I don’t know about evil, but that Ather Foundation woman was beyond insane

If I remember correctly, part of B2W2 was that team plasma split into factions after the events of BW1. There was one faction that followed Ghetsis and another that followed the virtues of N. It’s a lot more story heavy but I find it incredibly interesting

Team Flare: • don't use Fire & Fairy pkmn • have a strange relationship with the Champion, which means nothing for the plot • have an E4 member in their ranks, which means nothing at all • have 2 types of Admins, which could have meant a larger structure with more steps, but none of it is used • have almost no encounters throughout the story • are stylish AF GF did them dirty

I think it is simple. A good team contrasts the themes of the region and game and actively works to uproot them. Gen 1 and 2: Pokémon are friends and companions Team Rocket: Pokémon are tools for power and money. Gen 3: Humanity and Pokémon should strive to work and live side by side in harmony with nature Team Aqua and Magma: destroy the balance of the eco system for their own gains. Gen 4: connections to the past help us navigate the present and form bonds to other people Team Galactic: the past and bonds are meaningless, we will wipe out everything and start anew. Gen 5: reality isn't always set in stone, different people have different views and hearing them out is important to live with one another. Team Plasma: hive-minded cult with everyone thinking the same. Gen 7: culture and tradition connects the people. It's important to honor them and nature Team Skull: We don't feel like we belong, so we resent your culture and traditions and we will do what we can to disrupt them.

The thing about Team Rocket is that they're essentially a mafia, unlike some of the teams after them they're implied to kill people. With that they're also implied to have a hold over their respective region, spreading crime, illegal goods, money, and power to their allies and punishment and death to their enemies. Considering it's a kids game though, they'd never show it on screen, but it's very clearly what they're based on and the fact they can essentially do what they want in the region with little subtlety implies they are either powerful or that the people in power are paid off.

The patheticness of team skull, with the aether foundation twist was actually pretty entertaining. I super wish they didn't do it a second time, and I'll be extremely disappointed if they do it again in gen 9.

I think it's unfair to judge the Aether foundation and especially Team Skull by the standards of more previous evil teams. Pokémon games are formulaic, yes, but that doesnt mean that every element of every game should be the same. Evil teams may be a staple of the franchise, but neither Alolan team is evil. Aether foundation is well meaning, but Lusamine's descent into madness due to her breaking family leads to threatening consequences. Team Skull is made up of disillusioned misfits who feel alienated by Alola's traditions and therefore band together to disrupt them, taking things too far. Neither team has any real plan for ultimate power or destruction like earlier teams do. They aren't evil. Yet they still greatly affect the Gen 7 games in positive ways, and I think if you thought them as lesser because they don't pose that much of a threat misses the point. Saying "evil teams" declined after Flare does such a disservice to the Gen 7's pretty compelling antagonists.

THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING MALVA!! I was JUST having a similar thought recently about how you technically “encounter” MALVA periodically throughout the campaign due to her being a newscaster, but how rad would it have been if you encountered her as an Admin, and she hinted at the fact that she would see you later at the Elite 4? I would have loved that

Team Flare really is like the rest of Gen 6: full of potential that somehow fell flat. Even mega-evolution feels somehow underutilized, especially when you compare it to ORAS. a smart move would have been to ditch the girl band in favour of Malva’s one-two punch. her elite 4 fight could double as her last attempt at revenge

I know this wasn’t the main topic of the video, but the Aether Foundation is one of my favorite teams mainly for Lusamine’s battle theme.

The sad thing is, Team Flare in the anime was done better than they were in the game as it wasn't Xernias or Yveltal whom they were after but it was Zygarde they were trying to exploit and Mega Evolution Energy was something they were studying and using to put their plans into motion. What makes them even better in the anime was they used the Pokemon League to gather the Mega Evolution energy needed. Heck the same can be said for all the evil teams following that where their anime counterparts were far better written. Team Skull for example in the anime don't even make the attempt to be the supposed bad guys of the series and Guzma is only seen in a bad light because of the way he raises his pokemon and the tactics he uses during Pokemon Battles even though they are the definition of a veteran making quick and calculated decisions. The difference between the evil teams in anime post Black and White was that the anime counterparts are better than the game counterparts which was the opposite of what they were Pre X and Y.

