Everyone suffers from permanent death? why do you need to put permanent before death?

U could just use a revive spell, also what som dem were innocent

Whos victims?

The thing is …at least these prisoners kind of know when they gonna die .. where as we dnt know when our death will come .. but it defo will come defo…

@@gregorycook5305 “murder” and “death penalty”?

You missed the point entirely.

If anything, that’s another great reason to never release them…

@@kovy689 No one is talking about releasing anyone in the video

@@KLienne Wasn’t talking to you…

I agree with you yet in keeping a person who is mentally ill in prison for life versus the death penalty seems like a conundrum because either way tax payers will pay the price for either outcome. It makes me wonder, despite the crime committed that sentenced that person to the death penalty, does their execution cost less than housing them in prison for life? Others could question and wonder - what do tax payers get out of spending money on a person who should never be free?

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Exactly 💯!! All I hear is excuses!!!

What's being shown here in the video isn't "mental illness," it's psychosis, which is far worse, and if you think psychosis isn't a justification, then you are a danger to either yourself or others, because you are ok with psychotic people being murdered for behaving like psychotic people. That's a sure hallmark of mental illness, and you need to get that fixed.

I don't think anyone is making that argument. The issue is that _sometimes_ severely mentally ill people genuinely don't understand what they're doing when they commit a violent crime like killing someone. It's not justifying their actions to acknowledge that they weren't in control of themselves, it's just acknowledging the reality of their medical condition and the impact it has on their behavior. Prisons are not equipped to handle people like this.

@@jfm14 Exactly. For the longest time we have shunned people from talking about and told them they need to keep it to themselves. Not to mention that the services that are constantly pitched at the masses are for profit and don't really help people out. Example: Better Help. This is also partially because people don't want their taxes to helping "certain people" on their dime. These are the consequences of our stingy trashy healthcare system. You reap what you sow.

as another survivor of a murder attempt i want to say that i am so glad you guys are okay

thank you for sharing your story ♡

He should have been in a physciatric unit. And his meds should have been compulsory

I am very sorry for your loss.

I am sorry for your loss, but im sure he wont be missed. It was either him or yall! And the Lord chose you and your mother.

And why do we care

Yes yes yes yes

​@@bradygamess Speak for yourself bud, you need to change "We" to "I"

@@codyjohnson2821 Why do you care?

Are we really more than just mammals. Maybe the most disciplined, the smartest, so we are allowed to control ourselves through our intelligence, but yes we don't have full control, but we all try

Ya

There’s a documentary about this case (I think on Amazon Prime?), and he participates in that as well

This lady is always on the inmates side

Of course it is. One look at that lady and the short hair and you know she’s a commie. 😎✌🏻

Exactly, as a former CO people like her and this idealistic mentality is why I left. She is living in a dream world

I'm constantly in Prisons. It depends on the prison. My grandmother's older brother was in prison for life for a double murder. A crime of passion. The only reason they didn't fry him was cause he took out two other blacks, so being in the south, they didn't see it as such a bad thing. He did them a favor. He definitely deserved to be in prison, but there are people there that are falsely accused and then there are some that are there for smaller nonviolent things. I have clients that were in for attempted murder or manslaughter that now that they are out are better behaved then people who have never been in at all. I would say that for me, I need an already documented history of mental illness. Just saying it because they are no realizing the gravity of what they have done isn't quite enough for me. I would have to do more research.

It wouldnt be a very interesting show if she just had 30 second interviews where she told everyone "You're a monster, die." She plays devil's advocate because these are important topics and the discussion is just as important. Maybe there are lessons we can learn from these cases to prevent future tragedy

So we should base our judicial system off of our emotions?

​@soccerguy325 the definition of a hero is someone who has made an ethical decision despite the difficulty.

@@benjaminfranklin8412 I don't care what the definition of a hero is. What I care about is how we engage with our criminal justice system. We don't need "heroes" to dole out punishment.

Yawn.

I'm your 183rd like. Lets get this to 200 :)

Vice reporters are ripe for manipulating

Exactly.

...and some are EXTREMELY MENTALLY ILL. ...which is why we need to learn to tell the difference. It's essential that we understand everything we can about the link between mental disorders and violent crime.

@@clicheguevara5282 Sometimes they are both. Have you ever considered that? Then what?

​@@clicheguevara5282an excuse used to justify/excuse abhorrent behavior rather than take responsibility fir one's actions.

