If this actually happened I would just tell him to cut that out before I get mad

Something I think is worth mentioning is that Guzzlord and the Ultra Ruin timeline’s Zygarde might be one and the same. Guzzlord has a lot of design similarities to Zygarde’s complete form (mouth, two pairs of eyes, tiny head, two snake like appendages, etc), as well as similar stat distributions and nearly identical shiny palettes. That on top of the fact that the designer of Guzzlord himself (James Turner) also implied a connection between the two when asked on twitter suggests that Guzzlord might be some kind of mutated Zygarde (or Zygarde cell). Not sure how the specifics would work but if I had to guess, perhaps the Guzzlords are the result of Zygarde’s clash with Necrozma after the player failed to stop it, and the reason the other legendaries didn’t stand a chance against Necrozma is because they were also up against an army of corrupted Zygarde, all hellbent on destroying the ecosystem rather than protecting it.

Arecus, palaki and dialga are just observers as long as space and time aren’t disturbed they don’t care Zekrom and Reshiram are probably still sealed Xerneas and Yveltal are still going to balancing life and death so they don’t really care Mewtwo is probably still in the cyro pod or he doesn’t care Zygarde is the only mon who really intervenes when it comes to balance in the Pokémon world The rest of the legendary off doing their own thing

What still continues to bother me and creep me out to this day? Several things. In a response to some people pointing out the many similarities in designs between Zygarde and Guzzlord despite their purposes and roles being complete polar opposites, James Turner, the artist who designed the two Pokemon casually mentioned that the similarities were quite interesting said that it wasn't a coincidence. The implication being that Guzzlord isn't just similar or the opposite of Zygarde, but that the two of them are in fact one in the same. Through the dialogue with the Ultra Ruins Hazmat suit man, it is actually revealed that once Guzzlord did not exist. But rather it was created in the result of a Nuclear Accident at a Nuclear Powerplant that had just been built in Alola. One that was never made in our own timeline. A Pokémon was caught in the nuclear Meltdown. And in the aftermath of the fallout, Guzzlord emerged from the wreckage. Then it Multiplied. And they are and destroyed everything in sight, even the most harmful and toxic and dangerous substances didn't even phase it. And all of humanity and Pokémon were evacuated from the Planet Earth and set up refuge colonies in the Moon. And eventually a Global Mass Exodus was issued and all humans and Pokémon left for space to try and find a new home planet that could sustain life. And now the Hazmat Suit Man is the only one actually left on earth, stationed there for the time being as one of the humans tasked with being sent back to earth to temporarily monitor and report back the activity on earth and the whereabouts and status of the Guzzlord. Until eventually the Hazmat Suit Man will leave as well. The other eerie thing he mentions that haunts me to this day, is that he somehow recognizes us and it is implied that we the player canonically exist in the Ultra Ruins Timeline but fled the planet along with the rest of the humans and Pokémon. It is never stated or hinted as to wether or not we were still Pokémon trainers or the champion of the Alola Region. But the Hazmat Suit Man seems nervous to tell us anything more in detail implying whatever happened to us is something we're better not knowing. This has several dark implications like wether we were one of the first people who fought back against the Guzzlord like a similar scenario shown in the anime wich is a completely separate canon and timeline of events and lore but still probably shares many aspects and events. In the anime Dia was one of the first responders who fought Guzzlord but lost. He was supposedly the only one who was left after the mission. With no other people or Pokémon remaining. The Global Mass Exodus then took place while Dia chose to stay behind with no actual way to escape but alongside one of the few forms of living fe left on the planet, partnered up with the Mythical Pokémon Zeraora to defeat Guzzlord and push it back into the Ultra Wormhole it came through. Then the events of the anime with Ash and Pikachu took place and they succeeded and Dia and Zeraora would continue to slowly help life grow back and start again on the planet. And already some of the few Pokémon left on the planet returned once Guzzlord was gone. And Dia states that eventually People and Pokémon would someday begin to return as well. And until then they would help bring back life to the planet. It seems likely the player character probably took part in a similar series of events but never succeeded and ended up either losing their Pokemon as well and ended up either fleeing the planet as well or our alternate universe player character also likewise never returned from that mission to defeat Guzzlord. Yet another thing, in the games canon, the Hazmat Suit Man says that the Guzzlord have actually destroyed and eaten so much of the planet that there is almost nothing left for them to eat. And lately they have slowly been dying out and going extinct due to Guzzlord's endless hunger and need to constantly eat in order to live. But they have already all but exhausted any edible matter to them which as we see is any matter at all wether garbage, hazardous waste, buildings, vehicles, or any living creature left on the planet unfortunate enough to be stranded with it. Just like how Zygarde is the protector of the environment and the planet and the Ecosystem who will never stop fighting aggressively and mercilessly to protect it and life on the planet, Guzzlord will endlessly consume and destroy the planet and destroy the ecosystem to the point where it even can't sustain itself and eventually there is nothing left in the world and not even itself. Because it too will eventually no longer exist and will destroyed. Another thing to keep in mind, only in the original Sun and Moon games Guzzlord is instead encountered in a cave EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE INNERMOST CHAMBER OF TERMINOUS CAVE IN KALOS WHERE YOU ENCOUNTER ZYGARDE! This is because the Ultra Ruins are never visited or explored in the original Sun and Moon games and Guzzlord was instead transported there through an Ultra Wormhole. And since there are Multiple Guzzlord in the Ultra Alola Games but only that single one in the Original Alola Games, this could very well be one of the same from the Ultra Ruins or maybe even the Original. One that was once Zygarde from an Alternate Dimension where it was caught in the Nuclear Meltdown and mutates and corrupted into Guzzlord, the Destroyer of the Ecosystem that ate everything and ended the world. Alternatively maybe it tries to stop the Nuclear Disaster but failed and was unwillingly corrupted and turned into Guzzlord. Or maybe it was a conscious action and it decided to give in and become corrupted as a punishment for Humans who had finally harmed and destroyed the environment and ecosystem for the last time and it was willing to destroy the world even if all Pokémon were caught in the middle of the conflict. Maybe it thought they were worth sacrificing to punish the human race. Maybe many humans and Pokémon alike didn't survive the events of the Original Guzzlord's creation in the Ultra Ruins. Maybe even we the player and our Pokémon in that alternate dimension also perished. These thoughts about how dark and disturbing my favorite franchise which is still mainly a kid friendly franchise continue to leave me theory crafting the inner machinations of my mind into new lower, scarier depths. And that's only partially a conscious decision. The rest is all nightmare fuel that haunts me.