Team skull being less threatening was a nice change a pace for me. Sun and moon is about tradition and what makes Alola special and they stand in direct opposition to that. Plus they’re just really fun, I always enjoyed it when they were on screen and Guzma is one of my favorite characters in the series. They’re much less extreme than past teams but they still stand out even despite that

Team Skull is in my opinion a great example of not needing much to make something compling there Leader's abuise back round and failure to become a tral capitan not to mention how he and his team where taken advantage of be the Ather foundation and with them generally being a group of outcast who came together it really does make both delightfully campy and understandable antagonists

team yell is my least favorite cause theyre just a nuisance that doesnt do anything bad and theyre just glorified roadblocks really. they're like a retread of my favorite evil team, being skull, but like significantly worse in every way.

I came up with the theory that the disbanding of Team Rocket literally caused these more….unusual evil teams to surface. (Nature abhors a vacuum and all that) I won’t go into all of it here but it would explain why in Ruby team Magma was based in Lilycove city. (A now disused Team rocket base)

Can you really call it a “downfall” when both of the evil teams in the very next generation are the best evil teams of all time? Both Team Skull and the Aether Foundation - while not being as straight-up villainous as teams from later generations - are the most interesting and memorable imo. One is a foundation built on good will, corrupted by its founder’s descent into madness, the collapse of her family causing her to sink her deeper into her obsession with the Ultra Beasts. This obsession leading her to authorize the creation of a literal genetic abomination with the purpose to fight and capture these creatures. Her mania eventually leads her to literally fuse herself with one of these beasts, resulting in her almost getting herself killed. The other is a team whose only purpose is to go against the system. It’s founder ran away from his abusive father after pretty much losing everything he’d spent his childhood training for and becoming disillusioned with everything he’d once loved. He created a family of his own made up of others like him - misfits and runaways. Deep down inside, all any of them want is to feel respected by their peers. A far cry from “Crazy man wants to capture legendary Pokémon to rule the world/reshape the world in his image cuz reasons.”

I love the dichotomy of Team Skull and the Aether Foundation. I wish the relationship between the two teams had been explained a little bit more.

team flare wanted to use the ultimate weapon to destroy the ugly people with Yveltal, but with Xerneas the weapon had the objetive of beautifying everyone

to me, the evilest villain team was Cypher, from the Game cube games

I always have felt like XY had an amazing potential, but went completely wasted. The themes of the region are unity and beauty. You have a bunch of friends to travel with, but only Serena/Calem is somewhat decent. The rest of your friends barely do anything through the game. They could have made Shauna a "Friendship/Enjoyment checker" to help you increase those stats and unlock Aime features. Trevor could have been a strategic rival who gave you rewards with certain Pokemon caught (kinda like the professors in Kanto or those NPC who reward you with certain Dex entries) Tierno would have been an amazing move tutor and Super Training teacher with the dance moves, and teach you some roller skate tricks or battle poses. Team Flare did have better explained motives, although they were shown in different media rather than the mainline games. They were pretty much elitists who wanted to repopulate the world as their own pure perfect race. They could have made them need Mega Stones to activate the ultimate weapon back, and at least give every admin their own mega for Lysandre to "cheat" and have a tool that gave him 5 Mega Evolutions to make him extremely threatening. They could have also made only 2 female admins and Xerosic (and of course Lysandre) with more appearances to be more memorable. Also, someone mentioned how Malva having a more challenging Elite 4 encounter (at least on the first run) would have been amazing, and I totally agree. They also forgot to add many things from BW2 that would have been amazing. Easy/Challenge Mode, Medals system, and better Gym Leaders / Elite 4 rematches. Finally, they could have added features from ORAS as DLC for Southern Kalos (Contests, Secret Bases, new Mega Stones) with your friends helping you with them and the 2nd Zygarde story with more Flare encounters.

Honestly I don't care enough about evil teams to have a least favorite one, but Team Skull is definitely the best in my opinion. They are a lot of fun, and you can empathize with them. They're not trying to destroy the universe or anything, they're just a bunch of marginalized people sticking together in order to survive, and being rebellious while following a leader that is secretly as flawed and lost as they are. Guzma's still a big child seeking attention and respect from adults, and Lusamine took advantage of this. I feel for the guy, I know he has a good heart.

