Thank you History Profiles for your great narration. Look forward to your next upload! Good night

I love that you do collabs! It widens the range of the channels, one can learn more than what we probably would with only one person working on here. And it always makes me look forward to you narrating again.

I watch the adverts because I think you guys deserve all your earnings.

@@englishcountrylife3805 Same here, that's why I relisten their videos too, for more ads. They truly deserve it! Stay safe English Country Life

I'm confused. Why are the french names said in a Spanish pronunciation? Really heavy and thick

Quite. Anne Boleyn was accused of 'bewitching' Henry VIII as well.

That’s patriarchy for ya

Welcome to HIS-tory

Men till this day 😆

@@solcorvinusoftiktok9907 lol shut up with your patriarchy bs

probably not completely unexpected though

You mean today? mhmm

At least she wasn't beheaded🤷🏾‍♀️

That’s what women do to their husbands today when they file for divorce and already have a new man

Sweet deal, really. Ladies didn't have to do the work of a common nun. And she had money. Even then, she may not havr taken vows.

I came down here for this comment

Hahaha, I know .... Very Inspector Clouseau ....

Omg. That is the best way to put it! I also came down here for a comment on that pronunciation. It was driving me a little bit crazy

Dude my heart! 🤣

I have a montespan counter 😆

I doubt many wanted to say no, tbh...

Some women didn’t say no and others fought tooth and nail to reach that spot. It was a way to have power. Men achieved that power through was and women through who’s mistress they became

Hell, King James changed the wording of the Bible over a Gypsy woman...

@@helenturner3657 fyi g*psy is a slur but it is the term that would have been used at the time.

@@helenturner3657 what? Can you explain?

*: I "it is likely" that satanic rituals bewitched the king? This is maily a later added smear campain. Please keep this a channel of facts SMH

Oh wow. Yes I will come also to your channel. Good job on this story

I know right?! She can't have just been that smart, she had to have had a deal with the devil. Typical.

She was hardly at the bottom of society, in the first place.

Did I ever say she was ?

Smart and/or intelligent women get looked over all the time even to this day...she did what worked well for her.

Nah, impossible. Had to be the devil

If he liked you it was basically suicide to refuse...

Her story is very similar to Lady Castlemaine’s - except Charles II was a far kinder man.

@@heyyyguuurl Then you'd better be very good and very intelligent, otherwise your place will be taken by another. Montespan eventually fell and was never queen, just a royal mistress and her old age was much less glamorous.

my mother and aunt have read those novels growing up

The movie starring michelle mercier was also pretty good

I have the entire series to date, but the final novel may never be published since the author died a couple of years ago. It's my favourite series.

Thank you for the recommendation.

@@michelepineau9657 Could you possibly help, please. I read up to her time among the indigenous people of North America/Canada. Did she die there or did she and her husband ever return to France?

or when they do black magic rituals

I now have my very new favourite way to spell "Louis", thanks!!

His hair is always so awful. LOL

Who said the King was cool? The mistress actively sought repentance, which was denied since she was still living a publicly sinful life. Nowhere does it state the King sought repentance.

​@@Luigiawesome13 the king was cool

il a dead ça

Actually since marrying a Parisian it has been made clear to me that the English have a lot of trouble pronouncing French unless they have lived there or learned well from native French. It is to do with the inflections the English put on words when the pronounce them. We do the same with Latin, apparently! I can’t win…

His prononciation is awful !!! Ta quoi dans les oreilles ?

@@mortenmoicmoigladys1236 Ce que j’ai dans les oreilles, c’est une bande d’anglophones qui, pour la plupart, ne font même pas l’effort d’essayer de parler un peu français malgré le fait que ce soit un cour de langue seconde OBLIGATOIRE. Les rare qui s’y essaie massacre tellement la prononciation qu’on ne comprend qu’un mot sur cinq et encore. So much for an official bilingual country. Alors oui, si un anglophones fait l’effort d’essayer de prononcer un nom français correctement et qu’on arrive à le comprendre, je considère qu'il se débrouille bien. Apprendre une autre langue est difficile. Surtout quand on est pas entouré de personnes dont c’est la langue maternelle. Mon commentaire original est un compliment et n’a pour but que d’encourager un créateur qui, de toutes évidence, met beaucoup de temps et d’effort dans la création de ses vidéos. Les critiques non constructive n’apportent absolument rien de bénéfiques à qui que ce soit. Si tu n’as rien de gentil ou d’utile à dire, je te suggère de ne pas commenter. Tu as droit à ton opinion, mais tu n’est pas obligée de la partager. La plupart des gens qui commentent ne cherche pas à déclencher des guerres et des disputes dans l’espace commentaire.