I feel like you could view it as a timeline with no protagonists. No one to harness the power of Legendaries or rise above the champions. No one to strive beyond above everyone else or to inspire anyone else to grow stronger. Maybe the games never even happen. Groudon and Kyogre are never awakened, Reshiram/Zekrom are never awakened, Xerneas and Yveltal are never awakened, and Zygarde's cells are never collected. The pre-existing evil teams would still be there though. Team Rocket would have complete control over Kanto and Johto and Team Plasma would have complete control over Unova. All three of these regions would be devoid of any trainers as well with all their pokemon being stolen. All of this leads to the Aether Foundation bringing over Necrozma and awakening Solgaleo/Lunala. It's only downhill from there, especially after considering the countless roaming legendaries that have no trainer to hone their power, or the countless sleeping legendaries with no trainer to awaken them. All and all, it's very simply to see how the remaining legendaries couldn't compare to Ultra Necrozma and a literal endless supply of Ultra Beasts. All of this is even before you account the later games with Rose's company also being a pre-existing evil team and professors from Scarlet/Violet also existing way before the protagonists' journeys. Ultra Necrozma, endless ultra beasts, rampaging dynamaxing pokemon, rampaging paradox pokemon, and even Eternamax would simply be too much for such a maimed timeline.

Ultra necrozma is simply so overpowered that no single pokemon aside from the literal gods can do anything to it. And that's terrifying. Eternamax eternatus maybe but they can't always use that form.

