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The Dangers of Tripping in at Tugboat

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TimBatSea

TimBatSea

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@danmc7815
@danmc7815 4 жыл бұрын
With ship assist work, one of the common tasks when the ship is turning is to have a line on the ship's bow closest to the inside of the turn. The tug will back and be used as a break against the ship's engines, allow the ship to have more turns on its propeller, and, therefore, more water over its rudder and turn faster. I can recall many times when I was running the tug doing that work, and the boat doing a squirrelly and not fun dance. Never tripped, but sometimes it felt like we might. I was on a tug that parted out of its push gear and began to trip near lower Ambrose Channel, pretty close to the Gedney Buoy. The weather was a little rough, and a couple of us got up out of our bunks after hearing the brake on the towing winch chirp. Once you heard the chirp, the gear was probably going to part. Well, one side did, when I had one leg in my pants, and the tug was leaning over being dragged in an instant. The other leg of my pants got balled up, and I was headed for the door. After three steps, we heard a big boom, the rest of the gear parted, the boat sat right up. Then, we made a pot coffee and got ready to chase down the barge. From the first chirp to starting the coffee, it lasted two minutes. Things can happen fast.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. In almost twenty years of working out here, I think I have never seen or heard of anyone in push gear in Ambrose. Glad to hear you all made it out ok. Thank you for watching.
@danmc7815
@danmc7815 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea I did it in 1988-89, twice a day when all was going well, which it seldom did. We were in and out of South Amboy. Left South Amboy, out Raritan Bay, when we crossed the point of Sandy Hook, we headed straight for Buoys 1 and 2 in Ambrose, dredged up a bunch of sand and brought it back to South Amboy to unload. Tug and Dredge pic: www.flickr.com/photos/photorusch/7085174889/ probably from long after I had left.
@captainrick9379
@captainrick9379 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever decide to retire from the water, You would make an excellent teacher! Be safe ! And Thanks for sharing!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Captain Rick. I really appreciate it!
@xXJAKMACKXx
@xXJAKMACKXx 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Your method of explanation is fantastic being an instructor would be a boon for a generation of mariners.
@johnnyangel9163
@johnnyangel9163 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Why don't you apply for the Below Deck Bravo show?Also ld like a video on line handling, coiling how to tie to cleats bollards bits.Whats that horseshoe piece on the bow behind you?Thanks for your great videos.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyangel9163 Thank you for watching Johnny. I have no interest in the "white boat" fleet or the show "Below Deck". LOL But I did do a line handling video and if you can'tfind it, message me and I'll shoot you a link. The thinkg inback of me that you where asking about is called a bull nose or staple. We sometimes run the headline through it. I hope that helps. CUOTO
@johnnyangel9163
@johnnyangel9163 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Thanks Cap!Shoot me that link for the line handling. Thanks again!
@robschaffer2189
@robschaffer2189 3 жыл бұрын
I have also learned from my experiences that screws don't work in the air and sails don't work underwater... Always try to mitigate the risk of tripping! :) Thank you for your videos! I'm glad I found them!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Rob. CUOTO
@keithgeisen
@keithgeisen 4 жыл бұрын
Never be ashamed of age or getting older - wisdom is it’s greatest benefit- you are a great teacher!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Keith! Please consider Subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday.
@darrenhillman8396
@darrenhillman8396 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK, it would be called “girting” but it happens for exactly the same reasons that you described. You have a like and a new subscriber. I could listen to your stories all day. I retired from the UK rail industry in December 2018 after 41 years. Working in the railway was something I always wanted to do, but I think if I hadn’t gone on the railway, I would have liked to have gone to sea and end up working on tugs. So instead, I photograph them and build large scale radio-controlled models of them! Greetings from the UK.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's cool. Thank you for watching and for Subscribing. It really means alot to me.
@moore4807
@moore4807 4 жыл бұрын
Great talk Tim - But I'm sorry - the guys letting out the hawser lines for the drydock kept distracting me, yeah and the water starting to flood the bottom of the drydock too... I'm such a bad student... :)) Will have to watch it again...and probably again.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Thank you for watching.
@mikeroosevelt2395
@mikeroosevelt2395 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@billmansfield309
@billmansfield309 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed great talk and interesting scene behind you
@matthewlyons7581
@matthewlyons7581 4 жыл бұрын
I work on the Columbia and Snake Rivers on a towboat. Very scary to get sideways on a barge with current behind you. Love the videos.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, and please be safe my brother.
@jessehaas5182
@jessehaas5182 4 жыл бұрын
If you’re sideways how is the current behind you? JK,love you buddy. You’re good crew. Jesse,
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessehaas5182 hahaha Thank you Jesse
@davemetz7368
@davemetz7368 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining " tripping " . From now on, when I watch tug boats, it kinda opened up another world to me on the possible dangers lurking out there. Prior to listening to you today, I just assumed you had a relatively safe job, excluding the normal boating things that could happen. thank you.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Dave. It's not so bad. But when thing go wrong, things can get really bad really fast.
@patrickcraig6032
@patrickcraig6032 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim,in the Fall of 1983 I think.A tug sank in the Kills assisting a ship.All the crew survived. The wreck blocked the channel for a week or more.They brought the Witte Heavy Lift crane barge to lift the tug out of the water.Divers could only work at slack water.I was there enforcing a security zone by COPT. The other sinking was a tug towing a scrappy on Long Island Sound when barge sank pulled the tug down.I wish that I could remember the tug names.A lot of water under this keel.Lol.All the best,be safe.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick. Never fun when things go wrong. Thank you for watching.
@danmc7815
@danmc7815 4 жыл бұрын
The second incident you mention sounds like the sinking of the Tug Celtic. She was pulled down by the scrap barge she was towing. See: www.liboatingworld.com/single-post/2017/01/12/Anatomy-of-a-Shipwreck-The-Tug-%E2%80%9CCeltic%E2%80%9D-and-Its-Barge-%E2%80%9CCape-Race%E2%80%9D Tugs sink fast, when they do, being nothing a hole in the water and engines. But, when the man at the helm cannot get out of the wheelhouse, then it went down really fast. Both incidents were before my time running tugs, but I was in an Academy at the time the Celtic sank, and grew up nearby.
