Simon: *uploads first video” “Welcome to another episode of” Admit it, you wanted to say casual criminalist.
@Elysia_Fields2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Callum or Danny, but I'm sure Katy will be fantastic.
@amandajones6612 жыл бұрын
Yep!! I was waiting for it! 😅😅😅
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Classic.
@quigglebert2 жыл бұрын
Alas, too late to the party for pointing out the Freudian slip
@theuglybastard56182 жыл бұрын
I checked the channels video uploads several times just in case I'd missed a video or 2 but no it was just the Fact boy getting confused
@zkuysal2 жыл бұрын
I will predict that by the year 2030, Simon will have over 700 different educational podcasts running simultaneously.
@tavirosu252 жыл бұрын
If Simon ever did NFTs for all this shows, he would break the cryto world 😂
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
And one cocaine fueled, meme pumping, "AM I RIGHT PETER" shouting, every minute there's a new tangent with a 30 minute intro to all videos channel to make us laugh in-between all the learning.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Adds up.
@MrJjones5432 жыл бұрын
Seems low
@locorocco74872 жыл бұрын
I think you're underestimating Simon here, I'm pretty sure he'll run YT by 2030 with over 20k writers and meme-ologists😂😂😂 He also needs a bigger basement, allegedly 😅
@konstantinkh2 жыл бұрын
The translation, "overwhelming force, which the hikers were not able to overcome," is incorrect. The words used to describe the force in Russian are "стихийная сила," which is best translated as "force of nature," which may include weather or avalanche. This is much more reasonable as an explanation in the official report. As for injuries, the report seems to only focus on any signs of injuries that might have been inflicted in a fight. In other words, investigator was satisfied that no 3rd party was involved, and therefore, considered the matter closed. It might not sound satisfying at all, but at least the report reads like something reasonable for a criminal investigator to conclude when read in the original Russian.
@HappyBeezerStudios2 жыл бұрын
I've seen multiple videos on the topic and at least one of them proposed the plausible theory that those injuries came either from falling off a tree (looking for the tent or other signs of civilization) or simply from being buried by snow. As for the avalance, something about infrasound (which would cause discomfort or even panic) and noise that seems to be an avalance without being one.
@grilledleeks65142 жыл бұрын
how is an avalanch a more reasonable explanation for radiation and cut out eyes and tongues? Its not. I answered it for you.
@grilledleeks65142 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios falling from a tree can not remove your eyes and tongue.
@kcbarbo782 жыл бұрын
@@grilledleeks6514 the eyes were not “removed,” and several plausible explanations for the radiation have been suggested. The only mystery is why they left the tent the way they did. Everything that happened after that is easily explainable.
@roetheboat1 Жыл бұрын
@@kcbarbo78 Having been winter camping before, I think they ended up cutting their way out of the tent because the normal method (whether using a zipper, tying knots to keep the flaps sealed, etc) was taking too long due to the extreme cold. Chances are that during normal use, they would have been able to open it up without causing damage, but whatever scared them meant they felt there was a greater risk of getting trapped in the tent than in suffering from damaging the tent. To me, that would indicate that they were worried about an avalanche. Perhaps only one or two people were awake at first, and they started getting dressed while trying to wake up the others. Then something happened that made them abandon their tent immediately. Given the remoteness of the region and the reports of weird glowing lights, I've always wondered if the Soviet military had been using the region to test experimental planes. If so, the sound of the airplanes may have made them worry about the possibility of the planes starting an avalance or even made them think an avalanche had started.
@TrixyTheWonderDog2 жыл бұрын
The hike "leader" is not like a scout leader, or the person that makes life or death decisions. It's literally just the person that's been on the trail before or has the most experience. It's the person you trust to keep you from getting lost on a mountain, they're the leader because they know where they're going. 🙂 While the group had mountain climbing experience, this trail was new and they needed a leader that had climbed it before.
@MadMax-bq6pg Жыл бұрын
They were also qualifying in something like an “outdoor education” certificate which required a designated leader. Add this to they lived in a totalitarian regime which liked enforcing such things probably through “no administration process to control you, no permission to travel”.
@WaywardVet Жыл бұрын
No, in modern times, it's the one who has the keys to the car at the foot of the mountain. I don't hike anything larger than Mt Washington. Higher and more remote, it's the one with the satellite phone. Essentially, the leader is the one with the tools to get home. I'm just the grunt with the tools to make sure we get to that go-home point.
@Craft-oh7uv Жыл бұрын
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to be western spy’s, the deep chest depression was caused by a military vehicle with tracks slowly driving over him, most if not all were tortured before death.
@JohnJones-rc7se Жыл бұрын
Me and my friend who hike have equal knowledge while vast.. we talk about decisions equally on the trail
@Craft-oh7uv Жыл бұрын
@@JohnJones-rc7se ROUGE ELEMENTS OF THE SOVIET MILITARY, END OF STORY !
@dickdastardly42362 жыл бұрын
"If you're new..." I think that's really the only option, isn't it?
@lesliesteele39262 жыл бұрын
Maybe to the universe of channels floating around him? I don't know, but I definitely had to make sure it wasn't the only episode so far. Lol.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Dammit
@dickdastardly42362 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 I'm only subscribed to all your channels so I'm not exactly new. But new to this one.
@vicster19812 жыл бұрын
Glad it wasn’t only me!
