The Dark History Behind Surinamese Food

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The Present Past

The Present Past

Күн бұрын

Surinamese food is tasty as hell and very easy to find in Amsterdam. But you'll be hard pressed to find a Surinamese restaurant. There's plenty of Surinamese-Chinese, -Javanese or -Indian places though. So what's going on? In this story I tell you everything about the culinary history of Surinamese food and it's legacy of slavery and forced labour.
Thanks to @ky.kale and @thebraidest for featuring in the show!
00:00 - 01:22 Cultural diversity in Surinamese restaurants
01:22 - 02:20 Modern Surinamese food
02:20 - 03:22 - Spanish-Dutch war
03:22 - 04:12 Dutch entry in Trans-Atlantic Slave trade
04:12 - 05:33 Abolition of Slavery?
05:33 - 08:07 Contract Labour
08:07 - 09:52 Surinamese Diaspora
Sources:
www.slavevoyages.org/
www.statista.com/statistics/1...
www.dbnl.org/tekst/_oso001201...
www.dbnl.org/tekst/_oso001198...
web.archive.org/web/201411131...
werkgroepcaraibischeletteren....
Chan E.S. Choenni - Van Brits-Indisch immigrant tot burger van Suriname
Rosemarijn Hoeft - Passage to Suriname? The Migration of Modes of Resistance by Asian Contract Laborers
Drs. H.K. Patmo-Mingoen - De Javaans-Surinaamse keuken en haar betekenis in de volkscultuur
Hans Ramsoedh - Van samenleving in een grensgebied naar integratie in Suriname
Kwakoe, Baba & Mai - Revisiting Dutch Colonialism in Suriname
G.D. van Wengen - Javanen in Suriname
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@danieldecorentin4100
@danieldecorentin4100 Жыл бұрын
Not Indian, but Hindostani. And they are not all hindu. You’re mixing up religious terms with ethnic ones.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ Жыл бұрын
You’re right! Census data and English terms are not very clear in this regard.
@williamadamsjap
@williamadamsjap Жыл бұрын
at the time India was called Hindustan, it was nothing to do with religion, even Pakistan was part of Hindustan at the time.........
@-haclong2366
@-haclong2366 Жыл бұрын
Hindustan is an official alternative name of India together with India and Bharat.
@gumnaamaadmi007
@gumnaamaadmi007 Жыл бұрын
And you are mixing up linguistic terms with ethnic ones. Never a good thing to correct someone's mistake with a mistake of your own. Hindustani(NOT Hindostani) is the term given to the language that is a mix of Hindi and Urdu. If you have reservations about calling the people who were brought over to these areas as Indian, just call them people of S Asian origin, like the many 'white media' houses of the west do.
@danieldecorentin4100
@danieldecorentin4100 Жыл бұрын
@@gumnaamaadmi007, what do you mean? The descendants of these migrants have merged into an ethnic category in Suriname. This has nothing to do with the way these terms are used in other parts of the world, but are specific to Suriname. So the ethnonym is Hindostani, referring to an ethnic category including religious and linguistic differences. If you are some sort of expert of this matter and know otherwise, please enlighten me.
@Rocky-mn4eu
@Rocky-mn4eu Жыл бұрын
This video is very well done. I was born and grew up in the United States, but the rest of my family is from Suriname. Growing up, I always had a hard time explaining Suriname to people, because I am Indian, not Native American, but people are mind blown when I tell them my family is from South America and we speak Dutch instead of Spanish. We do call ourselves Hindustani when speaking dutch. It’s how you identify yourself as Indian. Fun little fact, when I speak dutch, it has a Surinamese American blend to it.
@apeman9238
@apeman9238 Жыл бұрын
I see that you are hindostani like me (also from Suriname🇸🇷). I must educate you on somthing. We hindostanis here in Suriname do not call ourselfs indian. We call ourselfs Surinamese. Hindostani is the name of our etnicity, Sarnami is the name of our language.
@mikaylavlijter7045
@mikaylavlijter7045 Жыл бұрын
Same my dads from su and decided to move to the us. Now i sound like a white mom in a taco bell to dutch people..
@ChefMireilleGKT
@ChefMireilleGKT 9 ай бұрын
I have the same problem. I have even met other South Americans here in USA who have never heard of Suriname. When I tell them my family is Indian, Javanese and black - but all Surinamese - it just confuses them on a whole other level. My half black half Hindustani grandfather had 25 children and they intermarried into every part of Surinamese society :)
@Chucosan
@Chucosan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing anything featuring Suriname in English! As an American with Surinamese roots it’s always a treat!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure :)
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes Жыл бұрын
This video was great, and it was also a good intro for my kids to learn this history. I haven't had much Surnamese food since moving to the Netherlands. I should really have it more often. Also, I didn't realize you can get Indian naan at some Surinamese restaurants!
