The DC-9 Story - Part 2: MD-80, MD-90 and Boeing 717

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Hello again! :D
For Part 2 of my look into the history of the DC-9 family, we go from the original barnstormer that was the Douglas DC-9 of the 1960s, to its unfortunate follow up for the 1980s and 90s, the McDonnell Douglas MD-80 Series, an improved range that was initially a major success, but quickly found that an outdated design, high fuel costs and the arrival of a new competitor in its market segment rapidly ate away the essential monopoly it once enjoyed, with successive upgrades in the form of the MD-90 failing to save the ailing McDonnell Douglas Company, and thus led to the very last variant of the DC-9 family, the MD-95, being released as a Boeing product, coming to pass as the modestly successful Boeing 717.
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@flaps45 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the DC-9. MD-80 series, and 717 all share the same Type Rating for pilot certification purposes, even though they are fairly different cockpits. In the words of a friend who was a 717 captain, "My license says DC-9, but don't ask me to fly one, I won't know how." From a practical perspective, what the common type rating means is that a pilot can transition from a DC-9 to an MD80 or 717 with a reduced amount of training, instead of having to complete a full aircraft training course.

@joesmie6919 Жыл бұрын

Well said and this is the same reason that the Airbus 320 family has been such a success.

@N330AA Жыл бұрын

Wow that footage of the tail snapping off is insane 4:26

@rudedog302 Жыл бұрын

Eastern lost a tail on a DC-9 the same way.

@kquttersanford3635 2 ай бұрын

But aircraft seems to still operate reverser still worked so that's good thing at least

@jonathankleinow2073 Жыл бұрын

RIP to TWA, Midwest Express, and even AirTran. I remember seeing ads for Hawaiian's new fleet of Boeing 717s while on vacation around 2000. I thought it was some brand-new airframe fresh from Boeing's development department and didn't realize until later that it was a warmed-over DC-9, although one that was very well done. Sadly, when Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merged, the same managerial team that couldn't figure out how to innovate or make money on the DC-9 became the leaders of the new company, and Boeing's history over the last 25 years reflects this lack of innovation and penny-pinching.

@jon-ie4li Жыл бұрын

Not surprised Swiss Air didn't fancy taking delivery of the Aircraft that had split in half and then stitched back together!!

@TheJchulce Жыл бұрын

RIP in peace Midwest Express Airlines

@totalrecone Жыл бұрын

The MD's are much loved here in 'Straya. They launch like a scolded cat and, completely irrationally on my behalf, they look the goods.

@jimbee7342 Жыл бұрын

You're not alone. It'll be a sad day when the B717 is gone from our skies.

@de-fault_de-fault Жыл бұрын

Many of us in the US love them, too. The AA ones in their Massimo Vignelli livery were an iconic sight at US airports for almost 40 years. Delta’s B717s are just about the last examples still flying here, and I’ll be sorry to see them go.

@JWB671 Жыл бұрын

Hawaiian airlines only uses 717's for their inter island flights!

@philip4193 Жыл бұрын

Just flew on a couple of Qantaslink B717's last week on a return trip to Hobart from Sydney. That deep shove back into my seat I felt when the pilot gunned the throttles on take-off (I had window seats at the rear both times so it was loud!) & then pointed the thing straight-up into the air once the wheels cleared the ground was exhilarating and something that I had not experienced since flying on B727 tri-jets from short runways back in the day. The landings were just as eventful, with the nimble little jet performing steep turns on both approaches, with extreme bank-angles and brisk descent rates not usually encountered in commercial aviation nowadays. It will be a shame when these great littles planes are eventually retired in favour of more bland Airbus offerings...

@skyblot741 Жыл бұрын

My father crewed one of the first DC9's delivered to Australia, then flew them for many years. As a youngster I spent more than a few flights in the jump seat. The designers absolutely nailed the shape - best looking airliner ever in the DC9-30 model!

@calebemerson9317 Жыл бұрын

Nothing like the roar of a JT8D. I miss those AA Mad Dogs!

@rodmanser7573 Жыл бұрын

JT8-200's of the MD-80s were really quiet when they came out compared with the baby 8's of the 727's. Airport neighborhoods really appreciated the difference.

@jumpinjack1 Жыл бұрын

2:21 The guys name building the cockpit skeleton was Ernie Flowers dept 546, excellent worker, Flower Power! lol

@mikerichards6065 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always. The MD80 lives on - in a way - as the Chinese built COMAC ARJ21 which was certified as recently as 2017; looks like those MD80 blueprints turned out to be very useful indeed.

