The DOs and DON’Ts When Installing Polyurethane Suspension Bushings

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Garage Fab

Garage Fab

Жыл бұрын

There's a right way and a whole lot of wrong ways to install bushings. It isn't as straight forward as you'd think. Here's a quick how-to that will help guide you through assembling your suspension bushings properly.
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@tsslaporte
@tsslaporte Жыл бұрын
I would be careful with using a bolt that has a shank that's the exact size of your tabs. Especially since the tabs will deform some when tightening. If you run out of threads your torque wrench will click off but the joint isn't necessary tight. The bolt sees a relatively low load because the bolt is tight(Joint stiffness ratio). If the bolt isn't able to provide enough preload to the inner sleeve then the bolt will see more load than it should. This is why you see bolt holes in tabs get egg shaped because the bolt wasn't tight enough. With that said if you use enough washers to make sure the nut has threads to grab on to then you are golden.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
You just got yourself a pinned comment. I appreciate that. “Good point” would be an understatement.
@bw3506
@bw3506 Жыл бұрын
Yea well non issue if you use a lock washer.
@EricFixalot
@EricFixalot Жыл бұрын
I'd rather use a thicker tab than a bunch of washers personally.
@bw3506
@bw3506 Жыл бұрын
@@EricFixalot I certainly wouldn't stack lock washers on anything.
@EricFixalot
@EricFixalot Жыл бұрын
@@bw3506 True, maybe one on each side
@jaybauer6978
@jaybauer6978 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for never assuming that your audience knows what the heck they’re doing. And, more to the point, for never adopting a patronizing attitude when you set things straight. Your build videos have been and continue to be tremendously helpful. Thanks for keeping up the standards and the humanity.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay! That means a lot to me. No one likes to feel stupid. Sometimes it’s a delicate dance to inform without insulting.
@rwbodiford
@rwbodiford Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab You are much, much better at it than me lol, I can try my damndest to inform without intent of insult, but I don't succeed near as often as I wish I could.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
@@rwbodiford Haha! Well it’s not often, but sometimes a little potentially insulting sternness goes a long way.
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 11 ай бұрын
@@GarageFab Well said
@briancorrigan5350
@briancorrigan5350 Жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you. The difference between these and OEM is on an OEM bushing the rubber is bonded to both the inner and outer barrel. The only movement is the flex of the rubber between the inner and outer metal barrels. That's why when changing things like control arms, you don't torque them up until they are on the ground (or ramps) under their own weight. That way, you are tightening them up in a position in the middle of the suspension's range of motion: In full compression they twist one way, in full droop, they twist the other way. If you tightened them up fully while unladen in the air at full droop, they would be much more likely to tear at full compression because now you are asking the rubber to twist in one direction to cover the full range of the suspension's motion. the take-away: Tighten them while on the ground or they will tear quickly.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Excellent information, Brian. Thank you. You would be surprised how many “knowledgeable” technicians get this wrong.
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. I've had this discussion with alot of my helpers. "Never tighten rubber suspension bushings with the vehicle jacked up". They won't last 6 months
@michaelwhite-oi1ft
@michaelwhite-oi1ft Жыл бұрын
Not always. Mazda leaf spring bushings have the inner sleeves bonded in but not the outer. They press into the leaf spring eyes and the bushings on the shackles ate not bonded to either. Same for square body chevy trucks and many others.
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwhite-oi1ft There are always minor exception. Older Grand Cherokees have bushing at the back of the lower A-arms that are bonded to their housings but not the part of the control arm that sides into it. But the front bushings in the same A-arms are fully bonded so you still have to have full weight on the suspension before you torque everything
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
While we’re at it, Toyota/Lexus also have bushings with bonded inner sleeves that press into an eye and are therefore not bonded on the outside. They are rubber, though, and are not lubricated so I follow the same tightening procedure.
@henkkaj73
@henkkaj73 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. No excess blabbering but straight to the point and everything presented in an easily understandable fashion. Subscribed immediately, just starting on the first project car where I have to rebuild the entire suspension and this kind of info is priceless. Thanks you!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I hope to see updates on this build! If you need guidance, you know where to find me!
@richardleroux8100
@richardleroux8100 8 ай бұрын
I would agree great info and to the point. I’m in the process of doing this on my 88gt fiero it’s a resto build a barn find no motor. The car sat for 23 years. All the hardware for the suspension had to be cut off. Or it broke off and the. Had to be cut off. So poly upgrade it is. Your video help refresh my memory on installing them. Thanks.
@stco2426
@stco2426 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Very easy to follow and worth many more than one watches.
@niveknospmoht8743
@niveknospmoht8743 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I have fixed a few 'death wobble' trucks just by installing longer sleeves that lock down when the bolts are torqued. It's amazing how little movement in suspension will create such a large issue
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I’ve had a few people ask me how to fix death wobble, but I honestly haven’t really experienced it. It’s not a problem we see often in the mini truck world.