@koenw
@koenw Жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@rocketGimbal
@rocketGimbal Жыл бұрын
Whoa its you, nice!
@traplover6357
@traplover6357 Жыл бұрын
Everyone visiting older videos after that Johnny Harris critique. Nice
@kykale
@kykale Жыл бұрын
When foreigners come to NL I recommend them to cuisine that isn't as globally widespread, such as Surinames and Indonesian food. And if I'm eating with them I also tell the history of the country and the cuisine.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ Жыл бұрын
Cool to see you found my content!
@-haclong2366
@-haclong2366 Жыл бұрын
My issue with the term "Javanese" is that in the Netherlands it only means "Javanese-Surinamese", my step-mother is actually from Java and a Surinamese Javanese person once got angry at her because she called herself "Javanese" which the Surinamese Javanese woman got angry at her because "no, you're Indonesian, we're Javanese", meaning that the term has been completely divorced from the island itself.
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
Javanese Surinamese are misbehaved and disrespectful. I agree as I've had the same experience wt Javanese-Surinamese many times. I add that Javanese Surinamese are aggressive self-victimising hooligans and their 'culture' has nothing to do with Indonesia or Java.. it's sad how they call themselves Javanese in an almost Supremacist fashion. A very aggressive and rather disturbing form of Cultural appropriation. One side of my family is Hakka Chinese from Suriname, for example. They don't feel the need to emphasize on 'colonialism' or their 'suffering' in the 18th century or their cultural 'uniqueness'. In the way some Javanese-Surinamese are constantly seeking Political and Media attention with their bs. It's quite disrespectful and insane how Javanese-Surinamese behave imo.
@NateVDZ
@NateVDZ Жыл бұрын
I think most Dutch people including the ones of Surinamese background do understand the term _"Javanese"_ and that the Javanese Surinamese lady was just making a fool out of herself.
@kc4276
@kc4276 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being from India and hearing what the natives of America are called.
@SheldonY14
@SheldonY14 Жыл бұрын
I understand why they're doing this though. Dutch people tend to lump them with Indonesians, but they feel Surinamese inside. So they want to emphasize that they're Surinamese first or Javanese (because that term is more used to refer to the Javanese-Surinamese). However there is no reason for the woman to get mad or angry tho.
@semdonk6593
@semdonk6593 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had an experience with a woman like that I live in a Javanese-Surinamese village and these people are the nicest people I've met in my life that woman was just a crazy exception.
@FUNNYCREW80
@FUNNYCREW80 Жыл бұрын
i have just found this video and I am so happy. I am Indonesian, however my mothers father was the Son of a Surinamese Dutch Soldier during WW2. When the Dutch were fighting to keep ahold of the Dutch East Indies, which is now just Indonesia, my great grandfather was deployed to Indonesia, where he met my great grandma. They had a kid, my grandad, but my greatgrandad had to return to Holland after the war ended, leaving his new Indo/Surinamese son. All my grandads life he did not know his father, and my mother did not know her grandmother. Thanks for telling this story as it seems that this is hugely overlooked. U gained a new sub
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Жыл бұрын
The Dutch be like: Sugar Spice And everything hard labor *These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect little colony* Also, Java isn't the most populous province. It's definitely the most populous ISLAND within Indonesia, but Java itself has four administrative provinces (Banten, West Java, East Java, and Central Java) and two special regions (Yogyakarta and Jakarta)
@benoitbvg2888
@benoitbvg2888 Жыл бұрын
"I met a guy called Risky on the internet and decided to invite him to the restaurant" You know how to live, sir.
@gira4664
@gira4664 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Paramaribo Suriname for three years and compares to the rest of South America it feels like a slice of asia got airdropped in South America. The food was definitely a megamix of foods from all over the planet.