@brandonsizemore36192 жыл бұрын
Comment!
@meld05072 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to think Simon is the one being kept prisoner and a group of writers are forcing him to read their scripts all day long. How else does someone have this many channels?
@DeborahLongtin2 жыл бұрын
He narrates books on audible too. Simon is working that lovely voice. I am glad for it.
@Kari.F.2 жыл бұрын
@@DeborahLongtin What!? I had no idea. Thanks for mentioning that. Audible, here I come! 🏃♀️
@paulherman58222 жыл бұрын
Replicants. Allegedly.
@AndrewMitchell1232 жыл бұрын
nah, we cracked the mystery a loong time ago, Blaze boi is in fact a robot bcs come on, you cant make this much content in a day, have family and all that shit and be human... sry I dont buy that at all... Simon being an android or smth rather than human is the only conspiracy theory I am willing to get behind at this point :D
@jessicabamber87322 жыл бұрын
Yes, a Britney Spears type situation. 🤣
@savannahforever660 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Alaska for 20 years, and I have almost died from hypothermia after falling into a freezing River, and delirium from hypothermia is 100% real. I didn't know which way was up or down I just started running because I thought that's what I should be doing, I stripped off all of my clothes because I became extremely heated inside my body even though I was frozen and near death, I felt the largest panic I've ever felt in my entire life and was probably just screaming at the top of my lungs and running around like a chicken with his head cut off while stripping all my clothes off into the snow. I believe that that's what they did after they were all violently crushed and tumbled around in their tents from the avalanche that was triggered. By the way to those of you that don't believe an avalanche can literally crush humans, it doesn't even have to have a layer of ice in it to be able to do that. An avalanche of powdered snow will literally crush your body and whip you around so violently and break your ribs break your back, etc, at the same time it's dragging you along with it sometimes over several miles, over logs, ice, branches, debris of all kinds, and tons of other things that will injure you while you're in it. And a lot of the time you'll never be found. So the fact that they had injuries consistent with avalanche incidents like broken ribs and having to break out of their tents from the inside is extremely plausible in my mind, because when you get whipped around and buried by an avalanche, especially in your tent while you're sleeping or cooking dinner, there's no way you're going to find that zipper to open the little flap to get out of your tent you're just going to start clawing your way out of there no matter how you got to do it. I don't think it's that crazy to assume that some of them were wearing each other's clothing or underwears or whatever because a couple of them could have been hooking up or hanging out together if you know what I mean. Logic and science will tell us always that a body that is laying out in the middle of a wooded mountain range for weeks or months almost always gets the soft tissue of the dead body eating away by little animals in the forest like eyeballs tongue, etc. For the radiation I think your guess is probably the best guess there is. And I wouldn't rule out the sun being the cause of the burned skin on some of them. Snow is extremely reflective and the sun does come out in the day everyday, and if mostly naked body is laying out on the side of a mountain for weeks or months, the person's skin is not only getting exposed unprotected to the Sun every minute of the day, but it's also getting extra strong sun rays from the reflection off of the snow and ice which will make it a lot worse. Obviously this is just my opinion, and just like buttholes, we all have one.
@lovesiriusblack Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing seeing intelligent responses so far after a video has been published! I think you are entirely right, if you yourself haven't experienced freezing conditions in the north you can't know how weird it can get.. Sweden isn't the coldest of places, nor the varmest 😅
@ZMB-on5ub Жыл бұрын
Not everyone has such a coherent butthole. Be proud.
@johnsguitarmusicanddemos Жыл бұрын
I agree. I lived in Alaska too but too young to have experiences. An avalanche definitely seems the most plausible.
@4lyeskas Жыл бұрын
I love this about 90% for the butthole quip
@houstonbaxter5537 Жыл бұрын
I like your explanation, Savanna. Also the woman being found under 13ft(4m) of snow sounds unbelievable
@Remianen2 жыл бұрын
Burns on the feet are easily explainable. Those two had made a fire. In a hasty attempt to warm their feet, they got too close but due to how cold/frozen their feet were, they didn't feel their feet burning for much longer than normal. Also Simon, you don't have to be 12 or a Scout to appoint a leader on a hiking trip, especially if you're staying overnight. Depending on the size of the party, you might have reason to send multiple people to perform tasks for the group. The person with the strongest skills in that area (hunting, fishing, making camp, treating water, foraging, etc) becomes the leader for that task. I do find it funny that you had to sleep a night on the cold ground before you thought to put tree boughs down though. You'll know for the next time!
@raymondperry4398 Жыл бұрын
you gonna notice your body burning / turning black i feel like tho, not feel it but yea, not much of other sensible explanation. 12 year old, this guys an idiot , hiking in his backyard not mountains 70 miles deep into unknown away from civilization, with no cell phone like this guy playing in his local park with 15 different technologies lol
@--enyo--9 ай бұрын
Also ice burns are a thing. Like if they were running barefoot through the snow.
@user-qz3um5rw4g2 жыл бұрын
About the burn marks: It seems likely to me that two guys with almost no clothes on and a fireplace at -14, got their frozen feet to close to the fireplace in attempt to warm their frozen feet, that they didn't feel how they were burning them ( you can sustain burns well away from flames)?
@amandabeaty14922 жыл бұрын
But frozen skin doesn't feel frozen. Once its already froze it starts to feel like it's on fire. And frost bite is extremely painful to defrost. I can see how they ended up undressed. But weren't these blokes Russian? They should have known the symptoms of frostbite.
