THE DAY AFTER: An honest review of the Springboks' loss to Ireland in Durban

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THE DAY AFTER: An honest review of the Springboks' loss to Ireland in Durban

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Brenden Nel

Ай бұрын

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@celticlofts Ай бұрын

Since 2016 Ireland and South Africa have played against each other with Ireland winning five of the eight games played. Ireland have won 4 of the last 5 games. I think the dominance of Southern Hemisphere Rugby is being challenged more today than every before and I think that's a great thing for sport.

@aidanmasterson50 Ай бұрын

Us Irish are not used to altitude and certainly not 28 degrees. Credit to the fitness and conditioning of these Irish players.

@mikeonthetube79 Ай бұрын

was 20c or less when they were playing

@patrickbrennan911 Ай бұрын

@@mikeonthetube79less I’d say

@MrLukeyhym Ай бұрын

Durban’s sea level but if you mean going from altitude week before to hot week after, yeah. Either way, couldn’t agree more, incredible Irish team - been top drawer for years now and deserved winners on Saturday. Don’t often see the Bok pack get knocked around like they did in the first half.

@patrickbrennan911 Ай бұрын

@@MrLukeyhym don’t know if I’m buying any of those excuses. Durban is wet and sticky. Humid heat. Pretoria much drier and cooler in the evening. Yes it’s at high altitude, but the gust play in the URC now, so are used to it!

@derekallan1341 Ай бұрын

neither were Munster and Glasgow. Poor comment

@razeenmeyer9728 Ай бұрын

In all honesty, we needed a humbling. We kinda got arrogant.

@mikhailswartz Ай бұрын

@@razeenmeyer9728 💯!!

@fmully1429 Ай бұрын

@@mikhailswartzwell said, but you're still a great team

@jeffsteyn7174 Ай бұрын

Who's we? The players or a group of fans

@pacoraye8866 Ай бұрын

No disagree we were never, arrogant, we were outplayed and out though by a very good Ireland side...

@razeenmeyer9728 Ай бұрын

@@jeffsteyn7174 management team, players, pundits, youtubers, fans. We got arrogant because we back to back, 4 time world champions. Compare our arrogance from 2019, if any at that time, to now. If you dont see it, you never will.

@straights Ай бұрын

The rivalry is legitamitly AWESOME! The URC has become a really competitive tournament where any of the top 5-6 teams could win it. We at Leinster won it 4 years in a row and the competition had vecome stale. But now Stormers won it in there first year of the competition. Munster have won it and now the Scots have become a real force with Glasgow winning this year. Its been a great revelation. Irish and South African players are really getting to know one another and the rivalry is building and building through competitive URC games.

@joshbernard4656 Ай бұрын

Faf needs to decide if he wants to play rugby or sell speedo’s.

@AC-hu3xk Ай бұрын

Agree

@derekallan1341 Ай бұрын

you should give up trying to be a comedian because you are not good at it

@joshbernard4656 Ай бұрын

@@derekallan1341 what was the joke?

@derekallan1341 Ай бұрын

@@joshbernard4656 not you for sure. You hell as know nothing about protecting rucks and mauls for the scrum half. Faf was left there to do it himself. You are the joke

@mickser101 Ай бұрын

Ireland were outstanding yesterday in spite of Karl Dickson. Frawley had ice in the veins after his Euro Final disaster of drop goal misses. This after the Irish players have been on the go since start of July last year

@mikhailswartz Ай бұрын

It's nice to go on about how the Irish have been going since July 2023 hey? If you win, you can say "in spite of fatigue" and if you lose you can say "due to fatigue". The Bok players have been playing all this time as well but wouldn't dream of using fatigue as an excuse. Coz really that's all it is - An excuse. Credit to Ireland for being tough as nails. A well-earned victory indeed. Happy they won. It hurt the Boks and the improvement from here on out will be better than if they had won the series 2-0.

@LB_die_Kaapie Ай бұрын

So what? We have injuries too. We also had to deal with shite refs.We had just as long of a season. Like what are you actually saying??