@donnafromnyc Жыл бұрын

Honorable mention to New York Air, which was an early customer for the MD-80 by fall 1983, added to a fleet of DC-9-30s.Those Mad Dogs went to Continental after the 1987 "big bang" consolidation of CO/NY/PE. Ironically, NY was also an early customer for the 737-300. I was NY's ad manager June 1983 to Dec 1986 and one of the first things I worked on was the MD-80 intro which was a very big deal for us. And I have to say, an elegant livery, red with the logo in white in the specially designed New York Bauer typeface and the signature stylized apple on the tail.

@DiRF Жыл бұрын

In the '90s through the early 2000's, I flew Spirit, Valujet and AirTrain numerous times up and down the US East Coast, so these planes hold a very dear place in my heart. Great video.

@RedArrow73 Жыл бұрын

Delta still flies a few. They can be seen at KDAL on occasion.

@Hurts1983 Жыл бұрын

@@RedArrow73 nope. Retired in 2020.

@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын

@@RedArrow73 they fly the 717.

@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын

@@Hurts1983 717s are still around.

@RedArrow73 Жыл бұрын

@@mirzaahmed6589 Yes, exactly.

@craigjackson2428 Жыл бұрын

Throughly enjoyed the facts you presented. I have a fondness for the DC-9-30 and BAC-111 with Allegheny/USAir as a kid first flying solo commercially. Louisville airport, being a midsized air service markets routinely saw DC-9, 727 and 737s. Those aircraft collectively built the US economy from small and midsized communities. Thanks again for the great work and effort preserving archive record of aviation history.

@burntnougat5341 Жыл бұрын

Always a soft spot for the definitive t jet. Many memories flying these great birds out of DFW

@McRocket Жыл бұрын

I wish all documentary videos were like these. No elaborate intro/exit/music/graphics/BS. Just start and finish. With basic graphics at the end. And none of that RIDICULOUS 'please like, subscribe,...blah blah blah' nonsense'. Why do people put these in their videos? Obviously, if we like them enough - we will like and subscribe. Duh. BTW, I enjoyed this video. Thank you for making it. ☮

@matthewsmatters Жыл бұрын

Always been fascinated by the DC9s and MD80s. Slightly before my time so never flown on one in the UK. Interest comes from my mum working on them before I came along. She was cabin crew for British Midland, who I believe flew DC9s short and medium haul before switching allegiance to the 737 camp. People thought she was crazy for joining them in ‘89 just after the Kegworth disaster. Incredible video as always - thank you!

@cellpat2686 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for part 2 Ruaridh, I have seen part 1, and I was eagerly waiting for this. You don't disappoint, your narration work is outstanding as usual.

@nicholasjohnson6724 Жыл бұрын

I wish McDonnell Douglas, Lockheed, Dassult and Convair were still building beautiful airliners.

@Horseshoecrabwarrior Жыл бұрын

Funny seeing this as my first video from you. I flew on a 717 just a week ago, on a short Delta flight.

@SunJetViking Жыл бұрын

SAS had MD90s as well. Great videos as usual 👌

@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын

Only 8 of them and quickly phased them out. But were big operators of the MD-80 with over 80.

@zanelindsay1267 Жыл бұрын

Another fast-paced fact-filled fascinating documentary for "Motion History" !

@melvyncox3361 Жыл бұрын

Great job mate.l personally love Douglas aircraft, especially the DC-8 in all it's forms.

@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын

Great part 2 Rory. A small addition... The md-90 was supposed to have a full flat panel glass cockpit from the md11. The 5 Saudia frames indeed have this cockpit. But Delta I assume wanted commonality with the flight deck of their md88s.

@barrydysert2974 Жыл бұрын

i was barely conscious of the existence of the 717 let alone it's relevance to the McDonald-Douglas story. Thank You !:-)

@jimru5574 Жыл бұрын

OUTSTANDING presentation: well researched and narrated, with exceptional photos and facts. I was an Avionics Engineer for Midwest Airlines, and maintained/modified our fleet of DC-9 and MD-83/88 aircraft. I was also on the flight test team (Customer) for the B-717, as it entered revenue service with Midwest. During manufacturing at Longbeach, the rudders were the only painted items which divulged the livery scheme, so it was easy to determine which B-717 was destined for AirTran, and which would fly from Milwaukee with Midwest. Thanks for the memories: your efforts are much appreciated!