@wetsuit5
@wetsuit5 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the direction to this video. I then take it you do not have an emergency release (panic button). I do remember this video as it was so cool watching the floating dry dock sink. The program I was talking about was towing a ship and then running aground and they had seconds to release the tow and their panic button failed to release in a timely manner and rolling the tug.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is another way to trip (or grind). Out winch has a brake that and a "dog" to permanently lock it. But we never use the dog just so the brake can slip it we are in a situation like that. We also have the ability to free wheel the drum if needed. This is not needed when in push gear, but we use the safety lines 9n either side to keep us from being tripped. CUOTO
@charlesmiller1446
@charlesmiller1446 Жыл бұрын
Wow, "Crazy Ivan" brought back some Navy memories! Your sea-wisdom never fails to impress. Thanks Capt Tim
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Charles. I appreciate that. CUOTO
@tracybeme1597
@tracybeme1597 4 жыл бұрын
You're right on your analogy. F=ma. Mass and Acceleration produces the resultant directional force. Some simple numbers, m=1 & a=1 results in 1 in force. m=2 & a=1 results in 2 in force. m=1 & a=2 results in 2 in force. Notice that doubling mass with acceleration remaining the same doubles the energy of force. Reversing the numbers of 1 in mass and 2 in acceleration also doubles the energy of force. Doubling either mass or accelation has the same effect regardless of what you are talking about. You explained it well. As a layman water worker I can suggest this, use a remote winch. The captain can lax the strain on line by chopping the line, real-out or backing up to prevent tripping. As a safety measure when pulling a heavy load, use a float behind the tug. Attachment tug, float, towed boat. The float should trip first signalling that quick action is required. Also if a line snaps, the float will take most of the hit. Get the tail towards the line. The tail will be flooded but you have time to escape before the tug sinks. Again, I'm a layman. Thanks for the video.
@tracybeme1597
@tracybeme1597 4 жыл бұрын
Construction trucks use headache racks to protect the cab from the load. I don't see why a tug can not use the same device for the same reason for line snap.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your indepth information. Not sure all of your ideas would be practical or useful, but some of the world's greatest things have come about when others said it couldn't be done. Cheers.
@utuber348
@utuber348 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about your profession in ways that this armchair sailor can understand. You are obviously very competent, you obviously like people, and you obviously enjoy what you're doing.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
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@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 4 жыл бұрын
One of the more endearing things about a Navy ARS salvage tug is it carries two 35 ton keging anchors midships well above the main deck. When you are in the engine room with the four turbocharged diesels ruining your hearing and warming the place to 90 deg or more you can look at the inclinometer moving past say 20 deg and think about those anchors. The Preserver towed a LST that had been converted to a diving support barge from Jacksonville to Panama. When we were transferring the barge from us to the harbor tugs the barge stopped and starting backing. We kept going forward with our towing line still connected to the barge. It went straight and tore the guide off the stern and actually overcame the drag on the winch. That was a scary moment . Fortunately no one was hurt but the shipfitters had some welding to do. Yours is the first channel I want to subscribe to once I figure out how.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Greg. Welcome aboard. It really means alot to me.
@georgerenton965
@georgerenton965 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a heavy poly line break under tension one night while assisting the docking of a barge. It sounded like a gun going off and pieces of it where just hanging in the air as though they weren’t moving in a cloud of smoke. All this under the bright glow of the deck lights. Quite surreal actually. Crew on deck, and on the barge just went back to what they where doing as though it was just another day on the boat.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching George. I used to work for a company that towed everything except oil. Now I only move oil. There is a big difference between the two types of companies. We too used to break lines and work them until they broke, but now at this company, breaking a line requires a report and possible investigation and drug test. The paperwork in the oil business is a bit more as well. Be safe and I'll CUOTO
@jimsnow8004
@jimsnow8004 4 жыл бұрын
The crush injury you mentioned, related to the guy who got caught between the wire and the hull: As long as the pressure is on, the side of the body with the heart and the head in it is still working fairly normally. As soon as the pinch pressure is removed, there is a catastrophic drop in blood pressure as blood goes into the space again, often also an uncontrolled bleed, plus a bunch of other injury related chemical imbalances, and it is nearly impossible to survive. This mechanism of injury will show up in train jumpers, industrial accidents and MVC's. When it is just a limb pinched off, the medic will start a big bore I.V. with a big bag of saline hung BEFORE extricating the patient, in order to be able to treat the blood pressure drop immediately with a fluid bolus. Overboard...not happening...
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I think that's probably how it went. Thank you for sharing and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@j.patrickdonaghue199
@j.patrickdonaghue199 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Hi Tim Thanks for the Video I remember that incident in Portland Iknew that fellow it was very tragic
@flick22601
@flick22601 4 жыл бұрын
If memory serves me, I remember that one of the possible causes of tripping with the old Army 65' tugs was making a sharp right(?) turn at high speed, then backing down hard with opposite rudder. A maneuver often used when approaching a ship to aid it in steering. They were very top heavy.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. They just have been. That hasn't been a problem for me (yet.... Lol). Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@TheDecguy
@TheDecguy 4 жыл бұрын
I love the series of videos but I knew that at some point you would get to this topic. When some goes wrong under tow it tends to happen fast and the results can be deadly. To you and all the crews, be safe.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
@m3nathan
@m3nathan 3 жыл бұрын
I must admit, I was paying you such close attention that it wasn't until the dry dock's deck started to lap water that I even noticed it had moved! Another fascinating video and subject Tim, thanks very much. There was a tug in the Geelong Harbour, down here in Australia, that was tripped and sunk whilst working a ship at the Yarra street pier. The person relating the story said she was "girdered" or "girted" and I've always wondered just what he meant and how it happened. You've explained it for me perfectly.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
@robertcirincione6099
@robertcirincione6099 4 жыл бұрын
Tim talking about how fast a tug will sink made me think of the tragedy a couple of years ago at the Tappan Zee construction when that tug went down. Scary fast.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very sad. The captain lost in that incident was the father of a captain I worked with. It was so tragic and sad. Thank you for watching.