Why didn't the French just speak english in the first place? It would've been easier for all of us!

Especially during the 1600’s...By this time, you can find “black masses” and the overall worship of an almighty cruel deity in just about every kingdom. Let us not forget Sabbatai Zevi, and how he singlehandedly corrupted nearly half the global Jewish population, specifically that in the year 1666.

Right! 😒 Wtf

Lol Ya ..... right ?

Cagliostro, Compte St Germain and Casanova made a handsome living selling occultism to 18th century nobles!

@Trey Stephens No, that is something that came much later. Sabbateanism is what you would refer to it as, and it's basic purpose was to commit as much sin as possible, so that one may "bring themselves closer to redemption and hasten the coming of God"... It's creator, Sabbatai Zevi, even so much as proclaimed himself as the Jewish Messiah (in the year 1666), invoking much disdain from the Orthodoxy at the time..

🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is my favorite comment.

I agree! Nothing to see here....🤭

Yes exactly

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That was a good show

Yay looks like I found something new to watch!^^

Versailles was a great representation of Louis life I thought. I wish they would have continued into Louis the fifteenths reign with Madame depompador and his sister mistresses before her and of course dubarry..and then Into Louis the sixteenth and Marie Antoinette and even the revolution and when Napoleon stayed at Versailles ..Josephine had Marie Antoinettes old rooms and she said they were haunted by Marie Antoinette wanting her out of there ..

It was the correct pronunciation of the name..have you ever heard a native french speaker..there is a lot of spit involved in that language

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French is very difficult lol.

I couldn't agree more 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@@Toyos-yk3ri Ahh - comci, comca (I've probably butchered the spelling there).

That’s awesome

U even kinda look alike...

Cool👍❤️

VintageGlaze so true they resemble each other a lot 😂

Your so full of shit........ Yeah right.......... Im batman i just found out the earth is flat too i swear....

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This woman is way more complex than that. She used nothing but her determination, intelligence and amazing fortitude to gain power, prestige and fortune. The very best part is when she got older and craved the quieter life, she stepped back. She got a great deal as she doesn’t have to deal with an old bastard like the King! She lived more freely and used her wealth to found institutions that served the poor and needy. She’s a hero.

@@crunchy3771 I don’t think she was a hero. I think she was trying to buy her way to forgiveness of a guilty conscience.

@@tfeya777 she wasn't lol she was desprate for another woman's man. She's gross.

He probably was a jealous gay man

It all goes back to Adam and Eve. Adam blamed Eve ' The woman, that YOu gave me, she made me do it" Then she said " Satan made me do it *Lucifer* and she was correct he did. He knew how to wind her around to another kind of thinking. Yet all the time he knew better and it would end up in death, *physical, and even worse, at that time in history* and so being kicked out of the Garden Of Eden" and pain in childbirth and men /women working until the death." Under sweat of their brow" Satan does not always need to work. Satan hires in any way possible those who will do his bidding. His words are sweet as honey, and yet will kill with the being way too sweet. It all winds back to the beginning of time. Yet the woman was part of the man taken from his body, She was from the rib of man. Jesus never treated women second class though and was trying to teach men how to treat them equally

Excuse me but as a French person, pronunciation was awful...

Great video content indeed, but you clearly don't speak French...

@@enlilw-l2 Yes, gave me a headache. Better if he didn't try so hard to "sound French". Anyway, it's a free planet and I'm not French. 😊

@@chicawhappa Of course it's a free planet, but when you make a French history documentary you should at least learn how to pronounce what you're talking about if you want to sound french. Or pronounce these names with your native language accent, it would have been better. It sounds like he's trying to speak Italian to me, we don't roll R's like that 🤔

The French pronunciations were physically painful. Would have been better to just Anglicize them, instead of butchering every third word.

Her power was entirely linked to the king. The moment she fell from favor, she lost everything and faded in the background forever, like she once did to La Vallière. What goes around comes around.

@@alrune8 Her legitimized children went on to marry into other nobility and royalty. The royal families of Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, and Portugal descend from her. "Lost everything" is a stretch. Plus, she was still wealthy enough to be charitable at the end of her life.

@@lebou9540 Indeed, but she no longer had the influence and power she once had. Her children are a whole different subject since they were legitimized.