@geodkyt2 жыл бұрын
It actually is quite common for people to burn themselves while trying to warm up, as they don't feel the *burn*, even if their frostbitten extremities are already feeling like they are burning. I've personally witnessed several people give themselves second degree burns (and sometimes set their clothes on fire) trying to warm up with a fire.
@geodkyt2 жыл бұрын
@ToasterWeevil Not necessarily related to the disaster - dating such burn marks in trees in the winter can be remarkably difficult unless you're going to take careful samples for detailed scientific analysis... something the recovery parties were not doing nor prepared to do. They could have been as simple as lightning effects from storms before, during, or after the incident. Or they could have been related to warming fires the survuvors tried to use before dying. Or they could have been something other than burn marks altogether - many things can cause marks that *look* like surface burn marks on trees. We have a pretty good idea that the Soviets didn't have death ray guns in the late 1950s. And a heat output that would have done that from a distance with anything less than a focused coherent beam (like say, a rocket exploding) would have flash melted, well, all the snow... including all the footprints, and caused a flash flood that would have stripped pretty.much everything off the slope that wasn't nailed down.
@amandabeaty14922 жыл бұрын
@@geodkyt It's so easy to get frostbite. Last winter I was working outside in - 25c. I forgot to cover my ears. I hadn't been out for very long but my ears started to burn. Living in the Canadian prairies, we were taught that it's a sign your skin is starting to freeze. I would have thought these lads and ladies would have known that but I guess if you're that far out there's not much you can do.
@jturtle53182 жыл бұрын
@@amandabeaty1492 frostbite is painful to thaw, and in my experience it was hard to gauge the temperature of the warm water I used. My feet didn't know if they were in ice water or scalding water.
@2lefThumbs2 жыл бұрын
Re the radioactivity mystery, back in the 70s when my parents took me camping in the UK, my mother used to stock up on gas mantles - I'm pretty sure that Russians in the 50s would have done ao too. Those mantles are a soft woven structure soaked in thorium salts. The salts glow a bright wgite when hot, and the woven structure vaporises, so the mantle becomes very friable once used- the thorium remains very radiioactive though, so anyone near a gas lamp that falls oved would have easily detectable traces of radioactive dust on thwm
@ruthmeow42622 жыл бұрын
I remember those.
@davidponder16542 жыл бұрын
I remember it being a lamp of some sort being suspected, I thought it was a tritium lamp though
@dfuher9682 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I read about this a while ago. An avalanche expert had recreated this entire thing with a simulation program, and the only thing not explained by the avalanche was the radiation. But he had then specifically looked into all their gear and found, that they were indeed using such lamps as described by 2LeftThumbs. So in my book - case closed, fully explained. Tho ofc, I had to listen to Simon discover the story anyway 😉
@toffeefuchs2 жыл бұрын
@@dfuher968 man, now I want a follow up video with an avalance expert explaining every detail with fancy 3d simulations :D
@MrBaconandlegs2 жыл бұрын
@@toffeefuchs THat's actually how they ended up wrapping this one up. "Ask a Mortician"' has a video on this, someone investigating the case got in touch with Pixar and asked to use thei snow engine they used for the movie Frozen to recreate possible scenarios on an avanlance.
@dingusdean19052 жыл бұрын
I've heard people say the burn marks were caused by the freezing people practically sticking their bodies into a makeshift fire in a desperate attempt to warm themselves.
@lizabee4842 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, as always. This is a story I’ve heard over and over again, but what normally gets lost is the humanity and identity of the victims. The inclusion of the individual photos, especially when talking about the horrific injuries they suffered, really hit home. Reminded me of the true loss behind this mysterious unsolved case, especially after you shared the detail that the search party was just all of their desperate friends and relatives. That is the truly horrifying bit of this story, that is so often overlooked. Thank you.
@justicar52 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have heard: They were camped on a slope, the snow slipped burying the tent, they tore their way out, and ran in case of more slips, grabbing whatever clothes weren't buried, the burns were from getting to close to the small fire in a desperate attempt to keep warm, and they stripped off and scrambled about the trees as the delirium of hypothermia hit, and the injuries were from the original slip, the radiation was probably fallout from the Khystym disaster, which had occurred in the region two years earlier, at the near by secret city of Chelyabinsk-40,.
@t.j.payeur53312 жыл бұрын
That's absurd...
@NecroSnak2 жыл бұрын
OR!!! Maybe the burns occurred because the tent slipped while they were cooking. They left in a hurry to escape the smoke!!! Did I figure it out?!?! Am I a genius?!?!?! D..=!
@joshuahadams2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. Big ol slab of snow fell in the tent afterimage got warm and settled, softening the surrounding snow.
@kittycodding41832 жыл бұрын
I saw a documentary on this. Due to warm weather before the last snowfall there was a sheet of ice between snows. When they dug into the slope they destabilized the ice sheet slipped and it fell on them and crushed them in the middle of the night as the current snow made it heavier. It's as solved as it could be now.
@juhajuntunen25572 жыл бұрын
This is possible scenario. Oven was stored, not in use bause they want spend so called cold night, those hiking trips were to receive enough credit to gain better status in hiking. They were some level 2 and gaining enough credit its possible to go level 3, like in video game! But plausible, some minor errors, bad decisions and worst luck possible this happens. They try survive after evacuating from tent but not enough cloth or equipment and bad luck with survival shelter they die.