@hudsonhawk0016
@hudsonhawk0016 4 жыл бұрын
I was working on the TZ bridge project when it happened. Every time I pulled into Tarrytown to pick up crew, I had to pass the family of the crew members on board the Specialist when it went down. It was a sad and tragic accident that I'll never forget.
@doncornish4173
@doncornish4173 4 жыл бұрын
Tripping can occur in recreational boating too. Hooked up to a stranded fellow boater and the wind changed on the way to shore. Started pulling my 19 footer over. I had a buddy with a hunting knife standing ready in case. And indeed...he quickly cut us loose!! Ruined my line but saved my boat and all of us in it. Thanks!!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Don. As Captain Ron says, "If anything going to happen, it's going to happen out there". Lol Glad to hear you got out of it with only new lines to buy. Stay safe.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Don. As Captain Ron says, "If anything going to happen, it's going to happen out there". Lol Glad to hear you got out of it with only new lines to buy. Stay safe.
@Salty80556
@Salty80556 3 жыл бұрын
Great Videos. Just retired from OTR Trucking. Its nice to hear a bit about how you all do what I have seen from shore. Keep up the good work.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Don and best of luck and enjoy your retirement. CUOTO
@ttw702
@ttw702 2 жыл бұрын
I am replying to what you said last. In martial Arts there is what they call a four finger death punch.This is where your fist is exactly the distance of your middle finger away from your impact surface.This is enough force to explode your heart and bread every rib within a 8 inch radius..So I would say the theory is dead on point.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@stripersniper1531
@stripersniper1531 4 жыл бұрын
I find all this very interesting.Thanks Tim for explaining and bringing us along with you.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it!
@TimsBitsnPieces
@TimsBitsnPieces 3 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video. Sorry, but I was at times busy watching the dry dock moving and starting to submerge.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Tim. I don't think you are alone in that. CUOTO
@richabrahamsen8439
@richabrahamsen8439 2 жыл бұрын
I know this a year old, but your deck hand Dalton’s Grandfather was on a tug that tripped in NY harbor. He was on the single screw Turecamo Boys(Girls?) back in the 60s that tripped and sunk. Everybody got out but the Engineer had a heart attack and died.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
😲😲😲😲😲 Thank you for watching. Wow that's an amazing story. Glad everyone got out ok. CUOTO
@Mrsnichols1965
@Mrsnichols1965 4 жыл бұрын
Very much enjoying the channel. As a kid my grandparents owned a home along the Tolchester Channel and I am still fascinated by the traffic passing by that location. I'd be glad to see more videos of work days, and whatever your employer will allow.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching. I do enjoy going up Tolchester. Beautiful area. It's a difficult time now and everyone is feeling the effects of the pandemic. I just uploaded Tuesday's video on Plimsoll marks, loadlines and draft marks. I am hoping to do a crew change update on or around Wednesday dealing with the situation as it effects us, but it will be a short one. Then, if all goes well, the next video will be about fuel soundings and why we don't have Fuel gauges on Tugboats. I hope to continue the day in a Life series of different positions on the boat, but my crew is less than enthusiastic about being filmed as I am. If you haven't already, please consider subscribing and thank you again for watching.
@Graveltrucking
@Graveltrucking 4 жыл бұрын
Its one of the biggest fears is getting rolled over by your tow, been close calls where the tug is getting dragged sideways and the bullwarks are plowing water. Major incident happpend 11 years ago, full capsize didn't sink the scow got caught in an ebbing tide swung around tug was shortened up too much, the decision to try overpower it didn't work. A 600hp 42x17.5 tug towing 172x48 ramp scow probably had 200 tons on it. Common size coastal barge for getting into inlets hauling heavy equipment and fuel oil for logging camps. Canadian coast guard started enforcing keeping engine room hatches and water tight doors closed. A rule came into effect deckhand must be near winch brake when transiting narrows where you have to wait for slack water to transit. The current in some of these areas can reach 14 knots no tug would be safe to transit at those times.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy. I've seen a few videos of tows in the Pacific Northwest and I'm not in a hurry to run out there any time soon. Lol. Be safe my brother.
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea It is normally very safe, since the captain can time the arrival at the passes where slack is needed. Ports and Passes has detailed tide charts that give you the timings for the year at every pass.* You can't beat the beauty of cruising in this area, a true heaven for all boating as long as you respect the power of the sea. Check the slowboat channel on here, they give good info on working out the timings and how when the time given is for a main pass and your need is a secondary to it. * I can't remember if Ports and Passes offsets for daylight savings or not, I know the official tidal charts they start with doesn't and all times in it are standard time.
@leemiller1784
@leemiller1784 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I like the explaining for tripping I worked on a trawler in the ocean pulling nets so i know what you are saying thank you for sharing have a great and bless day
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel Lee. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every week. CUOTO
@combatmedic1980
@combatmedic1980 4 жыл бұрын
Tim, let me make a suggestion for a better video, most You Tube creators, use a remote mike. I have noticed a few of your videos, you are hard to hear, as this one is. Especially when there is background noise. Just a friendly suggestion to up the sound quality. Hope you don't take any offense, none was intended.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that. I have looked into getting a different microphone, but you may have noticed that I am not monitized. So yes, I will most definitely get there one day, but as of today I am working the 4th week of an 8 week hitch just trying to pay my taxes. (I guess I should call it my own social distancing).
@thevideoace6
@thevideoace6 4 жыл бұрын
I was legit just about to suggest that. Mind reader!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@Liberty4awl wow. Interesting. I'll have to look into that.
@ryanthompson2137
@ryanthompson2137 4 жыл бұрын
TimBatSea Sounds like a scam. MLM or something. Be careful.
