The Dark Side of the Moon: analog & digital comparison (CD, SACD, Vinyl, Tape)

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ANA[DIA]LOG

ANA[DIA]LOG

6 жыл бұрын

In this video we explore and compare different digital and analog versions of one of the most famous Pink Floyd's album, the Dark Side of the Moon. In particular we focus on the track 'Money' sourced by:
1990's CD, 2003 anniversary SACD, 2003 anniversary remastered & 1973 original vinyl pressings, XDR - HX Pro cassette tape and reel to reel master tape copy (2 track 15ips)!
(N.B. The actual listening of these versions live, that is reproduced through a Hi-Fi system, is truly incomparable in respect to these digitalized files. The Master Tape copy version is by far the best, although listening to the Hi-Res files the quality is only slightly better. I guess this is the downside of digital audio, conversion and compression processes)
!ATTENTION! - For a better comparison stream or download the high resolution versions (192Khz / 24 bit) of 'Money' of each media following these links:
- CD version:
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- SACD version:
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- Vinyl (2003 version):
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- Vinyl (1973 version):
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- Cassette tape version (XDR - HX pro version):
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- Master tape copy (2 track 15ips, machine 1) version:
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- Master Tape Copy 2 (2 track 15ips, machine 2):
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Music: Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 'Money'
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@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Remember to download all these versions in high resolution (192Khz/24bit) in the video description!
@HASHEAVEN
@HASHEAVEN 5 жыл бұрын
Still all files are digital so can't do much justice to the real analog sound except hearing the coloration of each analog reproduction system and possibly different mastering. Again interesting comparison and I liked SACD the best and cassette was the worst, even 160kbps mp3 sound better than cassette.
@tommyconancoates7097
@tommyconancoates7097 5 жыл бұрын
@@HASHEAVEN sacd sounded the best to me also
@KevinHallSurfing
@KevinHallSurfing 5 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍 Have this album on 8 track. Also Led Zep "1" etc. Must look at getting a player. Luckily they sell refurb kits for the cassettes themselves. The sponge deteriorates etc. Interesting to compare to the old 8 track system, from what I recall was pretty good back in the day with a good player and speaker system.
@juliocesarpereira4325
@juliocesarpereira4325 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I will download them. But, frankly, my perception from this video is that the SACD and the 2003 vinyl are the best. The cassette isn't good, I noticed a change in the level of the channels compared to the other forms of media. And I wasn't impressed by the reel to reel copy at all. I think you're more impressed with with the results of the graphic shows you than what you're really listening. However, I have to listen to the high res files to have a definitive opinion and I'm also aware my age (56) could be affecting my perception. But I have to say, I've listened to this album for years and years, with different versions including the 1973 Brazilian "quadraphonic" cut, but unfortunately not with the type of equipment it was intended for. In fact, I've never seen a quadraphonic stereo piece of equipment.
@trophywolfe
@trophywolfe 5 жыл бұрын
It's 24 bits 192,000 times per second... Grammar is important.
@Kodaigon72
@Kodaigon72 4 жыл бұрын
Timestamps 2:37 1994 CD 5:08 2003 Super Audio CD 7:47 2003 Vinyl LP 10:00 1973 Vinyl LP 12:03 1988 Cassette Tape 14:40 Master Tape Copy
@bobe3250
@bobe3250 4 жыл бұрын
You are great!! Thank you.
@pro100hifi
@pro100hifi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you.
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rods6405
@rods6405 4 жыл бұрын
thanks heaps
@saravananv9375
@saravananv9375 4 жыл бұрын
They all sound same to me!
@StevesStrayStuff
@StevesStrayStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I listened several times and I find the Master tape the absolute best, followed by the 2003 LP. Rock on!
@gigngamer
@gigngamer 4 жыл бұрын
the 2003 LP is Very compress. The volume is just about the same as Master tape but soooooo much compress, bass and guitar are compress and you loss all the soul. For me it's the worst with casette and cd. There is a little bit of attack on the master compression but i not a big fan of the result.... but its still better than the CD or CASETTE
@truthseeker6642
@truthseeker6642 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The 2003 LP does sound better then the other vinyl.
@thedudos
@thedudos 4 жыл бұрын
me too !!
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree.
@wa2368
@wa2368 4 жыл бұрын
Could you tell the difference in a blind test, you blooming liar? We'll include a polygraph with the blind test too, just to be sure.
@billcampbell9949
@billcampbell9949 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank Alan Parsons for the superb engineering on this and all the other music he has touched. A fan for LIFE
@anadialog
@anadialog 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, except for his last album...
@lucasmccarthy9905
@lucasmccarthy9905 2 жыл бұрын
So, the master tape sounds the best to me, and I was impressed by how close the 2003 LP was. However, despite being lower quality, the cassette put a big smile on my face. I think this is a nostalgia thing. The tape effect on the sound is something I haven't heard in years, and it felt like meeting again an old friend.