@mikhailswartz Ай бұрын

@@LB_die_Kaapie exactly. The commentators were laying it on thick in the pre-game already. Can Ireland - who are at the end of a 13month nonstop season - cause an upset?" Blah blah blah. Prepping back-up excuses prior to kickoff already... Just in case. 🙄

@clincher1961 Ай бұрын

No need to be so "excitable" for want of a better word. I think people are saying the players must be exhausted and therefore a terrific performance. SA players have probably had the same season and must be tired too. For us, travelling to SA at the end of a long tiring season is really a tough tour. No matter what we do in the gym and at training, the Boks are a bigger more physical team than us. We are really punching above our weight when we play you, so it's even harder when it's at the end of a really tough season (and this has been the longest season ever - until next season!!!). It's tough for us to play you in November in Ireland but much harder again in July in SA. A great test series and I think anyone can agree we did exceptionally well to come back in the 2nd match.

@Granuaile1 Ай бұрын

28 degrees in Ireland is a catastrophe leading to drought, dehydration and skin cancer. The average summer temperature in Ireland is around 18 degrees (with rain!). So NOT ideal for us! So to play so well in that heat is something else!! Look for another excuse!

@williem1710 Ай бұрын

Incredible that the Boks had to rely on penalties throughout the game. Never got over Ireland’s try line.

@user-qe1tv1bu2f Ай бұрын

Pathetic

@michaelmccarthy9411 Ай бұрын

What about the South African player who took a dive looking for obstruction? It's not soccer!

@schalkbreedt628 Ай бұрын

Brilliantly Done by the Irish

@annettekolb3103 Ай бұрын

In my opinion if Marx is out bring in van der merwe. If sous is out RG to start on 5 Bring Louw in on the bench or even BJD. Ewan Roos on 8 to start, kwagga closer SFM at 10 to start with Grant at 9. Those 2 were stand out players this pass weekend and i believe they earned their spot as starters in 9 and 10. DDA need to take a holiday and we need to bring in Hooker. If Damian Willemse is ready to play start 15 with SFM at 10.

@revenomoodley9344 Ай бұрын

1stly well done to Ireland, we need to be honest and admit we wernt at our best in both games. Faf, Pollard and kwagga at 8 didnt work.

@user-jt7tg3sp7s Ай бұрын

You weren't allowed to be at your best..Ireland 🇮🇪 battered you in the second test.

@revenomoodley9344 Ай бұрын

@@user-jt7tg3sp7s You will never hear WORLD CHAMPIONS complain about losing. As I started off well done to Ireland. , 4 x times world champions 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

@the3rdtruth211 29 күн бұрын

@@revenomoodley9344 So well done, but not really because we weren't at our best? That's not really a genuine comment is it? That's complaining about losing without directly stating it! Who are you trying to fool? It's really sour grapes. Ireland B beat you in the 2nd test. Did you factor that into your thinking? Of course not! Go ahead and remind us again about the amount of World Cups SA won. Remember rugby is only Ireland's 4th favourite sport. Our upward curve will continue and we will be right in the mix for the next WC

@revenomoodley9344 29 күн бұрын

@@the3rdtruth211 @the3rdtruth211 Your trying to bait me into an argument after your the 1 who started being salty. I honestly meant well done to Ireland and as Springbok fan I highlighted some issues we need to work on. Its YOUR salty comment which prompted my response. FYI South African people have rugby in our DNA so let it be your 4th best sport, it will remain our bread and butter.

@craig6520 Ай бұрын

Nice that it keeps a slight question mark over who's the best in the world ;) even though it slightly edges to the boks because of RWC success. Love the developing rivalry

@natecoet3291 Ай бұрын

You can't compare test match vs world cup. I mean the best team's are benchmarked by world cups. Test games come and go. World cups don't.

@garytaylor6408 Ай бұрын

As an Irish fan, SA are the worlds number one, world cup holders, enough said. I and my friends all agree with that, don't think the dickhead press speak for us. Respect from Ireland.