@kapplerphoto
@kapplerphoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea You can use the voice recorder on your Iphone, put it your pocket with the bottom up and synch it with the video when you edit
@waynegutschmidt7586
@waynegutschmidt7586 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video, From the shore you wouldn't think about tripping.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@timothystevens4840
@timothystevens4840 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing you talk about the danger of cables reminded me of the time I witnessed 3 strands of a cable break from a tow truck to a semi that was trying to get up an incline with a load of wood when I worked for my dad's logging company in my youth (over 50 years ago). One of the strands went through the windshield and ripped the seat next to the driver to shreds, missing the driver by inches. The driver was so shaken he could hardly walk when he got out of his truck. So, there are least two things I don't do. One, I would never jump out of a perfectly good airplane, and two, I never go near cables under load, or rope either for that matter.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Good ideas! Thank you very much for watching Timothy. CUOTO
@dryroasted5599
@dryroasted5599 4 жыл бұрын
"Pulls a Crazy Ivan..." LOL!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@uscaptainstraining
@uscaptainstraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Very insightful and full of experiential wisdom.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. USCG sector NY VTS, and SUNY Maritime and others use my content in their training. CUOTO
@uscaptainstraining
@uscaptainstraining 2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed right away! I am developing an upgrade master 200 to Apprentice Mate course so I'll be watching all of your videos and taking notes. Thank you for the hard work you put in!
@robertgriffiths8204
@robertgriffiths8204 2 жыл бұрын
New to this & really enjoying watching the videos ' always had an interest tug boats. And great at explaining everything Tim
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching Robert. CUOTO
@CaptRD
@CaptRD 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the episode very much, very interesting topic. The activity going on behind you with the floating drydock was interesting too. I would have loved to watch the rest of that operation and see what's involved in getting a vessel in and out of a drydock like the one in this video.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. You may enjoy seeing my shipyard series and splash video. You will still a time lapse of a drydock launching a boat. Please consider subscribing.
@yetanotherhobby5698
@yetanotherhobby5698 3 жыл бұрын
How does the KZfaq algorithm do it? I never knew how much I wanted to watch tugboat videos, but here we are. Great channel! Subscribed.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching and subscribing. Welcome! CUOTO
@dennisjay3277
@dennisjay3277 4 жыл бұрын
I spent 43 years in the oilfield running a winch truck. I can testify to how much kinetic energy, we call them winch lines, store. I have seen them tear up a lot of stuff when they break or come tight after being way slack. I have a request. Could you talk about yourself as a captain and your crew. How one goes about hiring out. Years it takes to work up the chain. The duties of crew members. If you could figure out a safe way of discussing wages. Food, does everyone through in money at the beginning of the tour? Just generally discuss boat family and how that effects blood family. I have been subscribed for a couple of months now.
@dennisjay3277
@dennisjay3277 4 жыл бұрын
I missed the vlog that you did three weeks ago that covers all of my questions. Thank you
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Yes, I believe most of your questions are covered in my video, "How to work on a Tugboat". I think the only one not in there is the grub money. We get money based on man/day before we get on, and usually try to go grub shopping in the first day or so on the boat.
@shaunolinger964
@shaunolinger964 2 жыл бұрын
I'm learning what I can from you to make operating my 3½ ft long, 35 pound tugboat "Atlantic" safer and more fun. One of my very first times out I tripped the tug, on the wire with my 17ft, 300 pound kayak. I very nearly sank a $1200 model! She's incredibly stable... rolled at least 70° to port... and thank goodness I built a very capable bilge pump into her, because she buried her stern clear over the engine room hatch. It's held down, but not watertight. I still don't understand how I did it, but I think the wind blew me so far sideways to my course track that I ran out of helm authority, something I really didn't expect to happen with 90° of travel stop to stop, and dual azi-pods. Can that trip a tug? The tow getting blown off track so far the tug just gets pulled over? I didn't pass it, but the stern got pulled under a wave, she rounded up against the helm, and over she went. I cut power and let her get pulled around, my cable attaches behind her center of rotation, but if I hadn't released the throttle and centered helm she was going up on her beam.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man Shaun. That sounds like a very expensive day. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
@bradholderman8462
@bradholderman8462 4 жыл бұрын
Cap, I work on the schooner Harvey Gamage in Portland, Maine, I believe you had stated in another video that your dad lives in the area. While my work is very traditional, I've appreciated your personal approach in your videos. I've learned a lot about an aspect of the harbor that I never really interact with. Cheers.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brad. I know the Harvey Gamage. (When we were kids, we used to think it was so funny to call it the "Heavy Garbage"). I grew up on Monhegan Island and the Gamage used to stop there all the time. If I remember correctly, that was the only schooner that had engine. It also had it's guests have to row ashore. Being a bunch of land lubbers, we used to call those boats the spastic spiders. Lol. (Growing up on and island, you don't get alot to amuse you). Thank you for the kind words and for watching. Maybe I'll run into you up metaphorically one day up there).
@bradholderman8462
@bradholderman8462 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Cap, I love our visits to Mohegan, my favorite of the season although our captains hate the Anchorage options. Staying at that hotel for a weekend is on my bucket list now. I've done some great fishing at anchor, had residents kayak out and visit and angered a few with our fog signal (captain decided to turn it off). Keep the videos coming.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradholderman8462 yes sir. I was just working over on my time off on a different boat in our fleet in Baltimore. The captain used to sail on the Gamage and actually met his wife on it. Small world. Be safe and stay healthy.
@bradholderman8462
@bradholderman8462 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea The is what has amazed me about this boat, primarily its affect on the Portland area. We can't stop anywhere with someone coming to us, saying they used to work the boat. Last year, I was injured during anchor hoist, my hand got between the cap rail and anchor. The med tech stitching my finger up, asked what boat I worked on. Harvey Gamage, "Oh yeah, I worked on that boat before, port or starboard anchor?"
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradholderman8462 hahaha. That's great. She has a rich long history. Be safe my brother.
