You know Nifty ? (i didnt know that) Neat ! 🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥 Admittedly , 1 for all is the only place i know her from . But i really enjoy that series

Homie's gonna get mega copyrighted for playing Electrodynamix lol (If you do wanna keep the joke and avoid the copyright, Fingerdash or... just Dash should be fine)

I've seen it but don't remember if it was on this channel. "DM who expects their players to be their new full-time friends" definitely rang a bell though. I think it was a direct screenshot of the game posting on roll20 or r/lfg.

@@TheMightyBattleSquid Crispy may have covered that one. It sounds familiar now that you bring it up. I can't remember where I might have that one though.

I haven't seen it on channel persay, but I have encountered it in real life. a DM would want us to play 6+ hour sessions (where all of us where casual players who used this as also time to hang out with friends, rather than full on gaming for 6 plus hours) just gaming, and got mad at several of us who had out of game responsibilities that required us to leave after that time limit (mine was 6 hours) if not before. the breaking point for me was when said DM made the combat harder because we had to leave after that time frame to get back at us for 'not caring enough' about the game, essentially saying he had more time to prep and made it seem like he fully planned on killing a few PCs over this. mind you, I usually give them an hour ahead headsup that 'hey, im going to have to leave in an hour' as well so it wasnt like the few that did have to leave, just left without warning. there was the dissconnect of the DM wanting to play a more serious, more focused game while the players did not, but the conversation of 'realignment' i guess would be the term for it, was never had.

@@lydiasparrow6261 Okay, that's kind of awful. No DM should ever act like that.

Closest to those that I know Crispy has covered is DM's and players mad that people had social lives or sick/dead family members that required missing sessions. In those cases everyone was given a heads up yet next session usually had DM punishing whoever had to cancel.

The way I've roughly described it before, is 'Star Wars, but the Empire is the good guys.'

Min maxing is considering some stats to be "dump stats".

@@functionatthejunctionwait, so if you don't go point buy and take straight 13's for your stats your a min maxer?

​@@notthetank2404I've seem more people than I like saying this unirocally. Mostly people who want to "play the underdog" but also dont want to "be a underdog"... somehow they love the idea of sucking on things but just as long as they dont feel any consequences.

@@functionatthejunction I promise you the game is more fun when your character actually functions and you don't have to cycle in a new one every week

@@DumDum5551 Thats why its so important to have a DM that understands the game is more than rolling dice and kicking in the dungeon door. We used to go whole sessions with not a single die rolled.

I'll agree on this one, especially considering how the DM treated D&D as being "more important" than real life. Makes me wonder if he ever did anything important in his life, other than play a buttload of D&D and post stupid memes all the time.

I mean getting kick out because of a meme should really tell you this person can't take a joke and it ain't even those offensive you hear in other stories.

@@pippo17173 it wasn’t mainly the fact that he kicked me out over the memes over the fact that I wasn’t interacting in the meme channel and that I was mainly only focused on the scheduling chat. And like I said in the story- I got info from other people who had played dnd with him in the past- Must say I dodged a bullet.

This...actually reminds me of when the guy who would later be realized to be our group's problem player did a brief turn in the DM's seat. He basically got butt-hurt that our party was "overpowered" because we...had really great synergy of perfectly normal PC abilities, and a group that was fairly clever in their use. We were playing 4e, so everyone has combat powers, and thus were using them to pretty decent effect, and he decided that he didn't like this because we were "ruining" his combats, so he'd do things like decide that the monsters were immune to our abilities' rider effects (they'd take damage, but not be knocked prone, suffer forced movement, or whatever the ability did), and similarly would limit what skills we were able to use, or decide that a PC "couldn't" do something even with a high roll for obnoxious reasons (my Paladin was literally never able to use Stealth, because she wore heavy armor, and in his mind must therefore be incapable of moving without clanging like a crash cymbal...even if my total check was higher than the Rogue's Stealth check). He didn't quite accuse us of min-maxing, but he did constantly call us "overpowered" and say that we weren't actually playing "right," because we'd made a less-than-heroic mercenary party (with his full approval!). Kept trying to find an excuse to make my Paladin "fall," even though it's explicit in the 4e rules that this can't happen, or to claim that some of our magic items had a chance of "spell failure" making their enchantments just "self-destruct," etc., all in hopes of neutering what we could do. Some folks are just really quick to claim "cheating" or "min-maxing," just because their players are actually approaching the game mechanics with an ounce of understanding.

