The Differences Between ARROW and [old] VEKOMA Coasters

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808CoasterLife

808CoasterLife

4 жыл бұрын

Today weʻre going to examine the classic u-shaped track used by many manufacturers. The two main users of this track style are Arrow Dynamics and Vekoma. Today, Iʻll show you how you can tell the difference between an Arrow and an (old) Vekoma coaster. You may also learn how Arrow and Vekoma create their coasters, the history of both companies, and how these manufacturers are now.
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@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 4 жыл бұрын
Good info. I died with the star wars name... "what?"
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that meme would fit it perfectly! I’m glad you liked it!
@VinceHere98
@VinceHere98 2 жыл бұрын
Some things I’d like to point out: You mentioned that the lift hills on Vekoma’s coasters are pretty silent compared to the ones on Arrow’s coasters. However that is not usually the case, as the lift hill on Batwing at Six Flags America sounds similar to that of a construction jackhammer. Also, Drachen Fire wasn’t removed immediately in 1998. It stood SBNO until 2002 when it was eventually removed and sold for scrap. It was hoped that it would be relocated to another park, but no parks wanted to buy it, so off to the scrapyard it went. Plus, Ninja at Six Flags St. Louis was originally one of the star attractions of Expo 86 in Vancouver, where it was known as “Scream Machine”. After Expo 86 concluded, it was packed up and shipped off to Six Flags St. Louis, and was renamed to “Ninja”. Also, X2 opened in January 2002, a month after Arrow filed for Bankruptcy for what would be the final time. X2 did have a pass holder opening on Christmas Eve day of 2001. Plus it was supposed to have opened in the summer of that year but many mechanical issues caused its opening to be delayed until after 2001 turned to 2002.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@Toby1_
@Toby1_ Жыл бұрын
UNI Sans is one of my favourite fonts, recognised it instantly lol
@jkeeesssll4555
@jkeeesssll4555 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person in the world who loves jerky transitions on Arrow coasters? It saves some, especially the mine trains, from being boring sleeping pills.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know you’re certainly not the only one.
@ConceptualCoasters
@ConceptualCoasters 4 жыл бұрын
As far as old goes... I love arrow! The jankiness is a welcome change from most other coasters. Vekoma is my current favorite manufacturer though, sooo...
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
I can see why Vekoma is your favorite of the 2 because their new rides look great. I can also agree with your statement about Arrow as well!
@twistedcheese1
@twistedcheese1 4 жыл бұрын
I love arrow and vekoma. Arrow are my favourite they've done so much for the industry. Theres only 5 arrows in Europe. :( Lots of vekomas though. So far my favourite vekoma is kumali but will chance when I rise space mountain and the the ones at energylandia I think
@CoasterHour
@CoasterHour 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! It can certainly be difficult to tell the two apart so this will definitely help those who have trouble distinguishing the two.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I’m glad I can help!
@davidburke7475
@davidburke7475 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for clearing that up!
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@thequackenscoasterchannel2927
@thequackenscoasterchannel2927 4 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video. Keep up the good hard work man!
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I really appreciate it.
@themeparkfilmsindustries8406
@themeparkfilmsindustries8406 Жыл бұрын
Runaway Train is my only home parks Arrow Dynamics coasters.
@boomerangreverse3267
@boomerangreverse3267 4 жыл бұрын
4:13 an awesome ride experience, not a uncomfortable experience... you mixed them up!
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
The only Arrow/old Vekoma I’ve ridden is Matterhorn Bobsleds so I can’t judge!
@Mat_548_88
@Mat_548_88 3 ай бұрын
Mammut and Shaman (Magic Mountain in 1985) are both (Old) Vekoma's Coaster located in Gardaland, Italy... I think you should try Mammut because it's very long, it's so funny and it's very, very well themed!!!