@namelastname9928
@namelastname9928 Жыл бұрын
I'm Trinidadian, so we learnt all about indentured servitude after slavery in primary school social studies and history, having gone through that process as well. They (being the British in our case) also promised the Indian (from the subcontinent, we tend to refer to the First Peoples by the term Amerindian as you do in the census part of the video) workers land for their work, and a guaranteed sailing back after a certain period of time. Trinidad and Tobago changed hands at least 33 times during the colonial period, which means we had quite a few influences to pull from - Spanish, French, Dutch, New Courland, British, with a lot of workers/plantation owners from all around - China, India, Portugal, Kashmir, Ireland, Venezuela, Africa, Brazil, etc. We have that similar mixed background as well here, it's incredibly diverse here, particularly with food with our own types of curry and roti (goat, duck, chicken, beef, conch, armadillo - called tattoo here - any meat can be curried, really), pelau (rice dish), crab and dumplings, blue food (provisions), fresh and salt water fish dishes, fish broth (pronounced broff for some reason), bake (which is frybread ironically enough), stew chicken, pigeon peas, black pudding, bake and shark, Chinese food (but with our own taste), KFC (believe it or not, completely different taste to the international market, KFC is an institution here in Trinidad and Tobago), oildown, callaloo, pig/oxtail, souse, cow-heel soup, macaroni pie, Syrian/Arabic food, American styled food, Latin American food, chow (which is fruit spiced and seasoned), and the list actually goes on, I'm just putting down what I remember here. I haven't even touched on seasonal food like Indian sweets (not seasonal, but I can only calorically afford to eat so much prasad during Divali!), turkey, ham, garlic pork, pastelles, chow-chow, ginger beer, ponche a creme, sorrel (yes, I'm remmbering these from the lyrics of Trini Christmas is the best, iykyk) for Christmas, Easter (watercress and salmon) and harvest food in Tobago with (if you can get it) babash that will knock you down clean, but wake you up with no hangover whatsoever. There are the street foods and sweets as well: toolum, geera pork, coconut water and jelly, corn soup, hops and pudding/cheese/ham/anything you can put in hops with a red Solo, punches, pacro water, carilie, gyros, roti, oysters with the flambeau, doubles, hot dogs, pizza, bbq pigtail, sada roti and baigan/aloo/tomato choka, aloo/beef/cheese pie, it goes on as well. Almost all of our meat is prepared halal, and we have a very respectful interreligious community here, so vegetarian/vegan food isn't too difficult to get (saheena may be vegan, but damn does it taste good, especially if you ask the doubles man to put saheena crumbs in the doubles), or fish dishes during Lent. In terms of herbs and spices, if it doesn't have chadon beni and pepper (scotch bonnet), I'm not eating it! We like to use green seasoning as well to marinate (we just say season) our meats beforehand, then cook them. All in all, we Trinis like to eat, as we say, better belly buss, than good food go to waste.
@tahirghoerahoe8246
@tahirghoerahoe8246 Жыл бұрын
You should come to suriname and try Indonesian food ,and i want to try doubles and bake n shark
@utkarshyadav2098
@utkarshyadav2098 Жыл бұрын
This is a really thorough list wow! Thank you for sharing.
@ryumii1701
@ryumii1701 Жыл бұрын
China would be proud of this Great Wall of Text
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 Жыл бұрын
I was having an exchange with a trini lady on Facebook and when we mentioned our respective heritages, we started exchanging examples of dishes. It is so interesting how easy it is to bond over food. I think the lady was American. She sent me a recipe for Trini-style moksi-alesi.
@laneythelame
@laneythelame Жыл бұрын
Trini here, love your summary!
@nielsmaaswinkel9940
@nielsmaaswinkel9940 2 жыл бұрын
Insights knowledge dropping yes boy content all day. This makes me think a lot more on where the food actually came from while I’m enjoying it.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy you're enjoying it!
@5skdm
@5skdm Жыл бұрын
As a person who lives in Java, I knew theres gonna be a link with Suriname and Indonesia and some dutch rule in this video. This video is very well done for how much views it has so far, and so its definitely underrated in my book. I hope for success to the creator!
@kykale
@kykale Жыл бұрын
Now I'm in Indonesia, when I talk about Suriname most Indonesians seem to think the whole country speaks Javanese, but it's only a minority, usually the older people. The younger people speak Dutch and Surinamese and the basics of Javanese (cmiiw).
@-haclong2366
@-haclong2366 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, Java during the 19th century isn't Java in the 21st century, culinary traditions may get lost and new traditions are made overtime. Both Nasi Rames in Indonesia and Hairdresser in the Netherlands are all modern inventions. Most culinary "traditions" aren't as old.
@ZAX202
@ZAX202 Жыл бұрын
by 'hairdresser' I think they mean kapsalon, a 'street food' dish invented by a hairdresser. I agree though, cuisine is super dynamic
@DBT1007
@DBT1007 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Like Indian curry for example. It's not that ancient. Potatoes, some chili, tomato originated from the New World. America continent. Obviously from that, we know those foods are actually MODERN FOOD. Early Modern era stretches as far as in 1600s. Some ppl call it Renaissance era. Yes, if u think medieval and modern era are not close, you're kinda wrong. They're "neighbor". After medieval, comes modern era.
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 Жыл бұрын
@@ZAX202 I am proud to say that I had my hair cut by the inventor of this delicacy. When I still had hair....😅
@singaporenoodles7189
@singaporenoodles7189 Жыл бұрын
Finally a historian talking about Suriname , Suriname is a very underrated country full of many cultures it's like the Singapore of south America
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
Singapore LOL I beg you pardon. I was born in Singapore. Singapore is a top-notch modern democracy. And not a 3rd world criminal drugs state like Suriname. The authentic and nyonya fusion cuisine cannot even remotely be compared to the unhygienic rubbish that's sold in Suriname.. Stop your delusions it's an insult.