Gettin melty with it! I'm more a fan of the Flamer. The heavy Flamer! Somehow, even after 80 levels, it just doesn't get old in Martyr 😂

Also why is OP confused when people start punching the tank, that's very effective in 40K. Also they can explode on the tabletop when killed too, did the DM roll for it? On the table its a 1/6 chance, unless that unit specifically has a higher chance to explode, or you can use a command point to force an explosion (Orks can also ram into you whilst exploding)

Gives a whole new meaning to "double A battery"

Yeah, I had to laugh when he said that. Just took me by surprise because I sometimes read ahead of the narration and it made me do a double take

@@Nerobyrne Alcoholics Anonymous

AA, Double-A, and Triple-A (Anti-Aircraft Artillery) are all acceptable for anti-air

Commander, do you need a double a battery, or double a battery... Double a battery, are you fucking stupid? Uh...

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@@AmonTheWitch i am, frankly, agog at your blasé accusation. unfortunately I just talk like this

fair

I'm agog to see it used more often

​@@AmonTheWitchAstarion: *puts a knife to my throat Me: "So you have chosen death!"

"hey bro can you hand me the AA batteries?"

Normally would be letting the DM, not the rules have final say. Yes, people hate that because it keeps them from doing stupid stuff.

He must have gotten either bored with the idea, or just was plain fickle and irresponsible. I'd say you dodged a bullet there; chances were, he wasn't going to be a very good DM.

Foreigners just want ANY reason to make themselves look better than everyone else. In fact, they'll do ANYTHING to make sure they can brag about them living somewhere that isn't america. They're the country equivalent of linux users in that aspect.

That's honestly a good retort...ask them why they're making light of dead children.

Agreed. But I also say this as someone who lives outside of the US, you mostly see Americans making fun of it so no wonder "edgy people" think it's funny. I mean look at how many jokes ppl make of Palestine. It's insane.

I honestly didn't find that comment so bad.. (let's ignore the racist shit afterwards, that's a no go), because in my mind I interpreted that as a clearly bitter and cynical "joke". Like, you have to joke about it to be able to deal with it because you can't avoid it. Am I wrong?

@@SobiTheRobot Because it's funny. To be serious, I like dark humor a lot, but... it's best used with people who know you. If you bust out dark humor with people you've just met, it's very easy to be misunderstood. My close friends say all sorts of abominable stuff to each other, but that only works because we know each other enough to know that those things are said in jest. If I said those same things to a new acquaintance, they'd probably assume I was a sociopath.

I dont understand. Care to elaborate? Your story sounds interesting.

and whos fault is that?

this attitude is the dumbest thing I've ever heard "Hey Bro, you're too smart to play with us, you know the game too well, so could you make your character the way we want you to? We are all selfish morons that can't read rules..... you see." is what I hear every time someone talks about making characters. Also, if you cannot provide challenge to that character, you're a bad DM.

This is interesting. As the resident min/maxer of my group (But also, the resident DM who has only been able to be a player in 2 campaigns in 17 years cause no one wants to DM cause "it's to much work") I always make my characters as busted and versatile as humanly possible. Then stick to just hitting stuff with a big stick until something comes a long that is meant to bully us. I enjoy the roleplaying and world building, combat in the vast majority of TTRPGs is hot garbage, so I do my best to trivialize it if there is gonna be a party wipe, but otherwise am happy to do big strong meat stick caricatures. I DO think there is some validation to "min/maxing is actually basic character building." if you have a basic understanding of the way the game works, you aren't going to make a Barbarian that dumped STR and CON, has a massive Wisdom and Int. Maybe we have different opinions on what the phrase means. As a fairly experienced TTRPG player. The term is someone who goes out of their way to maximize Pros and minimize Cons. If I am a Barbarian in a group of 6 people, two of whom are casters. I probably don't need a high Charisma or Intelligence. These can be "dump" stats. If I'm a 3.5 Vancian Wizard, I don't need a Str above a 10. I can probably drop it to an 8. A Bard needs a high Charisma, Clerics need high Wisdom etc. these are all things that fall under the umbrella of min/maxing. Are there people who take it to the extreme? Sure. We have a name for those. We call them Munchkins. Perhaps that's what you are thinking of? Munchkins are the ones who try to "win" at the game, even if it means other people don't have fun anymore. Min/Maxers just enjoy tinkering with every part of a TTRPG system and seeing what they can do. Even if the result isn't always balanced. Most Min/Maxers (Who are not also Munchkins) I've had the pleasure of gaming with abhor ruining other people's fun. The whole purpose of pen and paper is to get together, be irresponsible with your sleeping schedule for a night hang out, roll shiny rocks and have fun. tl;dr Munchkin= The person who tries to "win" and ruin the game. Min/Maxer= Someone who enjoys tinkering with game systems and theory, but won't break the fun for others. DM= -The poor Sod who desperately wants to just play the game as a character, please, god, why won't someone just run a campaign. I just want a crumb of not knowing what comes next. I'm so thirsty for adventure.- The person who does all the world-building and tries to give the players a positive and memorable mission, filled with laughter, thrills and sorrows.