The outcome of the usum games if bro didn't bring a zoroark or toxic staller

During the post game there is team Rainbow Rocket where all the evil team leaders bring up the fact that there wasn’t a protagonist to stop them maybe this was a similar case

There is also the fact the panel next to guzzlord is reversed audio of the trailer

The Ultra Ruin timeline honestly gives me SCP-5000 vibes with how you need to piece together the destruction and terror that happened because so many powerful creatures just appeared with Guzzlord being the main devourer

Frankly I'm shocked you didn't mention the power plants being referenced in the ultra ruins. Personally, I think that the Ultra Ruins is literally just a Pokémon version of fallout/chernobyl, the power plants were nuclear and failed due to some sort of error (Which could also be HUMAN error mind you), and the Guzzlords were tasked to eat the nuclear waste left over. Many of the Guzzlords also became sick due to eating the nuclear waste. This is why the guy at the front isn't actually scared of the Guzzlord, if the Guzzlord was a killing machine I doubt he'd be calling it pet names like "Mr. Glutton". I lost my Ultra Moon copy a good while ago, but I remember a lot of the details of the ultra ruins because I hyperfixated on that area, I used to write quite a bit about it. You could also speculate that a bunch of people left this now desolate planet and created the ultramegalopolis where Ultra Necrozma resided.

Just bring out garbodor Whats he gonna do? Eat a literal mountain of highly poisonous and probably radioactive sentient garbage?

This was actually a really good theory I liked how dialga palkia and arceus explanations made sense they don’t really involve themselves with any of earths problems they kinda just stay in their own realm until they get thirsty(I’m talking about when dialga went to go drink from a pond in the shaymin movie) but yeah this deserves a subscribe from me. Hope you can get noticed by a lot more people

Odd that you failed to mention how it is implied that the planet was heavily polluted by humans. That is something you probably should've brought up.

I still believe, lore-wise ultra necrozma is the second strongest pokemon only behind Arceus and above Giratina

If the Ultra Timeline is really just a split off of ours or an alternative timeline, whose to say the legendary’s are the exact same? It’s an alternate timeline after all, it could also be implied that the legendary Pokémon simply had different intentions then the originals and were probably less caring of humans. I don’t really see this as the truth as there’s lack of evidence, but again, it’s an alternate timeline, there could very well be a significant change in the Pokémon of those alternative cases if so

guzzlord was an experiment gone wrong in the anime

All in all, people on Guzzlord's timeline went through hell and it's very depressing knowing places they once grew in are completely gone and deemed uninhabitable. The feeling of complete lost and despair to find new planet to live on, start anew, etc. Damn.

It's cool and all, but wasn't it mentioned by the only guy in Ultra Ruin that there were survivors, but they all left for the other planets and he is here in order to keep check on Guzzlord? It wasn't destroyed by Necrozma, it's people who destroyed this place and Guzzlord is actually helping to clean it.

This guy:”100% zygard is doing nothing to ultra necrozoma” Me and my lvl1 rattata:”pillar men music starts playing”

i would love for a game or a movie to take place in this post apocalypse , maybe combined with other ones like thr Groudon/Kyogre fight , a Deoxys invasion ,paradox pokemon running arround , the ultimamente weapon being activated ecc except for the cyrus one cause the universe would just be destroyed

Love the thought of legendarys being put im groups of "good guys" and "bad guys" Like, all the mythicals fall into the "good guys" category, alongside Xerneas, Zygarde, Rayquaza, Legendary Beast/Birds and Ho-Oh etc. Then for the "bad guys" we've got the ultra beasts, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Yveltal etc