@mikeschumacher Жыл бұрын

Always enjoyed flying on Hawaiian's 717s. They are one of my favorite short-haul aircraft: quiet, fairly comfortable, and was always a little surprised at the engine's power at takeoff.

@burntnougat5341 Жыл бұрын

Let's be honest, you just liked the guava juice they give aboard Hawaiian

@mikeschumacher Жыл бұрын

@@burntnougat5341 I admit the guava juice was good, and it made flying with my fellow passengers better. I wasn't able to fly AirTran or Midwest Express before they were acquired; I've heard the cookie on Midwest Express was the best food perk on flights in the USA.

@c128stuff Жыл бұрын

Something which would be impossible, and unimaginable in todays world... as a kid I've been in the captains seat of a flying dc-9 for a couple minutes.

@JAMESWUERTELE Жыл бұрын

I did that once as a kid in the the 80’s. I can’t remember if it was a 727, or a 737. Such good times. I got my wings.

@lIII0IIIl Жыл бұрын

That’s Bad-Ass!

@JenniferinIllinois Жыл бұрын

The MD-8x series was very popular with upstart low cost airlines here in the US. I flew on a few with Allegiant.

@Glacifly Жыл бұрын

8:00 The MD-83 was actually the same length as the other MD-8x variants, save the 87. The MD-87 was the only variant of the family with a differing fuselage length.

@rodmanser7573 Жыл бұрын

There are several inaccuracies in this video and some likely misspoken items and/or typos on the script. I don't want to embarrass the narrator to enumerate them but i counted at least half dozen basic oops's.

@rynovoski 3 ай бұрын

@@rodmanser7573 What else did you notice? I guess the MD-88 does not have the fuel capacity of the MD-83.

@gendaminoru3195 3 ай бұрын

@@rynovoski Your best bet is to go to "Douglas Twinjets" by Thomas Becher. I haven't noticed any inaccuracies there and thy cover a lot of things. I still have all the manuals, reports and nose to tail drawings from when we hired Douglas SME engineering managers and production people for our STCs. Glad you at least care enough to ask.

@breathtakingblue Жыл бұрын

Brilliant series this Ruairidh! Thoroughly enjoyed it. You always put 110% into your videos, you're a real master! 👌

@ChrisCebelenski Жыл бұрын

Personal reflection: Oldest DC-9 was a series 15 I flew on Northwest sometime in the 90's. It was pretty old by then. I flew a ton of MD-80's with American in the 90's, and with Midwest Express in the 90's also. ME was a great airline, and all their planes were 2+2 seating, and they baked fresh cookies aboard. I don't recall any MD90 or 717 flights, so my schedules must have not aligned with their usage. It's been at least 20 years now since I've flown any of these, with most having been replaced by regional jets or feeder regional airlines as the industry shifted. I don't have any numbers, but I imagine that 9/11 was the death of many of the older DC9 variants.

@flemmingsorensen5470 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are always of exeptional quality 👍👍👍

@justme-hh4vp Жыл бұрын

4:23 Swissair: Nah, you can keep that one!

@HeavyPilot83 11 ай бұрын

As a new 717 pilot for Delta Air Lines, part I and part II of this series was a fantastic, historical look into my new aircraft. Can't wait to fly it!

@user-pg6xs9sp6l 4 ай бұрын

I’ll be seeing you then - frequently get a ride on these birds with Delta. Just need good earplugs if I get a seat in the back row!😊

@thomasburke7995 Жыл бұрын

The biggest asset the DC-9 series had was that is ground handling equipment was not required to service it. All cargo and fuel and lavatories could be done by hand and even catering and passengers loading/unload if in a pinch. ITS BIGGEST SHORTFALL was the engines and the wing design, as the fuselage lengthened the power to wieght ratio shrank . The airframe just needed more power then jt8 , v2500 or the RR could produce. By the time the hull got to the MD-80 series the wings lifting capability rapidly started to diminish the solution was bigger engines.

@michaelvaughn2091 Жыл бұрын

Fly on Delta's various iterations of the type more times than I can count. Still occasionally find myself on a 717. All are among my favorite aircraft.

@GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm 19 күн бұрын

Enjoyed the information and the video was presented in excellent continuity with the audio. Thanks for sharing your research and experiences for this video. 🙈🙉🙊 😎 🇺🇸

@emmanuelpower2439 Жыл бұрын

Wonderfully concise. So well researched.

@LMays-cu2hp Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this aircraft. I flew on this DC-9 aircraft back in the 1980s.