@some_might_say 29 күн бұрын

@natecoet3291 exactly and ireland beat SA in the world cup

@chfeeke4764 Ай бұрын

The problem is that there are certain players that are too comfortable in their position. I love Faf and Pollard but they were off the mark in both tests. Why are we ignoring Sacha as an option at 10?

@khanyisagusha4336 Ай бұрын

Good question

@razeenmeyer9728 Ай бұрын

@@khanyisagusha4336 We have a new coaching system and they are adjusting. Read the game.

@JacoLuus Ай бұрын

Pollard scored all the points with 100% accuracy. Faf didn't have a great day that is expected Sacha is not a 10 he is there to cover 15 and centre.

@martintheunissen7847 Ай бұрын

@@JacoLuuspollard kicked his goals @ 100%, but his positional and tactical game was utterly shocking, along with Faf, they totally weakened the back line

@BroderickMilton-dv2sp Ай бұрын

We have a 10 for the game plan..you know who...starts with an M😂

@joeqio1703 Ай бұрын

Ireland deserve the win..SA just could not match them in all areas of the game.

@AC-hu3xk Ай бұрын

Its funny had the drop goal failed, the Boks supporters would have different comments. Let get real , we won so many close games. We are playing a dam good team. Nothing is assured that Boks can break thru defences all the time. Our first half let us down. We should have been better ready for a irish backlash. The new playing system takes time to adjust . Will be happy with this loss going forward . We needed this kick up our back side. Our locks need good backups, and No 8 is a special role & and we need to find the proper 8 replacement. Polard may not fit this style of play. Lets give them some time. We won a double world cup, give then some respect. One loss dont define us and especially 1 point loss . Boks are never a consistent side other than the World Cup.. let's accept it. Move on. Dam, we dont have 3 rd test.

@mikhailswartz Ай бұрын

I thought I was the only 1 who was happy that we lost. I said in another comment that Rassie & Co were looking a little too jolly in the press conferences throughout this past week. I hope that yesterday popped the unconscious ego balloon that was inflating. (I know they claim to not have egos, but let's be real - human nature is human nature). We'll learn so much more from losing yesterday, than we would have had we won. I'd gladly take a 67% win record over the next 4 years and then win the RWC in 2027 than be Ireland - winning streak for nearly 2 years or whatever and then choking when it matters most like the Proteas in literally every tournament ever. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. ✌🏾

@raymonddixon7603 Ай бұрын

Just a thought here from an Irishman. The Boks never looked like they could score, except from frees. there was never a try or a drop goal there. I am not being mean you are the World Champions and the best, but just making a point.

@mikhailswartz Ай бұрын

@@raymonddixon7603 nothing you've said there was mean. Ireland dominated that 1st half. The Boks managed to chip away at the scoreboard with penalties and thought they had it in the bag. Then Ireland made a plan and the execution thereof was excellent. It's been easy for Bok fans to be courteous and complimentary toward other nations for the past while since we're on top, but being gracious in defeat is not something everyone is capable of, unfortunately. Congratulations on your win yesterday. The Irish are worthy advisaries on field and lekker people off the field.

@AC-hu3xk Ай бұрын

@raymonddixon7603 Great point. But just one game against an Irish side for 10 years who could not get past Qtrs in a world tournament can not read much into it. When it mattered, they delivered in WC, not once but twice. I'm just making a point, not trying to be mean. We understand the extacy feeling when finaly orgasam happens for the Irish even at the late stage .

@raymonddixon7603 Ай бұрын

@@AC-hu3xk I knew I would get your true colours to come jumping out.

@timbaker4253 Ай бұрын

Some World Cup players hung around for a couple of matches too long. Understandable that Rassie wanted to give them a chance to beat Ireland but it’s time now to make some hard calls and build for the future. Ireland were hungrier and we need a young and hungry team now. Boks don’t do well when they are lauded as the best and have achieved their goals (back to back world cups). They need to find their mongrel again.

