The Decline of GoPro...What Happened

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The once-promising action camera company has lost most of its value. This video attempts to explain the reasons behind GoPro's dramatic rise and fall.
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@Molly-ey6lq 2 күн бұрын

I've heard enough comments from totally unrelated KZfaqrs, from firearms channels, to bushcraft channels, to guys who catch snakes for a living, casually mentioning they lost some footage cause their GoPro overheated to know one of the big reasons without knowing anything else about GoPro.

@michaelmccarthy4615 2 күн бұрын

They aren't very easy to use. I got frustrated and just put them away.

@CatskillProduction 2 күн бұрын

Yoink

@LatitudeSky 2 күн бұрын

100% you get ONE shot to get the shot and these stupid cameras overheat and die constantly. Absolute trash.

@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 2 күн бұрын

Loss of footage and overheating is also the biggest issues I heard about them.

@Nevir202 2 күн бұрын

Wonder what on earth they were doing? I recorded a lot in Rio de Janeiro, in the middle of summer with no issue.

@shipdit8421 2 күн бұрын

Felt like everyone that wanted to own them bought them, then... turns out most people have little use for one, let alone buy another in the future. Infinite growth was an even harder sell here than everywhere else.

@IronMan-ds5bi 2 күн бұрын

Also seems like camera quality has plateaued. The past few models has been pretty similar as far as features and camera resolution go

@float32 2 күн бұрын

And, they overheat like crazy. They’re not meant for use as a regular video camera. They need airflow and short recording times. Cheap competitors came out with cameras that can record for longer than 10 minutes, all while GoPro gaslit us about it.

@austinfarley4971 2 күн бұрын

Can confirm. I bought one and had little use for it.

@michaelmccarthy4615 2 күн бұрын

I have 2. Never found an interesting use for them. They have problems that make them difficult to use. They just sit now

@NotKimiRaikkonen 2 күн бұрын

Exactly. They're like anything, you buy one when they first come out and other companies jump in to make a better one, so even if you need another, there are DJI and Sony and Samsungs that make better ones.

@jefffrye1806 2 күн бұрын

The subscription/cloud model really kneecapped them as well. Lots of companies are guilty of trying to capture additional consumer dollars by moving features behind a paywall. This generation of MBA types are on a mission to screw over consumers without any thought toward those consumers ignoring them with future purchases.

@honor9lite1337 15 сағат бұрын

😊😊

@kevint5945 11 сағат бұрын

@@honor9lite1337the unlimited cloud subscription is what keeps me with GoPro, I can record everything I want and just have it upload and stored for free at night when I sleep. Other wise I would have switched to DJI by now.

@minch5537 9 сағат бұрын

Yeah, because it’s more profitable lol. This is capitalism in action

@newnotification30 3 сағат бұрын

I read a lot of the comments and I think you summed it up best.

@angelainamarie9656 3 сағат бұрын

@@minch5537so even though the product that they sold is just complete crap, actually was of limited to no value economically, and otherwise. But as long as it made money. Does anyone else see what's wrong with running a society like this?

@2BXD 2 күн бұрын

You know they fell off when 360 cameras have a smaller form factor with a bigger battery life.

@realbosstakea Күн бұрын

sony f3000 action camera is what go pro wish it couldve been

@combatwombat594 2 күн бұрын

Using a GoPro is also an excruciating experience compared to a regular camera. Yeah they're super durable and all that, but trying to pull files off of the thing is just stupid. Their cloud system sucks, a lot of the hardware is proprietary. There's a lot of reasons GoPro is going down the drain. Not to mention the fact that they are WAY too expensive at this point. You can get little cameras that do all the same stuff, without all the bullshit, for cheaper. So people buy those

@Molly-ey6lq 2 күн бұрын

Another example of a company thinking they can extract more money from a cornered market only to find they've actually pushed themselves out of said market. You can only get away with the whole overpriced proprietary cables, batteries, software, mounts, accessories, etc racket for so long until your whole customer base gives up on you en masse.

@kingedwin 2 күн бұрын

DJI went from being a cheap option if you wanted a spare camera to go with your GoPro equipment to being a better choice in most cases just based on UI. They might not have quite the image quality, but they're a lot easier to use.

@mankind8088 2 күн бұрын

Yep a $50 action📷 that has a 64gb card recording at 720 that only records with no🐂💩or software required..........is 10x easier to use than any $299 progo

@Matanumi 2 күн бұрын

Yeah DJI just fucking dominated gopro's Market. Funny because they hold a near Monopoly in consumer drone market so much so that the US is looking to ban them out right through lobbying by skydio reps

@GalaxyFluke 2 күн бұрын

@@Molly-ey6lqunless your apple

@Markimark151 2 күн бұрын

I used to work for GoPro over a decade ago at their HQ as an intern, the company grew way too fast and Nick Woodman has been a narcissist with posting videos in his press releases to employees! He’s mostly responsible for GoPro’s decline, since he lacked focus in new products that would make them relevant in the smartphone era.

@mankind8088 2 күн бұрын

Should have been a GoPro📱in a waterproof case with video editing apps as bloat ware, 5 gigs of free ☁️ storage..........even 10 years ago for $499.99 unlocked with dual SIM slots, 64 gigs on board expandable to 512gb, I think it would have sold

@whoishim2998 2 күн бұрын

@@mankind8088hmmm I think they should’ve tried to make action cameras for the film industry/ and going deeper in the camera/ film Industry in general. Phones would’ve only lasted so long before IPhone etc out did them

@slickfox33 2 күн бұрын

@@mankind8088tough to say if people would buy that phone in the masses should of made phone covers and separate cloud services link to phone that would of made a big impact.

@Markimark151 2 күн бұрын

@@mankind8088 they were already too late to compete in smartphones, but they should’ve made camera accessories for smartphones like lens adapters. There was too much competition in smartphones at that point.

@Markimark151 2 күн бұрын

⁠@@vincentkingsdale8334mostly Canon, Sony, Nikon, and lots of Chinese companies that make action video cameras.

@AK-47ISTHEWAY 2 күн бұрын

I have owned one GoPro and sold it after a few months because the video kept freezing. Apparently that's still a very common problem because I know quite a few people that use them and they have the same issues. So it wasn't like I bought a bad one. They have poor quality control.