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait a bit, cassettes are coming back. Some nice players are back on the market !
@SSchithFoo
@SSchithFoo Жыл бұрын
Cassette isnt lower quality, it is the highest quality because mangnetic tape is. For me even with the hisss it sounded bigger.
@FlyingAce1016
@FlyingAce1016 5 жыл бұрын
that master tape sounds INSANE!!!!!!
@dkmi
@dkmi 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. We should all be so lucky to have something like that.
@gracefulmender
@gracefulmender 4 жыл бұрын
@@dkmi I agree. A 192 kHz 24 bit audio file? Count me in, I'm saving that to my phone.
@matthewhetzler4912
@matthewhetzler4912 4 жыл бұрын
Even the coin sound effects sounded better right out of the gate!
@lonestarracing7516
@lonestarracing7516 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the master copy was beyond all the others but the CD was second best in my opinion but hard to tell
@TedRay77
@TedRay77 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, Master Tape was amazing. Even on my K712 Pros the difference was as night and day to the other versions. If you pay extra attention you can also hear the faint buzzing of the motor of the tape machine in the silent parts.
@percy7387
@percy7387 Жыл бұрын
The SACD sounded so different than everything else like the instruments were remixed. The 2003 LP was pretty darn good. I gasped when you produced the master tape it sounds great.
@keithv4452
@keithv4452 Жыл бұрын
SACD is crap, the inherent noise is terrible, so they remix the crap out of everything
@stevengaddis6564
@stevengaddis6564 Жыл бұрын
@@keithv4452 The SACD is good for the 5.1 mix only. If listening in stereo, I opt for a vinyl version.
@dingdong2103
@dingdong2103 Жыл бұрын
@@keithv4452 I remember the first time I listened to a SACD, the signal to noise ratio was at least 30db worse than the cd version. Even at low volumes I could hear background hissing. But that was a mastering issue, the noise you refer to is probably quantization noise which exists above audible band...
@DrDoohickey
@DrDoohickey 13 күн бұрын
1. Vinyl re-issue - good separation, strong, tight bass, best vocals. 2. SACD - Amazing separation of voices, more sibilant, perhaps too much so. 3. Vinyl early pressing - poor bass, vocals weirdly pushed to right channel 4. CD - Not bad, but flatter and duller overall.
@mus1970
@mus1970 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you listen to them back to back I doubt any single version of this milestone album would be less enjoyable than the next... Thank you for all the work and energy that must have gone into creating this - especially that final assembly of the same track switching from version to version was insightful!
@ultraneight
@ultraneight Жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Maybe not so pronounced on youtube but vinyl mastered from tape has a very warm organic sound, not to say that digital doesn't have some benefits.
@melaniezette886
@melaniezette886 Жыл бұрын
LP needs a special mastering.
@BenCabell
@BenCabell 10 ай бұрын
With all due respoect, unless you have exceptionally great hearing if he had not identified what is what 99% could nog guess with any great acuracy?? Analog people always use words like "warm and organic" as they cannot be measured and /or quantified. I grew up in the 70's and it is kind of neat hearing the opening crackels of vinal, it brings back a "warm and organic feeling" but I am not going to try to say analog recording is superior when clearly it is not.
@Pepsidud32
@Pepsidud32 4 ай бұрын
​@@BenCabell I agree that the love for vinyl is something that can't truly be measured with science, and that DSD might be "objectively" better, but if a digital and analog version of the same album are mastered so well it just comes down to which one makes me feel happier. Just hearing some crackle from the vinyl might get me in a better mood, and get me to enjoy it more in my head.
@joncandyfliprecords
@joncandyfliprecords 4 жыл бұрын
I think the SACD gives the best value. If you have a player that handles it, for the low cost, and the outstanding no-loss-in-the-future format you get, the SACD will please almost everyone. Remembering too of course that just about *any* version of this album sounds fantastic - so we really are splitting hairs. 😎💜
@melaniezette886
@melaniezette886 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I never came back to LP after sacd version.
@jwanda10
@jwanda10 5 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting experiment would be to offer the files in random order not labeled. Then we could listen to them blindly. Put up a poll with just the number. Then after a couple of weeks reveal the results. It would be interesting to see if the results were the same if people’s opinions weren’t colored by preconceived notions.
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
True! Will do with a new video.
@stereophotog
@stereophotog 5 жыл бұрын
jwanda10 I agree. The SACD has much better dynamic range than all the other formats.
@Firebrand55
@Firebrand55 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestion. I did this once with 6 famous jazz pianists.........My blind favourite was Oscar Petersen, which I hadn't expected.
@jamiesmith6838
@jamiesmith6838 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That way to eliminate any chance of bias.