@oleeide9763 Ай бұрын

Again and again: the DC-9 was very flexible.. Indeed it was, in 1998 I was commuting every week with SAS from Bergen to Oslo, and my favorite seating was isle in one of the rear seats, espesially in the aging DC-9s by looking at the seat row you could easily see the air frame flexing after takeoff and again when landing 😊.. Some flexing also in the MDs but not that much.. I loved the DC 9 range of airplanes, it had a lot of charm, or maybe it was the service back then 😅..

@lukalevstek7851 Жыл бұрын

MD-80 family airplanes are just so elegant. I remember Inex Adria later Adria Airwayes operating them in eighties and nineties.

@auntbarbara5576 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful Rory, thank you!

@rskurtzer Жыл бұрын

I have fond memories of flying Midwest Express DC9’s as a kid, thanks for using the Midwest plane as a cover photo.

@Hurts1983 Жыл бұрын

The MD-80 was my childhood aircraft. Insel Air and ALM flew them all the time around the Dutch Caribbean. I miss them...

@camaro5081 Жыл бұрын

Boeing did offer a stretch version called the 717-300. If I remember correctly, Boeing did get a single order for this variant.

@xm1429 Жыл бұрын

MD-82, my first ever flight! Love it!

@isaaclong-dq5hy Жыл бұрын

The DC-9, MD-80 series MD-90 series and Boeing 717 aircraft would look soooo good with winglets 🥵🥵

@rwm2986 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a very comprehensive review I enjoyed flying on MD80s. One of the most comfortable aircraft ever.

@dezzadiggler3693 3 ай бұрын

Your video is excellent! Researched well; and perfectly presented in a clear, concise manner.

@robg5958 Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation! I worked on DC9s for Air Canada and they truly were great reliable aircraft. However, they were simply no match for the A320. Would you consider making a video about aircraft repair and overhaul fascilities in Europe? In particular, ASL Lemwerder, formerly MBB. It's a much overlooked area and has suffered a lot from globalisation and cheap unsafe competition from Asia.

@VickersV Жыл бұрын

Well done the best of the dc9 md11 brilliant

@NakulDalakoti Жыл бұрын

The most interesting part is that COMAC, the Chinese plane maker makes ARJ-21 which is vey similar to DC-9/717. They used experience from assembling MD-80 to develop ARJ-21

@68404 2 ай бұрын

Very similar..

@eottoe2001 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful planes with the CG so far back. TY for the video. .

@joesmie6919 Жыл бұрын

Having the CG so far back was a major problem for loading baggage on the MD-80s. Although the baggage compartments were long, they were not tall nor wide so each one didn't hold all that many bags. Because of the extreme aft CG, the majority of the bags needed to be loaded in the forward compartment or the plane would be too tail-heavy. Many a ramp agent cursed these planes as they toiled to stuff as many bags as possible up front.

@eottoe2001 Жыл бұрын

@@joesmie6919 beauty always comes with a price. 🙂

@shtehfaw Жыл бұрын

As a kid in the early 2000s I frequently flew between California and Texas, and it was a 50/50 chance I was either in a Super 80 or a 737. I always preferred the 737 because it had in-flight TV entertainment.

@craigsibley8161 Жыл бұрын

Good stuff 👍👍👍

@alexp3752 Жыл бұрын

Former Airline EVP (Technics) and resident representative to Douglas Aircraft and Boeing: I oversaw production for not only our fleet, but later for additional carriers when I retired. In short, working with Douglas with the MD-80, 95 (B-717) was simply wonderful! Without doubt, top quality people, engineers, artisans and inspectors on the production line, excellent workmanship, attention to detail, etc. In my view, anything to the contrary is simply not true. If I had to choose a quality aircraft for my own personal use, it would be the MD-95/717 hands down!

@PatrickNorrie Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@leg01 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always. However you forgot to mention Spanair flight 5022 that crashed after take off from Madrid. It was an MD82. Tragic accident from one of the last operators of the type in Europe.

@HJBounell Жыл бұрын

"just enough range to get it out of france"...........OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only Drachinifel is in this class!

@cyberi4a Жыл бұрын

I always liked the look of the MD80 types, they always looked long, fast and sleek.

@andrewyoung3299 Жыл бұрын

QANTAS have the 717's in their fleet. They do look good, but haven't been on one

@Steph-pn2kq 7 ай бұрын

In late 2023 they're still flying, although being phased out for A220s. They're my favourite jet to load.