@celticlofts Ай бұрын

Agreed: South Africa need to show their dominance between World Cups like the All Blacks did for so long. Just look at the attendance at last weekend's fixture, it was a packed house. Imagine having that all the time and the revenue that could generate for the sport in the country.

@gerhardvtonder Ай бұрын

I agree on Handre. There was an attacking ball he chipped it into their 22 they marked it. His goal line drop goal looks weak, if he miss time both kicks.

@ShawnDrymen Ай бұрын

Honestly i didn't think Frawley had that in the tank for clutch moments but man am I pleased to be wrong 😊

@douglasdejager8450 Ай бұрын

Those drop goals were classic rugby. Great to see. From a Bok fan.

@jackbeag 23 күн бұрын

Never doubted him from the night he made his debut for Leinster against Scarlett’s, was there and he had to kick a conversion straightaway as Ross Byrne I think had gone off injured. He’s world class and if he had been treated fairly by the manager who has just given us our third winless season in a row, Leinster would have done way better.

@daverogers2240 Ай бұрын

I think that, if Willie is out, they should play Manie at 10 & Sacha at 15 to do the kicking against All Blacks

@pacoraye8866 Ай бұрын

surely Willie cant be there for 2027 world cup...

@garyoconnor8421 Ай бұрын

Ireland lost 4 players to injury in the first game

@user-nk9cw5md8l Ай бұрын

And South Africa didn't have 5 of their world cup players for either test

@MattConnolly-wi8oh Ай бұрын

As well as the.key players who didn't even travel.

@natecoet3291 Ай бұрын

And it made them a better team.

@Cpchurch87 Ай бұрын

⁠@@user-nk9cw5md8land Ireland were missing JGP, Keenan, Hansen and Conan before the series even started. Both teams were battling injuries

@greenplasticgun Ай бұрын

Why do we even play rugby in Durban anymore

@user-qe1tv1bu2f Ай бұрын

Boks looked outclassed

@71bootneck Ай бұрын

One point

@mickeymouse-xr9gy Ай бұрын

Continuing to pick players that have been poor for some time. Kolisi, De Klek, Mbonambi. Picking Moerat and not playing him(I don't think management have confidence in him-he is the Dweba of the squad)Time to start picking players on form. Plenty of players being neglected. Boks kicking possession away. PSDT dropped leadership ball in last 5 minutes. Should have held onto ball.

@derekallan1341 Ай бұрын

mickeymouse comment

@71bootneck Ай бұрын

That’s right. You tell the 2WC winning coach what he must do. 😂😂😂😂

@pacoraye8866 Ай бұрын

makes it easier for Rassie as several players have played themselves out of the `bok sett up..Bongi too slow, Pollard hasnt got Manie natural attacking instincts and Faf getting slower...

@ruairioneill9393 29 күн бұрын

The reason there isnt a Third Test is because neither team would have the energy to play it! 😂

@ZO150ZO 29 күн бұрын

To build a team you need to accept loses adjustments to the squad + players to get fired up

@Mike-ym6rl Ай бұрын

My view of what needs to happen: Libbok is a better running and attacking flyhalf. Put a goal kicker like Pollard or Sasha at fullback to take all goal kicks. We need loose forwards with a massive work rate. Bring in Roos to number 8, Kwagga to number 6 and PSDT at number 7. Retire Kolisi....his days are done. Bring in Grant Williams at scrumhalf. Need a black captain? ....Bongi. To deal with injuries...Rassie can sort that out with the depth we have.

@johnmc3862 Ай бұрын

Good man Brenden!

@patrickfitzgerald5 Ай бұрын

Delighted Irish Fan. Springboks need to change some personnel- hannekom moodie roos etc

@smoozerish Ай бұрын

Good analysis👍

@tpkorea6c Ай бұрын

Shocked? No! They were maybe over coached and were brainless on the day. No robust forward play and no attack or defense from the backs. They had opportunities but penalties and silly mistakes made them look like a Primary school team. Ireland is a good team and the Boks better wake up or NZ and Australia will demolish them.