While I totally agree with your take on Flare, to call it a downfall for later generations is overkill. Team Skull was awesome because it gave us something new, which Pokemon struggles to do. And Ather was very interesting as well. Not every game needs a formulaic super evil team to fight. Team Yell was hilarious because of how stupid of a concept it was.

For Team Flare, Lysander did confront the player and rival about competing for the mega ring instead of sharing it and seeing how the ultimate weapon was formed during a war, I thought his motivation to destroy everyone because he believed no one deserved the beauty of the world because their fighting keeps destroying it

Team Skull is the best evil team in Pokémon I love how over the top they are and the Aether Foundation is probably 2nd and Team Plasma 3rd.

Team Flare is definitely my least favorite evil team in Pokémon, and although I do like Team Skull and Team Yell, they’re not really much of a threat. The Aether Foundation is fine, I guess, but it’s still not as good as the evil teams from generations 1-5 in my opinion, and the other evil team from Sword and Shield (I forgot the name of it, it’s been a while since I’ve played Sword and Shield), is rather forgettable. But yeah, the evil teams have definitely gone downhill after gen 5 in my opinion. Anyways, great video, Emperor Cubone!

Honestly, out of all the "evil teams" so far, Team Flare is the most forgettable team I've ever seen. With Team Yell coming a close second. The most interesting bit of Team Yell, was their connection to Marnie. But that's not saying much.

Team Skull is great imo. Yeah, it's not a threat, but that's that the other team is for. Splitting the goofy hooligan and serious villain types into 2 different teams works really well. You get a nice balance and both teams feel pretty consistent.

I legit didn't even know that Team Flare had an Elite Four member. I did a lot of A button mashing through that whole game, even my first playthrough.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything about Team Flare. IMO, X and Y had so much wasted potential and Team Flare was just the icing on the cake

I was absolutely enthralled by Lysandre, AZ, and the Ultimate Weapon, but Team Flare itself was quite forgettable. Kinda odd, really.

This made me realize I've played almost all the mainline games... Anyway, my favorite team is Skull because they're a bunch of abandoned children taken in by a big scary dude who only wants the best for them because his own family abandoned him for not being perfect as a child. Love my boy Guzma.

Team plasma was definitely my favorite. As a kid they were the most impactful being from my first Pokémon game and having such a good twist. I also loved how following the main game, the sequel directly continues the story and has the old team plasma battling the new one

I actually really liked team skull. I liked that their goals weren’t huge, or anything at all really. Just a bunch of people doin whatever they wanna do.

as a Lysandre Fan (and I guess Xerosic was cool as well). You seem to have missed a couple of points regarding team flare plot that at least make Lysandre better. The grunts, admins and 4 cyber chicks are still really bad, tho. So let me quickly go over this. First off, Lysandre's plan. "Making the world more beautiful" is indeed his main plan, but he doesn't mean actual beauty when talking about this. He, on multiple occasions, talks about how messed up the world is. People fighting wars, people stealing stuff, people hurting eachother. The root of this, in Lysandre's eyes, is effectively 2-fault. First off, overpopulation. More people = more items required. But the demand will keep growing, while the production will have a limit. This means there will be less items than required for every human alive, which will result in people having to fight or steal to get what they need. The second reason, is human ego. Many humans focus purely on themselfs and take whatever they want for their own good (effectively, Lysandre would hate team rocket). Humans are often unable to share or give. They will only do what they want and they have no regard for others. It's this darkness, evil and egocentric nature that, in Lysandre's eyes, makes the world ugly. The conflict, hatred, egotistical nature and fighting is what he is against. So his solution: find people he deems worthy and not-ruined, take thim in for safety and remove everyone he sees as a cause of the ugliness in the world. This, at minimum, will remove the overpopulation, and assuming he picks the correct people, will also cure the conflict, hatred etc. He's effectively embodying "when faced with a choice between 2 evils, there are no winners". Secondly; mega evolution. One part of this, is Lysandre having a mega on his team. To be able to mega-evolve, a strong bond between trainer and pokemon is needed. So him having a mega exists to show that he doés truly care and his pokemon are truly on his side. But besides that, it also relates to their plot. As Lysandre states in 1 conversation: you had to fight for that mega ring you own. Mega rings are in high demand, but are extremely rare. It's the perfect example of what Lysandre believes to be the cause of this ugliness he sees. It created a conflict/fight. After this fight, only 1 of you got the ring. The person that lost, as a result of this, ended up being sad. Also a quick note is that it is highly hinted at that Lysandre is related to AZ. So there is that connection, I guess. Also, Lysandre is the driving force behind Kalos's succes as a region. He tried to make the world beautiful by offering the products on high demand and generally being a good human. Yet he noticed that this was impossible to achieve in the current world. Basically what I am trying to say is; Lysandre is a great villain. The game just does a poor job at portraying it. But that's at fault of the game, not him, as all the elements ARE in the game. That being said... the grunts are clearly not aware of Lysandre's true intentions, the admins are basically glorified grunts with 0 identity and the 4 cyber chicks are bad admins at best (as I only vaguely remember Mable, the one at the Abomasnow cave. Aliana, Bryony and Celosia are not memorable at all). Great leader, absolutely atrocious rest of the team (barring Xerosic, as he was made memorable by his personality and the Looker missions)