Agreed! I hate that some ppl believe that’s a justifiable excuse.

Mental illness as it's portrayed being prevalent, like anxiety, ptsd, depression, and so on are a hoax.

Is anyone saying it is?

Literally nobody (Himself included) is saying that Jesus did you even watch the video ?

​@@jman0022just ignore the politician defending him lmao

Ikr this lady acting like he is a saint. All the top comments are like nah this guy deserves to be there lol.

God shows us mercy EVERYDAY.

Well he might have a mental illness, that’s could be why he did those murders a mind problem

The victims matter and so do the victims of the pharmaceutical industry who did the murdering. They didn't ask for psychosis when they were still children. That psychosis lasts a lifetime - it's a long term affect of the drugs they were put on, usually for being Autistic. Even when the drugs are out of their systems, the neurological damage is permanent. They don't know what they're doing. This isn't about excuses - it's about reality. It's immoral and unethical to kill people who "acted out" because of the damage done to their brains by drugs given them by doctors and their parents when they were children.

You're right 😍​@@Texas_Made91

Sadly a lot of people with Schizophrenia and similar disorders don't like taking their meds or don't think they need them....and then they end up in the bad situations.

I agree while having schizophrenia doesn't make you anymore violent than the next person. Not taking medication along with other factors such as substance misuse and having visual and auditory hallucinations can be a dangerous mix. There needs to be a lot more community support too for them and their families to monitor these things.

@@mysterymaverick1982 you couldn’t be more right. My mom has her house attached to the back of my grandmas and they make sure everything is okay. Plus it gives her company.

Wow they healed his illness in 3 days He can self dx himself too All ridiculous His actions were in humane He should be away from others so they can be safe

@@wendytwynter Calm it. I can agree he is responsible for his actions. All im saying is people like him need support. People that deal with what he has can struggle with staying in reality for some it can be so bad they even get scared about whats happening. I think he should be locked up but knowing the system I truly hope he is being treated as a human as we all should be.

thank you, please stay safe

We don't need mental education, we need access to mental care. Lack of access to medicine costs lives.

Very true if more people were educated on what could happen to them in the future instead of just being immature in school. I think that could help kids be more understanding of others too, very much a win win for society. If we were taught about it than someone having something happen to them could realize whats happening instead of hurting others.

@@cancerino666We need both in my opinion someone may not know to seek out care and think the way they're living is normal and not realize a better life is possible for them

Or maybe adults and parents who work with children should be educated on mental illness because that would reach a lot of possible jury members and allow people to identify early signs, though most people don’t develop it until they are grown up. So…

Bunch of bullsh!t

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They only have this so called mental illness when they are in the process of committing a murder. Any other time they are sane. To me real mental illness is when you walk out in the middle of the freeway during rush hour but these people have enough since not to do that but not enough since not to commit murders.

Well how many ppl does he have to kill before you say he has a mental illness

Knew exactly what he was doing.... miss me with the sob story....

exactly and i love the whole tone of this video. as if im supposed to care about a child murderer

I think you missed the point of the video. Mental Healthcare needs to improved. Had these people gotten the help when they needed it and not been allowed to do whatever they want, some of these crimes wouldn't occur

@@sinn3r911 that’s a hypothesis, that has no factual evidence to support. Many folks kill when they have everything. Crimes still occur.

Nasty work

Reading this grossed me out, oml. That is HORRIFYING

Oooweee 🤦🏾‍♂️

Yes !! 😮 really insane that people could even do such things smh

@@v.g7279RIGHT, maybe he’s not human

Nobody wants to talk about how the health care system is beyond repair and for people with mental illness it’s basically impossible to do anything. The only people that benefit are the very few who actually respond well to the antidepressants doctors shove down our throats every day and become dependent on. There’s no such thing as getting to see a therapist that k owns what they’re doing unless you have the money to pay for a good one, otherwise the lower class/poor therapists that are offered are glorified guidance counselors

This 👆

​@@Anime2077ttvlmao be honest with yourself most don't take their meds or don't give them time to work, they use drugs, and they try to self Medicate and act like doctors aren't doing anything. Most of it is on us to take better care of ourselves. Proper nutrition, sleep, etc. People are just shitty.

Same thing here in the UK.

Best statement here

I agree 100%

The pastor that appeared is Jeff Hood, he has his own agenda.

i get it, but they are using it as a way to say “state sponsored murder”

@@alw_9911 you said it better.