@RustyShackleford-kd9it 2 күн бұрын

My GoPro kept on overheating and I wasn’t overusing it in any way. Sometimes it would start overheating seconds after turning it on.

@b.griffin317 2 күн бұрын

Get a DJI Osmo Action. Solves all the problems with GoPros and is smaller, more compact, cheaper and water proof down to a lower depth.

@davesilver5493 Күн бұрын

That’s the sign of a bad SD card.

@gigihanmandarin 21 сағат бұрын

It is a common issue. Not a lemon unit but across the whole range in general. It has only gotten better with the most recent releases which is more than a decade since the first model.

@davesilver5493 21 сағат бұрын

@@gigihanmandarin I have a 7 and 11 and neither lock up ever although they can overheat after a period of time.

@marsspacex6065 2 күн бұрын

They essentially stagnated and didn’t diversify their products categories after a whole decade. Not a good strategy.

@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting 2 күн бұрын

Well, they TRIED to diversify, but sadly failed in spectacular manner (drones, a media division, etc)

@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 2 күн бұрын

@@BayAreaMotorcycleCommutingit’s unfortunate there drones sucked

@manoz6194 Күн бұрын

Should have just focused on making the best AND reliable camera

@andymead7066 2 күн бұрын

One of the big missteps was around 2016/17. I was a dealer - and a professional sports photographer on the side. My product rep gave me a full kit. I think it might've been a Hero 4 or 6. The problem was that GoPro required you to create a gopro account to access all the controls of the camera. Sorry, I'm not logging in to allow GoPro to track any of my usage. For many users that just want to configure a camera, use all of its features, then access the created content, that was a ridiculous overreach. I've used 25 years of professional and pro-sumer Canon DSLRs and mirrorless camers, and I've never had to log in to configure anything. I never created that GoPro account. I did continue to trot out an older GoPro I had acquired a few years prior, but at some point - as you point out - smart phones basically cannibalized much of the everyday use cases.

@Kuda084 2 күн бұрын

Their tech and support was awful for me. I bought one before a vacation in 2018. I am pretty tech savvy tested it, went on my vacation and the camera had failed on me. I was able to rescue 4 thumbnails. After researching, their "recommend card" had known compatibility issues, but this wasn't mentioned on their site only at 3rd party forums. Their support was less than stellar and my GoPro, with little less than an hour of use time, was the most expensive item I've thrown away. Such a waste. But like you said, bloat and inefficiency is obvious on this one.

@TBH_Inc 2 күн бұрын

I have plenty of my own issues with GoPro, but I will say, their support was pretty good for me. Basically, the battery cover can come off if it isn’t closed, and due to my own fault, I ended up losing it. They only sold replacement covers for newer models, but I contacted support asking if I could still buy one, and they just sent me a new one for free since I had had the GoPro less than a year. I’m not sure how many companies do this since I usually only contact them if it was their fault something broke, but I really appreciate it.

@everythingpony 2 күн бұрын

You threw it away? Are you serious? No wonder we have so much waste

@LiewLmao Күн бұрын

⁠irony in blaming the customer and not the company for making a non functioning product

@mcdudely 2 күн бұрын

Never expected to see a GoPro episode.

@alexsynthesis 2 күн бұрын

Same, I always thought they were doing good but maybe I was wrong? 🤔

@crazywarp36 2 күн бұрын

@@alexsynthesis They are doing good.

@bobroberts2371 2 күн бұрын

Go Pro, endorsed by Trevor Jacob . . . . .. ( Along with Ridge Wallets )

@nitehawk86 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36 Uhh no they arent. Most people have moved on to DJI or Insta360 cams. The full coverage and actual smart system is much easier to use. I have an Olympus/OM Tough camera, which has a standard point and shoot camera style, while still being able to go 15 meters underwater; vs Hero 9 that has no external controls aside from a play button and can only go 10 meters down.

@bruceskousen5451 12 сағат бұрын

@@crazywarp36😂🤣 If they were doing good, this video wouldn’t have come out. GoPro is within two years of bankruptcy in my opinion.

@highping1786 2 күн бұрын

I thought the decline was from lower sales caused by quality problems.

@nitehawk86 2 күн бұрын

Yeah, they were incredibly cheap cameras sourced from a no-name factory in China, stuck in waterproof housings. Lots of other companies came out with similar things and did it better/cheaper.

@nogosari3596 2 күн бұрын

@@nitehawk865:55 not produced by foxconn? they owned 8.88% of gopro.

@MikeStavola 2 күн бұрын

I think you might have missed the part where a number of the later models had a bunch of issues, from overheating, to leaking, to corrupting media, and weird issues where they stop recording for seemingly no reason and so on.

@realbangbang 2 күн бұрын

Yup

@JoeOvercoat 20 сағат бұрын

Yah. It’s true that the GoPro business model was broken, but the actual product was more work than it was worth because of tech issues. If they made a superior product, it wouldn’t matter how wacky the CEO is. This video seems like a shallow assessment in that it’s only looking at the business model, which fits in with the channel. To be fair, that fits with capitalism in general, where we are expected to enjoy the product that they provide and to pay for it. The product is secondary. The profit is *everything*.

@alexschneider8494 8 сағат бұрын

I mean they’re also expensive. I looked at them not long ago and couldn’t believe how much they cost. Not interested

@epsiloneuropa1351 2 күн бұрын

Uploaded 16min before my 30min break. Company Man is a life saver

@maxonmendel5757 2 күн бұрын

have a good rest of your work day. happy 4th

@ElleBrOw 2 күн бұрын

If you have a 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍 job you’re off Friday too

@maxonmendel5757 2 күн бұрын

@@ElleBrOw yeah, and maybe he doesn't. f off with that classist nonsense. at your //real// job, does your boss feel you up too? all jobs are real jobs you diphead.

@theinfernalcraftsman 2 күн бұрын

I am the unfortunate owner of a Gopro and I have said that if a suitable replacement shows up at the door I'd destroy my gopro in any way the sender wants. It's buggy it overheats the external microphone adapters are buggy and often never work it's buggy and over heats and it crashes allot and did I mention it's buggy and overheats. The newer players on the market have focused on reliability over spending on marketing. The main reason for Gopro declining is very simple they are not reliable.