@eddieweigel9490
@eddieweigel9490 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Captain you should open a tugboat training facility excellent Video as always tremendous amount of force in that 2 inch wire stay safe see ya on the one
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Eddie. CUOTO
@randallkaplan6425
@randallkaplan6425 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was working for the bath iron works in the 80s on the Maine state pier in Portland and one morning the end of the pier was full of official cars. Seems a tug and barge w as coming in and lost track of the barge at night. It had been tripped and it was a body recovery . The tug was capsized. Very bad day for all. I tell my daughter , a McAllister captain on that same pier, be careful. Working on a boat is like being in jail with a chance of drowning!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir. "Being in jail with a chance of drowning" lol. I'll have to remember that one. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why you get *sucked in* and slam into the ship you're trying to aid is because water has an awesome amount of tensile strength similar to a rope(water binds to water.) To see what I mean simply fill a glass with water and start dropping dimes in it. That glass will take a surprising amount of dimes and literally stand well above the physical top of the glass before *breaking free*(spilling to the sides of the glass.) Same said be true of any large displacement vessel: the water is pushed down by the mass of the hull but next to that *lower water* is a wave caused by how the water sticks to itself. This causes your smaller vessel to get *sucked in* towards the object you are sent to work on and slam into it. It might be cause for any bobbing effect as described here as well as you're basically working on top of a wave when either pushing or pulling.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Andrew. I agree water has surface tension, but I am not thinking that is the main force at play. I like to think of it as how an airplane produces lift. The air having to move faster over the top of a wing produces lift just as the water increases in speed between a ships hull and the tug coming along side. In any case, I am pleased to have you in our group. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@waynecompton7612
@waynecompton7612 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Tim, Thank you for the video and information!! Take care and catch you next time 👍😎🇬🇧.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wayne.
@TyphoonVstrom
@TyphoonVstrom 4 жыл бұрын
Like your videos, particularly like this one. The sounds remind me of the suburb I grew up in, surrounded by commercial shipping. We had a decent sized container terminal two blocks from our house, a VLCC terminal around the point and a huge commercial harbour on the other side of the peninsula. We also had two of the largest tug fleets very close by. I'm old enough to remember waking up of a morning to the sounds of big ship diesels and tugs communicating by horn.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow very cool. Thank you for sharing. I'm presently work over on a tug in Baltimore, and the assist tugs still use peep whistles to acknowledge the orders coming over the radio from the pilot.
@TyphoonVstrom
@TyphoonVstrom 4 жыл бұрын
I also really liked watching the floating dock submerging in the background.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@TyphoonVstrom I thought that would be fun to have in the background, but I got a few people complaining about the sound wanting me to buy microphones. Isn't KZfaq free? I'm not monitized. Lol. Well I'm glad you liked it.
@TyphoonVstrom
@TyphoonVstrom 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, probably the same sort of people that move into their shiny new waterfront development, right next to a terminal, then complain incessantly about any little waterfront noise.
@williamsestrom6355
@williamsestrom6355 4 жыл бұрын
If no remote mike is available, there's a thing called the proximity effect in microphones. Basically, the closer you get the louder. So in this scene, if you just get ten feet or so closer it will mitigate the background noise by perhaps 40%. Or go in the wheelhouse where it's quieter. But whatever you do, don't stop! I am enjoying these videos!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cool tip and for watching.
@robfraley4210
@robfraley4210 4 жыл бұрын
One of those Green Burbon supply boats got pulled over and sank in the North Sea towing an oil rig a few years ago getting cockeyed on the tow line...
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Things can get out of hand fast out there. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@waltereskridge5055
@waltereskridge5055 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the explanations.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Walter. CUOTO
@douglasscott3541
@douglasscott3541 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great video Tim. Bits of it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about being "Tripped" down here in Australia we call that being "Girdered" i believe Im not a Tug person myself. I think I might just stick to our Sailing Ships on Sydney Harbour .
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug. Take care down there.
@freeridemtb2
@freeridemtb2 4 жыл бұрын
Tim as a fellow KZfaq creator, I appreciate that you take the time to reply to your comments. My hat is off to you sir... also great content.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you. I appreciate that.
@davidhunden120
@davidhunden120 2 жыл бұрын
I'm reading this a couple of years late, but when thinking about the "wire through the donut" scenario, one could set up an experiment where a watermelon (perhaps in a bag) is hung from a frame (a simple wooden frame, similar to a kid's swing-set) and positioned in a place where it would be struck by the wire as it (the wire) swings/snaps from one side to the other. You'll know pretty quickly if the "swing/snap" of the wire is fatal to a persons head or hips or some other body part, if struck.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea David! Thank you. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@BlessedBaubles
@BlessedBaubles 4 жыл бұрын
I could tell right away you have a lot of back ups you do that are quite awesome. Looking forward to watching a craftsman at his craft. Btw, I hope this isn't a silly idea regarding your question about the wire, but piano companies might be a place you could inquire. The harps inside and all that tension is pretty awesome stuff. I bought a full grand piano years ago, turned out to be quite a collector. The man I had tune it up started freaking out, tightening nuts, because I guess someone before me thought they might paint the piano and was probably loosening things, thinking they could take the harp out. He said loosening all those strings is like an explosion! He said ppl actually dropped piano harps in war time! Not sure how true that is but it's all very interesting for sure.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very cool story. And I can see what you are talking about. You are lucky to have a grand of your own. I haven't enjoyed the action of a proper grand in 35 or 40 years. I remember my teachers piano felt so good to play. Thank you for watching. I really appreciate it.
@johnswimcat
@johnswimcat 3 жыл бұрын
Much as I'd have liked to work on a tug, a fishing boat or be a scaffolder you need the right stuff for all those jobs
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching John. Please consider Subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. You might like my video "How to work on a Tugboat"
@bills5621
@bills5621 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Tim. Hope you’re doing well my friend.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bill. I really appreciate it.
@skyking6989
@skyking6989 2 жыл бұрын
I had a bad trip once..the 60s were wild man
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
@mnrobards
@mnrobards 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thanks for sharing.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@BrazilianSeafarer
@BrazilianSeafarer 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another great explanatory video. Safety minded all the time. Have a great day captain.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching Anderson.