@@alw_9911 I understand that is what they meant. innocent people have definitely been put to death by the state. I don't support the death penalty. I don't know why, but the used that protester used just didn't sit right with me for this situation. It's complicated I guess.

I'm praying for my brother 🙏 better days are coming

Depression and anxiety isn't the same as being a schizo😂

He ate one

let him live with you.

@@xreediculousx we’re not talking about who he lives with. We’re talking about whether he lives or dies.

@@donnellcorbett7077 apparently that didn’t make him mad enough..

​@@tomatofaceddisgracelet him live with you

This is fiction. Did you check if anyone there has the body parts required to play?

@@bunk95 who cares if it's fiction or not i stand by what i said😅😅

Educate yourself on mental illness

You can be in prison and be innocent. You can defend yourself and kill someone and still tried and convicted.

@@thepurplevelvet “thanks for [the story],” Jeff Tweedy.

They can not take rejection. Black femicide happens every 4.8 hours due to inability to move on, being told no/take rejection, and domestic violence.

EVERY 1.75 HRS NOW.

Justice 🎉

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Justice. Lots of us survived torture. By a repeat offender.

@@pennyc11 I’m not gonna say he didn’t deserve it but the rest of the world still looks at us like we’re Neanderthals with our approach to capital punishment

@@mantistoboggan2599 Exactly - would never happen in Denmark or any other western country in Europe. Belarus is the only European country who still have the death penalty. First of all, death penalty is not an option - because the system would be considered no better than the criminal. Death penalty doesn't belong in a modern society. Next, people with severe mental illness who are psychotic in the moment of their crimes, should be treated for their mental illness and sentenced to lifelong treatment if serious crimes. It is possible to distinct between psychosis and manipulative behavior. Actually we are quite good at that, the US too, among other things using malingering tests. I think the worst thing in the US system is the failure not to give people proper treatment - it's a huge failure. Way too primitive for a western country.

Exactly and i watched this story on Evil Lives Here, he killed the mom and little girl out of jealousy/insecurity, he was not her bio dad and she had a close relationship with her own dad who was still very involved in her life😢

Mentally weak people are easy to break

My problem is..,...WHY THESE WOMEN ,(MANY HAVE KIDS ALREADY) IN THESE RELATIONSHIPS ALWAYS PUT THEIR KIDS IN THESE SITUATIONS.....

@@user-zr3jv6bt5j probably because they cant see the future?

@@aaa-hs3it Maybe they could do background checks.....You think 🤔🤔🤔 Maybe .......just a thought.........But,if you , yourself let people into your house that your perogative..... Stay safe

I have a daughter with the same disorder and I agree the system is broken.

I am so sorry for all of the loss, on all levels. You deserve to know this information, as it's pertinent to the case and serving justice. I also have an adult child with the same issues and the law prevents me from helping them, while the state prevents them from helping themselves. It's also happened to a life long friend with her adult child as well, who ended up serving time. While serving time her daughter was denied medication and my friend had to fight for months to have her placed in a facility that would allow her medication. The reason the crime was committed in the first place is because she wasn't taking her meds. Which is quite common. Can you afford a private investigator, or have access to law libraries? If you can't afford help I would suggest setting up a go fund me type account to hire someone. If you do, please leave the link here and I will donate. Rest in peace to your beautiful grandson.

I have schizoaffective disorder. I don’t think I’m that of a liability. I hallucinate constantly. Sounds like your son is a brat and find whatever little excuse he has for his mental illness. Good that you want him psych ward but the point is to get better

🥺 very sorry

The only real illness they got is psychopathy. And if you got no emotions you easily use that space to mimic other mental disorders. I remember this case about the hill side strangler who saw on tv while in prison a documentary about mulitple personality disorder and he tricked everybody for some time into thinking he got it. Even one well known doctor wrote a long documentation about his illness and then the murderer just said "ok sry I made it up".

I’m so sick of them being portrayed as victims.

And liberal white women fall for it

Frr mam

Cry more.

​@@aliceglado they're all still on death row where they belong bro, we're happy, you the one crying

Do men that cut their child's heart out and kill their wives deserve "compassion" or "kindness"? I mean think of the sentence you just typed out lol, are you completely disconnected from reality ?