@b.griffin317 2 күн бұрын

DJI Osmo Action doesn't have all the problems of a GoPro and many advantages over it.

@Devilishlybenevolent 2 күн бұрын

Lol just glancing at the comments section and I see a lot of ex gopro users talk about DJI OSMO. I guess that's your best bet lol

@SargonDragon 2 күн бұрын

For the intended use of getting video of a sport, you really need the video camera to be dead reliable. You don't get to do another take. And GoPro's just aren't reliable. I had too many races where at the end I checked the GoPro and nope. I just lost all the footage of my race because the dumb thing randomly stopped working again. You. Had. One. Job. Mr. Camera.

@bigrod359 Күн бұрын

dji and insta have been doing better for years now

@justa3valve 22 сағат бұрын

I destroyed mine with a sledgehammer

@TBH_Inc 2 күн бұрын

They did eventually respond to try to work with phones, but in an awful way. They killed off their desktop app, so if you want to pull off files in a more polished way than windows explorer, or if you want to edit the videos, you have to do it ON YOUR PHONE. Yes, the main way to backup and edit videos from a device that is meant to take tens or hundreds of gigabytes of videos, is the device that usually only has a few hundred gigabytes, and also just isn’t the best device for editing. Not to mention many of the editing features are paywalled. Before posting this, I just googled it, and it sounds like they brought back the app to macOS and will do windows later this year, but the fact they killed their computer app for years is a massive blunder in my eyes.

@TBH_Inc 2 күн бұрын

Oh and gopros have constantly struggled from batteries not lasting as long as you need them (and while they are swappable, replacements are expensive) and they overheat easily if it is somewhat hot out (like 80-90°f) and recording video. Fixing those two things would make them much more worth it to me, but they spend their time making other features instead.

@mirzaboric1436 Күн бұрын

Sure fire way to alienate more tech savvy users which I imagine if you know extreme sports or get a go pro to record something cool you’re doing you’re probably at least some what tech savvy.

@RipRoaringGarage 2 күн бұрын

Heres the BIG problem with GoPro. Before, I will say this. I have a newer Hero9Black and a Hero3. Ive had the 3 for over 10 years now and it was used as a dash cam. It would run no matter the heat, especially inside the car on a hot summer day. The new one will shut down in 60 degree weather after about 10 minutes. Im told, I should record 4k. Then dont advertise it as a 4k camera capable of recording hours of footage. It got so bad, that I gave up on using it and now record in my office using a Insta360 bcause it doesn't overheat. I am so furious with GoPro, because they just forgot about battery overheating issues. Everything else, would have been fine, so long as it didnt ge the three beeps of death, as you recorded someting you couldnt catch anymore.

@ochiamu Күн бұрын

I also use a Hero 3 silver as a dash cam. I only have overheating issues if Ieave it in the sun all day and then go to use it. I can't blame it for that. But I don't see much reason to upgrade, much less every single year. I miy but another 3 or 4 but I don't see a reason to buy a newer one.

@davidmcleod5133 Күн бұрын

Thanks for your post. The only GoPro I’ve owned and used was also a Hero 3, and I’ve been baffled as to why everyone keeps talking about problems. Didn’t realize I owned the one semi-reliable model. 😅

@RipRoaringGarage Күн бұрын

@@davidmcleod5133 I still have it, and it still works. I did finally have to get a battery for it, but one in 10 years now! One issue it gets, is the button to turn it off or on wont work. The screen will be on, but wont respond. But its easy to take the battery out and force reboot it and its fine, and doesnt affect the recorded stuff. Image isnt the bst (its a bit low contrast, and night recordings are meh) but for a dashcam it shows license plates. So yeah, I thought that would be the same experience with the newer ones. I still use the new one too, but not as much. My last episode I had to stop midway and throw the camera in the freezer for about 10 minutes. It melted my peas LOL. I can rant forever on this. I got all the extensions, the external case so I can plug a different mic (the Rode wireless one), and for 400, I expected better. Batteries for it dont last, and they do that bloating thing where they wont go in or out of the camera itself. Sorry, really writing a novel here. But hold onto the 3. Those truly were the good ones at their peak!

@TheMysteryDriver 3 сағат бұрын

@@davidmcleod5133ya my hero2 worked great

@isaiahlouisb2 2 күн бұрын

DJI and Insta360 offer better products for better prices, not to mention your phone having a great water/dust rating and being able to handle some extreme conditions, it allows people to use their phone and not an action camera. Let's not forget the million cheap GoPro knock offs that work pretty well with decent quality too.

@jeanilee 5 сағат бұрын

Yes Dji is great from my experience

@Choralone422 2 күн бұрын

Not at all surprised by this. Once smartphones became the norm it was pretty rare to hear much about GoPro. Usually if I heard about GoPro it was from someone who had purchased one for a specific use case, and even then it was not uncommon to hear of the device not working properly or outright failing. I personally have never owned one and for probably the last 10-15 years have had little to no interest in owning one.

@EfelerGibi 2 күн бұрын

Also dont forget the efect of insta360. Their recent cameras really eat into the same market with much beter cameras for most people with more features. Especially their tiny camera is used a lot where a gopro would have been traditionally used.

@scoot5642 2 күн бұрын

i think it’s the 360 camera that gave insta 360 its success. even with the gopro name, 9/10 times people would rather get the insta360. if gopro tried harder, they wouldn’t have to compete against the likes of insta360 (or dji)

@reahreic7698 2 күн бұрын

@@scoot5642 Go pro effectively abandoned the fusion 360 camera, over priced the omni and also killed the Kolor AutoPano software and the offline Go Pro VR player in favor of pushing cloud bs.

@crazywarp36 2 күн бұрын

@@scoot5642 Insta360 is worse than gopro though

@scoot5642 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36 well i did say 9/10

@michaelbuddy 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36 In terms of what? Because their products are positioned really well compared to gopro. People who want action cams want something light weight and durable and to not be overwhelmed with the tech and they want it to work in the more extreme elements. They want it easy to use given the circumstances of action. GoPro has some issues in UI, although the other companies have been able to innovate only because of gopros early work, the UI is slightly improved on DJI and insta for certain things. Both insta360 and DJI looked at what GoPro wasn't doing and innovated on some of those things, and frankly they nailed it with hardware magnetic connections and insta with 360 footage and now their smaller camea that pops out of the player and also has wireless video.