@@alrune8 I see but her children were an extension of her influence. That the King legitimized them and made sure they were set up well to carry on his legacy (and even considered her sons for the line of succession to France had his great-grandson not succeeded the throne) shows the power she had over that situation. The "Affair of the Poisons" was basically a conspiracy against her. In the end, she won and so did the King's second wife.

​@@lebou9540 She would have won if Madame de Maintenon didn't exist. She still fell from grace and, despite all the rest, she sill had to recoil and fade in the background whereas Mme de Maintenon became the de facto new queen after the queen's death. Plus, Madame de Montespan's political power was REALLY limited since she didn't care much for it. She was way too frivolous and whimsical to have any bearing on geopolitics or anything serious of the sort. Her influence was much more on the arts and social mores at court than anything else.

@Barbie Blues There was NO position of "Official Mistress".

@@fan2jnrc There was, there were official rules the mistress had to follow and there were rooms specifically for the holder of the title, just above the King's quarters (or below I forget haha)

@@fan2jnrc are you serious? There was an absolute position for the king's mistress and she had more pull then any other woman at court, generally including the queen..marie antoinette had so much pull at court because her husband had no mistress...these women led some of the most interesting lives in history.

Delila Sloan the mistress generally had more pull than the queen? why, because everybody assumed that she who shags the king had more power over him than she who births the king's kids?

@@Ass_of_Amalek Normally wives were selected for political alliances so no love was involved, mistresses were chosen by the king himself and sometimes remained friends after the sexual aspect was over (like madam de pompadour) Now whos opinion do you trust more? A foreign princess who will still have loyalties to her own country or your girlfriend who does not interfere politically? (Some did but many did not).

From what I gathered reading about the affair of poisons was that many of Catherine Monvoisin’s clientele were women of the bourgeois class in abusive marriages that wanted freedom from their husbands. However, France was mostly Catholic and divorces were rarely granted. I may not agree with Catherine’s methods but I understand the desperate situation that some of these women were including madame de Montespan using aphrodisiacs to avoid losing the king’s favor coz it meant having no power and becoming irrelevant.

@@juliie007 Yes, I agree with your sentiment. I have studied royalty and aristocracy quite extensively and I’m convinced it was more dangerous to be a part of the aristocracy than it was to be a peasant in a lot of instances. The stuff they did to each other was mind blowing!!

@Ms Bliss I’m just talking about how treacherous the aristocracy were to each other. It was unreal! Yeah, they definitely led the high life but you could be beheaded at any minute or worse because someone higher up didn’t like the look of you. Also, god help the women being married off as pawns. Crazy. And, say you’re a lady in court, you gotta do whatever a higher up, like a duchess, says to do. No matter what! Like you’re a child and she’s your mother. Just seemed like pure insanity and absolutely fascinating to me!

@Ms Bliss She didn’t kill any babies. Black masses were invented fantasies of priests to scare the populace into piety.

@Ms Bliss this sounds so Intriguing where can I read more about this ??? And seems like a lot of people don’t realize how the occult has always existed among the elite society !!

i think most courts were like that at that time. the king (or in some cases, the queen) was always above standard norms and often had open extramarital sexual relationships....... i think it was actually kind of expected.

Thanks as always!!

@@ForgottenLives Good morning FLives! You are very welcome! Thank you!

Is this on Netflix??

@@donnawalker2107 yes it is

Thanks very much!!

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Dnt be so naïve

I think you're right rumors are often told by women who are trying to compete with said person or a man who can't win her affection.

Also since she was high status was probably spread to soil her chances of advancement

@A. E. Harrison He died for all Our sins mate!

Not necessarily, lots of women who were strong willed have been remembered as heroines. Cleopatra, Elizabeth I, Joan of Arc, etc. Lots of people that didn’t “win” in that historic moment have still managed to tell their stories through other means.

Well yes and no, she's a gold digger but you can still be a smart gold digger who does good things with your money and influence.

@@melikey3758 not really. All we have are writings and stories and they are not from them... it was part of their story. Like Joan of arc.. one of my fav women.. her story was written and told through the Catholic Church. We all know how that ended.. they used her and then accused her of being a witch and burned her. Cleopatra prob had every right to try and kill who she did, but again, her story was written by the “royals” of that time. Sure people who idolizes those women you mentioned told their stories like we do today... but historical written accounts from their point of view are non existent and if they do exist please tell me Simon an read them.. I would love to read them. So again even though some women have “a story” told about them doesn’t mean it is truth and we have no idea of their side because we don’t have any writings from them that I am aware of.. sooo

@@Jaderabbit3485 gold digger.. ha.. I’m not a woman but I could only imagine what kind of life women had back then especially if your not royalty. She did what she had to do with what she had... HER WITS AND A CHARMING PERSONALITY.