I think Lusamine was intrigued about the ultra beast/wormholes at least in sun and moon, because she lost her husband to one. In the ultra games, realizing how dangerously potent the ultra beast are, she wanted to stop Necrozma from traveling to Alola

Despite the many problems with Macro Cosmos and Chairman Rose as antagonists, I adore the Chairman's boss fight. Setting foot down in the bowels of the power plant feels like walking into a final fantasy boss arena, it's great. The setting was good, the music was bomb, and his body language during the fight told us a whole lot more about him than the rest of his story appearances put together.

I’ve heard the argument that they didn’t have enough fire types that seemed evil, but I counter that with “This was a new gen, why didn’t they just MAKE EVIL LOOKING FIRE TYPE POKÉMON?!”

If I read the games subtext correctly, the power of the legendaries IS the ultimate weapon. Or more like the power source of those. That's why they had the legendary already and why it was plugged into the Ultimate Weapon in the first place.

I will forever defend Team Skull and that’s because they’re freaking hilarious, they’re not meant to be taken seriously, that’s the point, they’re the first evil team to be almost entirely for comedic purposes and I love them for that. Imo Team Skull is the closest we’ve gotten to Jessie, James and Meowth in the games. As for my least favourite, probably Team Galactic, like, unlike Rocket, Magma/Aqua and Plasma, Team Galactic are just not intimidating even when they’re meant to be, I cannot take those designs seriously, heck, at least Team Flare has fun designs. I also consistently forget they exist and confuse them for Team Plasma all the time, overall they’re just very meh in everything

I didn’t even remember that team flare had an elite 4 member on their side THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE

I think the issue is that they seem to want to make a Pokémon story that isn’t centered around an evil team, but aren’t willing to just make that leap. The team’s involvement in the actual plot has been going down pretty linearly, which in this video was the main factor for them being “worse”. I don’t think Team Rocket is better than Team Skull/The Aether Foundation because you have to battle through a bunch of Rocket Grunts, in fact I personally like that a lot less, but gen 1 and 2’s stories, gen 1 especially, had the team as a central focus. Gen 7, on the other hand, is about adventuring with your friends, taking on the island challenge, meeting new people, fighting Ultra Beasts, etc etc. Like those things ended up tying a little to The Aether Foundation at the end, but for the most part the game wouldn’t be worse if the plot were rewritten without them. Note my use of gen 7 as an example though, gen 8 failed to realize that the fake team is actually supposed to be funny and likable, and that the real one is meant to be formidable and at least _connected_ in some way to the overarching plot haha

11:09 Ah yes my favorite Pokemon evil team. Team Koopa

I actually think the liberation effort aligns with the elite 4 castle take over thing. Think about it. The Pokemon League is the final trial for every Pokemon trainer that engages in battles. It's the reason we as the player travel from town to town battling gym leaders and random trainers. It's to get strong enough to take them down. You're constantly being told you have the makings to challenge the League and become the champion of that region. In alot of ways the elite four represent the main pillar of the Pokemon battles, which they are against. So by conquering that you're creating an intimidation factor by showing that your organization is above it all by defeating the very best the corrupt system has to offer. It's a power move. It also would help in convincing people to free their Pokemon when they know that you're part of the organisation that took down the strongest trainers in the region. Team Plasma has also been shown to use fear and criminal means to get what they want, so I don't think it's a stretch for the grunts to be on board with the whole castle elite four take over thing. From the grunts POV it's just a matter of convincing yourself of the grander picture.