@badGamr 2 күн бұрын

Bought a Hero 4. It was defective out of the box. If you had Wi-Fi turned on the audio would be a course buzzing sound. I returned it for a replacement and the replacement did the same thing. I called the company and they basically said they know about the issue but had no intention of fixing it and if I did not like it, return the camera. So I did. Never done business with them since. I did buy a DJI OSMO 1st gen. Still use it all the time. Great product.

@Fisheee123 2 күн бұрын

I owned a gopro when I was younger, and then I was thinking about upgrading a couple years ago. But then I saw cheap ones on amazon for like $80, 4k 30fps, waterproof. Basically gopros, but cheaper. Decided to take a chance and buy one, since I knew I could return it if it wasn't good. I still have, and its honestly better than a gopro.

@skully_8500 2 күн бұрын

drop a link homie

@TheMysteryDriver 3 сағат бұрын

@@skully_8500they're all over and cheaper now

@Luftwaffe_JG52 2 күн бұрын

Wow, I remember when they were getting popular. I never used one but that's odd to hear they are struggling.

@DieselCreek 2 күн бұрын

Started my channel with GoPros and they seemed to get better and somehow worse with every new iteration, after suffering so many issues resulting in lost or compromised footage I switched to DJI and have never looked back. I wish I could support them but when you need to count on them to make a living you can’t gable with them actually working

@mikeb8893 Күн бұрын

Your channel rocks Matt! You could record with an 80s VHS camcorder and still be the best on KZfaq

@DieselCreek 21 сағат бұрын

@@mikeb8893 😂 thanks!!

@mikefollett 2 күн бұрын

I'm a CI Engineer and I use GoPro's to record time lapses of building an area, product, etc, and put them inside machines to analyze machine movement for point of cause to identify issues using higher frame rates to breakdown movements. They definitely have a broad use-case list, but the problem is this idea of "infinite growth" that wall street has. GoPro filled a niche that didn't exist at the time, and now there are $40 copies that get the job done. Still the best for the size, but expensive and plenty of alternatives that perform good enough at lower budgets. They had their time, but now its a saturated market (and the drone was really their last shot at a comeback).

@AlejanderLong 2 күн бұрын

oh，i remember that shit drone.

@BleedForTheWorld Күн бұрын

When has capitalism not been mutually exclusive with infinite growth?

@TheMysteryDriver 3 сағат бұрын

@@BleedForTheWorldplenty of people run businesses with consistent profits and have no intention of increasing their businesses size.

@BleedForTheWorld 2 сағат бұрын

@@TheMysteryDriver plenty of people do the opposite because they're greedy as hell and that's not illegal. In fact, it's rewarded.

@R4ks0 2 күн бұрын

I thought you were going to mention the design flaws introduced on the hero 6 or 7 that made them add this statement to their warranty "this product is not warranted against water housing leakage or any resulting damage". Almost everyone I know that bought a GoPro in the past 6 years has run into this issue, thankfully I have not, but I noticed how this product became something that everyone I know had to something everyone I know warns about.

@stuntmonkey00 2 күн бұрын

That's actually a standard on a most waterproof cameras, not just action cameras. Which is a shame, because average joe buys these things on the fact that they can be advertised to go underwater but then get burned when it fails on them during vacation, and know they wonder why they can't get warranty support.

@dennisc6716 2 күн бұрын

A video about GoPro without mentioning all of the technical problems with their cameras just seems incomplete.

@kevinwebb82 2 күн бұрын

I never had one but I've watched a few KZfaqrs complain about it, especially it over heating. It's a shame a company that's been around this long and they never got their shit together.

@histijoe183 2 күн бұрын

There are much better options now, I use a DJI osmos 4 and it doesn’t have the overheating issues that GoPros have

@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting 2 күн бұрын

DJI makes incredible cameras, but to be fair, the "not overheating" is partially because the Action4 only shoots less than half the resolution of a Hero11 / Hero12

@b.griffin317 2 күн бұрын

@@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting What is the max resolution of a Hero 11/12?

@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting 2 күн бұрын

@@b.griffin317 5312 x 4648 - an 8:7 aspect ratio with 24,690,176 pixels. Osmo Action 4 is 3840 x 2880, a 4:3 aspect ratio with only 11,059,200 pixels. Obviously sheer pixel count isn't everything, but that's a pretty significant difference

@jorgesalazar818 16 сағат бұрын

Why would you buy from a chinese company? They're probably sending all your data back to China.

@b.griffin317 2 күн бұрын

I have one of GoPro's main competitors: DJI Osmo Action 3. Heard some bad review on GoPros (newer models have overheat problems) and went with the Osmo instead. Couldn't have made a better decision.

@awesomeblossom2417 2 күн бұрын

I think overall competition should be #3. Yes you have phones, but they sat on their laurels and let other prominent cameras overtake them. I personally like insta360 cameras.

@runrafarunthebestintheworld 2 күн бұрын

I remember when GoPro was big in 2014 and 2015 I think it was the official sponsor of the X Games at one point an other competitions. Now there are other companies that make visor cams now. Wouldn't surprise me if GoPro eventaully folds.

@PeterCiesla 2 күн бұрын

GoPro eats video files.

@nevets4298 2 күн бұрын

You can spend a fraction of the price on something that works just as well

@elicaul6506 2 күн бұрын

I was very enthusiastic about GoPro, and was one of the first to use them on RC planes. They made us wait almost two years for the promised firmware fix so you could invert the image in the camera, and the early units were a bit dodgy. I had three cameras, I was basically a shill for GP on the RC Forums, and then one of the cameras croaked, some sort of flash death. 1.5 weeks out of warranty, and GP Support would not even entertain the idea of selling me a replacement at a discount. Their support staff were dour, entitled, and arrogant. When the second camera broke, I was finished with these guys. It's a shame Contour went out of business, it was a better product. I hear the subscription model GP rolled out a few years ago has flopped, and I will be very pleased when they finally circle the drain. They converted me from Fan Boy Promoter to detractor pretty quick, and I am not alone in that. Good Riddance GoPro!