She did a good job, but at the same time I feel like she casts the criminals like they are the true victims. I feel sorry for people that have mental illness, but it absolutely can not ever be acceptable to use it as an excuse for killing. The people who did not get to speak at trial, and the people who did not get to speak during this VICE episode, are the victims. We don't get to hear how they suffered as they were dying, and we don't get to hear their side of the story. I was in favor of capital punishment before watching this, and after watching this, my opinion has not changed, nor will it ever.

Put yourself fully in the position of a victims family, would you really be impressed? It was uncomfortable, not great reporting and the subject was made vague - not clearly about the death penalty, methods used, or prevention of mental illness. Nearly all inmates have a history of it or some trauma, victims need compassion too. The son of the woman GG killed works to raise awareness of the signs of domestic abuse.

@@petef.4361 She probably didn't see the murder scene, the bodies or the toll on the families. I'm not in favour of corporal punishment but couldn't guarantee I wouldn't feel like taking that kind of revenge if it was my child or mother.

@@H-youtube7 Your comments are valid and very fair, and I do see the points you are making. After watching some more VICE episodes with this particular reporter, she does seem to skew to one side of the story, and she certainly could do a better job at showing all sides.

Master manipulation is not a mental illness

@captainblacktooth371where’s the ACCOUNTABILITY 👎🏾

​@captainblacktooth371 nope, he's just evil and full narc, among other disorders... is what is

What are your credentials?

Did you miss the part where the psychologist literally said that you can't see the mental issue?

right, now he talking some mess

Me, too. If I remember correctly, the little girl he drowned had a disability.

Where can I find this story

Exactly

A big wide river! Such bs

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Exactly

You know you make a good point, I think we always assume this because of the old eat poop in court to avoid jail thing.” But we rarely get into the actual punishments. Now are you certain these guys never get let off ? I’m not an expert on the matter

Hello! Forensic nurse here that works with NGRI’s(in my state it’s called :Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity). So, many of the people I serve have committed anywhere from very minor felonies(petty theft, A&B on family, drug related issues, a few with more serious crimes) and honestly the majority of them it was their first offense and if they just served time in jail, they may have already been released by now. Most times, if they do end up being released, they are on “conditional release status” which can last the entirety of the rest of their lives, meaning that at anytime they can be readmitted to a state hospital for as ever long as the court seems fit.

Another thing is that after you serve your full sentence in jail, you are released without papers(aka no parole). So they can freely live where they want, move to another state or country, while many NGRI’s have to ask permission to do most things.

I got diagnosed with schizophrenia and I never killed or raped anybody I do not have much violent behavior in my history but I did destroy some property at my parents house and now I don't have my gun rights anymore, something that would normally be a standard right for any normal person if they chose to exercise that freedom. I also doubt I could ever get off medication without things becoming much worse for me so I have to deal with the many side effects caused by the medication while at the same time I have developed a high tolerance to the therapeutic, mentally stimulating, qualities of the medication. Also about 95 percent of schizophrenics smoke cigarettes and I doubt I could ever quit them. And just the people that I met in the mental health system all turned out to be toxic after they had already worked themselves into a entanglement with my life. Dead end friends. Some sane, normal, productive in society type people seem to understand me and that helps me but others will have nothing to do with me because of the stigma. And did I mention that my entire adult life has turned out nothing like I would've ever imagined after going through mental health but it is what it is so I gotta make the best of it. The disability checks aren't much and are a fixed income. Having a mental illness has its struggles in a variety of ways whether it leads a person to engage in inappropriate behavior or not. We used to just lock everyone up who had mental problems until we realized that doesn't work. And it's not like anyone ever did a scan of my brain, I am schizophrenic because of exhibiting bizarre behavior and from how I told my doctor I felt.

I’m sure you’ve been to both so you could give us your firsthand experience?

Or the hospital.

These facilities will send you away until you actually do something illegal. The system is broken

The guy who took his eyes out did go to the hospital beforehand. They still released him from the hospital

You need to wake up.. that something wrong deep down is called sin and every human being is a sinner going all the way back to Adam and Eve.. God's gave every one of us a conscience to know right from wrong. Mental illness is simply the devil doing whatever he wants to you because you aren't following God, really is simple as that. When they say they can treat mental illness, all they're doing is slapping a Band-Aid on something instead of getting at the root of the issue

...just don´t blame the perpetrator of the crime. blame the illness. and deal with the situation in the best way possible.