@brucenadams1
@brucenadams1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. A line like the one in the video behind your left shoulder parted during an exercise. No way to snub it. The bitter end came back on the ship like a missile. No one was hurt, but the incident was a reminder that around lines and wire rope, bad things can happen fast and have disastrous results. PS: Could we get a bridge tour?
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Yes. You are correct. Things go wrong fast. I want to do a wheelhouse your, but I am walking a very narrow line of what I want to film and what my employer is ok with. Although I love doing this, running the boat pays the mortgage. But rest assured, it is one that I want to do, I just have to wait for the right time and get the proper permission. Thank you for watching.
@johnmccaughan4195
@johnmccaughan4195 4 жыл бұрын
Anything that is under tension or stress is dangerous, that includes your girlfriend. Tim your sound is ok don't worry about it, I just turn the volume up and pay closer attention. Just keep making videos I am learning a lot.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. I really do appreciate it!
@Paul_Au
@Paul_Au 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea I have been watching for a while. I never really bothered to sub but I just did. The sound is fine... Sometimes it's not perfect but we can hear and understand you. Don't stress about it. No commercials please! I was listening to you, but I was watching what was going on with the floating dock behind you. LOL.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paul_Au Thank you for subscribing. I'm trying to get better. Like anything, it's a process. Thank you again.
@Paul_Au
@Paul_Au 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea You are doing just fine in my book.
@koyejosofoluwe6729
@koyejosofoluwe6729 4 жыл бұрын
I think what comes to play in the case of the grain of sand, moving at a high speed, and the wire, under the influence of something very heavy, and moving side to side, would be momentum. It is clearly explained in physics (I only got to understand this when teaching my 7 year old kid. I did make a mess of my physics grades, while studying chemistry). It is an interesting, yet complex phenomenon - momentum, not my poor grades. Momentum is a product of mass and velocity.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Koyejo. Please consider Subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. Tripping is very different. The barge with the load continues to go straight, but the Tugboat get turned sideways and rolls over.
@koyejosofoluwe6729
@koyejosofoluwe6729 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea oh yes, I understand tripping is different. I was trying to explain the reason behind the energy around the wire, and the grain of sand. And yes, I've subscribed already. Your videos give me a bit of a soft landing into life on the tugboat.
@Davidrixmusic
@Davidrixmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content! I too enjoy the sounds in the background, I can hear you fine but, that being said I suppose some listeners could be hearing impaired. I do have a theory that people partly choose career paths based on the sounds and smells of the work environment. I love the smell of diesel and the Sea...In my case, as a young man I worked below deck and some above deck work but, ended up driving city buses for 25 years. I loved the smell of starting up the bus in the morning but, not so much the smell of some passengers. HA! I love the discussion of the physics involved with Towing! I am in the Coast Guard Auxilary, it's small potatoes compared to tug work but, we end up towing vessels adrift and in less than ideal conditions. Lots to look out for besides the unpredictable actions of people under stress.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I don't know about busses, but we have been getting weaned off high sulfur diesel and now have ultra low sulfur diesel and the smell has changed a bit. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@Davidrixmusic
@Davidrixmusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea HA! Indeed! I am a subscriber.
@btkeller93
@btkeller93 3 жыл бұрын
i think you're onto something with the sounds and smells thing.
@paulliebenberg3410
@paulliebenberg3410 4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago a buddy's father was killed in (off-shore) Alaska while towing a pulp barge; night time, winds pick up, fog sets in and as they turned to make a safe harbor they get slack wire. By the time they figure out what was happening the barge has already been blown past them (they cant see it---and this was before modern radar). I never heard the word "tripping" used before but the tug rolled with only one deck hand being rescued to tell the tale. As the story goes the rest of the crew was never found.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Tragic man. Sorry to hear it. Thank you for watching.
@paulliebenberg3410
@paulliebenberg3410 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Thank You. And keep the background noise; it's reality.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulliebenberg3410 that was my thinking as well. But you can't make everyone happy. Lol
@jjosephm7539
@jjosephm7539 4 жыл бұрын
We always kept the door to the back deck next to the fidley, closed. If the boat goes over and water gets through that door and in the engineroom, it's over.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Yes! That is one of our first rules! Some chiefs get cranky about it in the summer, but they are alive to bitch about it later. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@marty2872
@marty2872 4 жыл бұрын
Good story, thanks! (and I liked watching the submersible going down in the background!)
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@randyward273
@randyward273 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the dry dock operating in the background
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Randy. I have improved the audio and other things since filming that. If you are new to the channel, Welcome and please consider Subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. With regard to the question of the energy in the wire moving back and forth under strain, the basic formula is a Force equals Mass times Velocity. In that case, it’s the enormous mass of the wire, rigging and the tow plus the force exerted by the engine and propeller of the tug, times the velocity of movement of the wire and doughnut. Because the mass is large, even with small movement carries a lot of energy. It’s like hitting the dock at very low speed with a huge ship.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's exactly how it see it. Years ago while I was still on deck, I was on a loaded barge the hit the fendering on a bridge. We could not have been doing more than one Knott. Those pilings blew up like they were full of explosive. Thank you for watching.
@singlemalt8
@singlemalt8 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the formula is energy = mass x velocity squared. A small change in velocity can greatly change the energy.