@AlexGelinas42069 2 күн бұрын

As a mountain biker, I've had and used a few gopros over the years. They were great when they worked, and a nightmare otherwise. Crashes, corruption of files, crappy services, and overheating are big problems; but I think the thing which really killed them was that other companies came in and did it better. DJI and Insta360 both offer better products for cheaper, and with significant innovations over the latest gopros (the magnetic mount from DJI is a game-changer, for example) I think gopro still has a chance to get back in the game; but they need to put out something better than their competition, and with more reliable hardware.

@netposerx 2 күн бұрын

GoPro now has competition from DJI, Insta360 and smartphones. GoPro is not Kleenex, most people just call them 'action cams" or "action cameras". I have 6 different Hero cams and an Insta360 X3. I do like the 360 camera and GoPro needs an update to their Max 360 camera since it was released almost 5 years ago.

@crazywarp36 2 күн бұрын

A gopro and anything similar is just a waste of money. Smartphone cameras are super good now,

@netposerx 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36I'm not using a smartphone mountain biking, surfing or paddleboarding.

@crazywarp36 2 күн бұрын

@@netposerx you can get waterproof cases that will protect your phone and make it waterproof, and you can get hand things to hold it

@parkerwilkins5495 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36if video quality was the only thing people were considering, nobody would have ever bought a GoPro in the first place

@martinqizeaq 2 күн бұрын

@@crazywarp36i think you miss the point of what this camera is used for.

@zeph_os 2 күн бұрын

I bought a used GoPro Hero 7 Black off someone and it functioned exactly as I wanted it to, until I tried doing some skateboard rides with it. Even with 20-25 mph wind, it kept wanting to overheat on me. I thought it was a byproduct of the fact I bought it used, but it turns out, GoPros overheating are a major problem with it. The compact format and the resolution is great, but it seems to be generating a lot of waste heat and cannot dissipate it efficiently enough. Not to mention the sheer amount of proprietary nonsense means that whenever this camera decides to kick the bucket, I'm more than likely gonna go with another company

@digginggopher 11 сағат бұрын

Funny I heard a KZfaqr saying the 7 was the best one, I have the 12 and havnt had a problem yet, I'm happy so far, just not with the price, I had to finance it as I don't have $500, so I'm paying like $50 a month for 10 months or something, I am also disappointed with the battery life, I keep the battery cover off when I'm not in the rain and keep it plugged into my XTAR pbs2l with 2 5000mAh 21700 batteries, that gives me an extra hour or 2

@aminzqrti7672 2 күн бұрын

Another problem with the concept of gopro is that most of the users don’t have the need to upgrade their cameras. I’m happy with my hero9. The new cameras don’t bring enough new features to convince me to buy a new one. Not like the case of the smartphones.

@ProfSimonHolland 3 сағат бұрын

as a tv professional. gopro were the ideal camera for risky or weird mounting footage....ext cars, airplane wings etc. BUT. tv companies know that gopro are not professional grade kit. prone to locking up, loosing files and just not working. these issues with software, have never been totally solved. great idea but flawed.

@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225 2 күн бұрын

They should make dashcams. Gopros are cheaper and with better quality that most dashcams. A little adjustments and they could monopolize the market of dashcams

@davidmcleod5133 Күн бұрын

If I could get something the size of a GoPro Session, with swappable batteries or even just the ability to record while charging, I would have two on my motorcycle all the time.

@applejacks971 10 сағат бұрын

GoPro's are cheaper than dashcams? Really? Not even close. I bought my Viofo A119 dashcams for $69 new...GoPro's are NOT $69. What planet you living on?

@esteemedenergy 3 сағат бұрын

Their junk overheats, they cannot make a Dashcam.

@mattcolver1 2 күн бұрын

I like to video water sports like rafting and snorkeling. GoPro's were always too expensive. I found the Olympus TG brand of camera's work fine. Sometimes you do get some clicking noise from them on video, but for the price they are very rugged, waterproof, and easy to use. Uploading files is easy.

@AZREDFERN 6 сағат бұрын

The Hero4 is definitely where it started going downhill. They cut every corner possible. It’s the last one I bought, because it was constantly crashing, missing sound at random, overheating, and the face plate crumbled the first time I put it in the case. That’s around the time where they started diluting their own market. They didn’t follow the Steve Jobs 4 square model, and just made whatever sounded neat.

@AaronOfMpls Күн бұрын

I know someone who's used a GoPro to shoot videos on his dirtbike. I suspect it's an older one, less prone to overheating and easier to dump video from. Myself, I've had no need for one; my phone or my regular digital camera have been enough. I was not very aware of the issues newer GoPros have had, until I started reading comments here. Nor do I remember their issues in trying to branch out. But yah, I suspected competition in a limited market was part of their problem. Good video as ever!

@91_C4_FL 2 күн бұрын

GoPro really missed out not making a competitive drone. And even then, I feel like the market has stagnated. What they should’ve done is gotten into surveillance (home and commercial) and police body cams.

@michaelstein7510 2 күн бұрын

Yeah, it seems like they really squandered their brief moment of dominating their market, and couldn’t pivot before the competition improved and surpassed them. It’s easy to be critical in hindsight, of course.

@CashisKingtrucking 2 күн бұрын

If they could make a camera that didn't overheat they would do a lot better

@AmusementLabs 2 күн бұрын

I was gifted a hero 3 for Christmas and was genuinely happy...for like 3 months until it started overheating, corrupting files, put a pink tint on footage, and generally looked and soundedlike garbage. It's been completely dead for coming on a decade now and after all that i have no interest in getting another.

@SolitaryWolf 2 күн бұрын

The iPhone is so popular that it contains most of the electronics that were in the old Radio Shack catalogs. Thats a high bar. I love my GoPro, but really don't use it much for the reasons you pointed out.

@etwproductions 2 күн бұрын

Bought GoPro 12 to replace my dslr to shoot my short films. The quality is really superior for the price point. The camera stabilization is next level. Has add ons for lights, mics and a lens hood. Shot 2 projects and so far and very pleased with the footage. Light weight too.

