough is very good for stealth if you use it to kill a small group of bots before they can call in reinforcements. For some reason it's sound radius is rather small. Stealth can also be used in a group to have 3 draw in reinforcements, and 1 other helldiver can take an objective alone. As a combined tactic, it's easily S tier. - Orbital lasers, if we're talking about effectiveness as part of the criteria, should be around C tier even if the rest of the points are E tier for fun/cursed. -380mm will with one, handle a command bunker every time from my experience. Very useful for those missions. - Cursed Eagle Airstrike idea would be staggering four people with them on bugs. Takes care of most bug breaches with barely having to shoot one shot. - "Screw this spot in particular" 500kg spam. Four 500kg on any bile titan or single big target. Plus you get two. - "Watch the world burn" fire spam. Ideal on a planet with fire tornadoes. Flamethrower, breaker incendiary, eagle napalm. Terrible on bots, endless flames for bugs. Fun tier list, give combined stealth a shot sometime it's best when used to set up situations. As a bonus, my favorite weapon combination of gear is usually like this. For bugs Eruptor, machine pistol, impact grenades. Stratagems are shield pack, quasar cannon, 500kg and eagle airstrike. For bots scorcher, grenade pistol, impact grenades. Strtagems are shield pack, AM rifle, 500kg and eagle airstrike.

A 2 man recoilless team on a hard defense mission can be a game changer. 1 RR plus 1 EAT. Gunner runs the RR, the loader has the supply pack and EATs. We can take down 75% of dropships, greatly thinning out bot waves for our defending teammates and turrets to finish off.

Stealth can be done if you go smart about it. Shots do lure in enemies, true, but beyond a certain distance, the bots don't automatically detect you because you fired a shot, they'll just investigate and lay down cover fire (and often call in pre-emptive reinforcements). This does not mean you are detected. You can snipe a bot, move to different location without being seen and the bots will just go in circles, confused where did the shot come from. You can use this to snipe the commissar, disengage from the retaliatory search party and use the fact that they are lured away to get where you need. Also, airstrikes and orbitals don't make a noise.(While being called in. The big fuck off explosions will make something of a ruckus) You can fuck up a big patch of enemies while still being undetected, or, if you stepped into a big pile of doodoo, you can use the stratagems as Get out of jail free cards. Furthermore, you can melee enemies. Meleeing is silent. I have personally launched ICBMs while dodging patrols, transfered critical data directly under the automatons noses all while being stealthy. Just don't try it against Terminids. They will find you and they will swarm you.

1:30 I like the artillery because it’s glorious to see the explosions and to look up to watch the rain of shells come down, yes you can actually see the super destroyers fire them and their path to the ground. Also, it’s a WW1 strat too. Fun

Gas works better now that DOT was fixed and it’s so sad to see that the arc thrower strat won’t be nearly as good anymore because of the fire rate nerf

The mech riding reminds me of Lost Planet. In that game you could ride on your friends mechs, not like this but with an actual button you press to latch on to it. It also has a grappling hook you can use to hang on to enemy mechs and shoot at them point blank.

Great format and funny thank you

I learned about the effectiveness of the arc thrower proper during the TCS order. It's one of the few crowd-control weapons you can shoot towards the silos without instantly stalling them

The main issue with trying to stealth Objectives is that there is usually at least 1 enemy staring at the objective console. This makes it almost impossible to do without pulling some schemes to lure them away with explosions.

Dude you are funny af. Love your stuff. Dont ever stop. ever

my favourite weapon for riding a mech is plasma punisher. not only do you overcome the PPs weakness of not being useable in CQC, because you're high up on the mech. but you also get a nice high vantage point to lob those orbs of plasma death down onto enemies.

My favorite trick is jet packing onto a chargers back and using the quasar on its head.

For stealth, different weapons have different sound profiles; energy weapons have very low sound profiles, the counter sniper is oddly quiet, and the revolver is insanely quiet. If you pick off an enemy from far enough away, then enemies won't aggro, but they will usually investigate the enemy's corpse. Melee also has no sound profile, so if you can melee down an enemy before they attack, it won't attract any attention.

Pro tips When you're burning train yourself to dive to prone instead of stimming, diving puts the fire out immediately When you're near a sentry stay in prone or climb on top of it to avoid death

hell yeah, refreshed youtube just in time to see this pop up.

12:45 IMPORTANT HELLDIVER PSA: If you're on fire, dive, the leap will put the fire out and buy you a little bit of time to stim

Man I was just thinking I wish someone would do a “fun” tier list. Good video man, commenting for the algorithm

I've absolutely successfully stealthed objectives. Its mostly down to the bot placement though. If a bot is standing right next to a terminal or directly facing it theres no chance.

imo stealth where you're truly undetected is kinda impossible in this game. But it's a great tool for having fights start on your terms and keeping them contained to prevent unnecessary bot drops. So it's like, you pick off isolated guards from a safe distance, then you move in closer to the pack, and then get ready to gun them all down in quick succession to stop any call ins.