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
🤣😂😂 canNOT
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
Singapore LOL I beg you pardon. I was born in Singapore. Singapore is a top-notch modern democracy. And not a 3rd world drugs state like Suriname. The authentic and nyonya fusion cuisine cannot even remotely be compared to the unhygienic rubbish that's sold in Suriname.. Stop your delusions it's an insult.
@djplexiglass
@djplexiglass Жыл бұрын
Culturally, yes! Economically, sadly, not...
@queen84sasha
@queen84sasha Жыл бұрын
@@user-be1jx7ty7n hmm not so sure... Singapore is a Microstate whereas Latin America is a continent...Suriname sure is a lot more diverse in terms of tropical diseases and bacteria than Singapore 😬😥
@HyphenatedHistoryUK
@HyphenatedHistoryUK Жыл бұрын
I came from your Johnny Harris video and i love your content. I hope more history outside of the States makes its presence known on KZfaq. You have a new subscriber, thank you for putting this together
@code07sam
@code07sam 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesian in Netherland here. I came from Tiktok. Thanks for the explanation man! Looking forward for your next content. I'm subscribing 💪👍
@kykale
@kykale 2 жыл бұрын
Mantap! Ini Rizky, orang Indo yang di video. Aku juga bikin video tentang sejarah Belanda dan Indonesia. Boleh ngecek channelku.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the history club :)
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you in the Netherlands???? Leave our people alone!! Indonesians violently forced the Dutch to leave. Consequently all Indonesians should show decency enough to leave the Netherlands. Or do you need us to force you out like Sukarno did to our people......? Reminder : you are NOT welcome here⛔⛔⛔
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Жыл бұрын
Suriname fun fact: The country is the home of the famous blue poison dart frog. They are found in patches of forests surrounded by the Sipaliwini Savanna, known in Surinamese Dutch as blauwe pijlgifkikker. The frog is also known by its indigenous Tirio name, okopipi
@Slashplite
@Slashplite Жыл бұрын
thanks Kim
@thelonelyamazonian7039
@thelonelyamazonian7039 Жыл бұрын
And it’s Scientific name is Dendrobates Tinctorius Azureus! 😹😹😹😹😹😹 I used to keep them in my Terrarium alongside the Phyllobates Terribilis, The Golden Poison Frog! You’d actually be pretty surprised what else there is in Suriname, as it’s 95% Rainforest! My Family are from there! 🇸🇷 Peace & Love 💙✌️🇬🇧
@Jblah
@Jblah Жыл бұрын
That frog that keeps babies in its back is also native to surinam
@shredtilyurdead
@shredtilyurdead 16 күн бұрын
Heel mooi gedaan. Thanks very much. Wanneer het verhaal correct en zonder censuur of minimaal verbloeming verteld wordt is dat altijd beste.
@predunatudorgabriel6541
@predunatudorgabriel6541 Жыл бұрын
Great Channel Dude! Love the editing, maybe put a gate on the audio track and watch out for reflections when recording in vlog style. Love the fact that we start to get more european creators talking about european and world stuff from an european perspective. Love from Romania
@Loey89
@Loey89 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love that collabed with Ky and we go to that restaurant often!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
it's a nice restaurant! :)
@Liverpoolfcfever
@Liverpoolfcfever Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the restaurant?
@limiteci8405
@limiteci8405 2 жыл бұрын
Great content man, keep up the good work!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do :)
@ferrousallotrope
@ferrousallotrope Жыл бұрын
I just binged all your videos. You’re doing great keep it up!!!
@tomdoingfunstuff
@tomdoingfunstuff Жыл бұрын
Dude this subject matter and the scripts keep me so engaged, you follow every lead and side story this is so sick and I am so curious I just watched every second of your content after seeing my first video
@Aninkovsky
@Aninkovsky 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, as Javanese myself, i can relate some of Suriname cuisine. In fact I eat Soto (Saoto) this morning as a breakfast, and Pecel (petjil) yesterday also as breakfast.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a great breakfast!
@urbnctrl
@urbnctrl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Saoto is slightly different from Soto. I like to make and eat both! Slmt makan!
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 Жыл бұрын
@@urbnctrl What is the difference? I always thought that 'Sauto' was a 'Surinamese' alternative spelling to the original word 'Soto' and that it stuck because the soup is 'salty' Zout/Sotoe/'😅
@raihansalim6039
@raihansalim6039 Жыл бұрын
Correction for 0:27, Java isn't a province, it's a whole island (or an ethnic group, which is the majority of Indonesia). There are 6 provinces on the island of Java, including the capital city Jakarta. So, it is the most populous island in the world, even there are more people here than in Russia. Splendid video by the way, this is the second video I watched on your channel after your critics on Johnny, also subbing for your video quality. Greetings from Indonesia!