@CanadianDani2 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to another episode of" *Is the first episode of this channel Thank you Simon 😅
@evillttlimp2 жыл бұрын
I, an idiot, double checked to make sure I didn't miss the earlier episode :P
@bradlevantis9132 жыл бұрын
Hahah. That’s what I thought too
@writeonshell2 жыл бұрын
@@evillttlimp I think we all did. Don't want to miss out on any fact boy content.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Classic fact boy
@anamkarajoy2 жыл бұрын
@@evillttlimp We all checked. 🤣
@fnargler2 жыл бұрын
Having looked into this pretty thoroughly in the past, I have a few theories of what might have happened. Cutting out of the tent from the inside in varying degrees of undress and with mismatched clothing, as well as the burns are likely caused by some sort of mishap with the stove. Camp stoves from the era could be fed wood from inside the tent to remain warm and featured an exhaust chimney with a double hinged top that was supposed to vent the fumes and keep things from entering the pipe. It's likely that the storm could have obstructed or clogged this pipe, causing the tent to rapidly fill with smoke. The burns are consistent with attempts to smother the fire and in the official reports it's also mentioned that there is burning of the esophagus and lungs on some of them. They probably failed to put out the stove and hastily threw on whatever clothes they could in the confusion, then walked to the nearby tree line for the closest thing they could manage for shelter. At this point, one of them climbed a tree to get a lay of the land and fell, causing injury and leaving the blood up in the tree. The internal injuries, bruising and broken bones several of them suffered could be cause by a number of things and there is some evidence to support that they may have fallen down a somewhat steep cliff face near where the first bodies were found. The explanation for the radiation being that a couple of them worked with radiation is the most likely explanation, though a case could be made for the snow itself being irradiated by some sort of nuclear tests, also resulting in the lights in the night sky. There was a secret military base after all. I'm not particularly convinced of that and personally think the whole "lights in the sky" thing is probably a fabricated element perpetuated by UFO obsessed people to give the whole event an extra spook-factor. Whatever the case, It's likely less spectacular than people think and more of an unfortunate culmination of events than a supernatural occurrence or government conspiracy.
@Elemental_Entity2 жыл бұрын
The tent had no signs of a fire or smoke damage.
@Greg-yu4ij2 жыл бұрын
The severe winds blew a chunk of snow in front of the tent in the middle of the night. They panicked and cut their way out. They headed for the tree line for dry wood but realized too late there was none. Several hikers started back. The ones at the tree line climbed up for some dead branches and started a fire but the wind was too brutal and they froze. The ones going uphill got lost and froze. The remaining ones took the clothes from their dead comrades and went further downhill to dig a shelter. While digging they broke through and fell 10 feet and hit their heads on rocks. They died of concussion or hypothermia. The radiation came from lab contamination.
@DeliveryMcGee Жыл бұрын
On radiation: gas camping lantern (think that green Coleman thing that's a tank, a glass cylinder, and a hat, if you're American) mantles -- a basket of specially-treated fine cloth mesh takes the gas flame and turns into a lightbulb filament, basically -- at the time the mesh was cotton doped with radioactive thorium nitride. I'd assume everybody had a spare set of replacement lantern mantles in their pocket, or thorium dust on their bodies from replacing said radioactive mesh when they wore out (once the cotton burns out, it's just a fragile shell of thorium oxide dust). Evacuating ahead of an avalanche, getting caught up in it and smashed against trees downslope explain the panic and the trauma injuries, hypothermia (getting numb frostbitten feet too close to the fire/undressing) are common symptoms of extreme hypothermia, and the missing soft bits by scavengers.
@Lynx1123 ай бұрын
If anyone investigated this with more than just their thoughts they would have seen the photographs that were taken from the 30+ yo guy that was the one taking most of the photos, when the roll of film was developed.
@toxogandhi2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jen is roasting Simon in half of her work and he's just fine with it. Jen is a legend.
@Wolfintery2 жыл бұрын
Suggested topics for Paranormal Simon: Portlock Alaska: The towns people fled en masse due to a number of unsolved murders and disappearances. The Himalayans Skeleton Lake: A lake where 800 skeletons were discovered Michigans UFO wave of 1966 Good ol' classic Skinwalker Ranch
@TheToasterPirate Жыл бұрын
Another rec: the Khamar Daban incident. Another USSR hiking disaster, very creepy, very weird, lots of conspiracies about it now.
@QuantumBoogaloo2 жыл бұрын
Next episode should be “how did Simon trap Danny in the basement?”
@mrjones27212 жыл бұрын
Given the sheer number of writers required to keep him stocked with scripts, that basement must be crowded. Maybe Danny’s not trapped, just stuck in the bathroom line or behind a cluster of writers brainstorming ideas for Simon’s next four channels.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Ghosts. I lured him there with ghosts.
@cradleofgoth2 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 instructions aren't clear enough, please elaborate, i want a Danny too
@jenniferhayden19742 жыл бұрын
You have to know that the first rule of any kind of a crime is not to record it and that includes him making a video or podcast of how he locked Danny in the basement "allegedly".
@GauntsTanith2 жыл бұрын
What if Simon is the one in the basement? Controlled by Danny and his legion of writers, forcing Simon to make KZfaq channels??