Well if itz a mental illness then thier is no excuse is there ? 😮🤦‍♂️

​@@sublime_death_1789tgere are schizos who dont kill

@@sublime_death_1789it’s still no damn excuse, nor does it make it any better. Those innocent babies didn’t even have the chance to grow up, it’s not our job to play god. So regardless if you have a mental illness or not, if you take a life then you should lose your life!! 😢

not always sometimes it is the very reason a crime was commited but ic what your getting at

You clealry didnt watch the video nor understand how mental illness works.

If someone said no to the first three questions, and then said yes to the fourth, I feel like they probably knew it was wrong but lied. People wouldn't conceal a body if they didn't consider it to be wrong, unless I guess they view it as legally wrong but not morally wrong.

Thank u

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I agree.

Perfectly explained! 💯

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Exactly,but most female with kids don't want to b alone

Not according to the constitution.

@WLDB well. Even if he fights for clemency. It will be denied. Because he has caused so much devastating impact on the victim and the victims children. In the end, he needs to own up to his crimes and take accountability. He is really not a victim at all. He is considered a menace to society.

How would you like it if you had a mental health issue, committed murders and now no1 has sympathy for you, think about it bro

Goodness that sounds so horrific

Yes he didn't cross me as mental at all, just manipulating

Cruel to have him wait for 20 years.

Your mother is a creep

Exactly! United stupid of America

You clearly know nobody with these severe mental issues.

After 100 years of seeing cases like this u get used to it and come up with mew advice to help that has never been used before

@@KingZealotTactics its not real thats maybe why only people in large countries are getting drugged and tricked into believing there ill and accepting the label

If he has these issues, he is too dangerous to be free

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This everyone is choosing to be dense rn

Imagine thinking you can “prevent” creeps.

We haven't really changed how we deal with it for 100 years. Some say bring back the 1950s mental health help not knowing any new advice

@@famousmortimer7933 there deluded evil is evil. meds and mental health propaganda aren't going to do nothing but get more people addicted to hard drugs.

Stfu slowie. These are arguments for elevated beings not slowies

These convos arent for slow bird brains, let the intelligent people speak.

@@Uglyalrhaydur Yea absolutely 0% chance whoever runs an alr fan account can objectively be called intelligent but rest assured everyone in your life treats you with the max respect you deserve

@@Boatyboat420 what a long way to say you’re stupid

@@Boatyboat420 very long way of saying you’re slow

Which is a shame. I’m sorry you experienced that

The same happened with me, but with depression/bipolar. My mother thought a diagnosis would be a hinderance for future prospects. It wasn't until the school forced my mom to take me to counseling after I tried hanging myself in a school bathroom(and to be honest yes, I did it for attention because I was begging for help and nobody was doing anything, so I thought if I was caught trying to kill myself it would force action)

Wow a lot of parents think this way instead of getting them the help they need

Parents are failing their children all the time. Many parents secretly hold their children in contempt. They have children for narcissistic reasons. One in 5 ppl have NPD supposedly.

Parents are willfully ignorant. They also covertly hold their children in contempt. Read “For your own good “, book by Alice Miller.

Agreed! 👏

It's about how the severity interacts with what you use to support yourself

Probably on your "TO DO" LIST

thank you,dovebar,,you understand..

You just haven't reached your breaking point yet.

Ohh lort 😅

Exactly

Just say you don't understand mental illness.

what happens if the person doesn't or isn't able to understand that the accused is able to understand that they are being sentenced to death did you watch the whole video this is talked about? there is also a lack of psychological services clearly in Texas and understanding about mental illness. It helps to step out of an eye for an eye mentality.

Imagine watching this whole video and still being too thick-skulled to understand the point.

Agreed.

Foh They’re biased a lot of them don’t even believe in the death penalty until something happens to their family and then they’re all for it🤡😆🤣😂

Because people keep excusing the killers like unaware children

​@budgonstopCANYELO Their ignorant selfish narcissistic minds can't see past their own bllsht.

So that an innocent person isn’t executed

@@holahovito11 naw, 20 years plus, naw... I've heard that in some prisons the inmates commit murder because the regime is less strict on death row and they know that they are still going to be alive for quite a long time.

​@@holahovito11yet they've done that before. Doesn't seem to be working well.