@@bobhadababy4079 I think it's arguably even more granular that that. Munchkins are often the people who deliberately try to subvert the rules, basically trying to act like they do more than they actually do, for peak "I'm the best!" effect. Stacking things that shouldn't, claiming a spell or ability does something beyond what it actually should, etc., often while having a build that makes absolutely no sense. They pretend to have much greater knowledge of how things work, hoping to weasel their way past a less skilled/knowledgeable DM. A Min-Maxer is just trying to make sure that they're at the most statistically advantageous, in that they're playing to their strengths and trying to minimize their weaknesses. On a similar vein is the Optimizer, who is about making sure that they have a character who is getting the most out of their PC; their spell list only has the spells that will provide the most value, and they'll usually have chosen a class that they can get the most out of, like a Cleric or Druid back in the 3.x days. Both of these are products of varying levels of "system mastery," though the former is often more focused on stats and numbers (they're quicker to want those +X items, wanting to beef up numbers), where the latter is more concerned about quality over quantity, in many ways. Having one good spell over a large number of bad ones, and knowing how to get the best use out of all of them. Then there's the Average Player, who might know to keep their Wizard's INT as their top score, but might also feel the need to throw more points than necessary into another stat because it seems like it has an important effect (higher CON because better HP, for instance). They might also take spells that just "sound good," or "will help the whole group," rather than what's advantageous to their PC, or the most optimal "bang for its buck." This is often primarily due to a lack of system mastery, and can lead to a PC that's underpowered, or at least feels that way. Sounds like @ten_of_diamonds7575 has a group of Average Players, who might not have the level of system mastery to truly construct optimal PCs, while the other player is probably both a Min-Maxer and an Optimizer, and is building PCs that probably are going first/early in the combat, and are doing a ton of damage and/or have a full complement of buffs they're stacking in order to be able to just go to town, while the other players are just kind of plinking tiny bits of damage or lesser effects. And thus, when they felt that they weren't doing enough/were having all the fun sucked out of the game because they didn't really get to do much, they chose to ask the other player to tone his highly optimized play style down, only to have him basically try to tell them that _they're_ the ones min-maxing, and he's just building a normal character...which then kinda makes him sound more like a Munchkin than anything. He doesn't offer to help (most Optimizers I know are happy to help someone trick out a PC), but rather seems to want to make them feel like he's not the problem by saying "I'm just making a perfectly normal character!", so that he can continue to be the dude who's better at everything.

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Indeed- as I said in my post- I picked psych as a minor! With my major being education. I thought this would be great to help me with looking at students behavior and learning styles and modifying classes to be the most beneficial to them!

That dungeon master was right about tome of battle. Tome of battle is exceptionally poorly written and balanced.

@@robinheinemann1740 Only against other martial classes. Tome of Battle classes still don't hold a candle to a wizard or CoDzilla. There are some poorly written bits, admittedly, but things like Iron Heart Surge have a clear design intent, even if the RAW theoretically allows you to do incredibly stupid things.

@@WombatDave I think this is the pitfall of most DMs honestly. Not knowing what RAW vs RAI is and not setting hard-ground rules for players. Also not knowing the extent of how gobshite Vancian is. My group switched over to PF1 and swapped out for Spheres of Power and Spheres of Might instead of traditional classes. Still some absurdly busted stuff (Cause what's a pen and paper system without overlooked broken synergies.) But it's a significantly more level playing field for the layman player and a min/maxer.

@@bobhadababy4079 I absolutely love the Spheres systems. And yeah, you can make some seriously busted builds, but the system largely works on the premise that if everything is overpowered, then nothing is. Though it definitely requires more work from the DM, because you can't just grab standard monsters and expect them to stand up against Spheres characters at 'appropriate' CR. Also, that is a system where the rules are generally written really well, and where they aren't, there's enough ambiguity that any player is going to know that they need to ask their DM how they think it works.