@whiteumbrella9344 Жыл бұрын
Depressing that such a promising group of people were lost. So many smart, capable people with promise. They would probably have done a lot for the world.
@PhDTony_original2 жыл бұрын
The Dyatlov pass incident has been explained - there was an article published in the journal Nature earlier this year.. missing eyes and tongue - scavengers. Radiation - Soviet era military personnel & vehicles handling and transporting the evidence. The trauma - caused by an ice slab avalanche hitting the tent in the middle of the night. The campers had to cut their way out of the tent and flee the wind that had driven the ice slab. They headed in the direction of whatever shelter they could see with whatever clothing they managed to scavenge in their flight. Realising that the less well dressed campers were in immediate danger some of the team tried to make their way back to the tents but in the severe weather conditions they were unable to make it. Burns are the result of trying to stay too close to a fire while freezing to death...
@kokeskokeskokes2 жыл бұрын
Did you see how large the slab was supposed to be? As if from a roof top. They wouldn't run away rather to freeze to death because of that. Not in Russia. Besides, they couldn't have dug any slab. They didn't even prepare the fire properly because they were so tired. They actually woke a bear up, he roughed them up a bit and went to sleep again, because bears never feed in the winter. Case closed, difficulty level really easy.
@PhDTony_original2 жыл бұрын
@@kokeskokeskokes well I suggest you publish your findings in a peer-reviewed journal. You might hit some pesky questions like: "where is there any evidence of a bear attack?" You know - bite marks - claw marks - that sort of thing. Also you have failed to understand the reconstruction of events. The people were not fleeing the slab. They were trying to find shelter from the wind before they succumbed to hypothermia. But you know, apart from a complete lack of evidence and absolutely no scientific rigour - great story.
@kokeskokeskokes2 жыл бұрын
@@PhDTony_original Thank you, and you are welcome. I find the evidence in the way some group members were mauled. Duh. I am unaware of any further evidence, are you? My story therefore matches. Sorry I have no peers. Did you know that publishing in peer-reviewed papers is a paid thing? Who sane would do that, and why?
@kokeskokeskokes2 жыл бұрын
@@PhDTony_original If you are willing to push it through, I am willing to write it. But I guess I may have more pressing issues to publish if you sponsor it.
@PhDTony_original2 жыл бұрын
@@kokeskokeskokes you don't need a "sponsor" to publish - you just need evidence and scientific rigour.
@KlaximumSkroeft2 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough Whistler videos to know that 1: It was definitely the Russians experimenting on their own people 2: This is where I throw in an 'allegedly' 3: I will now be poisoned with Novichok
@solgato51862 жыл бұрын
lsd
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
Just start using a vpn, in a couple weeks one'll probably sponsor this channel
@michaelgallagher36402 жыл бұрын
You will end up his first video on Simon's 234th channel.
@anamkarajoy2 жыл бұрын
I’m still suspicious of the *ONE* “who got away” *_before_* the sh!t hit the fan… 🧐
@user-xr4jy5vv4f2 жыл бұрын
Technically it was kinda solved already The avalanche can have caused all those injuries based on what we know now
@benjie1282 жыл бұрын
Ask a mortician did a video on this that discussed how the frozen animation of snow allowed them to actually render a digital estimation of what happened. Most likely an avalanche.
@Untapped88192 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I was scrolling to see if anyone had mentioned this!
@sisterspooky2 жыл бұрын
@Benjie128 - Yup, this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJ-EftJ13LG2k3U.html
@piperjaycie2 жыл бұрын
This was solved in 2018 by actual hikers in the exact same area. It was a katabatic wind that most likely hit the area. The same thing happen to a group of Swedish hikers in 1979. Only this time they were found the next day not a week later. One of them survived but was in such bad condition and so traumatised it took 4 months for them to be able to say what had happened to the group. The Disney theory doesn’t explain even a little bit of the whole situation but it got more coverage because it’s linked to Frozen. Also it really doesn’t help that hardly anyone does up to date research on things like this. They just copy the misinformation that others have stated in things that could be several years old at this point.
@craftingemily2 жыл бұрын
Yes I just mentioned this then started scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned this. I couldn’t remember where I watched I watched it. I think I have to go watch that video again!
@carolynnichols34762 жыл бұрын
Notice the tent poles still standing? No avalanche.
@Nanno002 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos (and recommending them to others) o Geographics for at least 6 months now. I was so happy to have KZfaq recommendations pop up with you on this channel and another! I’ve just subbed to both as well. You are my favorite storyteller Simon!
@johnlane12067 ай бұрын
Of all the " mysterious things " I've heard about, this one is still able to make me shake my head. I know that avalanche is the most popular explanation , but I've never heard a satisfactory explanation for how an avalanche that caught them up and killed (some of) them, left their footprints and tent intact.
@goremall43307 ай бұрын
Exactly, not to mention that their skis were still standing in the snow, plus there was no sign of an avalanche form the rescue party, plus avalanches aren’t prone in that area and haven’t happened since, etc. etc. To keep the skis still standing next to the tent is huge, this cancels the high winds and avalanche theories. Both would have cause the skis to fall.
@PastorOfMuppets912 жыл бұрын
Eventually, Simon is going to be uploading more than 24 hours of videos per day every day, and no one is gonna question how.