"Why didn't the rest of the Legendary Pokemon intervine against Ultra Necrozma and the Ultra Beasts?" Who says they haven't?... or actually, who says they are not? In the Ultra Ruins, we only see Guzzlord in the ruins of Alola. What if the rest of the Ultra Beasts are already invading other regions of the Pokemon World, but we are just in ruin Alola? Sure, the NPC says all humans went to other planets, but that doesn't mean all Pokemon have done that. Which take me to the Legendary ones. Legendary Pokemon are chillin in their own Region, so Ultra Necrozma appearing in Alola and consuming the light will not bother them, specially those who are in deep slumber, like the Regii, the Weather Trio, and others. So they had no need to go to Alola and face Ultra Necrozma, leaving Alola's Legendary Pokemon alone to fight the Ultra Invasion. With Solgaleo/Lunala defeated, that only leaves the Tapus (and Zygard), and I dont think they are strong enough to take on the invasion. Once Alola is destroyed, the Ultra Beasts and Ultra Necrozma can expand to other Pokemon Regions, which is when they will face the regional Legendaries. Meanwhile, Guzzlord could just stay chillin eating all of Alola in the meantime.

I LOVE Ultra Space. Since I was writing a few scenarios about my Alola characters, I wanted to look more into the wormhole dimensions, and holy crap. Random Ultra Space facts; the air in Ultra Ruin is harmful to breathe for too long. The body does not wear down in Ultra Deep Sea (and presumably the others as well), ie: someone can't get hungry or sick Humans having gone through a wormhole are called Fallers and attract Ultra Beasts to them.

This....Was never caused by Necrozma, I'm sorry. But based on everything that was said by the environment and from that one person, Guzzlord was never the cause of everything becoming a hazardous wasteland. But we have a pretty good idea of what, or rather, WHO caused that disaster.

Selene/Elio:Are transported to a world were they and everyone they know/love is dead and the world they knew that should have been there is destroyed. Also Selene/Elio: keeps smiling with the 1000 yard stare with no thoughts whatsoever. : )

I can't wait to see how Pokemon lore evolves in future generations, i would love to see a game where the pokemon "region" is actually a region on another planet though it probably would't be called a region.

You forgot about the Pokémon sun and moon episode where ash gets transported to the timeline

Really good video, minor error: The SM Protags names are Elio and Selene in the games.

wait a minute. So Arceus... is basically Miguel O'Hara, but as a god? Awesome. MILES, WE GOTTA BREAK SOME CANON

N zygarde is the order Pokemon......i would think zygarde would play a major part in this since it watching over the balance of the ecosystem

The only reason ultra necrozma won was because impidimp didn't exist yet

Actually arceus did intervened in legend arceus when he sent our character back in time to stop giratina

i think arceus is like real god he writes something and then doesnt just stop it from happening

the screen shaking gave me motion sickness really bad....

mimikyu solos the verse

You know your power scaling.

Glad someone is defending Arceus. Great video!

Really nice video. I find it very interesting finding out just how strong these Pokémon really are. I think there are Pokémon that could defeat Ultra Necrozma, Arceus, Rayquaza and maybe a few others but since this is an alternate timeline the Pokémon may have different intentions or things are different overall.

The screen shake makes the video really hard to watch. The editing is good without it being on the entire video!

Ever since I stumbled upon this place for the first and so far only time given it's rare chance of appearing I've had it in the back of my mind constantly. I've always wanted more from it; so glad to see someone finally deliver on that!

as guzlord would say AAAAAAAAA

this is really well made nice job dude

Great video on this timeline and things that allowed it to happen, I really enjoyed your Pokemon lore and power scaling videos and can't wait to see what others you do in the future. I always wish other big power scaling channels I watch would do videos on the Pokemon series cause I think most people look down on Pokemon in terms of scaling when it is actually very strong and will probably grow stronger as the series continues.

How does this video has less than 10k views but 45k likes?

To me it seems like thats guzzlord specie origin timeline and it evolved to sustain by eating the ruins of an earth ruined by human pollution and war

great vid, watched it thinking it had hundred thousands of views haha hope you do great in yt +1 sub

Dawg why at night bruv😭😭 Im now scared to sleep

Imagine if Dialga , Palkia or Giratina Origin Forme Intervened against Ultra Necrozma. He’s toast as well .

Great Video!

Idk if it’s just me, but the music sounds a bit too loud, was hard to hear you at times.

wait why are we putting so much emphasis on zygarde how powerful is he ???