@68404 2 ай бұрын

Qantaslink

@andrewyoung3299 2 ай бұрын

Same company

@stuartlee6622 7 ай бұрын

Oh, I so miss Eastern!!

@TW1257 Жыл бұрын

Delta is still flying the 717.

@MasterOfDickery Жыл бұрын

So is Hawaiian.

@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын

For another 5 years at least.

@michaelmichniak127 Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyGeneric145 Yes till about 2030! Delta is slowly putting stored 717's back into service and by next year should have 80 active in it's fleet. Before Covid they had 92.

@charlesmoss8119 Жыл бұрын

How odd that Mercedes have moved into the space vacated by two renowned aircraft builders - Douglas in the US and Vickers in the UK, though of course the Weybridge site is a new build.

@budwhite9591 Жыл бұрын

The fact that someone had to actively refuse McDonald Douglas from selling them a test aircraft that the tail broke off - what the hell. If I didn’t know that McDonald Douglas builds death traps, I might question their motives

@13Photodog Жыл бұрын

I flew on Air Tran 717 on several occasions and enjoyed them.

@Sacto1654 Жыл бұрын

I think McDonnell-Douglas should have offered a major engine retrofit program for the operational MD-80 models. Switching to the Pratt & Whitney PW6024 engine around 2003-2004 could have kept the MD-80's still operational even in 2023.

@neilhaas Жыл бұрын

I love the D-C9 nice airplane aircraft.

@walterpleyer261 Жыл бұрын

For many Austrians Austrian Airline for decades was synonymous with the MD 80 series

@mick1545 Жыл бұрын

Like it was for the Finns as Finnair´s backbone European fleet consisted of DC-9´s and MD80 from the early seventies well into the 2000´s.

@burntnougat5341 Жыл бұрын

Same with AAL in the mid 2000s

@johnosbourn4312 Жыл бұрын

The KC-135 is not based on the 707, instead, it has a shorter, narrower fuselage, and its wingspan is shorter that that of the 707.

@imonymous Жыл бұрын

Right, it's even designated internally as the 717-100.

@Hurts1983 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. The 707 is based off of the KC-135.

@jaysmith1408 Жыл бұрын

AirTran was a fairly small airline that was taken over by ValuJet to dodge the name. Operationally it was still ValuJet (as which I would refer to AirTran).

@leeoldershaw956 Жыл бұрын

You got it reversed

@joesmie6919 Жыл бұрын

Jfsa is correct, ValuJet merged with AirTran and adopted their name to disguise their tarnished reputation after the crash of flight 592 and Value Jet's subsequent grounding by the FAA. FUN FACT - ValueJets DC9-30s (the "Turkey Birds") were parked at the airport in Kingman Arizona when the airline was grounded.

@hikarikaguraenjoyer9918 Жыл бұрын

7:43 China Airlines never ordered the MD-82, they stuck with the 737. It was CAAC (then the PRC's only airline) who ordered the MD-80 family

@mcjdubpower Жыл бұрын

Gud vid 😍

@AzTrailRider57 Жыл бұрын

Umm... Mr MacVeigh, wasn't there a crash in Detroit involving an MD80 that killed all aboard except on little girl? Pilot forgot to use the flaps on takeoff. Flight 255?

@rottenhead8385 Жыл бұрын

hate that crash with all my heart...

@jonathanbeaumont3021 Жыл бұрын

The MD-83 is not a stretched version of the 81/83. Externally, its the exact same size as the previous versions

@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын

Rory, Rory tell us a story!

@johnsowerby7182 Жыл бұрын

Dear God.. the footage of the tail coming off!

@robertoperezaguirreeliasca7559 Жыл бұрын

I flew DC9 15/30 for 20 years 24/7/365 80-100 hrs. X month Scheduled air carrier in México & USA Day Night VFR IFR Down to minimums

@brendangarvin7787 Жыл бұрын

No mention of the Comac ARJ21, an aeroplane that looks suspiciously similar to the MD95.

@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын

Not worth giving any credit to those thieves.

@leeoldershaw956 Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyGeneric145 The Chinese version was a collaboration for production, not theft. The jigs were transferred.

@MichaelSeaBelA 4 ай бұрын

Today is 4 months since the 40th anniversary of the crash of Air Illinois Flight 710 near Pinckneyville, Illinois due to the flightcrew's mismanagement of electrical generator and distribution problems. All 10 passengers and crew were killed in the accident. Why couldn’t Air Illinois purchase a few DC-9-10 series?! Maybe access to spare parts would have been easier as well as better training for pilots and Air Illinois may stay in business longer than disappearing in 1984. If the airplane for Air Illinois Flight 710 was a DC-9-10 series, the accident may never have happened.