@fernandoespinola1758
@fernandoespinola1758 5 жыл бұрын
absoluttly agree
@genedizon6387
@genedizon6387 6 жыл бұрын
Your time and effort are much appreciated. Thank you!
@stevengaddis6564
@stevengaddis6564 Жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed with the quality of the 2003 vinyl overall.
@omenoflaherty1294
@omenoflaherty1294 4 жыл бұрын
The CD and SACD sound so much cleaner and clearer to me.
@stuartdavis5736
@stuartdavis5736 3 жыл бұрын
That it digital sounds tinier not as warm or natural it to crisp in mopinion but you did hear the difference it becomes real evedent when jimmie hendrex is put to that test. Distortion was a big part of his music. Then you can hear part of his music was lost to data compression.
@NatMart9394
@NatMart9394 3 жыл бұрын
Slower.
@henrietafirkova2797
@henrietafirkova2797 3 жыл бұрын
And if that album was recorded now days on proper digital domain rec system it would be so much better and snake oil seller /vinyl propaganda/would be even more laughable then is now
@Gavynnnnn
@Gavynnnnn 3 жыл бұрын
The SACD wins out here because of the sheer instrument tone. Unfortunately that can’t be displayed here because it had to be converted from DSD and it lost all it’s DSD qualities the moment that was done
@Gavynnnnn
@Gavynnnnn 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrietafirkova2797 Right? Vinyl is a joke
@lbm5618
@lbm5618 5 жыл бұрын
The 1973 dynamics blow the remasters away, but the cassette is like hearing the song for the first time even in KZfaq compressed audio. I love dynamics more than I like resolution. Then I hear the reels, and OMG.
@user-xh9rz7rf8l
@user-xh9rz7rf8l 3 жыл бұрын
The 30th anniversary edition is awful!
@edrhinehart
@edrhinehart 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@edrhinehart
@edrhinehart 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to like the cassette but I do. Lol
@dropit7694
@dropit7694 Жыл бұрын
@@user-xh9rz7rf8l You must be tripping on something, the 30th anniversary is one of the best editions available besides a first issue
@naikrosh
@naikrosh 5 жыл бұрын
The Demo at the end with all of the versions together was a great idea.
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BillKinsman
@BillKinsman 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that louder does not mean better!
@paisleepunk
@paisleepunk 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillKinsman True, but you can say the same for quiet!
@mrwilliamefwilson
@mrwilliamefwilson Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thanks for taking the time to put it together, and excellent choice in the sample song!
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 3 жыл бұрын
vynil is so refreshing, tape is smooth, and precise. Others are like a rage.
@Flux799
@Flux799 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the time and effort you take to put this video together with all the sound clips and analysis. You earned a sub! Keep up the great work!
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean!
@CLaudiusClemensJimmy
@CLaudiusClemensJimmy 3 жыл бұрын
you are like the professor that teach us to use our ear better then our head, i couldn't thank you enough for your time!!! God Bless always...
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Claudius!
@sonicyouth29
@sonicyouth29 2 жыл бұрын
No defined number can describe how many times i have listened to this album. Great video ;)
@kencur9690
@kencur9690 3 жыл бұрын
This guy just exudes calm.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
When I did that video I remember that my daughter was sleeping :-)
@ArcadeDude44
@ArcadeDude44 6 жыл бұрын
An awesome demo, thank you, sir!
@riasgremorypanasonic6968
@riasgremorypanasonic6968 5 жыл бұрын
very well . At last, someone has realized how well analog can be. the comparisons were outstanding and I could distinguish the different media. Well done .
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@Cambaudio
@Cambaudio 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you for the excellent video sir.
@spl4t1
@spl4t1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for still doing content even though it gets demonetized. Says a lot about what you stand for.
@TheDunateen77
@TheDunateen77 4 жыл бұрын
I remember buying the SACD and playing it through my old pioneer 5.1 system and it sounded totally amazing
@Ty_N_KC
@Ty_N_KC 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I really enjoy your channel. Thanks for sharing your time with us
@andik9222
@andik9222 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy for someone demonstrating the very nice cassette Tape quality when mastering and "pressing" is done right, thanks for that 🙂
@martinruddell2682
@martinruddell2682 4 жыл бұрын
SACD and Master Tape copy sound awesome, runner up is 2003 vinyl, but thank you for those moments from the original vinyl... 45 years ago for me!