@Ron_the_Skeptic
@Ron_the_Skeptic 3 жыл бұрын
@@singlemalt8 : K.E.= (m × v squared) / 2, also relevant is F = m x a. K.E. is kinetic energy; m is mass; v is velocity; F is force; a is acceleration. It's a complicated engineering problem. Presumably the cable is stretched from the winch through the donut to the barge. As the barge and tug move around the cable is bent at the donut because friction between donut and bar prevent the donut moving as easily as the rest of the cable. Either through the cable tension changing or the angle across the donut changing, enough lateral force is applied to the donut to overcome the friction and the donut repositions extremely quickly. Once free of the friction the cable becomes straight (at least when viewed from above) and movement of the donut and that part of the cable stops. The mix of inertia and friction will determine how far past a straight line the cable travels before it reverses direction and rests in a straight line. The further from the donut, the less the cable accelerates, and the less it moves. Acceleration is extremely rapid as potential energy is converted to kinetic energy, but negative acceleration is also extremely rapid as the cable passes the point where the cable is straight and then moves to the new resting position. To calculate how hard the cable might hit an object beside the cable, you would need to know: - the weight of the part of the cable contacting the object - the distance the cable (at the contact point) travelled - the duration of cable motion before the object was contacted - the position the contact portion of the cable would be in if the cable were straight, without contacting anything. I may have left a few factors out! Tension on the cable and the length of the table would affect the result. How rapidly the object hit caused the cable to decelerate would affect the force, as well. #CUOTO
@johnmcauliffe9391
@johnmcauliffe9391 2 жыл бұрын
Although it looks like it's irritating him, I love the boat with the detroit's in the audio background
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching John. Those old two stroke Detroits are hard to miss. CUOTO
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 4 жыл бұрын
I was listening to what you were saying but also watching the dry dock behind you. To bad you didn't get a time lapse of that. Oh well maybe next time. ;-)
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
You may like our drydocking series. My time lapse there got corrupted but I think you will like them.
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Yeah I saw them thanks. I have never seen coolers on the exterior of a tug before. I work security close to a small ship yard and our cameras can zoom in pretty close. But it is at a bad angle also.
@dcr00k
@dcr00k 4 жыл бұрын
Steel wire at that tension probably has zero give compared to the human body. It must be like getting smacked with a thousand pound sledge hammer. That is chilling.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting David. Yes it is chilling. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@scottvaughan473
@scottvaughan473 4 жыл бұрын
That was a hard one for me to keep in my brain. In a osha class I took the instructor put a glass mason jar on the table and said. Every time you call the wire rope a cable. It’s a dollar in the jar. 25 dollars later. I learned cable holds bridges and hooks to your tv. Once you hook it to a wench it becomes live. And it’s a wire rope or synthetic rope. But it’s rope. I learned Rope is the safe word.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Scott. I hope you learned something to do with safety in your OSHA class. We are not so focused on words like cable or wire rope, probably because we are actually doing real work and not teaching OSHA classes. Lol
@michaelsadeh
@michaelsadeh 2 жыл бұрын
If you let a penny or a cent coin drop from the top of the Empire State Building, it would hit the ground at a similar speed to a fired bullet, there is a formula to calculate it right. If I'm not mistaken it's weight x distance something...
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Michael. I understand where you are going with this. But on a side note, the penny falling from the empire state building is myth. It reaches it's terminal velocity and has the same speed as if it only fell from a few floors up. (Useless info and not a lot of help here, but I thought it was interesting when I saw it on myth busters). Thank you very much for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@tomsummers1137
@tomsummers1137 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve nearly been tripped twice towing on the wire. Once when the tug went aground in the Sacramento Ship Channel, and once at sea when the tug lost propulsion due to loss of control air. Remember, barges are more slippery than tugboats. You need to be quick releasing the winch brake, or the tow-er will become the towed. I think we need little models to properly illustrates this stuff.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Sometimes I'll be telling a story about what just happened and I use the remotes for the TV as my models. Lol. Thank you for watching.
@stevebell4906
@stevebell4906 4 жыл бұрын
We had a demonstration by the martial arts instructor.....I was the subject..(victim)...Standing in front of me with his hand two inches from my shoulder, and me expecting it to happen, he hit me and all but knocked me down....The wall behind me kept me from going too far back or over... He didn't weigh any more than I did either.....but he was able to accelerate so fast in the two inches and hit me that hard...Now imagine all of that energy in that cable and it jumping just two inches...And your body in it's path!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Yes. Good analogy. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@georgewootton2644
@georgewootton2644 4 ай бұрын
Tim ... one of your comments here on autopilot failure was ... "We find that the cube relays are the things that go and go often on tugboats. The contacts stick and she goes hard over. CUOTO". How often is often on tugboats this going hard over (sounds extremely dangerous)? I know it would be hard to quantify but have you had it happen several times on your watches over your career? Another informative video. Stay safe ... CUOTO / CUOT2.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching George. That's a tricky one to answer. So first of all, once is too many times. Second, the company I currently work for has newer and highly reliable equipment, a necessity when pushing oil. But all mechanical things fail. But let's talk about my previous employer. We didn't push red flag and the equipment was much older. On one boat in particular, it was a weekly event. CUOTO
@georgewootton2644
@georgewootton2644 4 ай бұрын
Tim ... erudite explanation ... "once is too many times"! CUOTO / CUOT2@@TimBatSea
@georgewootton2644
@georgewootton2644 4 ай бұрын
Tim ... erudite explanation ... "once is too many times"! CUOTO / CUOT2 @@TimBatSea
@dewhalin
@dewhalin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@chrismanning1746
@chrismanning1746 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Connecticut Have a safe journey
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Rick. (I am currently right around the corner from you in Rhode Island). Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408 4 жыл бұрын
In that scenario involving the winch cable, if the cable snapped, it is likely that if it broke far enough out that the weight of the line is going to simply drop into the water. If it breaks close to the tug, the greyed line will cut through anything less weight dense than it will be cut through in it's path. When I say anything less weight dense and/or more brittle than it that includes humans, wood, glass, hydraulic lines, sheet metal, rubber, plastic, etc. (I pray that you get the picture that huge amounts of weight is the only stopping force of that heavy steel cable snapping) and refer to Newton's law of motion.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I was not talking about the wire breaking, although in the very rare case of that happening, it almost always break near the socket at the very end due to it getting most of the bending and abuse. No, I was referring to the wire jumping under load. It is quite common to have the wire move or jump back and forth.
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSeaI am mostly on lockdown at home with a lot of time and am an engineer. I grew up around the medical field and have most of the data for the human body limits (thank you internet) and you have my curiosity. Pass along the numbers and I will crunch them. how much does the cable weigh per foot? How many tonnes of force is it pulling with? What specifications is the cable built to? Which alloy is the cable? What is the rate of perpendicular movement does the cable travel at?