@dogsbyfire
@dogsbyfire Жыл бұрын
Dude! Fantastic video! I've replaced the suspension bushings on my whole truck myself, but I never before fully understood how the parts function as a set. I am so grateful for this video. You are an excellent teacher.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words my friend! Happy to be of service. 🙏
@shanechostetler9997
@shanechostetler9997 Күн бұрын
Since terminology is important, the fitting where grease is introduced is called a hydraulic grease fitting😊. But everyone calls it a zero fitting. But this video is very well made, thank you.
@daniel73minshall
@daniel73minshall 11 ай бұрын
Very informative videos. I've done this for years and I know the tolerances need to be damn near perfect when dealing with rod ends and bushings. But, I like to see someone else out there that knows what they are doing also. Good videos man. Keep up the good teaching on all you do.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
Thank You, Daniel! I appreciate your kind words. 🍻
@nicki8731
@nicki8731 Жыл бұрын
That was a really good video! I watched all 6 minutes and 52 seconds, thank you for making everything all nice and concise :D
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure Nick! Thank you for donating your 6 minutes and 52 seconds. 🙏 See you next time!
@pfsantos007
@pfsantos007 Жыл бұрын
More than I ever expected to learn in my lifetime when it comes to bushings. Enjoyed it for sure.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Heck yes! Happy to be of service. Thank you, a Paul.
@majornerd
@majornerd Жыл бұрын
Wow! So cool to hear you reference Max. He explained how an engine worked in the back of class when we were in high school. Awesome guy.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
That sounds like him! It’s interesting… I’ve never met the guy yet I feel and talk like I know him. Prolly creepy now that I say it out loud. 😳
@25MinutesToGo
@25MinutesToGo 6 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across the channel. Finally, somebody is making videos of the small details everyone else's leaves out that are so important. Major companies instructional videos always leave this out. They just say insert and tighten to spec without going into How it's supposed to function with the part that was just installed
@themetalfusionologist
@themetalfusionologist Жыл бұрын
I’ll classify this as one of the best YT vids out there. Actually very informative to people who don’t know, but also informs the people who THINK they know of proper techniques for safety and durability. Bravo bro
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steven! That is quite the honor. That’s what makes KZfaq so great. You could learn something, even if you thought you already knew it, all in the privacy of your own mind. For those that struggle with self-worth, No one has to know they didn’t know something. Conflict-free learning! Cheers my friend!
@frankyq21
@frankyq21 Жыл бұрын
Yessss! Now that was a great and well articulated run down of suspension bushings and components. Even if you’re not fabricating and all you’re doing is installing bolt on components like mid or long travel kits this is something you should be aware of. Make sure the manufacturer is giving you quality parts
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes!! So many people talk crap about certain types of suspension parts when really it’s just low quality stuff. Thank you my friend!
@jasoneverhart6813
@jasoneverhart6813 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Anytime you can give some knowledge about fabrication I am always interested. Your presentation style and ability to explain concepts in the simplest way make for great content. I don't feel talked down to or requiring my own shop to accomplish any task you present.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! That means a lot, Jason. 🙏 Your final point has been my purpose for creating Garage Fab from the beginning; To show people big things can be accomplished in their own garage. Thank you for the kind words! 👊
@rennakanote2411
@rennakanote2411 10 ай бұрын
​@@GarageFab I need to do a control arm bushing procedure. If the cottor pin gets warped or destroyed from my extraction process, which cottor pin should I choose?
@MobileTech296
@MobileTech296 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video. Explaining not only what to do, but what not to do and why in an easy to understand manner without sounding patronizing. As others have said, that can be a tricky balance to find when teaching. Nicely done.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ken! 🙏
@Verticalpedalgarage
@Verticalpedalgarage Жыл бұрын
Best teacher on the web man!!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
🙏 Thank you my man!
@UnconventionalMetal
@UnconventionalMetal Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@heathhylton4746
@heathhylton4746 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that statement!!
@soltribeprojects2055
@soltribeprojects2055 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah🫡
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
@@soltribeprojects2055 Thank you friends. 🙏 I’m honored.
@davidwoods8982
@davidwoods8982 Жыл бұрын
What a nice job of describing the correct way to mount a bushing assembly! The bushings I’m using specify white lithium grease in case anyone didn’t get that information with their bushings. I use drum brake bearing grease(stringy stiff grease) on the bolts and, a bit of red loctite in the nuts to make sure they stay put.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Good info! Thank you David. Much appreciated. 🙏
@simonalvarado8451
@simonalvarado8451 Жыл бұрын
​@@GarageFabv n x cm xn hmm xmZ vs Z vs n
@kevinmiller8865
@kevinmiller8865 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was worried I was doing them wrong but I’ve been doing them exactly that way. Also just noticed the Keep Moving Forward sign very awesome.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you Kevin. 🙏 Keep an eye on the sign. I’ve got some interesting plans in mind for it.