@javydones8299 Ай бұрын

Level headed analysis as always.

@craigbritz1684 Ай бұрын

You talk rubbish, you said - "the Boks didn't look like ever scoring a try". They came very close to the Irish goal line several times but just couldnt get through and finish off. Phenomenal defence by the Irish.

@JbRezurectd Ай бұрын

Are you serious? You literally just described what it looks like to look like not scoring a try. As a bok supporter I've become used to thinking that a 22 entry will maximum result in a penalty goal. A try is a rarity against good opponents

@heinrichgoliath4241 Ай бұрын

What he mentioned is with tony plan,,and not the penalty who created as usual for kicks 😮

@heinrichgoliath4241 Ай бұрын

Agree mannie are suit better on tony plan because he plays that style naturally instead of trying I really would like them to play the way the played the new zealand game before world cup

@mutafelaphiri4338 Ай бұрын

What happens when he misses kicks at goal?

@jadenphilander8799 Ай бұрын

@@mutafelaphiri4338 Sacha.

@jadenphilander8799 Ай бұрын

@@mutafelaphiri4338Libbok needs a Psychologist.

@michaelmoynihan9591 Ай бұрын

@@jadenphilander8799 poor Jackie 😂😂😂😂😂😂 sa lost again.

@jadenphilander8799 Ай бұрын

@@michaelmoynihan9591 Dont care . We were disgraceful yet were still leading by 80min, We never deserved the wikn if thry missed that drop goal.

@douglasdejager8450 Ай бұрын

Brendan the last test was sold out too.

@bkj3845 Ай бұрын

FAF is overrated, he thinks he is irreplaceable!

@alankennedy3747 29 күн бұрын

He has lovely hair. He should consider modelling.

@johnoconnell2446 Ай бұрын

Ireland adapt their game plan depending on the opposition. Having four top players out didn't affect the plan.The boks depend on strength to dominate.

@leightonkeutenius4455 Ай бұрын

Please the fans need to stop saying we had this many players out … no and no we SA don’t do that

@unleashedmystery Ай бұрын

World number one can’t score tries against us? I think it’s time we reevaluate who is the real number one. Ireland did that in South Africa with more injuries than South Africa scored tries 😮 proud of the lads and always a good game with these two teams playing but good to humble South Africans a little 😏

@pacoraye8866 Ай бұрын

who cares about being No1 in the world, as in golf and tennis, its all about the majors and the Rugby world Cup is Rugbys major..SA have 4 and a 50% strike rate is impressive...

@robinpengelley2123 Ай бұрын

It feels we need the new players the older ones look stale. Roos Thomas wilko Manie and one or two others would have made a difference. Kwagga and ox are better off the bench

@heinrichgoliath4241 Ай бұрын

Agree

@JPF468 Ай бұрын

1/1 is a fair result between theses two teams.i don’t really care if the boks.go into a slump for the next 2 years as long as we get number 5 at next WC

@michaelvdunne Ай бұрын

If your teams take the URC seriously it makes them better. Remember they will be against Welsh Scottish and Irish clubs. Then in the champions cup English and French clubs. It puts you in a better position than the Aussies and all blacks.

@francoisloubser5467 Ай бұрын

You can't win by kicking the ball away. So predictable. Didn't work once. A hell of a comeback thrown down the drain. Sorry Faf, I'm your biggest fan, but that was not a good decision

@fariedmanuel Ай бұрын

All of a sudden the Bok depth looks shaky and thin

@hanssmit1341 Ай бұрын

Durban is not good for the Springboks. SARU should give the stadium a rest for a while. Decade or two.