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
@@chefmatthammerschmidt8408 Cool. Give me a little time to get it together.
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408
@chefmatthammerschmidt8408 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea if you can place a camera looking vertically down at the deck with metric measurement reference points and send the footage to me via Microsoft office account associated with Matt.hammer20@gmail.com that will go a long ways. Also, are you and your men/women in "football shape"?
@rogerdeves1511
@rogerdeves1511 4 жыл бұрын
Gee never thought of these dangers very interesting Tim I guess it all comes down to good training & diligence. Ingat kuya
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Roger. I just uploaded tomorrow's video, and it may be of interest to you. In it we talk about strange Phenomenon and anomalies that happen at sea. CUOTO
@allancrow134
@allancrow134 3 жыл бұрын
Leading cause of autopilot failure: The $5 potentiometer in the RAT(rudder angle transmitter) fails.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Allan. We find that the cube relays are the things that go and go often on tugboats. The contacts stick and she goes hard over. CUOTO
@jonathanbradley6819
@jonathanbradley6819 3 жыл бұрын
The Carnival Fantasy behind you is now in a scrap yard in Turkey
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Jonathan. The cruise industry has suffered in this pandemic. #CUOTO
@chrisbyrnes5451
@chrisbyrnes5451 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that the equation would be force = mass x acceleration..... with the masses that you're working with, even a small amount of movement would be catastrophic
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct. Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@theotherfinnegan9955
@theotherfinnegan9955 4 жыл бұрын
never be near a wire under tension but there are hundreds of videos where people do
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. I've seen a few and they still haunt me. Thank you for watching.
@James-seafan
@James-seafan 2 жыл бұрын
interesting video thank you tim
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching James. CUOTO
@jacebigelow
@jacebigelow 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you Tim ! Stay healthy and safe. NCL canceled cruises until at least April 11th. I hope your job remains busy and unaffected. Do you have emergency cable cutting tools on board ? Like a big cut off wheel / abrasive disc? Im sure there's a 4" or a 4.5" side grinder in the engine room workshop, but what about for up on deck ?
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
That sucks. We are all concerned. Bunker jobs will stop or slow with the markets and most of the container ships are coming from China. We all do have grinders, but the tool of choice is the "Smoke Wrench" (Oxi acetylene). I haven't known or heard anyone having to cut the wire in a emergency, but one thought is to free spool the winch and let it break its self when it gets to the end.
@richardbohlingsr3490
@richardbohlingsr3490 4 жыл бұрын
Most jobs are dangerous if you don't know your business or are distracted. Training is a smart investment of time. Be safe on the water.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@southjerseysound7340
@southjerseysound7340 4 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt the energy in the cable jumping. I've seen several realitively small lines let go and the damage caused by it astonishing.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@carlseibert9015
@carlseibert9015 3 жыл бұрын
I see you never got a reply from a physicist. I'm just an ignorant guy guessing, but I'd say the issue with the wire vibrating would be velocity. The wire has way, way more mass than a human's head, so it isn't going to slow down if it hits you. For our purposes, the amount of energy the wire carries would be pretty much infinite. Think wire is a sledgehammer and your head is an egg. If the sledgehammer approaches the egg slowly, the egg will gently accelerate and move out of the way unharmed. If the sledgehammer hits the egg at speed, the egg has no choice but to accelerate faster than it can stand and it explodes. I'll bet that you could use a camera set to film in slow motion and some tape hash marks to figure out how far and how fast the wire moves when it wiggles around. Then a doctor or physics person could say how survivable a bump might be..... Or you could just do the watermelon thing. Which sounds kind of fun. I really enjoy your channel.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching Carl. I think you sledge hammer and egg comparison is perfect. That makes wonderful sense. CUOTO
@thomasflores7817
@thomasflores7817 2 жыл бұрын
I read “tripping in a tug boat” And thought something completely different 👅🧠🧚‍♂️
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I am sure you did Thomas. 😂. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
@netltube
@netltube 4 жыл бұрын
great topic, very informative!
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
@matthewbeasley7765
@matthewbeasley7765 3 жыл бұрын
I liked your Detroit diesel music background at the beginning of the video. Getting to be less of that around nowadays.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and Happy New Year Matthew. Things are noisy in the shipyard. CUOTO
@lanksterprice
@lanksterprice 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry there was so much background it was hard to get it..
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
That was my secret way of getting you to watch my content multiple times. Lol. Sorry about the bad audio. I working on improving the situation. Thank you for watching.
@davidkyle5017
@davidkyle5017 4 жыл бұрын
Tim I thought you were gonna play a little Hendrix! God vid! Cheers.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha Good one. Thank you for watching.
@DangerRanger2723
@DangerRanger2723 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jacob!
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video thanks for sharing
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for watching!
@jeffanderson1653
@jeffanderson1653 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting content
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Jeff. Please consider Subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday.
@Honda1k
@Honda1k 4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear those lines taken up
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@marko11kram
@marko11kram 3 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb amature question, but here goes. Why isn't a tow cable or wire greased?
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it is needed (not much chance of chafe). The wire is permeated with anticorrosión stuff. Some offshore boats that do more towing than we do, spray the wire with a biodegradable wirelube. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
@marko11kram
@marko11kram 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimBatSea Ahh, I should have looked before I asked. maybe they use something like: www.jetlube.com/product/marine-wire-rope-hawser-grease-water-resistant-lubricant# Also, maybe some of the stainless steels are less flexible, or have less tensile strength, so are less forgiving to a shock, IDK Thanks for your videos. they are great!
@yepblaze9977
@yepblaze9977 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they got a microphone for that. Hey, closed captions work
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Did you see the commercials on my channel? No? Neither did I. Lol. I'm working on it. Thank you again.
@stephenr6427
@stephenr6427 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim what a great video thanks so much
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@lesterwicklein717
@lesterwicklein717 4 жыл бұрын
good stuff thanks again.
@TimBatSea
@TimBatSea 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
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