@kevinmiller8865
@kevinmiller8865 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab 👊🏻awesome
@brandonlittle6444
@brandonlittle6444 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative videos. Very exciting channel to find! Thanks for not making things longer than necessary to hit the 10 minute-mark!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Brandon! Thank you for watching.
@ClintsStreetMachines
@ClintsStreetMachines Жыл бұрын
Escellent video again. You keep addressing things that I am currently dealing with. Love it.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Is it possible you have a creepy KZfaqr stalker? Just kidding. I’m not the type to look in peoples windows. Usually.
@ClintsStreetMachines
@ClintsStreetMachines Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab That's why I keep the blinds shut.
@99jeepxjguy97
@99jeepxjguy97 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am a through bolt rust prevention greaser. Thanks. Great video to help everyone understand bushings, and how important it is to have them correctly built, and installed.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Haha! A bolt greaser! Something tells me you see snow once in a while. ❄️
@markpitts5194
@markpitts5194 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab Welcome to the UK. Everything rusts this time of year. Every time I work on one of my cars the Mrs. asks why my cloths are covered in 'gold glitter'.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Haha! Excellent.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын
​@@GarageFab can't stand anti seize and hate it with a passion it's trash. CV joint grease works a heck of a lot better at least for me.
@JacopoSkydweller
@JacopoSkydweller 10 ай бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk What's wrong with anti-seize?
@lolsmol
@lolsmol Жыл бұрын
I like how at first you asked what's wrong. I didn't know what I was looking at, but as you went through it, I could start seeing what was wrong. It was so helpful!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! Happy to help my friend. Thank you for that. 🙏
@davidwoods8982
@davidwoods8982 10 ай бұрын
This is a spot on video! Everything he said is correct. I’m talking as a tool&die maker with 50+ years experience. Really well done! Thank you!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, David! That’s a joy to hear. I appreciate you my friend. 🙏
@blwnvtwn
@blwnvtwn Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I follow and watch your content, I don't want to just know what works, BUT WHY IT WORKS. As always, super informative, intelligently simple and concise. A++
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Ah! We were cut from the same cloth. There is nothing more important than the WHY! Thank you my friend. 🙏 See you in the next.
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 Жыл бұрын
A couple of additional comments - when a ZERK grease point is used, make sure the sleeve is welded in a position where the nipple is accessable with the suspension member fitted to the vehicle - sometimes you can correct this with a 90 or 135 fitting, but not always. If the fastener uses a castellated nut which takes a split pin, you can usually replace it with a stainless steel "R" clip - they won't rust in place and are easily removed, and they're re-useable. Depending on the specific application, it may be wise to use a longer bolt than actually required and drill the end, after the retaining nut, for an "R" clip - it doesn't often happen, but if for some reason the nut loosens, the clip will prevent it falling completely off and so prevent the bolt backing out. If you have access, you can do the same thing with bolts into captive nuts. Something I got from Justin* is to turn up some alloy spacers that are a close fit to the sleeves and use them instead of the 'plastic' insert when tacking parts together - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l693h7GGm86rYoU.html *He also has a lot of sound advice to compliment this gentleman's advice - www.youtube.com/@TheFabricatorSeries/featured
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
All good info! I like the idea of the R clips. Toyota uses those a lot and they’re really classy looking and, as you mentioned, reusable. I think I might have to incorporate those in some stuff soon. Ah, Justin. Fellow Las Vegas fabby guy. Part of the reason I wanted to become a famous KZfaq fabricator. 😉 Thank you Brother. 🙏
@maisyray
@maisyray 4 ай бұрын
So nice to have a direct and to-the-point Instruction video. Great Editing Thank you
@VictorMPR
@VictorMPR Жыл бұрын
This probably only applies to the after-market polyurethane bushings. Most OEM bushings are basically melted rubber that is stuck to both the inner and outer sleeves. Then it becomes important to tighten these bushings with the control arm at rest or “normal ride height” or the bushing will be twisted when the vehicle is on the ground.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
You are correct Victor. I probably should have made that more clear. It’s surprising how often I see technicians installing control arms with bonded rubber bushings and tightening up the bolts on the lift. 🤦🏻‍♂️ With polyurethane bushings, the sleeve is not bonded and is designed to slip, so it doesn’t matter when you tighten the bolts. Thank you Victor!
@VictorMPR
@VictorMPR Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab BONDED!! That’s the word I was looking for… then I had to go and say “melted rubber blah blah blah” LMAO. Anyway, your video is perfectly clear as it pertains to exactly what you are talking about. My comment is more off-base, although related. I appreciate the great content on your channel and how clearly you explain it all!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you back, Victor! Cheers.