@michaelbuddy 2 күн бұрын

gopros are really great and have been hitting the limits of what's pssible across all cameras. I want them to stay relevent and compete on a few areas against DJI and insta. GoPro certainly can and people do prefer GoPro for some things. Problem of a lot of it has been people's demand for more and more video processing, resolution and also demanding lighter weight, and better temp mgmt. All these things are very hard problems and Sony also struggles with them. But DJI has also competed with gopro just on having simple magnetic hook connections, solving what 3rd parties were doing for GoPro and in some cases not even as good. Quick swaps of locations is very important as these cameras can be used for lifestyle recording. A good UI and swappable locations is important there. from chest to selfie stick to tripod to pack strap to dock etc.

@jamessloanofficial 5 сағат бұрын

The downside of the 12 is that they removed the GPS module in a cheap effort to hide the overheating issue. It may be ok for static videos, but not having GPS killed their usefulness for sports use, especially motorsports.

@ScareFestTTV 2 күн бұрын

Damn. I wondered if the fad would last.

@cnelson3225 2 күн бұрын

I think you nailed it in the first couple minutes. They went public.

@noslowerdna Күн бұрын

I have a GoPro HD Hero2 that I bought in February 2012 for $280. For more than a decade I used this camera extensively for personal "video notebook" purposes, to document my juggling pattern research ideas for future reference and cataloging, with some curated highlights posted on KZfaq, Facebook, or Instagram. This GoPro still works great and is sitting here on my desk ready for action, although I haven't really used it much in about a year, preferring my phone instead most of the time now. When I purchased it, it was definitely the most convenient way to accomplish what I needed to do - super quick and easy to capture a casual clip. I have probably recorded at least 25,000 videos with it over the years. The durability has been outstanding with the only longevity issue being that I had to replace the original battery 5 years ago since it was failing to hold a charge. Occasionally I thought about upgrading to a newer model, but never had any real motivation to do that. So based on my experience I think it makes a lot of sense that this company has been recently struggling to remain a viable business.

@MrPrimeFusionX 2 күн бұрын

Man Disney taking over!

@Sig_P229 2 күн бұрын

Anything Disney touches turns to dust

@MrPrimeFusionX 2 күн бұрын

@@Sig_P229 right

@BraydenBunch58 2 күн бұрын

@@MrPrimeFusionXWhat does Disney have to do with this?

@MrPrimeFusionX 2 күн бұрын

@@BraydenBunch58 they own go-pro

@BraydenBunch58 2 күн бұрын

@@MrPrimeFusionX Didn’t know that🤔

@mitchellpeterson7943 18 сағат бұрын

It seems every visionary, self-made, techbro always starts off with a loan of a few million dollars from their parents.

@clintlehar952 20 сағат бұрын

I have always use my GoPro for skiing, hiking, fishing. Now my kids are old enough, I tie it to dugouts and live stream our baseball games for families outside of the area to watch. Thanks to their feedback, we have fine tuned it to the point we make pretty good quality videos shared around the world for free. We get grandparents, relatives, even deployed soldiers who can watch these kiddos play ball!

@GriffinCologne 2 күн бұрын

I bought one to livestream a wedding during Covid lockdowns. It overheated 15 minutes into the (indoor, air-conditioned) ceremony, the families attempting to watch their loved ones ceremony were furious, and I’ve never touched a GoPro again.

@vettle645 2 күн бұрын

Do k1 speed next

@UncleJoeLITE 2 күн бұрын

Always look forward to your work from Canberra AU. Yep, so many alternatives now - I have a Goo-Pro lol.

@LegenDove 2 күн бұрын

Why are we up so late/early 😂

@carlupthegrove262 14 сағат бұрын

Good analysis.... also competition, as you touched on DJI for example .

@Loos3scr3ws 2 күн бұрын

This episode was interesting! Can’t wait to see what other companies you do next !

@davidfrischknecht8261 2 күн бұрын

What I find annoying about GoPro footage is the barrel distortion.

@bradygoldblatt560 2 күн бұрын

I touched one once, and was so confused. As a 20 year old who’s grown up with almost every new age technology, there’s no reason I shouldn’t be able to work a basic camera meant for athletes. Especially when I’m a videographer! It genuinely felt like they were tryna make me not use it. They’d be doing very well if they actually made the product intuitively rather than focus simply on durability and accessories.

@FlanylShirtman 2 күн бұрын

He called their market narrow. I agree, and a niche section of an already narrow market. I do have one, a Christmas present from my parents many years ago. I stopped using it after something fouled up and it recorded an entire vacation upside down. I tried using editing software to flip it over, but it just never looked right. That could have been the POS laptop I was using at the time. Still, time moved on, and screen resolutions increased. My phone was able to record larger files, had more memory, and at a higher resolution. The GoPro just sits in a drawer now because I can't even use this particular model as a webcam. In a year, this camera went from "Oh, cool." to "Why do I still have this?" I'm not going to get another one because my phone does everything it can do and more.

@Alyssajprez 2 күн бұрын

I’m a full time videographer and though I love the use of my GoPro, I do only use it for limited stuff. It’s the perfect answer for underwater shots, action shots, unique perspectives where I can just hide it in a corner, but 90% of the time my work doesn’t need it. When I’m out adventuring in some way, I take it every time! It’s small, it’s convenient, it’s great. But outside of any type of adventure stuff I do, I typically don’t use it

@BayAreaMotorcycleCommuting 2 күн бұрын

GoPro's action cameras are still the market leader, and for good reason - their feature set is truly incredible. However, they need to break free into other product markets. They recently bought a motorcycle helmet company, and plan to embed their tech into helmets... I'm not super excited about that idea. I'd like to see them move up-market into higher-end cinema gear, like DJI has done

@Ghoulstille 2 күн бұрын

I've heard from many sources that the gopro is crap. The software sucks and the camera itself is a lemon. Overheating, shutting off randomly, not uploading right, not charging and the list goes on. the other issue is buying one because you think you're gonna use it but then don't which is something a lot of us do. I never owned one due to the horror stories I heard about them. Not that I had any use for one to begin with.

@NiSE_Rafter 2 күн бұрын

Yup them releasing model after model with issue after issue just slowly killed my interest in owning one. Used to dream of upgrading from my knock off to a real GoPro but at this point no thanks.

@revgregory 2 күн бұрын

@@NiSE_Rafter The confusing array of models certainly didn't help with marketing them to a wider market, I looked at buying one a while back and found researching which one I wanted tedious. It took so long that, combined with reports of quality issues with some models, I simply talked myself out of it.