@ChrisTexan
@ChrisTexan Жыл бұрын
Been listening to the high quality samples (thank you for leaving those up!)... late to the part, but I'm amazed how "compressed" the CD and SACD sound. Especially the bass, the "roundness" of the thumps and string moving in air is very lost, it's more like a synthbass representative note than a real stringed instrument sound. Even compare to either vinyl, the "body" of the bass is just not there anymore in those 2 formats. Even cassette held that (although the top end (cymbal crashes and washes) are very muted on cassette as would be expected. I'm a die-hard fan of CDs for what it's worth, even though I'm "vinyl-aged" we never had a working turntable growing up, LOL, so I never was used to that sound, cassette was my first personal medium, then CDs, which I thought were amazing (and are/can be I think wen mastered correctly). Alan Parson's for example, I'd love to have a vinyl to CD comparison of some of his work, but I can't imagine anything better than my first listen of "Eye in the Sky". The CD/SACD mixes (sounds to me like the same mix/master just output to the relative conversions thus having a bit more headroom on the SACD which is nice) really sound compressed, like the engineer who made that mix assumed the average system couldn't reproduce heavy bass or something, so just make sure the central note is evident and move on, rather than hearing the nuances of the instruments. And was probably true in 1985 or whenever that was mastered for CD, but... ugh. Way too dry, and lost all low-end warmth. And the "sheen" that normally comes through on CD, isn't there (but OMG it is SO there on the master tapes!!!!)... so it's almost like they took an RIAA mix for vinyl (dropped top-end), and just started there to master the CD, and then made more compromises/compression to get it in digital format. No idea, but if you made an SACD or non-lossy digital format straight off those master tapes, it would sound so wonderful. Could then master out a little bit of the barely detectable tape noise (nothing compared to cassette, LOL, but it IS tape)... basically just the tiniest filtering at the edges to silence the noise floor (which the CD/SACD mixes do well, I think that's part of where the low-end warmth got blended out), and a modern reissue with the quality of those masters... would be exquisite. Honestly I know the vinyl have the RIAA profiles applied, they simply have to to cut reliable vinyl, but the "master-tape-intent" really is best preserved there, even if the depth of stage, separation, noise, etc aren't all as good as the digital domain, the "master" quality really is, I'd rather listen to that 1973 vinly, if you replay the first 5 seconds side-by-side between the CD and 1973 vinyl, the vinyl sounds like you are really "in the shop"... the CDs sound like someone using sound tracks "placed this sound left at 88-degrees, placed this sound right at 74-degrees" and they have no ambience, no character at all... just do that, I opened each cilp in a browser tab to quickly swap between them, and the vinyl is just "you are there" (with a little noise) and the CDs... aren't. That's what it is after many cycles now... it's not analog "noise", it's the actual "ambience" of the original mix is GONE in the digital versions. That, to me, isn't a digital vs analog, that's a sound engineer who really screwed up the mix by drying it out completely. I hope it wasn't Alan Parsons on that "to digital" mix, I can't imagine it was though based on this, as he's quite good at maintaining ambience in his SACD/CDs from my experience. With the loss of ambience also comes that loss of "quality" of the instruments. Anyhow, my thoughts years later, having just found this, LOL.
@ajf9880
@ajf9880 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!! really enjoy your videos
@cymacymulacra2301
@cymacymulacra2301 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for allowing all of us to experience something of master recordings from this famous pop music. I haven't listened to the downloads on my DAP yet, but my laptop plays them all the same except for noise levels (surprises no one.)
@alvarosundfeld
@alvarosundfeld 3 жыл бұрын
The master tape copy is absolutly the best. It sounds so rich and oppened. I think the 2003 and the 1973 LP's come in second and third. The worst of all is the cassete, wich is not as loud and sound a little muffled. Great video!
@salamjihad3449
@salamjihad3449 2 жыл бұрын
THE 8TRACK IS NICE TOO !!
@afistfulofpimples1745
@afistfulofpimples1745 2 жыл бұрын
@@salamjihad3449 the 78 is better.
@emirhantemel9912
@emirhantemel9912 4 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to choose between 1973 and 2003 versions. It's probably due to my equipment. Master tape is very natural and definitely my favorite
@gaby1945Argentina
@gaby1945Argentina Жыл бұрын
Foobar A/B same replay gain, the winner 🏆 is master tape
@diogoalfaiate5253
@diogoalfaiate5253 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison! You have great stuff. The copy of the master tape was a real revelation for me, I had never heard some things in the recording before, like the guitar echo when the bass comes in. Cheers!
@mlblue5355
@mlblue5355 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! The master tape was unbelievable!
@Kaxlon
@Kaxlon 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nice comparison! Thank you. For my ears: CD, and master tape copy. SACD totally loses the sound stage. Was not ready for that. All analog versions also sounded great.
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@earthisarealm5393
@earthisarealm5393 6 жыл бұрын
The LP 2003 and Master Tape are by far the superior versions.
@ReelinandRockin99
@ReelinandRockin99 6 жыл бұрын
The LP sounded pretty muddy imo
@vcp93
@vcp93 5 жыл бұрын
WOW, I thought I was crazy, but I agree with you 100%. Those recordings are definitely the best sounding of all the versions. The master tapes seemed like obvious winners, but the 2003 vinyl version was a real surprise. I had to listen to it a couple of times and I actually think I like it the 2003 vinyl version the best. Sure there is that vinyl background noise, but it comes with an airy openness and headroom that the others just don't quite have. Also, the attack on bass strings in the intro seemed rounder and a slightly punchier. The master tapes are nearly neck-n -neck and some would say because of the lack of noise from the media it's the best. I certainly see that point too. Great demo, many thanks.