Sweaty socks 🧦 who care what a jock thinks ffs

​@@v0idk1ttyyeah we have waaayy more innocent people in society that get murdered by your precious death row pets.. You're the problem by sympathizing with them, This is your fault 😢

I have no empathy for your kind

@@aliceglado I like your spirit, but maybe we should not let these people drag us down to their level..?

nobody asked you to have empathy. the rest of the world does not care about you, or your narcissistic "look at me" bullshit.

Link?

Notice how hulking big he is, some women like that, and don't survive it.

@@jeep19 So much she liked it, she divorced him less than 90 days in. You speak like a frustrated short or weak male who’s ego was hurt by ‘some women’, nothing else. What a loser, i can assure you tho, that’s not the only reason they don’t like you

I saw that documentary also. Didn’t Greene drown the 6 year old in the bathtub after stabbing the 2 boys?

The Next day.

They gon get they money out of them first, its all about money

A couple of days

@teranceg5671 "they gone get they money." Naw, not really. Its actually more expensive to house & feed these killers & the only people they gon get they money from is us the tax payers.💰

@@ShaunKang69 no, its not. Do your research lol its more expensive to do what u mentioned.

drowning a child to death is beyond evil.

​@@chipwilliams6236hmm

did u watch the video

Yes but it is very difficult for someone to be found “not guilty by reason of mental insanity” you can be found to be not competent to stand trial which means you don’t understand the trial process so you can’t assist in your own defense. An example of this was Lori Vallow who was recently found guilty of killing her two children with her brother and her husband who she married after he also killed his wife and 2 weeks after both her kids were killed. She was first found not competent to stand trial. Once she was determined to be found competent, she was put on trial and she will be standing trial for other crimes in another state later on. Being found not guilty by reason of mental insanity means you could not determine right from wrong at the time of the crime. An example of this is, Andrea Yates who was found NG but mental inanity after drowning her 5 children in an episode of post-partum psychosis. If she is found to mentally well she can be released under supervision but from my understanding she has stated she doesn’t want to be let out, she feels she should remain hospitalized. That’s the last I heard. In 50s and 60s we had a lot more hospitals for the criminally insane but, laws that were passed basically closed these facilities down (which were not run very well at all. They had a lot of abuse and neglect which is why so many people wanted them to be shut down). The system is broken, our prison system is the new mental health facilities because we don’t have the funding to properly care for our mentally ill. I pray one day we focus on mental health services and preventing these crimes from happening in the first place. Maybe we could prevent the Gary Greens and Andre Thomas’ of the world which would mean those poor people who were the victims of these men wouldn’t be dead and the lives of their family and friends wouldn’t have been completely obliterated.

I think they do. There are people who've been found mentally incopotent. Look up Ed Gein. Its just a very high bar here to be found that. Another high profile case,Jeffery Dahmer, fought insanity but wasn't found insane. Dahmer literally ate his victims.

We used to until Regan began shutting down state funded mental hospitals. It's sad though because when I think of Broadmore I can't help but think of Saville and how I genuinely believe that part of the reason he went unpunished was because of the prejudice against the mentally ill in which people would rather pretend that they didn't exist so people like Saville could operate in the dark.

Not like the UK. They would send you to life in prison before they get you help. The U.S. doesn't care their people enough to get them help.

We used to have many similar facilities to broadmoor, but no longer. Some state hospitals now have forensic units, and there are still at best a handful of dedicated forensic hospitals, but they are extremely few. Sadly it’s rare that someone who should be found guilty by reason of insanity, actually is, so most people just end up in prison.

Mental institutions were atrocious and far more inhumane then the prisons we have today, that’s why we shut them down lol. A republican president did that too

Absolutely, privateisation of prisons is stupid. We all know it leads to cuts in staff etc. the happiest countries in the world pay almost half their wages in tax and everything is paid for, from the cradle to the grave. I live in New Zealand and we have free healthcare (except doctors visits that are free for under 5 and subsidised for others, free education up to university, free water, so it helps those who can’t put aside money for those unforeseen issues.

That would require people to have the balls to put them in there and not let them out

Our country has never had a working mental health system. What are you smoking?

We need proper institutions. Not what we had before.

Mentally ill people are not always capable of thinking from a mercy perspective. Often, they are triggered and responding to their brain telling them things that are not accurate.And sometimes, emotions trigger it. Their brains dont view situations in a correct way. And some have no emotions at all. And those are the scariest

@@dianeitani8368 well if that’s their situation, they should be discarded and not amongst us.

totally normal comment from a well-adjusted, empathetic person

@@annabrewer8054 You have no empathy for the victims. You have no empathy, just sympathy. It's not the same.