5:25 To be fair, if you're a grunt all you do is follow orders and it seems N didn't have enough pull to keep them in line regardless.

The last two evil teams were more like punks than actually being evil. We definitely need a more destructive team for SV.

Lysander was a Bond Villain who basically was out to do the plot of Moonraker, resetting the world with only the best, brightest, rich, and "beautiful" in inheriting the world cleansed of the unworthy who tarnish it with their "ugliness".

Idea for an evil team(and story for a pokemon game in general): The evil team is mafia who instead of trying to go for word domination/destruction/some other kind of sociopolitical reform they do anything in their power to silence people from talking to court and they are also smuggling masterballs in the black market. Most if not all of them are not interested in the game's legendery(which in my oppinion should be justice themed legendery). It would be cool if the leader of the evil team was revealed in a plot-twist(I know that twist villains are not that great but with this context this twist would work). If anyone at gamefreak is reading this comment fell free to copy-paste the plot,no need to credit me.

My thing with flair and XY as a whole is that it needed Z. There was a ton of potential in those games and power construct Zygarde showed greater things ahead, but we never got that enhanced version. Maybe the work load of converting everything to 3D was too much to put extra effort in a third game, maybe they put all of their stock into ORAS(which are fantastic games) and felt they didn’t have time to work on a third and instead started on Gen 7. I just feel XY had a lot left to be explored and expanded upon and we never got to see that realized. Maybe one day Kalos will be remade and we’ll see a proper Pokémon Z, but until then, we just have to wonder what might have been.

I feel like Aether Foundation is underrated. For starters, unlike every other evil team, the Pokémon they use are diverse and varied, fitting their role as Pokémon conservationists.

Chairman Rose was so unbelievably unreasonable Honestly it would have been better If he just wanted to control eternatus because of the infinite energy It can create Instead of getting so upset that Leon wanted to wait a single extra day to help him deal with an energy crisis a 1000 years in the future he made the apocalypse happen immediayely so people would have to deal with it immediately Cyrus may have been a madman but at least I believed That he as a character would do what he was doing because of his nihilism Chairman Rose was even more insane but with non conviction He asks for the player's and Leon's help immediately like he didn't know what he was doing would cause the apocalypse even though that was his goal

i dont necessarily need them to be evil, i need them to be antagonists. everything after that falls on how well they're written imo

Lol, the Bowser logo at the end Also my fav evil team is Plasma, both cause I'm bias toward Gen 5, and because N, Ghetsis and Colress are incredible character Grunts might be clods and kinda hypocrites with the free Pokémon cause, but that's kinda like people who repeat a mantra just for the sake of it, then their actions don't follow their speach because of how blind they are to see the true of their ideals (reference completely intended)

It’s largely because pure evil is out dated and complex, layered, “they went about it wrong but they had a point” is in. Which is fine, except that’s a little tricky to pull off when you’re watering it down and packaging it up to market towards kids. We still present kids with a “black and white” view of the world so complex villains who are more misguided or crazy rather than pure evil conflicts with that, so they’re walking this tightrope between the two and they’re a little clumsy with it.