@klaasj7808
@klaasj7808 5 жыл бұрын
funny for the 2003 master on VInyl they used the same digital source as for the SACD release. Only they pressed it on vinyl instead of plastic haha. So the SACD sounds without a doubt better as it has not the limitations the vinyl medium does have. And yes there are plenty, but sure love vinyl.
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Nope! For the 2003 vinyl they used an analog master. The record is an AAA production. Zero digital!
@klaasj7808
@klaasj7808 5 жыл бұрын
Dont believe that, as it was released at the same time the SACD was released. That was the era that all the master tapes came from their climate controlled room and were digitalized for future use as they should have done it already in the 80s as the CD is not that bad but sure the AD conversion were. I'm not sure of course but vinyl was not hot in 2003, and everything was digital. It was not common for a vinyl press back then to get a analog reel delivered for the pressing and it is still not, maybe some press has now bought a second hand Studer, but sure that is not the common source for the master. Often they just receive an CD or in the past a Digital Audio Tape and now mostly just digital audio files. I can't find anywhere the source it was full analog, there is an interview from 2003 from the guys who did the remastering. news.acousticsounds.com/post.cfm/doug-sax-takes-us-to-the-dark-side But thats all they ever commented on this. Nothing about which source was used to do the LP, the newly created digital tracks or the original analogs.. The SACD was first, so it is possible they used the already created digtal tracks. And this means they didnt used a already mixed stereo digital track, but all the seperate tracks as were on the original masters. And this could be easily 3 or 4 tapes.
@fsmmike
@fsmmike 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Man! Really great job on all this. Now I'm keeping my album collection and Reel-to-reel deck. Thanks for that!
@anadialog
@anadialog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
@itsjim2875
@itsjim2875 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation - thank you!
@musicboxstudio1965
@musicboxstudio1965 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I may be getting old, but for the CDs, I think the first CD was cleaner and that newer vinyl sounded impressive and obviously that reel was the bomb! I kind of felt sorry for the cassette tape level wise with all its HX Pro! and that other XDR I think you said.lol. That was fun to listen and compare with the way your careful explanation of everything. Big thumbs up brother!
@mz5222
@mz5222 6 жыл бұрын
I listened to the samples, with Sony ZR1's headphones and a PHA3 the Master Tape and the LP2003 are in my opinion the best. Tremendous difference from all other formats. Thanks for sharing this experiment Cheers MZ.
@Tobisonics
@Tobisonics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the files - really useful!
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@snitsch68
@snitsch68 3 жыл бұрын
Today's a very special day, thanks to your channel I found out about the differences between analog and digital, as I'm leaving this comment I'm listenning to this great album for the very first time on vinyl i.e. the 2nd UK press which I was fortunate to get hold of with my newly upgraded Thorens turntable TD 115 with new Exact cartridge from Rega (the yellow one)...a great deal of pleasure, cheers from France
@ChangoFrett
@ChangoFrett 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that saturation on the Tape Machine 1 track. Ooooooweeee...... Can't get enough of that punch.
@anadialog
@anadialog 4 жыл бұрын
True!
@florinsgondea6124
@florinsgondea6124 4 жыл бұрын
I am a 67 yo guy, that I grew up with LPs . When the CD s came along I found the sound to be flat compare to a 3 d sound of the LPs. If I close my eys I can see an orchestra and the players on different depth of field located in space. My favorite version is LP 1973. Thanks for your review.
@user-me5hb2xl1j
@user-me5hb2xl1j 3 жыл бұрын
You are absoloutly correct my friend
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I prefer the vinyl sound, I grew up with it, it was the only option. Then cd came along and I got a CD player, and I became disappointed with the sound. I then went back to vinyl, and I got labelled as a dinosaur by younger people at work, but I pointed out that a cd system that cost £100 could never complete with vinyl played on a decent system.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 2 жыл бұрын
The first wave of CDs issued in the 80s were usually taken from LP pre-press masters. These sounded weak or "not full" because LP pre-masters must have compressed dynamics and a huge bass roll-off under 100 Hz (that is boosted back up by the RIAA circuit in the turntable's output stage) so that grooves don't cause the needle to mis-track from too wide or too deep a groove. Add to this basic challenge the OPEC crisis that caused LPs to become thin as tagboard by the mid-late 1970s and you can see why CDs suffered. Those old LP pre-masters were just dusted off and run straight from the old decks (often without any compensation) into a A/D converter in the rush to sell as many CDs as possible.