@supersharda
@supersharda Жыл бұрын
Overall a good explanation of how history played out and great use of the world map to give better visuals. I would have liked to hear more commentary from Surinamese people e.g. that Surinamese girl ... Since it's about Suriname 🇸🇷😘
@Enhancedlies
@Enhancedlies Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, i learned a-lot!
@teunvandalen7529
@teunvandalen7529 Жыл бұрын
super interessant, was hier laatst nog over aan het nadenken!
@eva9996
@eva9996 2 жыл бұрын
This was very educational. I hope children in Netherlands learn this in school!!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Recently more about slavery, but contract labour not so much if I recall..
@jantjepengel1227
@jantjepengel1227 2 жыл бұрын
People don t know why we speak dutch
@sriharshacv7760
@sriharshacv7760 Жыл бұрын
You rock man. I came here from your video where you criticized Johnny Harris. I loved that video because you didn't express hate. You just criticized him constructively that he himself took notes. We as a society are increasingly moving away from healthy criticism. It was refreshing to watch your video. The current one is fine too. I belong to a priestly class (not really priests but where priests get picked from) and never had an experience with being exploited (though poor). I am kind of embarrassed that I am learning about the complex history of my society via foreigners. I respect you for your neutral and respectful language when describing other cultures. Wish you a good luck! Btw, is this your primary profession or a hobby?
@doffgdid1151
@doffgdid1151 Жыл бұрын
Well I came here for the video about johnny Harris and umm stayed for the super high quality content, super well produced and interesting as can be, so keep up the good work because your content is just on point
@maxmaxmax616
@maxmaxmax616 Жыл бұрын
Wow just discovered your channel thru watching your critic of Johnny Harris's video. Nice content! bravo!
@cocoaorange1
@cocoaorange1 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and fun to know.
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld Жыл бұрын
I've been to Suriname a couple times. It is definitely a very interesting place, a big mix of people from Java, China, and India, and the Dutch. Everybody could speak Dutch, and I didn't find anyone that couldn't speak English. And there are so many Chinese businesses around. The people are super friendly also, and lots of choices of foods. You could find Chinese restaurants that made you feel like you are the only person that isn't Chinese. I remember hanging around the popular bar and not many people talk to you much, but once they hear you speak they know (In am American), they start giving you a lot of attention. They probably thought I was just a local. Oh, also several neighborhoods of Brazilians, but I didn't see many in the touristy areas.
@dwilbank
@dwilbank Жыл бұрын
nice edit job!
@saurabhupadhyay4659
@saurabhupadhyay4659 Жыл бұрын
You're such an underrrated channel! kudos to you for your amazing work!
@aotoda486
@aotoda486 Жыл бұрын
0:27 Java is the most populous island* not province. The island is composed of 4 provinces it's so populated. It's the most populated island in the world in fact, the small island alone being more populated than all of Russia :)
@ashieskisoensingh2599
@ashieskisoensingh2599 7 ай бұрын
Pom was an old Jewish dish without meat that was perfected in Suriname by adding different kinds of (smoked) meat. The dish itself was introduced in Suriname by the Jewish people.
@virtual30
@virtual30 Жыл бұрын
WOW 10 out of 10! WELL explained!! Finally I am proud about my ASIAN heritage being told VERY well!! Thank you for the vid! Its pity Dutch school don't tell this at school .
@thijsbaarda
@thijsbaarda Жыл бұрын
Been living in Australia for over a decade, besides my family and being able to ride my bike everywhere, Surinamese food is one of the things I miss the most. I knew a little bit about the reason behind the diversity, but you explain it all very well. Thanks for the history lesson.
@utubeistehsux
@utubeistehsux Жыл бұрын
The Netherlands paid BILLIONS in reparations to Suriname when it went independent. You should at least include that, because the British never paid anything.
@sirihsirih4938
@sirihsirih4938 Жыл бұрын
They did we know. And now these Suriname try to extort the Dutch with this anticolonial mental abuse.
@mikepictor
@mikepictor 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I have only barely tasted Surinamese food since moving here, but I want to try more of it.
@brendank2197
@brendank2197 2 жыл бұрын
How interesting! When I go to Amsterdam in the summer I will try to go to one of these restaurants!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Sure do!