@tyotee4361
@tyotee4361 8 ай бұрын
@@GarageFab Oh I'm glad I came back to this video and read the comments, I am replacing OEM with MOOG OEM-like bushings and got spooked haha. Thanks for making the video and clarifying that, I had no idea there was a difference!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 8 ай бұрын
Yes Sir! Big difference! Bonded rubber bushings aren’t meant for large amounts of twisting movement. So after installing your new bushings, make sure you set the vehicle down before fully tightening up the bolts. That can be really hard especially if your vehicle is low, but your bushings will thank you.
@bw3506
@bw3506 Жыл бұрын
I've never really built a full suspension but I have converted several different types to poly. All this seems very obvious to me but I guess I was learning on things that were pre-engineered. Thanks for the tip on where to get ends.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
True. I think all the times I’ve seen mistakes where when people tried to make their own bushings. And once from a small company that sold custom control arms. They’re not in business anymore. 🤔
@88HillTop
@88HillTop Жыл бұрын
Awsome clear and concise video. Thank you! I've never built a suspension, but I plan on building jeep wrangler just with a frame and a tub
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Sounds like a fun project. If you need guidance, you know where to find me. Best of luck!
@knowbull5hit590
@knowbull5hit590 5 ай бұрын
This was so helpful and informative and your attitude was great. Definitely checking out more of your channel
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 5 ай бұрын
Very much appreciated my friend. Hope to see you around. 👊
@jasonfikes9514
@jasonfikes9514 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely enjoy it when the smart people are annoyed.🤣✌😁
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
As do I Jason! Nothing better than getting comments from the annoyed smart people though. Very fulfilling!
@Colin56ish
@Colin56ish Жыл бұрын
Yes your mostly correct. Engineering standards generally ask for no more and no less than 3 threads protruding after the assembly. So if you need to trim, use that as a guide!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve heard “no more than 3 threads” aside from aesthetics. What’s the reason for avoiding, say, 8 threads?
@11metalfan
@11metalfan Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab wasted material. Think about the extra 0.0005 cents that could cost per year!
@racheat
@racheat Жыл бұрын
​@@GarageFab hey Toyota owner and mech engineer here...love this post and will follow you. I'm about to do RR bushings on an 05 Highlander....so I went down this protrusion rabbit hole and unless there's a chance equipment or people will get damaged, extra protrusion is no risk...seems there is an aspect of using #threads to do a verification of bolt stretch if the design needs it....other than that, have one thread if you wish. ...so long as you have full nut engagement when the assembly starts seeing load during tightening. Cheers from rusty upstate NY!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
That’s good info! Happy to have you my friend.
@garygerard4290
@garygerard4290 6 ай бұрын
I learn a lot watching your videos. Your editing dept. gets an A+ thank you
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 6 ай бұрын
Haha! I’ll let him know. Thank you Gary! Happy to be of service.
@bretfuzz925
@bretfuzz925 Жыл бұрын
Excellent educational vid. After seeing your video I immediately can see what is wrong with the installation before your vid. Great job!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thank you Bret. 🙏
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere Жыл бұрын
Some stock rubber bushings are fused to both sleeves and you can expect a short service life followed by a rear steering wobbling nightmare unless you make a provision for the bushing to pivot. A bronze sleeve between the bolt and slightly opened inner sleeve is a great mod when feasible. Early polyurethane bushings had a tendency on rare occasions to squeak but only while driving unless you ignored their instructions for no lubricant.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
The bronze sleeve is a fascinating idea. Rubber bushings are great for absorbing road vibration but absolutely terrible on high travel bagged vehicles. I’m all about polyurethane but gotta admit your suggestion sounds interesting. Hire do you tighten the through bolt and keep it tight? 🤔
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab I make the innermost bushing proud and on the second one onwards turned an o-ring groove on both ends of the bushing plus a clearance groove in the sleeve that allowed grease to completely fill the pivot and move any wear fragments over the o-ring. The improvement in lubrication with impregnated bronze as the bushing material and 0.020" of added clearance in the central part of the sleeve was enough to extend the service life to where it no longer needed to be replaced just greased with oil changes. This was on a 97 Pathfinder after wearing out the factory bushings plus an updated version and 2 polyurethane sets. It became a challenge.
@drew79s
@drew79s Жыл бұрын
Best not to use polyurethane where you can avoid it, as it tends to transmit a lot more of the high frequency stuff, especially because sizing is usually not done well (ie; the intaller doesn't know what the forces are or the range of compliance needed). This is especially true of engine mounts, where lack of compliance can kill alternators etc. Compliance problems are usually worst around 4 bar linkages, with triangulated 4 bars needing lots of compliance to work... Normally it's better to go for parallel 4 bars plus a watts link, it gives better control, less compliance interference with suspension behaviours etc and is simpler to calculate loads. Similarly, the type of bushing you're demonstrating here has very little lateral bearing capacity, it only bears on the edges of the steel tubes, so lateral loads are a big no no and should be oriented purpendicular to the link tube (unlike the triangulated 4 bar demonstrated). Finally, bolted joints are considered to be failed when they slip, so the end of thread is (or should be) totally irrelevant, if it fails it's because it's slipped and failed under impact loads, resultant from the post failure movement. Size bolts so you've got at least one fully formed thread on the unloaded side of the bolted joint, but no other aspect is critical unless you're engaging onto the unformed threads of the shank, which WILL result in premature failure. The only parts involved in the joint behaviour should be the inner tube, clamped between the two flanges and the bolt it's self. The friction between the outer flanges and the tube are the only forces through which the joint should operate.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
That was an insane amount of fascinating information. My biggest 😳 moment was alternator failure from poly engine mounts. What’s happening to cause that?! Thank you for taking the time to right all that. You are appreciated, Drew.