@bradhuskers
@bradhuskers 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenclarke5606 It's no longer the case. Digital has come light years since then. It's now not even close. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is delusional.
@bradhuskers
@bradhuskers 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-me5hb2xl1j No He was correct back then. Now however, he's dead wrong.
@sunjaychakre1677
@sunjaychakre1677 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison took me 2020 to 1984 recordings. Big Thankyou.
@israelfwm
@israelfwm 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you very much for the downloads and the content!
@anadialog
@anadialog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@theelmagoo
@theelmagoo 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool comparison! I was amazed how much difference I could tell even just listening on KZfaq (at the highest quality setting). One thing I might also suggest is looking at the stereo imaging as well. The SACD version is just amazing in this regard how it uses the full width of the stereo image when compared to the other versions on good headphones. For me, even though I grew up with vinyl and tape, I'm not a big fan of the analog blanket effect (how it smooths out the detail and muffles everything a bit). I don't like pure digital either as clearly that can go way too harsh, but I personally loved the SACD version in this test! The really wide imaging, all of the detail was brought back to life, yet it wasn't harsh, and it just sounded like there was so much depth to it (front to back). For me that felt the most "in the room" with the music, like I was there. Great stuff!
@bioof4
@bioof4 2 жыл бұрын
The bass and vocals were the only things that changed drastically each time. My favorite has to be the 2003 release of the LP
@MrWilander88
@MrWilander88 Жыл бұрын
Omg same here, I felt like as if I was in the room while they performed it live.
@goosedontbefrightened1440
@goosedontbefrightened1440 Жыл бұрын
one thing that stood out to me was the reverb on all of the different versions. the air in the reverb really did a number for me. (long time since you've probably seen this but I don't disagree that those were the biggest differences)
@maxhigh3234
@maxhigh3234 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all this work! Very interesting comparisons. I think one of my ears is plugged up. I need to re-listen after I address the issue.
@larryh1843
@larryh1843 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the Master and the 2003 LP, the cassette surprised me. Thanks for all the hard work.
@GabrielMario63
@GabrielMario63 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison, mate! Definitely, the master tape is the sweetest... But I choose the sound of the vinyl first press (maybe because it's more plausible for me to buy it) the soundstage, the warmth and even the extension of the higher ground it's wonderful... Cheers!
@richardmena1484
@richardmena1484 3 жыл бұрын
You should have included the 2001 Napster 128k version in the downloads :)
@paisleepunk
@paisleepunk 2 жыл бұрын
Not for sound quality, but for nostalgia (for early millennials)
@pittbrat7963
@pittbrat7963 2 жыл бұрын
is that version available on Spotify in 320K?
@peterroth2129
@peterroth2129 2 жыл бұрын
I just compared it with amazon music, even the high quality download is just better than casette, far away from all other wav files provided here. Think I dumped my CDs too early...
@chadleefishel6074
@chadleefishel6074 21 күн бұрын
😂
@godnotsomighty
@godnotsomighty 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, entertaining and thought provoking... thanks.
@docc1123
@docc1123 4 жыл бұрын
The master reel to reel and the vinyl 2003 I thought were very close. Thanks for the great analysis
@Martyz-TV
@Martyz-TV 5 жыл бұрын
I didnt expect the vinyl to perform so well. You may have changed my outlook to vinyl :-)
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Now that will make me smile for the entire day!!
@zaphodsbluecar9518
@zaphodsbluecar9518 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best format comparison I've seen on KZfaq; of course everything we hear is processed and compressed for the stream, but the differences were clearly audible. Nicely done! I didn't realise cassette was so bad...
@g2skinny
@g2skinny 2 жыл бұрын
The cassette tape did suck I agree the master tape was cool but still tape
@QrchackOfficial
@QrchackOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
For the cassette, they had to do everything they could to fight the garbage medium - that's why you hear a compressed, "pinched sound", to get as much above the noise floor as possible. Just like on radio.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 3 жыл бұрын
🤗 THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD ,CAREFUL WORK😍😍😍
@theonl1128
@theonl1128 Жыл бұрын
The difference is very good to hear, thank you. 👌
@bigdaddycool1000
@bigdaddycool1000 5 жыл бұрын
For me the 2003 LP sounds best here
@CyrilleBoucanogh
@CyrilleBoucanogh 4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@baq8680
@baq8680 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 3 жыл бұрын
Great work, thank you. I preferred the master tape. Edit: it appears I have a 73 copy of the Dark Side of The Moon. Better have a good listen. 👍
@RocknRollkat
@RocknRollkat Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, especially the final few minutes where the formats are crossfaded against each other ! Thank you for taking the time to do this. Bill P.
@anadialog
@anadialog Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@RocknRollkat
@RocknRollkat Жыл бұрын
@@anadialog You're welcome !