This is a very well made video, and I really love the topic. I think that speculative pokémon lure is super interesting, however you did not address something that I think actually strengthens your argument. There is a designer on the pokémon team named James Turner, he used to tweet a lot about pokémon on his Twitter, but then when people started talking about it in videos he stopped tweeting probably because the pokémon company didn't want him giving away a lot of hidden information. But he actually designed guzzlord, and he tweeted before hinting very very heavily that guzzlord is actually an alternate universe evil version of zygarde. Rather than being the protector of Earth and nature, who is here to make sure that the balance stays intact. He was awakened, and is actually the destroyer of balance and nature. Who wants to ruin the Earth in the exact opposite that zygarde wants to protect it. So this makes sense according to your theory, obviously without zygarde 100% fighting against necrozma it would have been a very very difficult battle. But when you realize that the equivalent of zygarde 100% was actually on the side of ultra necrosma and wanted to help steal the light and destroy the earth it makes a whole lot of sense. And it shows why guzzlord specifically is found in that ultra ruins timeline. It's from the timeline where instead of having the protector zygarde, we had someone who actively wanted to do the exact opposite of what he did.

I thought it was a Plant Explosion

Absolutely amazing 👍🏻

Idk why but I love the power scaling for the legendaries so much 😭❤️❤️❤️

Poke you did great job man

AMAZING!!!

you should turn the music up

this was hype

so... what's the lore behind Guzzlord, if there is any?

Love the darker side of media. Also wish I played pkmn Ultra Sun and Moon

Or, that universe just never had legendary Pokemon.

Music wayyyyu tooo loud compared to voice

Hey, loved the video! I didnt know about any of this prior to watching and the intro alone really piqued my interest! I think you have a lot of potential as a creator, its a shame you only have around 400 subscribers! I do have some criticism though, the background music you used (especially around the 1 minute mark) was too loud and I struggled to make out what you were saying sometimes since the volume of the music you chose was distracting. But, I must say, the music was honestly a perfect fit for this. I hope the almighty algorithm blesses you with more viewers!

Why so less subscribes? Deserves way more

I really liked this theory! But i still have one question, if Necrozma did win and no one was capable or was not there to stop it, then why no one could beat the Ultra Beasts, likw Zygarde, they lost light, but they could still try and save the world from the Ultra Beasts, Necrozma left after all!

how about kyogre groudon or rayquaza? i mean the ultra beast propably attacked gthe seas or lands and since rayquaza protects earth (cause he hate deoxys cause its a space virus so he doesn't let him go to earth and he also handles kyogres and groodons battles so he kinda is the protector of earth) or how about zacian, zamazenta or spectrier glastrier and calyrex? i know they weren't created in terms of gameplay but in terms of lore they did cause if you lived in pokemon it would be weird if a knew region popped up every 3 years

Wait how come the jewel movoenisnt cannon anymore?

Can you go to Ultra Ruin in each Edition or is it exclusive from Ultra Moon?

Umm xerneas cant die and yveltal can unalive anything

wbu Rayquaza

Actually look at guzzlord again doesn't it kins of look like zygarde 100%

Third, Im in love with this video

I thought, Gus, lord, only appeared after the Alola region in that universe was over polluted by humans?

Second, good video

I'm just gonna break something to you ultra sun and ultra moon focus on universe, not timeline these are two different things, timeline is the events the happend in point on time, example is the avengers getting the infinity stones, i wont example because you already watch the movie, next is universe is a different reality than our own, example is no way home spiderman, the three spiderman came on different universe not timeline, so the ruin world, that guzzlord destroy, is a universe not a timeline, its part of the ultraspace universe.

FIRSTY IM FIRST

You do know that Zygarde is it* The pokemon is gender less. So its not a he*

Isn’t guzzlord a corrupted zygarde that corrupted due to pollution because zygarde embodies the earth and earth is slowly during due to pollution. I mean look at 100% zygarde and compare it to guzzlord, guzzlords are corrupted zygarde

The arceus movie is cannon tho