The beauty of this game is that we can play it any way we can, everything is subjective. You good sir, did a great tier list

This video felt like if LazyPurple and Darkkmane fused togheter to make a perfect union of what makes their videos fun xD You're legendary, man! How come still so little recognition??

stealth in helldivers 2 is terrible, but passable, while the stealth in helldivers 1 is quite fun especially with multiple people it gets very difficult to not alert patrols

Another point for flamethrowers/being on fire. Diving to the ground will put you out, so you don’t have to panic stun yourself when you get set ablaze.

I love your content man, like its if martincitopants and therussianbadger became one incredibly funny nutjob lul. keep it up cus im lovin it

One more synergy on the turrets is to have a bubble shield to protect them. 90 sec cooldown and makes your turrets invincible

The gas strike was able to save me and my team in a defense mission. We were being overrunned by terminids and the gas strike was the only thing slowing their forces. Every gas strike got me 60+ kills

Neat video. Two points I’d argue with you: the sickle does just fine at clearing crowds with a little accuracy and trigger discipline. And the arc shotgun I’ve found to be quite handy for bug missions, I don’t like letting the bots in that close if I can help it

13:08 one thing that helps with this, is if you get set on fire, you can dive, and put it out.

The bug riding and mech riding make me wish there was a mechanic for both where you can press E to grip down on a knee onto it. For the charger, if he's about to try and buck you off you have to input a QTE similar to what you do with strategems in order to stay on. And the longer you stay on, the more difficult the input is.

Stealth really seems to be about getting past patrols without having to fight and stationing around an objective so that way when you go in its all in and they die before major reinforcements

At a certain skill level you kind of stop caring about what’s good and instead looking for what’s fun. Need more videos like this.

Honestly one of the more fun Helldivers vids I've seen. Especially in the sea of meta nerds. Though the best part for me was the the music and avatar choice! 💪

Gas strikes are bugged due to the DOT issue. If you're not the host, DOT damage isn't applied. This applies to Napalm and flamethrowers as well but they still sort of work because they have initial hit damage.

1:24 "there can be no ground war if there is no ground to war on"

I love hitting the bot ships, works okay if theres plenty of them below or if there's a factory below and you clutch it

a gunship strat would actually be so sick

I smell inspiration from the Frog Man. Nice vid!

If you are on fire, dive, you'll put yourself out.

damage over time effects are bugged, so that's why gas strike 'felt like it did nothing most of the time' - because it literally does, you're correct, it actually does nothing most of the time, only the network host (the person with the best internet regardless of who is squad leader and can kick or send the team back to the ship or decide where they fight

Gas strike DOT is fixed now so it does good damage now, it can lock down bug breaches very well

I have one for you. Its not cursed but boy is it satisfying. EMS orbital + Man Turrets versus bugs have 2 or three people running the strategems, at least the man turret and you will mow down so many bugs in a heartbeat. It is really fun. Alone, the man turret feels like a mini-Mech suit, its easy to stim in if surrounded by bugs and is great at taking out dangerous targets except for very armored ones. This is why I want Autocanon man turrets or rocket ones for a friend to jump on incase more armored units appear. With more man turret options, a squad of different man turrets can decimate without teamkilling like BOT turrets.

Arc Thrower strat is now even more viable with pushback being added at the expense of rate of fire. It's now less effective against tanks but more effective against fodder. And the distance nerf is not very noticeable. You just can't "snipe" with it anymore.

Im imagine a heavy fire proof armor with supply pack and incendiary grenades for everyone, you and your team would be an omen of death to any and all bugs

I think the gas is glitched and only works half the time. When it does work it's insane.

If you dive while you sare set on fire it puts it out immediately.

The orbital laser is just a giant rover, slightly less teamkills but just as dangerous to fellow Helldivers

Fun fact that makes flamethrowers better: if you dive you can put yourself out "Stop, Drop, and Roll".

one mech strat you didnt metion was everyone running mechs, but giving them all to one guy. in return, he can carry support weapon strategems for the team. benefits include that you cant call strategems while in a mech, so the pilot only has to call strategems outside fights, and that he gets SO many uses of the mech. also, if you get good at ammo management, you can save strategem slots for other stuff! as for stealth, it can be done but not often. before they added a new layout to the illegal broadcast site, you could consistently stealth up to the terminal by entering through the one choke theyre not watching, crouching to make sure they dont hear you, then just waltz to the terminal and deactivate it as opposed to using explosives. the new layout is more tricky, but with some luck its possible. Ive also managed to stealth the power generator on ICBM missions with mixed results. take out enemies at range to hide sound, in one shot so they dont call you out, and behind cover so others dont see the muzzle flash. do be aware of patrols though. they have an ugly habit of walking right into you if you stand still long enough.

Gas Strike at least deserves D or C, because of one reason, it is a roughly 1 minute cooldown that can close bug holes and destroy bot fabricators. You need to land the initial drop right on either one but it will do the job and kill any light infantry that is nearby.