@nathansmith36082 жыл бұрын
There were a couple days that brain blaze streamed old episodes for 24 hours & Simon put out videos on other channels, so I think he's technically done it already
@AzeraV2 жыл бұрын
@Nero or maybe even more with just how much he gets out there
@bellasmom25972 жыл бұрын
Simon is actually triplets
@BobHoss42 жыл бұрын
One of the things that bugs me about how people talk about the dyatlov pass incident is how fixated everyone is about the radiation: Most things around you are covered in at least a trace of radiation. You, your clothes, your accessories, any jewelry, all can set off a Geiger counter. Just at low levels of the safer forms of radiation. I've never seen any accounting of this story go into the radiation bit. What levels were the radiation detected? What *kind* of radiation? Not too mention you don't need to be working in a lab to be exposed to radiation, since it can be carried by wind. So it can get to you wherever however. Only water really stops it or cancels it out.
@velentr2 жыл бұрын
...where the clothes of every person iradiated or just the one working at Mayak, as a _nuclear engineer_ 's ?
@willyolio95902 жыл бұрын
several of them were physicists/engineers from a Soviet university DURING THE COLD WAR, one of them literally was known for working on the cleanup crew after a major nuclear incident. It's a complete non-mystery here.
@velentr2 жыл бұрын
@@willyolio9590 THANK YOU-my point exactly! And couple that with the fact that they were wearing each other's clothes, so even if people point out "but so and so had no reason to be near anything radioactive!" Is at least possible _maybe_ that they picked up a sweater from some one that did, or are we just going directly to "ALiEnS Did IT!!" ?
@jturtle53182 жыл бұрын
Secret nuclear weapons testing in the area is my favorite, it accounts for the lights in the sky and the panic.
@velentr2 жыл бұрын
@@jturtle5318 That is a good one, actually. Also their camping lamps apparently had a mantle made from Thorium, which emits a small amount of radiation...All in All, the radiation is a complete _non_ -mystery which has been blown way out of proportion, partly due to Soviet fear of international embarrassment, incompetence and people's need for sensationalism. Sorry for the rant.
@arieldavis36622 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested, they actually do have a hypothesis about this incident that an independent investigation by a team of outside researchers recently seemed to support (and was subsequently published in an official scientific paper) The youtuber Anton Petrov has a fascinating video unpacking the scientific paper that explains it all, and I have to say it was probably one of the most thorough and detailed studies I’ve ever seen! Without having any survivors or witnesses to interview, it seems that this discovery is the closest we will ever get to truly “knowing” what happened, but the evidence really does point to the theory this video discusses. (Not including any spoilers about the theory here in case anyone is interested and wants to watch the video for themselves) Side note: I enjoy the channel Simon! My one *very scientific* hypothesis is that one day, youtube will consist of only Simon Whistler channels and videos. (insert *one of us, one of us* chant here) edit: just finished watching this video, and one of the theories included happens to be the exact theory that gets revealed, albeit all of the seeming loopholes are covered! you definitely do your research😌
@BigBrainLynx Жыл бұрын
@Lorraine Thomson Hes a narrator... He didn't write the script
@BigBrainLynx Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Trott Thats what the style of this channel is. He reads a script and shows his views on it. He has a dozen other channels of different types of content.
@wolfiemuse Жыл бұрын
I’d never heard that one of the hikers had taken part in nuclear cleanup and had worked at the plant. That’s the thing that kept me from believing it was an avalanche - it’s too weird for radiation to be a factor naturally. So it was nice to hear the work your script goblin went into, cause I’ve literally never heard that from any other channels covering the incident. And I’ve seen many.
@honda63532 жыл бұрын
This is just a documentation of randomly stumbling across another one of Simon's channels.
@avalanche19902 жыл бұрын
Yeah no kidding. 12 days late but it popped up on the main page of my KZfaq videos to watch and went damnit simon another one
@jacksonlynch17312 жыл бұрын
Simon is rapidly building an empire filled with increasingly more well-educated followers. And I am here for it
@tyzilla358 Жыл бұрын
Considering the amount of them somehow think this was caused by an avalanche in an area where it's impossible for one to occur proves that both them and you aren't sure what you are talking about......
@jacksonlynch1731 Жыл бұрын
@@tyzilla358 I'm not sure what that has to do with me...
@AaronLitz2 жыл бұрын
OK, I love Jen's video editing touches. The tents that wiggled and made a tinkling sound genuinely made me smile.
@user-bg6yn3px6r7 ай бұрын
Points which no theory till date is able to explain : 1.) Igor Dyatloy was missing an incisor in his jaw 2.) Yuri doroshenko suffered serious burns on his skull and foot. The grey liquid coming out of his mouth 3.) Yuri krivonishenko also had severe burns on his foot 4.) Lyudmila and semyon both found without eyes. The eyes of both of them were taken out. A medic on the rescue team even went far to say that they were removed with surgical precession 5.) Lyudmila is missing tissues on her face. Her lips were taken out & missing tounge 6.) Semyon was missing eyebrow tissues 7.) The element of Radioactivity 8.) Why all went in the same direction in a line. Why some of them did not went slightly right or left 9.) Tent opening from inside 10.) Time of death for every individual. And why those who survived did not do anything for finding help and instead waited for a slow death. 11.) According to another hiking group they witnessed soviet military personnel there in second week of February but rescue team only found them on 26th february.