@drew79s
@drew79s Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab thanks, I appreciate it. Poly engine mounts or rigid engine mounts can cause alternator failure because they don't absorb high frequency vibrations in the same way that traditional engine mounts do. You can get electronic or winding failure as a result of the increased fatigue loads. GM makes some awesome hydraulic engine mounts that are studded on both ends and are basically awesome as a universal mount (LS/LT mounts). And happy to help btw
@Jack-dm8lj
@Jack-dm8lj Жыл бұрын
Good info. I installed a triangulated 4 link on my truck. When I supported the truck with jack stands on the frame unloading the suspension, I could move the rear end side to side with my hands on the tires. The bushings were loose between the flanges after tightening to recommend torque. How should I correct this issue?
@drew79s
@drew79s Жыл бұрын
@@Jack-dm8lj are you fabbing the setup yourself? And are you particularly wedded to the idea of a triangulated 4 link? What do you want to use it for and how much travel do you want?
@Jack-dm8lj
@Jack-dm8lj Жыл бұрын
@@drew79s I purchased a kit from speedway. It is installed on a 1952 chevy pu. The brackets were cnc welded and made ready to attach to the frame and rear end housing. I removed the end links and shaved about a 16 of an inch off the inner sleeves. They tightened up nicely. Did I screw up? lol
@shifttradition
@shifttradition 11 ай бұрын
I keep coming back to this video. It's super helpful. I'm thinking of making a swing arm tire carrier that bolts to the back wall of my trailer in 2 places and was debating going this route instead of a spindle on the bumper. I like this idea of using these bushings as a hinge instead but not sure if it would be too tight or hard to move. Obviously it would be stiffer than a spindle but maybe a gas strut would help with that.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
Yes! They are indeed stiffer, but not difficult at all. As soon as you add some leverage (like a tire carrier), they’re fairly easy to maneuver. Their stiffness might even be a benefit as the tire carrier wouldn’t swing back by itself. It should stay wherever you leave it. Another option that I’ve been using lately has been machined shoulder bolts and bronze flange bushings (Oilite bushings) in DOM tubing. They resemble polyurethane bushings but way smaller, don’t allow any flex, (great for door hinges) and the stay lubed. Thank you for your return! 😆
@knowledgeseeker3188
@knowledgeseeker3188 Жыл бұрын
Great simple terms to convey an understanding of this. One short video and you got yourself another subscriber.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel my friend! Thank you! See you in the next. (Love your KZfaq name by the way.)
@dfgivens
@dfgivens Жыл бұрын
Great information! I'm making lower shock mounts that can twist for an old Dodge truck. Essentially, you just confirmed my design. Thanks!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Twist! That sounds interesting!
@ajwilson313
@ajwilson313 9 ай бұрын
Full of good info. Just found your channel yesterday and instantly subbed. Keep it up!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Happy to have you Adam. See you in the next. 👊
@martymcmannis6581
@martymcmannis6581 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this information I have a old 85 cavalier with a rusted up subframe. A arm is alright. But had a buddy do some welding on it. I think I should take it back off and redo it. Thanks again
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure Marty. Lemme know how things go!
@tptrsn
@tptrsn 11 ай бұрын
Another of the most useful videos I've ever seen, and the other one was your u-joint video. AMAZINGLY GOOD content!!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend! That means a lot to me. 🙏 ❤️
@joell439
@joell439 Жыл бұрын
Man, this episode was a tight and a joy to watch and learn. Thanks for all the details 👍👍😎👍👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joel. 🙏 That means a lot! It’s my pleasure.
@matthewmclachlan5794
@matthewmclachlan5794 Жыл бұрын
Thank you once again Aaron. Well explained. Best channel I follow by far.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Matthew! That is a great honor. 🙏
@johnpike9612
@johnpike9612 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! This is exactly what i needed to find tonight as im trying to fix a super duty traction bar that isnt available from the manufacturer anymore and the aftermarket isnt built correctly... 👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 10 ай бұрын
Nice! Lemme know how it goes. I’m here if you need further guidance. 👍
@62Cristoforo
@62Cristoforo Жыл бұрын
Excellent description and detail. I’ve never even worked on a cars suspension, and I liked this.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you for the kind words my friend.