@luisfanorvega7407
@luisfanorvega7407 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vídeo. Well done. LP 2003 sounds insanely ........freakin good!
@fortitude9932
@fortitude9932 5 жыл бұрын
Analog passion...dope ! Glad people like you still exist.
@TonyTwoTonez
@TonyTwoTonez 6 жыл бұрын
SACD seemed to have a wider sound stage. I love a wide sound stage so that was my favorite but i guess it just depends on your taste. Everyone will pick the source that suites their taste. No matter how you listen just remember to enjoy one of the greatest albums of all time.
@claudiomura
@claudiomura 3 жыл бұрын
it's really interesting listening the differencies of ambience, specially for Pink Floyd
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison. Thanks!
@jamesbentz7883
@jamesbentz7883 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice to have all the hi-def versions to listen to. My favorite was the second press vinyl... "more listenable".. whatever that means... ;)
@burstactive4461
@burstactive4461 5 жыл бұрын
I have 40 years of recording experience. The best sound from reel-to-reel master versions. Different recording studios use equalizers, mixers, and human factors. No standard on this field. Even 20 music professional have different perceptions and will make a personal opinion.
@CeeStyleDj
@CeeStyleDj 4 жыл бұрын
This may be an unpopular opinion and of course it is a subjective one but - SOMETIMES Remasters finally "get it right". ( emphasis on sometimes.) There's something about that 2004 Vinyl version.
@gigngamer
@gigngamer 4 жыл бұрын
The 2003 approach the loudness (artificially) and feel of the original tape for the mainstream public (at a coast of the lost of dynamic range) so i guess it can be ok, but with good listening environnement yes the master and 1973 are the best SACD close
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
Want to engineer master my lp?
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be more interested to hear it tracked in digital and analog. Then the fight would be fair. Of course a reel master will sound best, next to having the real separate tracks to play back. But if this was done today, to digital, nobody would complain and it would some as good, if not better. I've been at it for 50 years.. (like that matters) and digital was the first time drums sounded like they sound to the drummer! No tape compression. Even with crappy ADAT converters they were better. And having been in tape for 3 decades, I can get that sound without the bad parts, with digital pretty easily. All personal for sure. but specs don't lie, but our hearts and ears do.
@iislas1976
@iislas1976 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, thanks,
@franciscofilipe9189
@franciscofilipe9189 4 жыл бұрын
A great idea to make comparisons like this
@bgtubber
@bgtubber 6 жыл бұрын
I downloaded and listened to the files on a FiiO E10K AMP/DAC + Audio-Technica M40X headphones. For me from best to worst: 1. 2003 vinyl 2. Master tape copy 2 3. Master tape copy 4. 1973 vinyl 5. SACD 6. CD 7. Casette
@jamesmdeluca
@jamesmdeluca 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings: I worked for CREST DIGITAL MEDIA (Hollywood) that mastered the SACD master and duplicated the discs. Our listening room had audiophile grade playback equipment that likely cost more than my salary. Not having golden ears, although I was able to note the remixing sound difference, I was unable to note a qualitative difference from the regular CD. If I remember correctly, the source material was delivered at a sample rate of 192 kHz. I was working in the HD video depth. at the time so had no direct involvement with th project. (The AC power cords were filled with sand!?) I think the sacd recording was multi-channel as well, but it was over 10 years ago.
@HB92647
@HB92647 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Thanks.
@tomsblog
@tomsblog Жыл бұрын
Thx for this great comparison. I have a Q4 Harvest Quadrophonic LP Version and there is a rare Q8 LP Version on the market. With the right Hardware (i have a 4 Channel Ampilifer) you a hearing the greatest quad Release ever made!
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын
You know, considering that the cassette was at 1 7/8 IPS and the R to R was at 15 IPS, you have to hand it to the cassette tape! I am enjoying some really fine PRErecorded cassette tapes and it is amazing just how good they sound on a GOOD player. I have the Bang and Olufsen 6500 series audio system from 1990. I replaced all the belts on the player and enjoy using the REMOTE control for it's functions. Who ever heard of a cassette deck with full remote control of playback, record, flipping sides etc. ??? Fun vintage stuff that still sounds SO good (O:
@Joel-ry7ez
@Joel-ry7ez 5 жыл бұрын
30th Anniversary edition vinyl, SACD and Master Tape. I guess in this order, are my bests. The dynamic of the cassette recording it's interesting. We never used to buy comercial cassettes. We used to buy vinyl records and tape them for Walkman use. It makes me remember the quality of our recordings in CrO2 + Dolby C from Vinyl - despite the quality of the manual recording at home, was better than the commercial sold tapes, even with extended dynamics and headroom expansion and whatsoever, but the industrial process brings deep lacks. Anyhow, I liked that kind of wide deep sound although was few dB lower. Mate: You are a guy I'd like to be friends with. Thanks for your work, your voice tone, your dedication and your art. You have art in what you do. - This is my first video where I find you, I'll subscribe and keep in touch. Warm hug to you and everyone reading and commenting in this interesting channel.
