Understeer is worse as you see the tree that kills you.

@@j4ckcarter845 true dat

at least with oversteer you have a chance to change the direction of travel!

Richard hammond style

Top gear

Yes, but the root cause is a poor steering technique. In motorsport we have plenty of corners where you have to back off in the middle of them, when obviously driving right on the limit. We manage it bevause of proper steering technique.

@@RobManser77 No the root cause is the rear end weight shift, it's just not being prevented by proper steering angle. The steering angle doesn't cause the issue but it can fix it

It's all inertia and weight loading. Lift-off oversteer happens most often when a driver underestimates a corner, panics and lifts off the throttle harshly midway through, which as you mentioned brings the weight forward and off the rear tires but also engine braking begins to slow the car, further pushing the weight forward and thus the rear no longer has enough traction to resist the inertial pull to the outside of the corner. While pushing a car hard, avoiding excessive instant load changes on the tires is what keeps sudden oversteer at bay, this includes gentler and more reactive steering inputs and gentler throttle and braking inputs. So yes, poor "steering technique" can cause lift-off oversteer, but the root cause is ACTALLY just generally rough car control.

Very well put.@@billder7304

Yeah its kind of a self explanatory term

A wiser man than I 😂

it's called drifting. you can do this its safe

@@abuKaJeiN. on public roads and without helmets it's not safe

gta? howd you save it

There is only one way to learn drifting

Same here, got my backend sideways in a roundabout too, except it caught me offguard and could not recover. Was lucky not to hit anything though!

I still have my 2002-2004 fiesta. 300k km on it and still going strong. I really enjoy my little precious diesel :D

@@Kinsanth_ Those diesel Fiesta's are fantastic cars.

@@legioner9 i know. Oh, a tip, if you encounter the error eac fail. It could be worth, exchanging the alternator, the electronic component can cause problems, if its faulty. If you have the error eac fail, watch in a dark room with all carlights on, inndr and outer lights, if you see slight dimming in a very subtle way. If so, the alternator is faulty, even if it fully loads the carbattery and shows the correct amount of voltage

same thing happend to me with a fiesta also! I've had cars try to get out of my control but that was the longest and most controled "drift" of them all and I was going slow too, the road was just wet. Maybe old fiestas really are the true fwd drift kings and people have been missing out

And to top it off, they were all chilling on the porch and saw it happen. Was riding the bus to school for 2 months after that XD

Bro SAME SHIT HAPPENED LOL. I was late to work and coming in hot around 60mph, had to take a quick right but didnt notice a HUGE puddle of water. Started sliding a bit into the island, and just went full boost and made it out. Tires got a bit bald but better than body work 🤣

@Randyboobandy69 damn dude, dude you get there in time at least?

@@Fidelitye 1 minute to spare 💀

dont u need to floor it when the car starts to slide on rwd not fwd?

Really I thought u get the most lift off oversteer from a RWD car!!

@@mosswine5417 Depends on what you're doing with the throttle pedal at the same time.

for RWD it's the mid and rear engined cars that have a lot of it. weight is centred towards the rear. MR2 is notorious for it since it's so light and usually people have cheap road tyres so the grip is low.

@@mosswine5417 A lot of the time in FWD cars you will get understeer and once the front wheels regain traction it will unsettle the back end which in FWD cars is usually very light and cause snap oversteer. Its particularly bad when you get a car with good front tyres and shit back ones which happens a lot because the rear tyres last much longer and dry rot.

@@mosswine5417 It mostly has to do with the weight distribution no so much what wheel are driven. Take a 50/50 RWD Miata for example, not really easy to get lift off oversteer unless you are trying really hard to induce it. FWD usually is 60/40 at best (usually) but can be 70/30. Pickup tracks that are RWD are the very similar as well due to the bed at the rear by design to be able to load the bed with more weight capacity, they have to make the rear lighter. The RWD cars that are a bit more interesting are RR and MR configurations. Like the Toyota MR2 and Porsche 911. The 1980 Porche 911s hand the Engine behind the rear axle, the newer iterations moved it a bit more forward to be on the rear axle or a bit further forward. The Toyota MR2 and newer Porsche 911s have the engine between the center and rear axle, not actually in the center. This makes it have 40/60 front-rear weight distribution. This causes "snap oversteer" from the weight of the rear wanting to lead and turn the car aggressively under forward weight transfer like braking. Basically braking or taking the foot off gas(slowing down) will transfer the weight forward on any car, making the weight distribution even worse than it's static values, thus a vehicle that already has very low weight at the rear, just gets a lot worse, less grip on the rear.

uhhh kinda? I crashed this car two months later 😂 but that was more due to ice than bad technique. Lesson learned after that crash though! crashing a car is expensive lol

@@ZacsDashcamwhat were your expenses

​@@welln0wlarge

​@@welln0w bought car for £1300, sold it for scrap 6 minths later for £180 :(

@@ZacsDashcam probably could have got more if you stripped it yourself and sold the parts. pointless statement at this point but for future reference lol

Lol, see my comment 😂

Ngl assetto corsa skills have saved my ass a couple of times

Only use throttle if the car is fwd, using it on a rwd or some awd will make you spin even more

I think slamming the brakes in an FWD would work too, since they’re all heavy in the head, and will understeer?

​@@hongthainguyen5334not sure that's true, slamming the brakes send the weight to the front and makes rear light, sending it around!

@@ZacsDashcam yeah that’s one thing that still confuses me about racing, they say the lighter end starts sliding, but they also say tyres over the loading limit will also slide. Which is it?

@@hongthainguyen5334 you see in this scenario the front isn't overloaded. Otherwise it indeed would understeer. However the front axle is considerably more loaded then the rear as the car its turning causing the rear to start to overtake and the car to rotate.

rear engined moment 😬

Don’t forget suspension! Found this out in a similar way myself 😅

Tyres play a massive part.

priorities innit

after the corner lol

Nah that's the road calling you out! Gotta show it whos boss 😂

Don't forget beamng too

Genuinely has saved my ass a few times

Even I didn't notice this! that probably helped it rotate, thanks for the comment.

can confirm (i am a test-driver) however this only applies to fwd and some awd cars, if it's a rwd, just keep the throttle as it is and countersteer. NEVER brake in an oversteer situation!

it wasn’t a lead foot that caused this. It was lifting off the throttle that did it. You can hear the engine’s load go down quite a bit just before the sliding happens.

only racing myself lol

Speeding?

precisely right

😂😂😂

they're pretty planted normally, need some shitty tyres, a dirty road surface and 17yr old boy skill levels to make them loosen up lol

bruh yeah it's scary when you're not expecting it, glad you handled it though!

i had that in my Micra K11 on the racetrack in germany. went full beans, lifted the throttle mid corner and the rear stepped out, whole car powersliding over the curbs. was hella fun tho. (Hockenheimring turn 1)

all in the tyres :)