I love that the Astartes have "mass produced military grade".... Power armour? I thought one of the big things about those was that you can't just make more.

Well I do nooooow. JK. I knew that. I played CoD.

Dude was probably their vicarious outlet. Saying the things that they wanted to say, but didn't have the requisite cojones.

Come on… for someone who presumably plays a game where people regularly parse every word in a particular rule or description, it’s “COULDN’T care less”.

So you DO care! :D

If you could care less, it means you care

I figured it was a sign of shifting attitudes around mental health encouraging people to pursue education in the area. The less math is certainly a benefit!

No, the OP is saying his group is playing chaos cultists fighting the Imperium and compares their group to the Rebel Alliance (if the force had really bad side effects). They are not comparing the Imperium to the Rebel Alliance. But I get where you are coming from, the wording is a bit confusing.

From the sound of things in that story, it was because the world setting was literally Earth. And the country was therefore a real-world country, and from the sound of things, racist dude wasn't doing it in-character...this was a genuine belief. That's what made the other players uncomfortable. Also, some people just find racism unpleasant, whether based in real-world or in a fantasy realm. I know I found it really grating when a former problem player in our old college group would trot out fantasy racism, because he wasn't doing it for world-building purposes, or to be in-character. He was doing it 100% to be a jerk to other players, because he never directed it at NPCs. It was always specifically zoned in on other players, usually to single out whomever he had decided he didn't like at the time (note, "didn't like" often meant a player that was being lighthearted when he wanted hardcore violence and grimdark, or just whose play-style he'd decided he disapproved of). And similarly, this is often a reason for players to be uncomfortable with it in-game from a DM: fantasy racism is almost always going to affect their PCs, not the NPCs, and it's only going to make things unnecessarily harder, and can often feel like a player is being singled out for mistreatment. It's the sort of thing where it can get really difficult to not feel like the DM is intentionally doing this to make you suffer, if you're the only PC of that race in the group.

Baldur's Gate ended with Throne of Bhaal and Sarevok being redeemed.

There's a difference between a team-focussed character and an incompetent character. From the explanation the DM did everything he could to put that player into a situation where their character had no options, up to and including having soldiers under their command refuse orders. Then, when the player was frustrated because the DM didn't take his player characters into account in any way and tried to make up for that weakness within the rules of the game, the DM got angry? If I spent an hour kicking you in the nuts, you tried to get some nut protection and I accused you of being a prick for mitigating the crap I just put you through, would that make sense to you? There are tons of ways to involve such a character in a way that lets them be useful instead of worthless, but if the DM doesn't give the player any opportunity to use any of their skills during a campaign, that's just bad etiquette. Blowing up at them because they didn't have fun when you made sure they wouldn't also doesn't seem very stable.

ain't readin all that shit lol

@@mrosskne Fair enough. Guess that explains your take in the original comment as well.

@@AndragonLea explains that it's correct, yeah

Damn okay- first of all, I’m going into grad school as well. Second of all a psych minor is very useful for many individuals who might consider applying it to their jobs. As a teacher this can allow me to analyze the human behavior of my students and plan accordingly. This also opens the door for me to take school psychology for my masters and can maybe lead to me being a guidance counselor or a school psychologist on top of the opportunities to become a teacher. So please think before you speak.

Also just a heads up- not everyone is only interested in the amount of money they can make. Sure I want a decent salary but I went into education to help others and make a positive impact on future generations. Not to earn cash.

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When you're playing in a group, it's important to make sure that the rest of the group is comfortable with that kind of character choice. Many people play D&D as a form of escapism and don't want to play out a "my boss is a massive racist" storyline.

​ @cartoonhippie6610 okay, so it sounds like OP was someone who does not want to explore how to re-educate racist to be an kind/understanding person theory. everyone has a logic they see the world through, all we need to do is constantly test our and others logic, that can be uncomfortable when wrong, but its better then running away and being ignorant. the factors in the story that was going to take place are 1. racist 2. going form country to country unifying them with Magoffins sure we dont know enough about the story, but I think it might have been hard to find the magoffin if they destroyed everything and tried to pick through the rubble. my opinion is its more fun to not be a murder hobo, and as someone that does stories, I cant imagine how to continue a story when all links to a story aspect have been destroyed

Honestly, in Europe, I hear often jokes about US school shootings. The thing is, when we do so, we don't joke about the dead kids, we joke about the crooked politicians who are enabling it.

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