@jonathanemslander6896
@jonathanemslander6896 2 жыл бұрын
Heel interessant 🧐! I like learning about the Netherlands and it’s former colonies. Dankjewel voor een goede video.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Er komt snel meer aan :)
@itamar757
@itamar757 Жыл бұрын
Dude I applaud you. I can really see the time and effort. It speaks highly of the Netherlands in general and you in particular. How you own up to the dark past without self loathing and hypocritical anachronistic l double standards. When I visited Amsterdam ( to see the Museums... most of the time) I saw all of these Surinamese restaurants that puzzled me. So thank you for answering a question I never asked. Also in the Reikmuseum they had a similar tone to yours. Respect from Tel Aviv
@tieme.w
@tieme.w Жыл бұрын
Hey man goede video! Vooral met die kaartannimaties! Je kan misschien ook inspiratie opdoen van NOS op 3 of Geo History!
@gumnaamaadmi007
@gumnaamaadmi007 Жыл бұрын
Even the brits brought in slaves from what are the modern states of UP and Bihar in India as late as the 19th century to the Caribbean. So much for abolishing slavery. Scottish landlords, with their whips in hand, were waiting for them when they landed. The Scots were so good at ensuring that a running supply of slaves was needed, that the average expectancy of an Indian slave was 5 years - in this time, they were worked to death while their womenfolk were abused.
@danieldecorentin4100
@danieldecorentin4100 Жыл бұрын
None of us were ever slaves. Maybe you should get your facts straight.
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
Those are all hearsay bs about things that happened too long ago for anyone to remember. I don't hear any Dutch people cry about the Protestants persecutions by Roman Catholics which was a full-blown genocide. In all sincerity my family are Hakka Chinese from Suriname and also brought there as 'contract laborers' somewhere in the 19th century. But ffs none of us whines about whatever the Dutch did in the 18/19th century. Theyre more worried about the current situation. Widespread drugs and criminality. And my Chinese Peranakan family fled Indonesia after 'independence' because Indonesia became a genocidal Military Dictatorship under Sukarno and Suharto. All is in the eye of the beholder. If Javanese/Surinamese in the Netherlands feel like they are victims of history. I think they should realize everyone is. Instead they should be grateful for what they have and take every economic and educational opportunity they can get in the Netherlands and use it in a positive way. Instead of radicalising and spreading anti-dutch hate theories/ propaganda like THIS.
@IErfanCN
@IErfanCN 4 ай бұрын
Nice info
@ericcarabetta1161
@ericcarabetta1161 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately as a typical American I had no idea Surinamese food even existed, but of course it does. All the cuisines here are just so homogenized and watered down, you have to really seek out certain neighborhoods and know what you're looking for to be able to find this kind of exotic cooking, it's all Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, and the occasional Ethiopian restaurant.
@samsfk4877
@samsfk4877 2 жыл бұрын
Geweldige editing in deze video, er zit duidelijk super veel werk in en het verdient meer aandacht, zeker in Nederland.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dank!
@bluesbattle
@bluesbattle Жыл бұрын
Please do a video (or a series) on the Dutch East Indies!
@reduxzy9268
@reduxzy9268 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, bud. A tiny correction, just a tiny, Java is an Island not a province of itself. But that's a good video
@JordanVanRyn
@JordanVanRyn Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t know all of that. It’s really interesting and I’ve never tried Javanese food before. I hope I get to try some when I visit Amsterdam.
@VictoriaMeira7
@VictoriaMeira7 Жыл бұрын
3:00 ahhh so that's how "de zilvervloot" relates to get Leids ontzet. I always thought it was a weird addition to the songs we sang at school for the 3rd of October
@immaculatecorrection
@immaculatecorrection Жыл бұрын
this video taught me things. thanks
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ Жыл бұрын
My pleasure ❤️
@olivergraham3233
@olivergraham3233 Жыл бұрын
Wow didn't know about the contract workers getting treated almost as badly as slaves. Thanks for the video!
@giacomoboffi9394
@giacomoboffi9394 Жыл бұрын
Possibly worse, 'cause you know, your slaves are capital investments.
@kamula992
@kamula992 Жыл бұрын
Just a correction to what you said 29 seconds in, Java is not a province of Indonesia but instead is an island home to 6 different provinces (Banten, DKI Jakarta, West Java, Central Java, SI Yogykarta and East Java.) You're right that its the most populated island though.
@bgsash242
@bgsash242 Жыл бұрын
00:28 the name of Java is not refer to certain province, but an island, the most populous island in indonesia with 130 million people. It's consists of 4 provinces and 2 special regions, the province banten, west java, central java, east java, and special region of jakarta and jogjakarta.
@twanhams2635
@twanhams2635 Жыл бұрын
0:15 don't you throw shade against stamppot boerenkool met rookworst, with gravy it's pretty delicious.
@situationsixtynine8743
@situationsixtynine8743 7 ай бұрын
Tell them why they went for indentured servants? It's a critical part of it, it shaped the future of the nation.