Exactly.

Exactly, and perfectly stated 👏🏾

Then turn around and claim severe mental illness to be an “excuse “

USA prisons don't want to treat inmates, not just because it would cut into their profits, but also because repeat offenders allow them to charge the taxpayers multiple times!

Absolutely agree, there is a bridge between youth hood and jail, and we have to be genuinely proactive to prevent the road there. At the very least we must get to the root of why they ended up in jail. Every story has its past, every illness has its root

Da dar de daaaaa iam dumbb derr

Never

Honestly, your on point. I thought I was becoming crazy when I was reading these comments.

Ffs he was an evil person

We understand, dear... But we do not agree with you and we have the right to not agree. 😅

Really wild and alarming. And the ones like "...I also have ADHD and depression, and i havent killed anyone" Oh child!🙄.

Schizophrenics have psychotic breaks where they lost the basic understanding of reality and hear often voice that tell them to commit murder. Outside psychosis they act normal but inside they might assume your send by the devil to kill them while medications drastically lower your symptoms and makes prevents psychotic breaks. Met one and if you would not known he has this you would never guessed it and acted perfectly normal. How do you think mentally ill people act?

Depression and anxiety are a lot different to psychosis

Yes, in that people with psychosis are dangerous.

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They don't have to be mutually exclusive. You should care about both. They're all human. They're a product of their environments. If psychiatrists say they have a severe mental illness then they need treatment for that and to have it taken into account. It isn't their fault that they have it.

@@0Linerider0forever0even if it’s not “ their fault if they have it” they’re still a danger to society and could do it to others. Not to mention their victims need justice. I think we’re opening a Pandora’s box with this false compassion. It started with closing down insane asylum’s because “they were inhumane” leaving no help for severely mentally ill people until it’s too late and now excusing the worst of crimes. What next?

@@0Linerider0forever0I bet if it were your kids you’d have a different take. This entire video seems to want to persuade people that murderers are victims because of mental illness. As of the victims who survived, should understand that and be ok with it.

If our society and our "leaders", were concerned about people with mental health issues (that they did not choose to have), and made sure they had effective treatment and guidance, there wouldn't be so many victims. It's appropriate to wonder how the survivors are doing, because they are also victims of the same broken system, and often a lack of appropriate long term mental healthcare for the survivors either. Please, be concerned and compassionate about the mental health of your fellow human beings, so this never happens again. Peace be with you!

consider that criminals are victims of their mental health. nobody chooses to be ill.

The average time between sentencing and execution has increased by two-thirds in the past 20 years - from 11.4 years in 2000 to 18.9 years in 2020, according to the most recent available data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. 20 years locked in a cell waiting to be killed by your own guards is not really easy, nor even a 'way out'.

They will just complain about life in prison after the death penalty is abolished. Then anything longer than 20 years will be cruel.

True

@@forstcroh6233 True. And the reason is the death penalty is dying.

True and most convicted people are used by political figures and government's

I'm the daughter of a murder victim. My brother and mom have also died. I'm against the death penalty. For one, the justice system has gotten it wrong time and time again. Innocent people have been executed and sit on death row or in prison as we speak. Until it's a perfect system 100% of the time, the death penalty shouldn't even be a discussion. It needs to be perfect, they need to never get it wrong. Even then, I don't really care for it. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. We're telling them "You're worse than us, you murder people." And then "teaching them a lesson" by doing the same thing. Many killers look forward to the death penalty because death row inmates often get their own cells, TVs, privileges, etc. and they stay for decades. I don't want my dad's killers to die, I'd never wish their family to go through what they put me through. It's a waste.

How does being anti death penalty = no empathy for the victims? This is just my opinion, but I think they're the most empathetic people around.

Thank you, it's not about creating excuses for actions. It's about acknowledging long misunderstood and ignored realities in our society

Gary Green killed his wife and children after he learned she wanted a divorce. These criminals should be looking for help with their mental illnesses before they decided to brutally murder children. If someone killed your children like that something tells me you wouldn’t care about their mental illness.

The worst thing is that these people dont understand that, by denying the reality of mental illness, thay are also denying solutions that can prevent future crimes. Its children blood on their hands as they cry "oh the poor children, think of the children".

I think they have a history of mental ILLNESS not mental health 😂

Yess!

A gift.