@TheDesius5 ай бұрын
I saw the pictures of the corpses and the missing eyes isn't really surprising. You could barely even call those 2 bodies, they were more like skeletons. So the eyes were most likely just rotted away already like most of the flesh or eaten by aninals
@cheerful_crop_circle4 ай бұрын
@@TheDesius But still mystery
@AppleStrawberryLove4 ай бұрын
All the flesh that was missing was just decomposition or animal predation. As far as the waiting for slow death, hypothermia impairs brain function. You make bad decisions like staying still. This actually is also related to the burns on the feet. Extremities are the first to be affected by hypothermia (usually more exposed and also less vital so the body sacrifices them to keep the heat in the core where vital organs are). Hypothermia in its later stages causes numbness. If your feet are so frozen that you can't feel, you can get them too close to a fire trying to warm them up and end up burning them instead.
@cheerful_crop_circle4 ай бұрын
@@AppleStrawberryLove cute.
@idleonlooker10782 жыл бұрын
This is one of Simon's best bargains IMO. He's as content, and as engaging, as an Englishman can be in a pub!! 🍺😊
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Englishmen are always most engaging in the pub ;)
@idleonlooker10782 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Indeed! I've spent many a convivial evening with my UK friends in pubs and then happily "kicked the shoe home"!! 😊👍
@AmberLie2 жыл бұрын
You think this is great.... have you watched Business....ermm.... Brain Blaze?? ♡
@GillianCranston2 жыл бұрын
This. Just this statement is so true. It just feels that Simon is so relaxed and says things I can relate too. Just feels like a chat. **Dont forget dogmen Simon.
@iworshiplemons2 жыл бұрын
@@AmberLie it will never be brain blaze! Business blaze lives!
@klaatunecktie79062 жыл бұрын
I’m here at the beginning, when Simon finally sold out. “I see other KZfaqrs that do some paranormal stuff, and then when the analytics tell them that’s the most popular, they morph into being more and more about the paranormal even if they don’t believe it. It’s sad.” - Paraphrasing Simon Whistler
@lealta14812 жыл бұрын
Lol I totally remember that
@Elysia_Fields2 жыл бұрын
You've gotta love Simon's "little Capitalist heart", as he calls it, going where the money is. 🤣
@calibmatlock2 жыл бұрын
"Since we're making a part 2 it's because the first video did really well and I'm creatively bankrupt." You've got to love that level of transparency.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Hahahha you'll know I've truly sold out when in two years this channel is all like: "GUYS, GHOSTS ARE REAL, LETS TALK FOR HOURS ABOUT PEOPLES ANECDOTAL GHOST EXPERIENCES" And that is the day that my capitalism went too far.
@Raine_lrr2 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGEND!
@butcheryandbroth7 ай бұрын
Happy to have found this! Randomly discovered your podcast. You have the perfect voice, style, tempo and themes! Just amazing, great job, fantastic. Cheers!
@JohnJohnson-os5dc Жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon, I really Love your Videos!!! I have watched several different channels and they are all Great!!!
@KlaximumSkroeft2 жыл бұрын
'another episode' hah! Good one, mate. I was afraid I'd have to add multiple videos to my extensive backlog of your content I've yet to watch. Grand to be here with you legends, dunking on the supernatural.
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
Hahha I have a whole bunch recorded and uploaded, and picked the one i thought would be most popular for the pilot episode ;D
@DeborahLongtin2 жыл бұрын
Simon, I feel like you are a friend who tells me ridiculous stories. I just love listening to you amuse yourself and expand on a script. This new show is a welcome addition to my absolute favorite, The Casual Criminalist. Looking forward to more creepy nonsense stories. Love it!
@mikeygallos50002 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I love story time with Simon and Friends. I need to go get my popcorn ready 🍿
@danielwetmore69072 жыл бұрын
👋 i hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness prosperity love and peace 💞❤️🕊️🕊️ all over the world 🙏🌍 I'm originally from Forth Worth Texas currently. and you where are you from if i may ask?
@pineforest14422 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for talking about this on your channel. Everytime I hear this story, I rarely hear any logical ideas as to what went down. Simon, you brought logic into this mystery that I really needed and I thank you for that.
@carolynmorris13412 жыл бұрын
I always love listening to Mr. Whistler. He definitely does the script justice as he reads them. He has a good voice and great on-screen personality.
@MrGouldilocks2 жыл бұрын
It's an avalanche. I'm guessing they were sleeping and woke up just in time to cut their way out of the tent and flee. The rescue team stated that the tracks away from the tent did not indicate urgency or panic. I suspect it's hard to run when you're in the middle of an active avalanche. The autopsy reports also indicate the hikers suffered significant impact injuries which would have slowed them considerably. It's also possible that several of them were too injured to run or even walk and were being helped by their comrades. When the avalanche subsided they were cold, disoriented, and injured. They might not have been physically capable of making it back to the tent to retrieve their clothing and gear; they also might not know where it was, or assumed it was all buried under snow or swept away. They decided to shelter in place and succumbed to their injuries and the cold within a day or two. The first hikers to die were stripped of their coats, socks etc by their fellow hikers. The hikers that had several layers were the last to perish. Animals and decomposition explain the missing eyes, and general state of the bodies. Burns are from trying to get warm. Impact of avalanche is consistent with wounds comparable to being struck by a car. The radiation is likely due their day jobs; they were all scientists or engineers. Soviet authorities didn't want to alarm the public, or admit that they had no idea what happened. So they quickly issued a vague report and closed the investigation.