@Oscar-lo4fh
@Oscar-lo4fh 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your information and explanation, thanks for this video help a lot was braking my head on where to purchase this for my hardbody on bags
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure Oscar! Lemme know if you like the products you get. I haven’t been able to find better. I’ll likely continue to get my stuff there until I can acquire the tooling to make my own.
@davidc199dc
@davidc199dc Жыл бұрын
Fun and informative video. I have picked up so much knowledge of of you channel highly recommend and love how you don't drown on and make thing fun. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next one. Ps I love how it when you say the sizes you use on your materials as it hard for me to picture with out this.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you David, that means a lot to me. I personally can’t learn anything unless it’s fun and interesting. 🤷‍♂️
@Waikatotek
@Waikatotek Жыл бұрын
This kind of teaching is super valuable. Awesome work.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend! Glad you enjoyed. 🙌
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 Жыл бұрын
Good Stuff! I watched it twice to make sure I got it. Thanks for sharing your expertise MC! Cheers from Motown.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Robert! Thank you. 🙏
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 8 ай бұрын
I'm not expecting to be fabricating suspension components any time soon but this is just excellent automotive general knowledge regardless, along with a tonne more posted by experienced and knowledgeable folks in the comments. Great stuff, instant sub!
@Tahu2323
@Tahu2323 Жыл бұрын
Working on this kinda stuff I always wondered about these questions. Thanks for making a video answering them! Professional help is hard to find on the internet haha
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
I’m no professional. I do have a KZfaq channel though so I must be trustworthy! It’s my pleasure my friend. Thank you for watching. 🙏
@Pendaws
@Pendaws Жыл бұрын
FINALLY, a person who KNOWS how to measure a BOLT. Fat too many mechanics tend to think the HEAD size is the size of the bolt and they usually get all bent out of shape when they ask for a 1/2" bolt when they are really after a 5/16" one.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Haha! I’m guilty of that at work. Interesting how my fab life and wrenching life don’t agree. While working on Toyotas with metric fasteners, if say I need a 14mm bolt, I’m NOT talking about the threads. 😂
@kenschopshop
@kenschopshop Жыл бұрын
this is a vid every mini trucker needs to watch and some need to watch twice hahah . good work sir !
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes Sir! I made it just so I could watch it whenever I started a new build. 😂 Thank you, Ken!
@andrebartels1690
@andrebartels1690 Жыл бұрын
All necessary information in a short video. Great stuff 👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, André! 🙏
@garypease7414
@garypease7414 4 күн бұрын
Good to know. I've been working on/building vehicles for forty plus years and no one bothered to tell me this. Thanks.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 4 күн бұрын
My pleasure, Gary! I’m also still learning stuff daily.
@davidcase5545
@davidcase5545 11 ай бұрын
I am constantly trying to learn. I may never use this but, excellent information and video!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
There’s no better way to live life my friend; A state of constant growth. Thank you David.
@ohar7237
@ohar7237 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for pre-empting my "But of course I grease the bolts, because I want to be able to get them back out again some day" comment. :D You're the bomb, dude. :D
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 10 ай бұрын
Haha! Oh the joys of living in the desert.
@ohar7237
@ohar7237 10 ай бұрын
@@GarageFab I mean... better the desert than somewhere that rust happens, but yeah, I've definitely had rubber bushings weld themselves to bolts shafts, even living in the 'Burque.
@trod3693
@trod3693 Жыл бұрын
Just found this video randomly, I automatically subscribed after watching.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Happy you found us! See you in the next 👊
@joefuria4344
@joefuria4344 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your veteran experience. That was some great info 😎👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Joe!
@316ll
@316ll Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video as always. Very good information and easy to understand. Thank you.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure my friend. Thank you!
@amlreyesjr
@amlreyesjr Жыл бұрын
I came across this via the algorithim and just wow I learned so much in so little time. Now I feel like taking a second look at my suspension. I appreciate you making this video! Can you make another on asking your boss for another 1 month break? lol
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend! Happy to help. Yes! I’ll start immediately on the video, “How to Write a Two-Week Notice” 🙌
@jeffreystorer4966
@jeffreystorer4966 Жыл бұрын
Good on you thanks , working with suspension specialist yrs ago ,he would soak bolts in diesal before installing,and every one had hole after nut for split pin ,a fair amount of the work end up on race track ,when I asked about pins he said,it's the 2 dollar piece of mind factor
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
I would never disagree with peace of mind! Going the extra mile rarely causes problems. Thank you, Jeffrey!
@angelbernes740
@angelbernes740 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. for explaining every detail . I like the way those tab's can be maid.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Angel. Thank you!
@michalklimczak
@michalklimczak Жыл бұрын
It may sound inappropriate for some but… you’re like a god for me when it comes to this area of expertise. Amen! …and thank you, yet again!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Haha! I think that implies that I am a guru of sorts. I’m definitely not that. I only have a firm grasp on the basics, and a willingness to share the little bit that I know. There are people that know far more than I do, just finding ones that teach can be a challenge. Regardless, thank you Michał! So very happy to have you.