@MrOrange88888 Ай бұрын

Kings park is a cursed stadium

@TheCosmerenaut1 Ай бұрын

Can someone explain why we kept on restarting the same every time?? Scrummy box kicks from our 22 and it ends 15 metres in our half for Osborne to catch EVERY SINGLE TIME?? Not once did we catch the ball, I think we got a turnover once over it but makes you wonder what the possible reason to not pass it to sascha or pollard to boot like James louw. Also the game management was just horrendous with terrible discipline in the last minutes. We were very far from our best

@marloumoore8216 Ай бұрын

Hi, You must remember, in test rugby its very important to have a great "EXIT PLAN". If you look at it, It's actually a attacking option from our 22, and a safer option. If we kick it out immediately, it gives them a attacking line-out from our own 10 meter line immediately from the restart. (If you actually kick it that far out) However if we recover the ball or they knock on we get an attacking scrum and platform to get a good exit out of our own half. Ireland have a great exit plan to give louw an opportunity to kick long and far out, and they back themselves to defend that attacking line-out. BUT it did backfire when louw kicked far but not out (2nd half), when Sascha caught the ball and ran it back a few times, he looked dangerous and we almost scored of that. So in my opinion, I'd rather much stick to our exit plan because our forwards are a bit slower in defending a counter attacking team if we kick it long...😂

@mickodillon1480 Ай бұрын

No third test is a joke. WTF.

@jeffsteyn7174 Ай бұрын

Ag man. Its fine. I think the irish have something to worry about. They dont seem to be able to lift themselves two weeks in a row. Its fine if you playing a Italy and wales but if you playing a top team you have to do it week in week out.

@hermanvisser4034 Ай бұрын

Ireland could put everything on the line as it is the end of their season. The Springboks have to preserve some energy and avoid injuries for the Rugby championship and a long season ahead.

@alankennedy3747 29 күн бұрын

I hear a lot about us Irish saying we're number 1. Pure rubbish. Being 1 or 2 doesn't win you games. In fact not being ranked high helps us as we are far more comfortable as underdogs.

@gran4259 Ай бұрын

Springboks won this series on total points. Pollard restart went straight to the drop goal , nobody speaks about that loosing the game

@michaelmccarthy9411 Ай бұрын

Losing, not losing!

@jacquesrousseau5472 Ай бұрын

THE BOKS ARE STILL WORLD CHAMPIONS,WE ARE NOT GONA CRY OVER 1 LOSS .GO BOKKKKKKE

@BoomsRiddico4868 Ай бұрын

Wow, don’t put yourself forward as a sports motivational speaker. We are here to analyse the game and not to say ‘well aren’t we great, no issues with losing’

@johnoconnell2446 Ай бұрын

It's a game of strategy, skill and strength.The final score is not always a reflection on a great game of rugby.

@jacquesrousseau5472 Ай бұрын

@@BoomsRiddico4868 oh Shame thaught I heard someone in the peanut Gallery,The Irish going on if the Won the World Cup on Saterday.

@user-jw4yc3ec6y Ай бұрын

Going to sleep on the all blacks guys - wake up, ireland is history until a one off in 18 months

@leighsmith6927 Ай бұрын

FAF is so bad...there's way better 9's

@Ash0010 Ай бұрын

00-57!

@natecoet3291 Ай бұрын

Someone is bored on a Sunday.

@TheCosmerenaut1 Ай бұрын

2019, 2023 🏆

@wollie4358 Ай бұрын

This is the second time irish rugby players try to end rugbyplayers careers. First it was against Pat Lambie when cj stander tackle lambie what ended Lambies career. Now they tackle Marx, with a atempt to injured him. And nothing wil be done. World rugby must wake up

@some_might_say 29 күн бұрын

Boks need to toughen up and stop cheating

@GysbertDewet Ай бұрын

The blocking of runners trying to catch a high ball has to stop. Ireland had a wall of players blocking. How does that help the flow the game!

@kindakiwi5493 Ай бұрын

In the last Six Nations Ireland were beaten by England who were beaten 2 - 0 in the reecent series with the ABs. So Ireland beating the Springboks would suggest that the ABs are the world champions?

@michaelmccarthy9411 Ай бұрын

Don't be silly!