What about Cipher's Shadow Pokémon Plot? I know it's "not a core series plot", but, I think it's still important. I think Cipher is a secret branch of the Team Plasma in BW, but, when the plan fell through, they separated 1 year prior to B2W2. Heck, Greevil got his hands on a Lugia and CORRUPTED IT! The President of the Battle Company in B2W2 also wants to "create a machine that allows people and Pokémon to communicate", which is EXACTLY the same kind of invention Dr. Kaminko tried to make, but, it did the reverse and caused Pokémon to go completely mute. In one case, it even causes Senilor to go completely mute because Wobbuffet won't speak anymore! Well, Senilor refuses to talk if Wobbuffet can't yell out "Woooooobbuffet!" anymore. It has nothing to do with Cipher/ Snagem, but, also apparently, Snagem were a branch of Cipher in Colosseum. They were LITERALLY GOING TO WEAPONIZE POKEMON! In fact, who's to say ALL evil teams aren't branches of Cipher? Well, except Skull, Macro Cosmos and Yell. Also, you forgot Team Skull from Generation 4! Yeah, they aren't even from the core UNIVERSE, but, there was a missed opportunity to mention Skuntank, Koffing and Zubat or have them in the Alola games!

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Absolutely killed it with this video :D

I love how this just turned into a Team Flare rant piece.

Team Galactic despite being my favorite fell in Pokemon Platinum when Cyrus got banished in the Distortion World but doing a fanfic on this basically I can see Saturn continue Team Galactic having his own goals in mind to take over Sinnoh. The suits would get cooler looking Sci Fi suits,start using sci fi looking Pokemon like Magnemite and Beeheeyem,and be more in the vain of Neo Team Plasma.

What about Team Ciper? Also Temtem tried to make a evil. But they fail because all we got was a professor who decided a new type is superior and decided he wanted to crown himself king. I know it’s confusing but it’s true. They did have a neat concept for a villain about someone who wanted to build a Mon army but then the higher ups saw Pokémon Brick Bronze and decided that what make the evil team good was the twist.

Call Gen 1 overrated all you want, but Team Rocket will forever remain the best evil team. Their goals and methods are grand enough to be a genuine roadblock but grounded enough for the type of game Pokémon is.

I think each of the "evil" teams had their good and bad points. Team flair was funny because of how ridiculous they were.

I think what makes a good evil team are a few factors: a) Their reasoning should be at least somewhat defined and sensible to those who follow it b) There should be rivarly or other form of bond between the protagonist and the antagonist c) Memorable chracters besides just the leader My personal favorites are Teams Galactic and Team Skull

You forgot Team Sky! How dare you!

As someone who's first pokemon game they played was x and y i can tell you for a fact that i dont even remember a single thing about team flare.

Potential hot take, I actually really liked Team Skull. They're funny, relatively grounded and not too over the top, they took over a whole town and no-one successfully took it back- even you can't drive them out. Plus they're super memorable, Guzma especially

I miss the Orre Games; Colosseum and Gale of Darkness

Fun question where would cipher from Pokémon colosseum and gale of darkness fit

My favorite is team plasma. I remember a video where it’s discussing them as the ultimate antagonist to the entire premise of Pokémon. A counter to the idea Atleast in N’s existence. You could tell some of the members didn’t truly believe in the cause but were just playing along knowing that one day very soon they would be the foot soldiers of a new empire over the region. The leader’s lie and his desperation to win makes him feel like the goal is something he’s wanted his entire life and that protecting or liberating pokemon never mattered to him gives the story that pokemons tried to present countless times that your relationship with your pokemon is important and that you have to respect pokemon- Atleast with the fight against N. Who does believe in the philosophy that he was lied to about.

5:22 recently played platinum and the galaxy grunts were also definately not in on the cause. Most of them saying things like "i dont know what the plan is"

I have an idea for a quick rewrite of team Flare: maybe their plan isn’t to destroy the entire world, but to rid the world of what they deem to be imperfections. The flare aesthetic could represent death (burning down the flawed in the world) and life (the beauty that rises from the ashes) which ties them to the Legendaries. Maybe mega evolution could even play a part in their path to a perfect idealized world. Different team members could have slightly different ideas of what an ideal world would be too.

You make me want to live in a world where team flare all use pokemon like Furfrue wearing different styles of clothing.

I did not even know what team flair was till this video. All the others I've heard of at some point.