@jameschupp2230
@jameschupp2230 Жыл бұрын
Wow, dude that was awesomely put together well. Great Info!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, James! 🙏
@bryancondrey6457
@bryancondrey6457 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, simple, concise information. Thanks!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian! 🙏 I’m happy you enjoyed.
@meganmilesreidmeganmilesre7372
@meganmilesreidmeganmilesre7372 Жыл бұрын
Hey ManKandy, You are the Man!! This is Exactly what I was looking for!! All the details to choose the right bushing, where to get it and how to make sure it’s installed correctly. I assume the tabs are 3/16 thick for a 50’s large car 4 link? Super Thanks 🙏 for all your videos, unbelievably helpful and so appreciated!!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Tab specifics might be a future video. I do in fact to use 3/16 inch plate, and if the tabs are more than 3 inches tall, I’ll connect the tabs with a backing plate. And if there will be sideways or diagonal forces like on a Triangulated 4 link, I’ll gusset the sides of the tabs. Hope that makes sense without visual aid. Thanks again brother!
@meganmilesreidmeganmilesre7372
@meganmilesreidmeganmilesre7372 Жыл бұрын
Perfect, Thanks 👍👍🙏🙏
@mitsos306ify
@mitsos306ify Жыл бұрын
This was a great video! As for greasing the bolts, you are on the spot, makes no difference in operation but I always choose to grease the bolts when I assemble for corrosion protection. When it goes to engine mounts etc, especially in bikes , no seized bolts!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
We’re spoiled here in the desert. If we see rust, we know that car came here from somewhere else. You can call it lazy, but we’re a nearly grease free society.
@mitsos306ify
@mitsos306ify Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab you are very lucky! Here, and I mainly speak for ATVs, if you don't grease especially the rear arm axle bolts, you are going to have a very hard time when you will have to remove!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
I believe it! 😆
@juanignaciocaino
@juanignaciocaino Жыл бұрын
Good information, great non patronizing way of laying it. Earned one sub. Thanks!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Juan. Thrilled to have you my man! 🙌
@jamesstuart3238
@jamesstuart3238 3 ай бұрын
Great video, very direct and to the point. Lots of knowledge here 👍🏻
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, James! Happy to be of service.
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 Жыл бұрын
Great attitude and great advice. I like your comment responses too. Well done sir.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, James! I’m pleased you noticed. Comments are one of the most important things to me. Cheers!
@phmiii
@phmiii Жыл бұрын
Excellent Advice! Keep up the wonderful work!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Phillip!
@BenjaminHansen
@BenjaminHansen Жыл бұрын
First vid i have ever seen of you and your channel. I subscribed!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Benjamin! Thrilled to have you my friend. See you in the next one!
@titohernandez9769
@titohernandez9769 Жыл бұрын
This guy is the man. Wow. Earned a subscriber
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tito! Thrilled to have my man.
@CraftwerksMC
@CraftwerksMC Жыл бұрын
This was some education information. I'm about to start working on a set of tubular link arms and control arms for a project ttruck and although it seems like simple concepts I definitely learned a little so I appreciate it!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! Happy to be of service, Robert. I’d love to see what you create. This video was in preparation for my own control arms in the next couple of weeks.
@CraftwerksMC
@CraftwerksMC Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab I think the only thing I have not really wrapped my head around yet is how to create the sockets for ball joints. I'll definitely be paying attention on what you do and hope you can share some detail. I'm sure its just a matter of using tubing and machining to fit but going to have to do some research on what the interference specs should be for the bottom units.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Please explain more, Robert! I’m unsure if you’re describing manufacturing the ball joint itself. My control arms are custom made to fit a specific vehicle but the bushing ends and the ball joints are pre-fabricated purchased parts that are then welded in place. All the super confusing technical stuff is left to the joint manufacturer.
@CraftwerksMC
@CraftwerksMC Жыл бұрын
@@GarageFab When I typed my response I was just getting off a plane so wasn't in the design mindset, lol. I just meant the cup/mount itself the BJ's press into on the stock bottom control arms. I'm sure it will just be tubing of sufficient thickness and using the lathe to get the inside diameter right so they still press in. I'll just borrow from some of the lowering suspension setups and add length to account for keeping the WMS in the right plane compared to stock height, camber and caster during the wheel travel. My ultimate goal is a pre-runner style with coilover and long travel, about 4 inches. I'm not racing or going offroad but if I do decide to get crazy I want it strong enough to survive since as a 2wd C10 you sometimes have to compensate with speed instead of 4wd traction.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! That sounds like fun. There’s nothing like piece of mind. There’s also nothing like fear. Wondering if a wheel is going to fling off at any moment. Definitely make it strong. The aftermarket ball joints I’ve purchased have the outer weld-on sleeve included. The ball joint fits in and is held in by a snap ring. I’ve occasionally had to fight to press the ball joint in, probably from shrinkage of the outer sleeve during welding.