@alan-sk7ky Жыл бұрын

Nearly there Ruairidh 🙂

@TregTube Жыл бұрын

I may have missed something here, but did I see thrust reverse deployed in-flight at 5:36 ?

@oldfatbastad6053 Жыл бұрын

yes you did, i copped it on first look.

@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын

Certification requirements... It simulates a reverser unlocking in flight. They have to demonstrate getting the plane on the ground.

@TregTube Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyGeneric145 thank you! I did wonder if it was some kind of check. Certainly not an every day occurrence to see it

@saucerbob Жыл бұрын

As the software guy, maintaining the MD-80 simulators at Long beach, I did it regularly on the simulator. A great two years in southern California for this Canadian 😎

@marcosrodriguez6228 Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I am wrong but you failed to mention the MD82 Spanair crash at Madrid Barajas airport in 2008 killing 154 people.

@m.hstudioproductions6642 Жыл бұрын

And the crash of Northwest Airlines Flight 255 in Detroit during August 16, 1987.

@colinofay7237 Жыл бұрын

It would help If you put part one in link on description here A with part 1, put part two (2) in that description

@ScottJLake1 3 ай бұрын

Strange, this is the same company that runs Boeing now. Seems like there may be some similarities.

@Inetman Жыл бұрын

10:10 - what source are you citing? There were no Tristars in Aeroflot, and not even a talk about building Lockheed planes in USSR. There was just one demonstration of Tristar in Moscow at 1974 or so...

@claymag9803 Жыл бұрын

9:33 are you sure Azul has ordered MD-planes? Which Azul airlines do you mean?

@paulqueripel3493 Жыл бұрын

23:10 , the very last products of MD in terms of design? Commercial maybe, not military.

@nts821 Жыл бұрын

Part 3: ARJ 21

@saltyroe3179 11 ай бұрын

The final straw that killed McDonnell Douglas was Airbus. Airbus was highly subsidized in order create Economic union in the EU. The MD aircraft could not compete with well financed Airbus and the fact that EU airlines would buy Airbus as a matter of government policy. Unfortunately the good management at Boeing seemed to be infected with MD bad management practices.

@syedputra5955 Жыл бұрын

B-717 could have been a viable a220 competitor.

@jaik195701 4 ай бұрын

Mad Dog

@shamusmcmillin Жыл бұрын

Imagine getting on an already terrible spirit airlines flight and then finding out that your plane was poorly made in China

@Oliviiiful Жыл бұрын

Twice i had booked flights and when i arrived at the gate and saw it was a dc9 and a md80 i turned back and decided to reschedule my flight. Both planes crashed. Was very happy whit my decision 😊

@rottenhead8385 Жыл бұрын

OMG

@TheHylianBatman Жыл бұрын

Those wings still look a bit too small for me.

@imonymous Жыл бұрын

I used to think the same thing. It looks better if you see it top down.

@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact... The youngest md80 is younger than the oldest 737NG.

@psa722 Жыл бұрын

That would be the last MD-83 off the line, N984TW, the Spirit of Long Beach, which I had the pleasure of flying on between St. Louis and Kansas City, my last TWA flight.

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

Could you make these in podcast form please

@leeoldershaw956 Жыл бұрын

The 737 was the wrong aircraft to survive. The Douglas design would never have had the engine ground clearance problem that the 737 suffered from the very beginning and led to the 737 max debacle. That will probably eventually bankrupt Boeing.

@airdailyx Жыл бұрын

If the B717 were still in production today, the C-Series and next-gen Embraers would not exist. AirTran tried hard to lobby boeing for more 717’s but Boeing wanted it gone and gave AirTran discounts on the 737 instead. Fedex tried hard to lobby boeing on the MD-11 as well. And Boeing said come back with 200 orders and we’ll keep it going. So FedEx lobby the number of cargo airlines and came back with the 200 orders and boeing said well you just called our bluff. No more MD-11’s. So Fedex upset with Boeing looked to the Airbus A380 and the rest is history.

@realdiallo224 8 ай бұрын

Interesting. Did anyone want to keep the MD90 in production too?

@leezinke4351 Жыл бұрын

Still more attractive than Airbus A-320 series and B737M.

@marshalllucky Жыл бұрын

My friend Davis , always he buy one of these old birds off there ebays , sure he does no get as much gas mileage as his buick but always he will arrive in supreme comforts :-(