This might be one of my hotter Pokemon takes, but I legitimately think Team Yell were one of the best antagonistic teams in Pokemon, and I hate that Macro Cosmos undercut them with the same twist that was employed with Team Skull and the Aether Foundation. The fundamental problem with the evil teams is that the critiques they offer of the Pokemon world's utopia are never allowed to amount to anything because the utopia can never be challenged; all opposition to the status quo either has to be misguided or disingenuous in nature. Team Yell aren't even really an evil team, just an antagonistic one. Their opposition to the player makes perfect narrative and mechanic context: they support a different person winning the Galar League and are engaging in hooliganism to prevent other contenders in that League. This roots them back into what is meant to be a core narrative justification for the player, and once the player has beaten Marnie they have mechanical context for why Team Yell opposes them - they are clearly stronger than her. The only antagonistic team that comes close to making any sort of sense is Team Rocket, because they also don't present any serious critique of the utopia that falls flat; they are plainly and openly self interested and are not shy about it.

The real question is are the Spanish Inquisition going to be the evil team in Gen 9.

I should have known this was just a poorly disguised PSA against Team Flare. I approve

Alternate title: Emperor Cubone going on a rant about the forgettable Team Flare for almost the whole video

The one thing I hate about every evil team is they all use the same pokémon, even though each come from different regions and goals, and most likely have different taste as well.

Rocket acts like a mafia. But aqua, magma, Plasma, flare and aether act more like a terrorist organisation. But flare did fall flat, aqua and magma didn't make it to complete their ambitions (would be a good plot twist if it worked but it's a kids game), plasma split in two in B2W2 after BW that became somewhat disappointing because it would be nice to come across the half that follow N's ideals as an evil team as well as the Ghetsis side of the team. Aether was a good team but for me it got confusing after the ultra beasts were introduced. But the best team in my opinion is Plasma, but flare will be a favourite of mine.

This video really did just devolve into a unhinged team flare rant

For team flare maybe make the team more alive like you could have someone that is looks nice but is super strong, maybe change their goal to world domination, have the elite 4 member try to stop them, make them look nice at the begging that way nobody will believe that’s the evil team, and make them the first team to succeed and take over the world that way there is more on the line

I haven't seen a lot of your videos but prior to this one I hadn't found one I disliked. This one was a major disappointment with your inability to identify the motivations of the teams. It was especially bad with Team Flare who were very up front with their intent to kill everyone that wasn't Team Flare yet you reduced it to "beauty or something."

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flare is fire that destroys everything around it and at the same time it is fascinating

about team skull I took it as they worked for the big bad, since their general is someone you have to fight pass to get to the leader of the evil organization

Malva was part of team Flare???? I literally played trough X and Y like 5-10 times but I never even thought about that being a possibility, same with the news woman being the same. I didn't watch the anime, but important plot point like that shouldn't be exclusive to the anime imo.

I like the idea that you find out a powerful organization like Macro Cosmos is in fact an evil team and that Team Yell isn't an evil team at all. There is a difference between people who antagonize you personally (like Team Yell) and people who are evil in general (like Macro Cosmos). I also like how you couldn't tell from the beginning which is which. Team Yell are music fans who love their local heroes Piers and his sister Marnie. They hope to further Marnie's career as a pokemon trainer by obstructing you. In actuality, most other trainers in the game are also trying to block you from becoming champion as well. The other trainers are just more polite and not wearing matching outfits. Macro Cosmos is simply a more successful version of Team Rocket. They've already taken over. According to the game, Rose designed and developed the city of Wyndon itself. "Developed" implies political power of some kind. Rose's concern about the long term demand for electricity also matches up with the concerns of a political authority figure. Even if he isn't the Mayor of Wyndon, he is at least a very influential promoter and marketer of Wyndon. You stop Chairman Rose's crazy scheme, but have you actually done anything about Rose's organization? Leon takes over Chairman Rose's duties as Chairman of the Pokemon League, but this is a role the Chairman appears to have been grooming Leon for already. The chairman role is separate from the role of president of Macro Cosmos and any political power he might have as the "developer" of Wyndon. When Rose said he'd turn himself over to the authorities, did he actually mean that he was going to go over to city hall to sit at his desk there? He offered up that solution too quickly for that not to be the case. As the "proper authority" he chose to turn himself into, I'm sure he'd tell his receptionist not to let you, Hop, Piers, or Leon into his office.

That intro caught me off guard. I was just playing dq5 on my phone.