@zala2056
@zala2056 2 жыл бұрын
Safe to say ur my favorite youtuber 😎
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
😍
@DragonYeng
@DragonYeng Жыл бұрын
You deserve more views
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ Жыл бұрын
All in due time :)
@SlapLegend96
@SlapLegend96 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! Now i now a little more of my roots. Maybe its time for me to go Java.
@LAKD
@LAKD Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! As a Dutch half Surinamese I still managed to learn a lot
@Zilero
@Zilero 2 жыл бұрын
heel interessant
@UniverseorBust
@UniverseorBust Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and clearly can see that a lot of work went into it. Love all the maps animations 😊 We are in Indonesia now and have been noticing Dutch influences, especially when we chat with locals and Dutch nomads living here.
@PockASqueeno
@PockASqueeno Жыл бұрын
Now I want to try some Surinamese food, but I’m American, and we don’t have any Surinamese restaurants here. 😢 Speaking of which, American food is also very culturally rich…our cuisine is influenced by Italian, Mexican, Chinese, and African (soul) food. I wonder whether Surinamese or American cuisine is more culturally rich…
@Jblah
@Jblah Жыл бұрын
There are some surinam restaurants in the usa
@gabkikop6949
@gabkikop6949 Жыл бұрын
One of the few Surinamese dishes? What about sopropo, pepre watra, antruwa, pastei, kwie kwie... There is so much more then Javanese and Hindustani food....
@suzy5166
@suzy5166 Жыл бұрын
omg... i almost cry... Never before i know about the dark history! 😭
@DJosAmmel
@DJosAmmel Жыл бұрын
This is impressively honest. People who've never lived in the Netherlands have no idea how controversial it can be to even talk about such things there (much like in the USA).
@queen84sasha
@queen84sasha Жыл бұрын
How old are you? Cause you sound so naive. Controversial is when they limit your freedom of speech and lock you up in jail for trying to address Human rights abuses. This is what happens in Indonesia in fact. I'm not sure what you find controversial but rest assured. There's very little that is controversial in the Netherlands. LOLLL
@atomananas1419
@atomananas1419 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what the restaurant is called or are there any recommendations for surinamese restaurants? I'll visit Amsterdam next week.
@MartijnPennings
@MartijnPennings 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the Dutch government promised cheap workers from other countries good jobs and conditions and didn't live up to the expectations? Reminds me of something. I guess that's how the Netherlands also became a multi-cultural society.
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Some things don't really change..
@melissalubbe8600
@melissalubbe8600 Жыл бұрын
I live in South Africa and we have a similar culinary mix in the Cape-Malay food which is the result of the influence of historic Malay slaves on the food.
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
You mean Malay culture. There are no more Malaysian slaves in South Africa. They were freed from 'slavery'. Stop calling people slaves at random. 🤦‍♀️
@melissalubbe8600
@melissalubbe8600 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vv7rr3ls9i apologies I did not mean currently, I meant historically but should have been clearer
@kykale
@kykale Жыл бұрын
Like bobotie and sosatie? The Cape accent in Afrikaans to me sounds very interesting because it kinda reminds me of how Surinamese speak Dutch.
@slevewslebew6491
@slevewslebew6491 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vv7rr3ls9i well Malay not only came from Malaysia they also in Indonesia and Indonesia is the most populated Malay people in south east asia
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
@@slevewslebew6491 Malay are from Sumatra, Riau, Borneo, Brunei until Southern Thailand etc... Your point being? Malay are a minority in Indonesia. The majority in Indonesia are Javanese and Sundanese..
@m.h.a.2404
@m.h.a.2404 Жыл бұрын
Lol kompeni pronunciation of java is "yava" while we pronounce it jawa
@jinnilovely5573
@jinnilovely5573 8 ай бұрын
Bakabana or Pisang goreng + bumbu kacang is very commont every street in Indonesia ..Evey fry food usually eat with sambal and bumbu jacang
@TheSuperkolor
@TheSuperkolor 6 ай бұрын
no
@jinnilovely5573
@jinnilovely5573 6 ай бұрын
@@TheSuperkolor come to Indonesia 1st , you will see the fact
@ayikaryoni6480
@ayikaryoni6480 Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll make a video a bout Dutch Colonialism in the future.
@ReepRutger
@ReepRutger 2 жыл бұрын
this video made me super hungry 😅
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by the surinamese food fusion association 😄
@theShadeslayer
@theShadeslayer Жыл бұрын
this vid is high quality dude!
@Ronin969
@Ronin969 Жыл бұрын
Never trust anyone talking about "the dark history of _____" to know anything about history. If they did they'd know it's ALL, SO dark that any luminescence deserves to be celebrated.
@basketballerzz
@basketballerzz Жыл бұрын
Whats the name of the restaurant? Would like to go there!