@acheeseburger7367 2 күн бұрын

They are too expensive to justify for most people. If you occasionally ride a bike or any kind of sport, you might want one. But the cameras are over 400 dollars. They should have developed the session more and made it cheaper (that seems like one of their best sellers anyways). Not to mention from people who use these a lot as content creators I have heard that their newer generations have terrible bugs, UI, QC, etc.

@eltigre0320 2 күн бұрын

I just got a HERO 12. It seems great and I haven’t had any issues. Looking forward to getting some videos on the bike with it!

@michaelbuddy 2 күн бұрын

its excellent

@WillDavlin 2 күн бұрын

🧦Wool socks to bed = most rem sleep possible 🟪🟨🟪

@MiggerPlease 2 күн бұрын

That only works if you're a homosexual

@PT5-Shorts 2 күн бұрын

And heat stroke

@MiggerPlease 2 күн бұрын

@@PT5-Shortsand gay

@OlivioSarikas 16 сағат бұрын

You really missed out in this video on explaining any of the market development in recent years and just brushed over that by shortly mentioning smartphones and insta360, where there would have been so much more to it that was really interesting. You also completely left out their Apps and Software, which have a major role in their decline

@Diggy22 2 күн бұрын

To be honest, the only people I’ve seen locally with GoPros have been bikers strapping them on their helmets. If the company really wanted to make a splash, they should have worked on improving the reliability of the camera (file transfer issues, battery life issues), and they should have capitalized on making cameras for the action film industry. After stuntmen started using GoPro cameras for movies and movie sequences in projects like Hardcore Henry, The Protector 2, and Jiu-Jitsu, they should have focused on advertising to stunt teams and action film makers. Also, the drone seemed like a legit product with potential, but again, they fudged the quality of the product, relying too much on brand recognition to get initial sales. Personally, I had thought about getting a GoPro in the past, until I realized that it was cheaper and more efficient to get a harness for my smartphone. Smartest decision I could have made at the time.

@offroad8055 5 сағат бұрын

I’ve been using a GoPro 5 (dirt bike riding) for years. Cons: battery dies quickly, horrible wind noise Pros: totally reliable, excellent quality in all lighting, only one corrupted file and that was after a crash that had the camera hit the ground pretty hard. I found a simple fix for the wind noise and it’s been a great camera!

@RingZero 15 сағат бұрын

I am by no means a GoPro guru but I recently bought a GoPro Black 12 and used it on my recent Alaska trip. Used it non-stop for 7 days with auto upload to the cloud every night during charging. I am using the GoPro Labs FW and the best available SD card - Samsung pro ultimate. The heating issues people are mentioning about are more towards slow SD cards where the CPU has to wait for the writes to complete. Its just my view and am thrilled to report that the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="487">8:7</a> aspect with 5.3k 30FPS resolution is fantastic and will never go lower than that. None of my iPhones have that resolution and they are over 6 yrs old. Time will tell if my investment in GoPro was worth it. None of my 6-8hrs video footage was corrupt or lost, now its time to organize and join all those videos 🙂

@_scorch 2 күн бұрын

i have a hero 9, and the overheating typically happens when recording for long periods with high resolution settings. i also use it as a "makeshift dashcam", which is nice because i basically take it wherever i go without really thinking about it. really wish they came out with a newer 360 camera though. was thinking of switching to insta360's cameras

@bloqk16 2 күн бұрын

To all that have contributed comments here up till Noon on July 3rd: I really appreciated all the input of the issues with the various GoPro products you've obtained over the years, publicly sharing the problems with them. For the longest time I've been tempted to get such a product, but the pricing was a turnoff. And after reading the difficulties many users had with the GoPros, it affirmed my procrastination with obtaining a GoPro. It is puzzling that with the refinements and reliability there's been with dashcams over the past decade, how is it that GoPro, with its upscale price tags, has functioning issues? Most puzzling is with the overheating, as vehicle dashcams can reliably operate with temperatures exceeding 122 degrees F, or 50 degrees Celsius.

@justin4n6 2 күн бұрын

Dash cams have holes for airflow and aren't trying to capture the same image quality. Action cameras are sealed and people want higher bit rate, higher frame rate and higher resolution which means a processor that makes more heat to process that video from the sensor to files on the memory card.

@bloqk16 2 күн бұрын

@@justin4n6 That makes sense. Thanks for the feedback.

@michaelbuddy 2 күн бұрын

dashcams have innovated VERY little for the past 7 years. They all use the same sony tech inside them with different housings and chinese brand names that will be gone next week. The reason you get the temp improvements with dashcams is because they have a completely different method of powering, which is why they must remain plugged in to work.

@C-V-Z 2 күн бұрын

As a freestyle drone guy, you cant beat a used $30 gopro hero4. The 1080 and 2.7k options look surprisingly good even today and you don't have to worry about losing an expensive camera. Little known fact about the hero 3&4 is that It also has analog pass-through so you can use the gopro as your fpv cam if you didn't want to run 2 separate cameras on your quad.

@boomerbear7596 2 күн бұрын

I've had many times where I thought about buying a GoPro but there was always that little check and balance in my being, "Do I really want this?" After hearing all the horror stories I'm glad I didn't. Nobody really talks about GoPro anymore these days anyway, and as a result I'm not surprised about the decline. Good video Company Man!

@derbagger22 Күн бұрын

I have a GoPro 3 and just bought a dji Osmo Action 4. The GoPro is at least 10 years old and the advancement made since is pretty impressive. I first got acquainted with GoPros when we were using them for a track day at VIR. A friend of mine had 1 and we filmed ourselves at Deal's Gap/Tail of the Dragon, back in 2011. It was impressive how their suction cups would stay solid past 150mph. I didn't use my GoPro much over the past few years, usually using it for fin vacation activities like scuba diving and on plane takeoffs and landings and other things. But, I'm looking forward to using the more advanced dji for a lot of driving videos. Took it all around Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. It is a narrow, but somewhat repeatable market. Especially at the prices you can get them for and run multiple angles.

@stevenm6301 12 сағат бұрын

Overheating, corrupted files, randomly shutting off, auto splicing videos, and their cloud/subscription thing. The end.