@petermccallum9938
@petermccallum9938 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I done that to and still have my collection. They certainly were almost on par with the original vinyl and you can nearly eliminate ANY tape hiss by doing a first run silent recording! Used SONY HF 90 tapes.
@ivanaraque
@ivanaraque 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great analysis!
@nelsomlacao9737
@nelsomlacao9737 Жыл бұрын
hello, very thanks for this amazing post, i'm loved , very interested theme !!!! thank you , best regards.
@kcleach9312
@kcleach9312 5 жыл бұрын
your voice is on the edge of a whisper, kind of relaxing! lol
@jordandallen
@jordandallen Жыл бұрын
Great video. I enjoyed listening to the comparisons. The master tape wins by a long shot to my ears. But I will say that the SACD down sampling from it's native DSD format 24bit/192khz did it a great disservice.
@bethcaruso8855
@bethcaruso8855 4 жыл бұрын
Great examples for us to hear and evaluate. Thanks for your time and knowledge sharing. It's greatly appreciated. I think the Master Tape is best for me followed closely to the 2003 LP.
@tommyradband4069
@tommyradband4069 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding demo and review1
@loonachan
@loonachan 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I listened to the Dark Side of the Moon it was on that exact cassette version. I still recognize that exact sound signature as being separate from the others and nostalgic. It's more than just tape hiss, it certainly has its own texture about it.
@anadialog
@anadialog 5 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@Mike-fi5se
@Mike-fi5se 2 жыл бұрын
I hear more compression breathing on the cassette, probably due to the limitations of the format. Ex recording engineer for a cassette duplication house that did copies for Sony Classical, back in the 1980s. But for what it was I wouldn't have complained.
@kadzlostandfoundmedia
@kadzlostandfoundmedia 2 жыл бұрын
The master tape was the best, but I liked the warm feeling of the cassette and vinyl. I only have it on CD and Vinyl and it doesn’t sound bad but compared to the other ones on here I have to get a reel to reel copy.
@janzimny7957
@janzimny7957 Жыл бұрын
Just listened on my iPad to all the formats and I Love the reel to reel tape!!
@raduflorin6154
@raduflorin6154 2 ай бұрын
That master tape , sounds awesome, it's probably worth it's weight in gold at this point!! The vinyl from 2003 sounds great as well , the cassette tape sounds very smooth, and put a smile on my face 😊 !!
@seesaw1969
@seesaw1969 3 жыл бұрын
good experiment...i I've been searching for something like this..and doing this with my fav Floyd album... obviously the master tape copy sounds much beter than others, however the SACD also put high equality to rip part and separate instruments. thks
@shpater
@shpater 4 жыл бұрын
Most interesting video, Thanks a lot! The major difference I heard is that the RTR recorded Master Copy has a slight speed difference (slower) than the rest of the sample. It indicates that during the process of copying the Master at least one of the machines speed (playback and/or recording machine) was slightly not calibrated properly.
@9thstreetbrandt
@9thstreetbrandt Жыл бұрын
Holy shit that master tape copy sounds great
@luisbe88
@luisbe88 4 жыл бұрын
You got my thumbs up as soon as I spotted the Beatles in Mono boxset :)
@ProgressiveTrancer
@ProgressiveTrancer 5 жыл бұрын
I love how good the cassette sounds. Obviously it's the worst compared to the others but still very impressive.
@ganaksergey514
@ganaksergey514 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for great comparison! Really nice and interesting! As to me the 2003 vinyl sounds best, more dynamics! Master tape is number 2 for me.
@lucianobellebono9748
@lucianobellebono9748 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibile!!! Lo sapevo che con il nastro in bobina aperta era il massimo! Ottima comparazione. Ascolto sempre i miei nastri (anche con registrazioni vecchie più di 30 anni) e suonano ancora magnificamente. Grazie, ciao
@hakanjeppsson9704
@hakanjeppsson9704 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you!
@surenjlsorenson8128
@surenjlsorenson8128 5 жыл бұрын
I am extremely satisfied and happy with my reel to real copy at 15 ips version on pro equipment and thank you for sharing your experience
@yttean98
@yttean98 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this exercise, must have taken you a few hours of work at least, I enjoyed that.
@anadialog
@anadialog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@77Cardinal
@77Cardinal 4 жыл бұрын
This was fun, thanks!
@banjammy4116
@banjammy4116 6 ай бұрын
Bought the album when it came out , listened to it a couple times, then went and saw them that night ,it was Mr. Gilmore's birthday you ain't never gonna get no recreation. As Mr.Walsh once said l am an analog man, saw him too.
@anadialog
@anadialog 6 ай бұрын
How cool!
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