@CarolinaCycloneJames
@CarolinaCycloneJames 3 ай бұрын
So blue hawk at Six flags over Ga. Was originally an arrow looper. Vokoma just took over the project
@imaginox9
@imaginox9 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, the only place where you can find Arrow coasters in Europe is at Blackpool Pleasure Beach, so if you're in Europe, there's a 99% chance it's a Vekoma coaster. Both manufacturers were big innovators in their own way. Anyway thanks for the video, I've always had a hard time figuring out which manufacturer it was between Arrow and Vekoma.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this video helped! From what I've found, most of the Arrows in Europe are at Blackpool. According to rcdb, there's one at PortAventura and one at Chessington World of Adventures. But that still pales in comparison to the many Vekomas in Europe. And I do agree that both manufacturers innovated throughout their lifetime!
@imaginox9
@imaginox9 3 жыл бұрын
@@808CoasterLife Didn't know about these two other European Arrows ! Nice !
@acllno
@acllno Жыл бұрын
@@808CoasterLife The arrow suspended coaster at Chessington was actually refurbished by Vekoma in 2002 with new trains which are much less restrictive; however, the track remained the same old Arrow track from 1990. Hoping Vekoma can retrack it soon because it's becoming a rough ride.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife Жыл бұрын
@@acllno Yes that is something to note. Hopefully it’ll be retracked sometime soon.
@davidwinfrey2861
@davidwinfrey2861 3 жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about the supports on arrow coasters. On arrow coasters on the corkscrews and loops the supports wrap around the elements but vekoma just uses the common supports
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct!
@tom58358
@tom58358 7 ай бұрын
That was only on the very early Arrows.
@davidshaw681
@davidshaw681 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, subscribed
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope you enjoy the rest of my content!
@neonthefox3550
@neonthefox3550 Ай бұрын
6:03 there’s a couple exceptions to this, like Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife Ай бұрын
Good point!
@Reelunique
@Reelunique 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say every Vakoma I’ve ridden I’ve felt beat up after more so than any-other coaster manufacture.
@Metisp
@Metisp 11 ай бұрын
For some reason, I keep thinking Ninja/Blue Hawk at Six Flags over GA was an Arrow coaster, but alas, Vekoma. Was Arrow originally suppose to build it?
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 10 ай бұрын
Blue Hawk at Over GA was 100% Vekoma. However, another ride called Ninja was started by Arrow but finished by Vekoma since Arrow went bankrupt. That one is at Six Flags St. Louis.
@3coasters
@3coasters 4 жыл бұрын
There are also Vekoma roller coasters that have cloned layouts of Arrow roller coasters, an example would be Big Loop at Heide Park in Germany this ride only mirrored the layout of Dragon Fyre from Canadas Wonderland.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
I never realized that until you mentioned it. Thanks for pointing it out!
@vitaltech5048
@vitaltech5048 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh why did you have to mention Vekoma flying Dutchman’s because firehawk was my favorite ride and got shut down 😭😭
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
I was pretty sad when I heard Firehawk was removed. Hopefully you’ll like its successor Orion when it opens.
@vitaltech5048
@vitaltech5048 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god. Please don’t mention Orion. I won’t get on that in a million years! Firehawk and Vortex was where it was at!
@cancercentral9997
@cancercentral9997 4 жыл бұрын
They actually have put vest restraints on an Arrow. Hot Wheels Sidewinder at Dreamworld uses vest restraints. Although it has Vekoma built trains.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, Vekoma should do the same thing to certain coasters.
@Zsullivan27
@Zsullivan27 Жыл бұрын
Arrow dynamics lifts hills vs vekoma lift hill Arrow dynamics: *loud annoying anti-rollback noises* Vekoma: HAHA Lift hill go BRRRRRRRRRRR!!
@teddygudelski6814
@teddygudelski6814 Жыл бұрын
there is new vekoma coming to the us and they are building it at Dollywood
@louiswright8282
@louiswright8282 3 жыл бұрын
Does Vekoma still use the Arrow track?
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 3 жыл бұрын
They still use it for some of their models, most notably, the Mine Train.