@daniel_rossy_explica Күн бұрын

I was at an Anime event in 2010 in Argentina, with a scrappy digital camera that could record video. I was trying to make a sort of video blog of the event, so I swung the camera to "film" the event and swung it back to my face because I was talking. I captured a few frames from a friend (who is a cameraman) that the camera "wasn't a go pro" to be used like that.

@Slimothy 13 сағат бұрын

*You want to know why we stopped using them? Because they OVERHEAT in under 10 minutes in a temperature controlled environment without direct sunlight. Absolutely ridiculous.*

@johnjones8330 4 сағат бұрын

We primarily use ours for water sports where the touch screen interface is terrible and basically on par with a cell phone in a waterproof enclosure. Would love more physical (customizable) buttons to get it ready to reliably work in the water.

@AutumnGarnet Күн бұрын

During the pandemic when webcams were outrageously expensive and/or impossible to find, I discovered that a GoPro Hero 3 Black Edition made a great little webcam when connected to a basic USB HDMI capture device. I still use one for that purpose from time to time.

@lexdfox 2 күн бұрын

I, like many others, just made the switch and a video about moving from gopro to another action camera company. I now use a DJI and an insta360. Being in motorcycle content, an action camera is key and for years I had gopros because that's all their was at the time. I kept an older hero7 going for years but was hearing complaints about the 9,10,11 etc so when mine finally recorded its last video clip (which was corrupted btw), I went straight to the competition.

@shanemente 2 күн бұрын

Got a GoPro before a vacation earlier this year. Love the device a lot!

@Polygraphice Күн бұрын

Some years ago I was planning a microbudget movie, and thought about using a GoPro for the primary camera since it would be small and could fit anywhere, had anti-shake technology and would be able to do some planned underwater shots. But the reviews I read indicated that it would create a fisheye distortion, which you needed to take extra steps to undo. So I began to look for something else with better image quality.

@rainbow_vader 2 күн бұрын

I remember thinking GoPros were the coolest thing 8-10 years ago and i only realized that I hadn't heard that name in a long time when this video dropped 💀

@KingTechHD 2 күн бұрын

8 years ago I proudly bought a GoPro for our Puerto Rico trip. It was perfect for everything. I stopped using it 6yrs ago. Became more of an inconvenience making sure it was charged, transferring media to my computer, & keeping up w/ all the accessories

@JCole78 Күн бұрын

My first GoPro was a GP 3+ Black; I loved it, and had an aftermarket battery pack that allowed me to record for up to 12 hrs without worrying about swapping out batteries. I didn’t upgrade until about 3 years ago when I bought a used 7 Black, and now I have a used 8 and 9 that were also used (I have less than $300 into all 3). My primary use is for when I’m riding my motorcycle, and occasionally as a walk around video camera. While I will never buy a new one ever again they havens let me down yet. I haven’t had problems with overheating, but I don’t use batteries in them. I use external power through USB ports for longer record times. My biggest complaint is their app asking you to sign in every time you want to use it as a remote. If I ever do decide to get a brand new action camera it won’t be a GoPro.

@SWExplore Күн бұрын

I own a GoPro Hero 9 and have used it to create a multitude of simple outdoor 4K 60fps videos that I publish on KZfaq. I had never experienced overheating problems, but in the early Hero 9's firmware and software updates I had a helluva time with the touch screen controls being unresponsive. This problem has in recent years been completely resolved. For the most part, I am happy with the GoPro's performance though I could never capture good low-light recordings no matter what I tried. For me, it has served its purpose, though I might consider upgrading to a different brand of camera in the future.

@KendallArnoldFishing 2 күн бұрын

I've got over 30 gopros I use for work and play. I love them, but they do have their issues. And nowadays there are some better options out there.

@grumpywolfgaming 2 күн бұрын

I'm sure it doesn't help that they put out products that aren't finished, then discontinues it and leaves you with a unusable product. Case in point is the go pro fusion. The software required to stich the footage together has a memory leak, they know this but just don't care and moved on to the next release. I spent a lot of money on this thing and will not trust the company again.

@mind-of-neo 7 сағат бұрын

Hearing you say things like "it ended up being an embarassing waste of time and money" in that trademark company man tone is hilarious to me. Also, I love seeing companies get what they deserve for being greedy.

@bjornkeizers 19 сағат бұрын

I bought a Hero 6 back in 2018. Used it on my bike a few times, had it mounted on top a DSLR for plane spotting (this was back when DSLR's didn't really do great video) and... that's about it. It was a fun gadget, but it had very limited uses for me to be honest. So I occasionally use it when I have a particular need for it, as it's still decently capable. But it's just not worth upgrading for me. I imagine plenty of others bought one and never really got enough use out of it to spend more on that product category.

@marcox.4024 Күн бұрын

The “shot on iPhone” commercials that later became a Vine trend meme made me realize phones were quickly catching up to the quality GoPro was offering while not having to make 2 separate investments.

@Ka_Gg 2 күн бұрын

I remember lots of people buying them around 2014. One person would actually use it for what it was intended. The others more or so just bought it to brag about how cool it was and barely even needed it. Then only a few of them would upgrade to the new model. As you stated they have a narrow market. I don't do much of the action sports stuff so the $30-$50 generic camera would do most of what I need. I'm not spending $300 or whatever they cost on something I'll barely use. Go pros sales are relatively stable after that drop so it isn't like they are in a free for all.

@ronsmith4325 2 күн бұрын

I bought a Hero2 back in the day, hated it.. never bought another action cam after that experience and just used a smartphone. I think the most infuriating part of it was their mounting accessories and how much they jacked the prices up. After already spending over $500 on the camera itself, having to pay $50 or more for some plastic mounting hardware that I would bet didn't even cost $1 to manufacture is a joke! Not to mention the issues with shutting off randomly, freezing, etc. Garbage!

@ma.2099 11 сағат бұрын

This might be the right place to ask. I have the newest GoPro, 1st time ever buying. I use it to record videos but also have the app to use it as a webcam. However, the app won’t even open anymore. I’ve read there are many problems with the app just not openly. I’ve done several trouble shooting steps but no idea where to go from here. And I don’t think I even care to try to use it anymore. Is anyone able to suggest help for me?

@davidmylchreest3306 16 сағат бұрын

I remember the CEO guesting as a judge on episodes of Shark Tank. They always say on there you should think about the size of your market. I guess he didn't listen.