What’s fun is that X was my first pokemon game and I didn’t even remember them having a villain team

Oh no, you missed a lot about Team Flare. They were trying to commit genocide and are likely based on Nazis. Region is based on France, which was hit hard by Germany in WWII. Pokeballs contain infinity energy, so it actually kinda makes sense that they were researching them since infinity energy is what powers the ultimate weapon. Lysander is related to AZ, so him learning about the ultimate weapon and legendaries makes sense. The message of that conflict is pretty deep (cycle of violence repeats; we must remember history so we don’t repeat past mistakes). I feel like a lot of people missed this, though, so maybe they weren’t written very well.

hot take evil teams arent needed just give us like a few, very well written antagonistic characters and honestly, if that were the case i wouldnt mind battling them more than just one big heist of an HQ

Team Star in the newest games seems to be the silliest. But I did enjoy the “mini game “ of running through their respective camps with three of your Pokémon out in the open. I wish we could replay each of those battles in the post game.

Team Flare is definitely my least favorite but I'd say my favorite is Team Skull. Guzma is one of my top favorite Pokemon characters and I relate to him a lot about being an outcast and him gathering up all the other outcasts and giving them a place they belong is really sweet. I never saw them as "evil" because they're not. They're just a group of misunderstood delinquents and that more down to earth feeling makes me like them more. And I also just like their style and how the grunts walk and move.

I think the evil teams at least should have the decentcy to have a signature type for the team. Rocket: Poison (Because it's still simple) Magma: Ground Aqua: Water Galactic: Psychic Plasma: Ghost/ Dark Flare: Fire Skull: Dark Aether: Steel Yell: Dark/ Poison Cosmos: Steel

my favorite Evil Team was Team Magma (not Aqua) I basically understand what they were trying to accomplish, and what it means for them to win their goal they aren’t bunch of jerks who steals Pokémon for no good reasons, they had some disputes with Devon Corporation which I personally think has more dangerous idea than Team Magma or Aqua, henche why they stole their research in the first place Peeko is not being kidnapped, Peeko is just following that grunt who stole the case from Devon, and we rescued it they had an established rank in their unit, even their entire base looks like an eco campus rather than secret evil organizations and why Magma instead of Aqua, despite they are just the same? because Archie is a fool, he is just a brute pirate who want to meet Kyogre, he never think and leaves all the plans to his admins, which is dumb

My favourite team is Cipher from the Orre games as they are very successful and powerful from the get go. I mean in Colosseum they basically alredy run the region in secret from the start and will crush anyone who stands against them either by force or by taking there loved ones hostage. They don't just use Posion and dark types but will use poekmon of all types and have cool grunts and Admins are all cool and powerful

And now, the Team Skull 3.0 is in latest Pokemon games

As much as I agree with you about Team Flare being one of the more lackluster evil teams, I still find Yell and MC far worse since one isn’t even evil at all, just a bunch of fangirls and fanboys of an underaged girl, and the other is just as bad as their boss. In fact, they are practically nonexistent since I haven’t seen ANY Pokemon fan talk about them. Team Flare may not be all that great but Lysander is at least picking up some of the slack. Chairman Rose? He can’t even lift an ounce of SWSH’s story. Heck, his “evil plan” is only initiated because he was impatient with Leon not showing up.

Wanna know something funny? When I was 10, I played through Pokémon X as my first Pokémon game. When I got to Lysandre’a monologue, I thought he wanted to eradicate all Pokémon (for some reason). My thought was “Why would you ever do that? Pokémon are literally the coolest thing ever?” Like it would be neat if his story was taking things for granted. Apparently my friend told me that his plan was to eradicate humanity or something??? Obviously that’s part of using the Ultimate Weapon but still. To this day I’m conflicted on what Lysandre even said, let alone what his goals were. The explanation of his character was so bad that they got me to think he said the opposite of what he said. Also I never knew he made Holo Casters, was the descendant of AZ’s brother, or even who Malva was. God Flare is such a bad team.

Alternate title : "Team Flare is the worst team ever in Pokemon Series, Lets Bully them!"

While I knew she was in team flare, I never noticed that the e4 lady was also the news reporter in kalos, serious wasted potential for all the set up there