@louiswright8282
@louiswright8282 3 жыл бұрын
The boomerang?
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if they’re still selling normal boomerangs but I know they don’t use it for their family boomerangs.
@louiswright8282
@louiswright8282 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully theres a company out there that still uses the arrow track with decent smoothing. I love the design of it. IDK why
@obamaalert6602
@obamaalert6602 4 жыл бұрын
at darien lake there is a good arrow and two decent/bad vekomas
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve only heard good reviews about Viper!
@obamaalert6602
@obamaalert6602 4 жыл бұрын
@@808CoasterLife its a great ride
@mr.rollercoasters
@mr.rollercoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Viper is my second favorite ride there. The airtime in the back on the drop is insane.
@obamaalert6602
@obamaalert6602 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.rollercoasters is darien lake your home park
@mr.rollercoasters
@mr.rollercoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@obamaalert6602
@obamaalert6602 4 жыл бұрын
oh and i much prefer arrows the just so likable you cant hate a arrow coaster with a passion thats vekoma
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
That’s true!
@tismejaytee
@tismejaytee 4 жыл бұрын
I want new Vekoma in the US, too. Believe me..
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
We’ve been waiting long enough!
@warmerparty3862
@warmerparty3862 4 жыл бұрын
Can you ever RMC a steel coaster? Ever heard of Phantom’s Revenge and Steel Phantom?
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, technically that’s a makeover of a steel coaster. But Morgan renovated it. What if RMC renovates steel coasters🤔
@warmerparty3862
@warmerparty3862 4 жыл бұрын
I was mostly kidding, but also to give an idea for what it may look like. People are saying, though, that Morgan should be the RMC for old arrows.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
If that’s the case that could make Chance rides/Morgan more popular in the industry!
@warmerparty3862
@warmerparty3862 4 жыл бұрын
That would be good. Personally, I get to ride Phantom all the time.
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! It looks like a great ride with lots of ejector.
@mr.rollercoasters
@mr.rollercoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Arrow is a great manufacturer. But I also don't mind SLCs. As far as old goes though, I'll take Arrow
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! How many SLCs have you ridden?
@mr.rollercoasters
@mr.rollercoasters 4 жыл бұрын
Well only 1, Mind Eraser at Darien Lake, and I heard it's one of the better ones, so maybe that's why
@ejectoraircoasters222
@ejectoraircoasters222 4 жыл бұрын
Arrow were legendary innovaters, not afraid of a challenge. And Vekoma... they just stole arrow's track and never did made any changes or upgrades until recently
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Arrow did a lot to shape the coaster industry.
@cancercentral9997
@cancercentral9997 4 жыл бұрын
Wish they innovated in ways that would keep them in business. As in advances in track profiling and computer aided design.
@catchmeoutsidehowboutthat6363
@catchmeoutsidehowboutthat6363 4 жыл бұрын
Vekoma is so much better than arrow dynamics
@jeroenalphenaar6222
@jeroenalphenaar6222 3 жыл бұрын
vekoma is a very flexible company which is why they have a good relation with disney e.g: Expedition Everest, Big Thunder Mountain.( disney.fandom.com/wiki/Vekoma (short list with all disney vekoma coasters)) you wouldn't recognise them as vekoma based on their track. also to combat the argument of not innovating vekoma built the worlds first tilt coaster, wich is currently the only one to go 90 degrees.
@DDK_channel_1
@DDK_channel_1 Жыл бұрын
I like the video, but 6:45 is completely wrong. B&M was only considered. There pricings were too high and arrow was actually planned to make it all along. This is common misinfo, so I dont blame you. Source: ElToroRyan
@808CoasterLife
@808CoasterLife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction!
@DDK_channel_1
@DDK_channel_1 Жыл бұрын
@@808CoasterLife No problem!
@BeckeyWave
@BeckeyWave 8 ай бұрын
6:57 umm srry but this was a arrow project 100% of the time never B&M
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