@@jasonflorence127 yes, with her wit, charm, and influence she began a relationship with an incredibly powerful man who gifted her with more influence and money she would use later in life. I'm not saying she's not interesting or charming she very likely was and that helped her become head gold digger to the king of France i.e. Official Mistress. I'm not saying she's good or bad, I'm saying that she isn't being vilified as a strong woman, she was vilified because of the position she held that probably spawned jealousy and the ironic blasphemy of being official mistress while still married

Or like someone guilty of doing horrible things so she tried to counterbalance it by doing good deeds. Like Jimmy Savile.

Thanks!!!

The narrator has his own Channel called History Profiles.

Greetings Ma'am x

@@janetcw9808 HELLO 👋🏾🥰

Chronocentric morality doesn't work. It was a completely different era, a completely different time where people were completely different. She did all that. Maybe not to the extent she was accused of, but yes she did partake in Black Masses. Desperate people do desperate things.

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@@applejellypucci hi April, what other channels do you enjoy? I like true crime, have you tried mysterious WV? (West Virginia)

I have done a video on her already!

@@ForgottenLives i thought one of you guys had but couldn't remember. i suppose i coulda just checked-lol- this was a great video btw! xx~ LuAnn

Some of that was because of racism , some USA Black people gave Hispanic names to especially to boys in the 50s to disguise their race. Hispanics were abused a little less than Black people were. French names were popular too but that was a 50s fad .

@@dancingnature That is a *very* astute observation!

And so ironic that some white people; who don’t know names origins, make fun of those names.

A native French speaker in the comments section, Sachae Forest, was complimenting him on his pronunciations. If you're a native French speaker, then please give good reason to refute that compliment.

@@ladyraven3418 I’m not a French native, I’m actually an Italian who studied French and got the Baccalaureate degree. I’m just saying that there are some mispronounced names interfering with the general rythm of the narration, so let’s just chill ✌🏻

Hardly scandalous, as in France it was pretty much an official possition

I'm telling you. I believe that. Things went just *a little too well* for this lady, for her entire life.

Lol, you'd be surprised how vicious women also are when they see a threat. Especially if they saw another woman who is more beautiful and most favoured among them all. Sure men act in a perverted way as usual but women who see other women as a threat would viciously destroy you physically and mentally. So stop glorifying women as if we are saints.

@@stephanielim5544 I know they are and they all your best friend too, my little sister had these as friends too. that hurt me so much she would never believe me she thought I wanted her trash. and they were just that she only had one decent guy and when she found out he was she rid herself of him except the kid only for child suppost

@@stephanielim5544 and why do you think women act that way? You think it would happen if we lived in a vacuum of just us? Probably but to a way lesser extent. Men are the ones who come up with the (damn near impossible) standards all women are supposed to live up to. The toxicity between women that ensues is avoidable but not altogether unexpected in these circumstances.

@@SmartStart24 as a woman we need to take responsibility of our own actions and stop blaming men. You lot always said that we are independent and strong even without men for husbands, so why should we bother of how high mens standards are when they don't even force their standards on us? (And same goes for the men) And by doing that you would willingly destroy another woman's life? Instead of justifying this toxicity why not tell our sisters to grow up and be the strong women that we are claiming to be?

Human, no human is worth all that. Male female is irrelevant. We’re all just people.

I agree. I am having a hard time trying......🤭

Montespan:))

@@andreebesseau6995 good catch

Like Donald Duck.

Beautifully put. I agree with your surmisal. From an Ossie 👇💜🙃

@@cousinsister69 Hi thanks! And blessings from Seattle, USA! 💖🌷👼

Dont forget the poisonned gloves the black masses involving baby sacrifices etc.yes she was interesting.in the worse way

​@@andreebesseau6995 Most historians agree that particular story to be a scandalous lie invented by her political enemies. This was very typical at the time. The one thing a woman truly possessed was her reputation. Rumors and lies about sex, witchcraft, poisoning, etc., were popular ways to destroy a woman's social standing at court, at the very least.

@Strong Woman Yes, Agreed!