@markbrynteson5141
@markbrynteson5141 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for schooling me on this subject
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Happy to be of service, Mark.
@nicksedler3848
@nicksedler3848 Жыл бұрын
Your 100% correct!! I've done this enough to know your spot on!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
🙌 ❤️
@heathhylton4746
@heathhylton4746 Жыл бұрын
Great info! I’ve learned a lot since subscribing to Garage Fab!!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Excellent! It’s good to hear someone is benefiting from it. Thank you, Heath! 🙏
@68camaro18
@68camaro18 11 ай бұрын
Love the straight to the point info. Great work
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 11 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend! Also your KZfaq name is my dream car.
@canslono1084
@canslono1084 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your years of experience for free
@BrockGrimes
@BrockGrimes Жыл бұрын
Finally someone explains it. This topic has driven me crazy dealing with 4x4's, low riders, etc. It's always fooked.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Haha! Happy to help, Brock. Thanks for watching.
@jessicamartinez5652
@jessicamartinez5652 Жыл бұрын
Yup thats exactly how i been doing them i use grade 8 black bolt with crimp nuts like factory nuts notice the lock washer will spread every once an awhile this is a great video for guys doing at home this video can save lives cuz suspension failure is critical
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated, Jessica! Share with someone you think would benefit! Cheers.
@fernando-sl7qm
@fernando-sl7qm Жыл бұрын
This video is so expertly done I am jealous
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, Fernando! Thank you. 🙏 No need for jealousy. Just a couple lights and some editing practice is all it takes. Cheers!
@HC-oy3jr
@HC-oy3jr Жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Appreciate you sharing the knowledge! Good Man!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
It’s my pleasure. Thank you for watching my friend. 🙏
@nicholassmith2353
@nicholassmith2353 Жыл бұрын
As always, very important and useful information!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nicholas, happy to be of service! Good to see you again.
@MichaelRobinsonglass
@MichaelRobinsonglass 3 күн бұрын
Like the way you add the 'why' behind the what to do and not to do.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Michael! The holy why has long been the most important thing to me. It makes confusing topics far easier to grasp and easier to remember.
@RobS32
@RobS32 Жыл бұрын
Mint vid 👌. Clear~ Concise ~informative 👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob!
@davidthompson245
@davidthompson245 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge brother!.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, David!
@grahambrown7720
@grahambrown7720 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained, thanks
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Graham! Happy to be of service.
@scrawny002
@scrawny002 Жыл бұрын
Explained very well I’ve run into that myself I’ve been working on cars for 40 years and working on peoples mistakes
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend! 🙏
@johnmathews3027
@johnmathews3027 Жыл бұрын
Hiya Kiora, Great video, thanks for sharing
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you, John. 🤙
@bullthedemolisher
@bullthedemolisher Жыл бұрын
Love the video, learn something new today. Subscribed 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Yes! Happy to have you my friend!
@Engineerboy100
@Engineerboy100 7 ай бұрын
Great job on the video. I didn't know that you had to use a certain kind of grease on polyurethane. Thanks!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t either! 😳 😆 Thank you, Clint!
@broz1969
@broz1969 Жыл бұрын
Good info brother. Things to keep in mind for future projects. 👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Keith!
@cotybrown1226
@cotybrown1226 Жыл бұрын
Another nice quick hitter. Good info for all.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you Coty! 🙌
@davefuelling7955
@davefuelling7955 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I had to change the rear end in my Nissan Pathfinder because I was hit in the side right on the rear wheel and it bent the rear housing. When I tightened the bushings the nuts were self locking so I wasn't sure if the inner sleeve rotated around the bolt or not. I decided to go ahead and tighten the bolts since they were tight when I removed them. Now that I know that the bushing rotates around the inner sleeve I know I did it correctly.
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Here’s a little additional info that I neglected to include in the video Dave. I’m assuming your bushings were factory, and if so, they’re probably bonded rubber. These type of bushings are still fully tightened as mentioned, but they should not be tightened until the weight of the vehicle is on the suspension. If you tighten them with the wheels off the ground, the bushings will twist when you set the vehicle down, and this will cause your bushings to tear prematurely. If this is the case, I would simply recommend loosening the bolts without lifting the truck and then tighten them again. The inner bushing should spring back to its natural position.
@stevec5657
@stevec5657 Жыл бұрын
I just learned some more useable info, so thanks for the cool video. 👍
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Happy to be of service, Steve. Thank you!
@turbosubisandman7174
@turbosubisandman7174 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Threads will also wallow out the hole in the tab faster then the bolt shank. thanks!
@GarageFab
@GarageFab Жыл бұрын
Agreed! But if that happens I think it’s a sign the bolt wasn’t tight enough.
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