@gandalfgreyhame3425
@gandalfgreyhame3425 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best Dutch soccer players are Surinamese. Sergino Dest, born in the Netherlands of an American-Surinamese father (former serviceman) and a Dutch mother, plays for the USMNT
@Marlontje.
@Marlontje. 5 ай бұрын
Sergino Dest is somewhere in my top 10000000 😂😂😂 lol my guy said best dutch player and then mentioned Dest 😂 come on man
@abdulazizclare9545
@abdulazizclare9545 5 ай бұрын
This took place in the Caribbean long before South America. West Indian food is rich mix we are ground zero of the Colombian exchange. Very similar food to Suriname but not Indonesian or Javan but all the others.
@63bananabread
@63bananabread 5 ай бұрын
what is the restaurant in the video? name/location ?
@Amitdas-gk2it
@Amitdas-gk2it Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@_Wyu_
@_Wyu_ Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that a large majority (80-90%) of slaves were sold by the local people and not actually abducted by the traders themselves.
@Cupapet93
@Cupapet93 Жыл бұрын
0:28 java is an island not a province. but anyway awesome work,,
@mikecaf4538
@mikecaf4538 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I am from Suriname and this is one of the most realistic and objective takes of my country's history. Very good video.
@oswjim
@oswjim Жыл бұрын
I'm originally from Venezuela, and you just don't imagine how "alien" are for us countries like Suriname, Guyana or French Guyana being so relatively close -- this can also be applied to Trinidad and Tobago -- whereas not such for Aruba or Curacao
@stijnnijssen2974
@stijnnijssen2974 2 жыл бұрын
Spicy content 🌶🌶
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Everything to wet your appetite
@ageoflove1980
@ageoflove1980 Жыл бұрын
Id say the more positive message here is: No matter what happened, how you look or where you from, who was right and who was wrong, we all enjoy great food all the same together. And what better way to celebrate this to have some Indonesian, Chinese, Creole and Hindustani food in a Surinamese restaurant in Amsterdam in 2022?!
@josecarloscosta5220
@josecarloscosta5220 Жыл бұрын
In 16th century the Ducth occupied SãoTome and Luanda in Angola, the main source of slaves for Brazil, way more than Gold Coast (Elmina). You should explore that.
@freedom.nxumalo743
@freedom.nxumalo743 7 ай бұрын
First time hearing about this country
@Samuel33777
@Samuel33777 Жыл бұрын
The something strange going on ... And that's is they always leave the original people out of Suriname history( the aruakkas.) We could not be in slaved. That's why they brought creole and others to be a slave. We the indians helpt the slaves Escape.
@hermbiov7396
@hermbiov7396 Жыл бұрын
And also capture and return slaves to their owners
@Samuel33777
@Samuel33777 Жыл бұрын
@@hermbiov7396 that too.. and we had slaves .. to talk about the dark parts of history .. the africans sold there own peoples. And the Africans were slaves for not .. 100 not 200 not 300 but 400 years ..and other people had to help free them. The truth is hard
@CombinedArmsWarfare
@CombinedArmsWarfare Жыл бұрын
3:33 "and traffic people back to their colonies in brazil" - cue sick cyberpunk music
@niteowl9491
@niteowl9491 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening! I'd noticed the prevalence of Surinamese food combined with other cuisines in NL and wondered about it.
@wenderis
@wenderis Жыл бұрын
Lately (read: the past 3-5 years or so), I've seen many Dutch still trying to blur their own history. Altho most of the ones that committed the crimes are long dead. So bizzare. possession This is a video about food history! Yes, the vid is also subtly (and not too subtle in some part) owning up to his nations history, but first and foremost its about food! Those two beautiful friends of his captured it the best, SPANG!
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
@user-vv7rr3ls9i Жыл бұрын
Got a more urgent question. When can we expect the Indonesian government to come clean about their genocides and human rights abuses in recent decades? Suharto is long dead.. What's the problem? What do you have to hide..🤷‍♀️
@zainaireland452
@zainaireland452 10 ай бұрын
The food is so so good ❤❤❤
@NateVDZ
@NateVDZ Жыл бұрын
Kinda nitpicky, but I didn't like how you kept using a modern-day world map with modern-day borders throughout the video. For example arround 6:10 you said _"India"_ whilst highlighting the borders of modern-day India eventhough the Hindustani people at that time came from the British Raj which was much bigger before it was split up into the independent countries we now know today. But overall great video! Your Johnny Harris video brought me here and I'm looking forward for your future content since I just subbed. Ga zo door man!
@ThePresentPast_
@ThePresentPast_ Жыл бұрын
Completely right. As a solo creator I’m gonna make mistakes. But trying to improve every vid!
@aotoda486
@aotoda486 Жыл бұрын
4:08 this number represents over five-and-a-half hundred* thousand, or over half a million
@Noinoanoe
@Noinoanoe Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the Suriname restaurant?
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