@Chris-hx3om2 жыл бұрын
Nice...
@willyolio95902 жыл бұрын
Just something to add, recent research has shown that the type of avalanche they suffered was very rare, and practically unheard of even in modern day. Even these experienced hikers would never have thought that an avalanche was even possible where they set up camp. For it to happen in the middle of the night, they would have been disoriented and confused, not to mention injured, and they would have been blindly considering every explanation other than avalanche as well, in the dark.
@Chris-hx3om2 жыл бұрын
@@willyolio9590 I like this comment thread. Logically, and not invoking any 'woo-woo'... It's the way the world is (mostly)...
@Bluesit322 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised any of them survived the avalanche long enough to move around. I mean, these are some TERRIBLE injuries. How'd they even dig themselves out?
@kevinweakley28522 жыл бұрын
Where’s the snow ?
@saphira23232 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for you to debunk aaaaall the supernatural things. I didn’t know I needed this but I’m so ready.
@Alex-cw3rz2 жыл бұрын
The wind one makes a lot of sense, when hearing that wind coming it freaked them out as they presumed an avalanche was coming this is why they cut from the inside and jumped out, in the rush not taking clothes and burning themselves on the stove by accident. Then after it had subsided, it was only a bit of snowfall compared to an avalanche however the tent was submerged and due to this they couldn't find it leading to some looking for it, others making a make shift shelter, some falling into the ravine etc. All dying in smaller groups as they were trying to get a new shelter sorted out quickly but not dressed correctly.
@barbaralanders60492 жыл бұрын
I like it, esp. as a 'real' avalanche in this weather would have left 'a bit of extra snow' for the search team to see?
@landonlacy19542 жыл бұрын
This damn story man. My younger brother became obsessed with this story and trying to find out what actually happened. He got involved with a group of people also obsessed with this case and finding out what happened. Everytime there was a new clue or theroy they heard about it would consume the majority of their time. It seriously became a problem for my brother. Like he lost his job (he was an orthopedic surgeon) then he and several members of the group he had joined trying to find out what happened in this case. Decided to actually go visit the location where this actually happened. As if they would somehow find something that everyone else that had already been there investigating this case wasn't able to. Spoiler alert they didn't find shit. But it was the last straw for my brothers wife and divorce followed soon after the trip. But despite the lose of his job, his wife, many of his friends and his social life. He refused to get back into the swing of his life. it was hard to see. But my family and I we're actually pretty excited that he and several other people in the group he joined planned on taking another trip to the location where this incident happened. This is because when he returned from his previous trip he was so much happier and motivated to get back into the swing of life. So we expected a similar outcome this time. But that's not what happened. When he returned home this time his behavior got worse and he seemed really depressed. He never wanted to do anything or Interact with our family. Everything just got worse and worse until he couldn't do it anymore and he committed suicide just 3 weeks after he returned home. His death broke our family. And despite all the effort, time and energy, and all of the things my brother lost. He was no closer to finding an answer to what happened to these Russian hiker's.
@KarnodAldhorn Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry. That sounds horrible.
@mr.onethirtyeight5088 Жыл бұрын
Heavy
@Olive131 Жыл бұрын
Sending wishes to you for healing.
@BryceHomier17 Жыл бұрын
That is...jesus christ. Thats awful. He needed professional help, poor soul. If it wasnt this mystery it would have been another. He latched on to something to keep him going because he was in a super awful state of mind. Sorry for your loss man.
@Loralanthalas Жыл бұрын
To think: all he had to do was find the original autopsy reports and find someone who KNEW RUSSIAN to read it. The force of nature, which the autopsy ACTUALLY list as death, was aka "avalanche".
@mrjones27212 жыл бұрын
Simon. There’s this thing called sleep. It’s like caffeine, except it works. I’d hate to lose eight hours of your delightful voice, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make when the alternative is perishing of exhaustion. (Also, subscribed. DAMN YOU.)
@decodingtheunknown23732 жыл бұрын
No need for sleep. I am a robot sent from the future.
@hughjass19762 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 someone warn Arnie
@anamkarajoy2 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Wait! So the whole cryogenic freezing plan is a cover you’ve just blown? 🤭
@christinescreativitycabine2802 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Ah, that explains a lot.
@mistybrass37192 жыл бұрын
@@decodingtheunknown2373 I knew it!!
@Elysia_Fields2 жыл бұрын
Remember that time Simon mentioned this incident on the Casual Criminalist, but said it was solved so it wouldn't fit on that channel? Yeah, me neither.
@jevinday2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Simon has mentioned this on every channel he runs at least once haha
@PhoenixLyon2 жыл бұрын
Well, it has been a huge WTF?, since it happened....in 1959. I think it was a military experiment that went wrong. Something to do with sound. The injuries and radiation I have no idea.✌😸
@Destructerator2 жыл бұрын
these are profoundly entertaining. the writer banter, the commentary, the humor, the subject matter. keep it up
@bobbiecapewell53332 жыл бұрын
"I'm so glad I made it out of the crazy, eye eating, radiation situation" I feel bad laughing, but that's hilarious
@ignitionfrn22232 жыл бұрын
2:20 - Chapter 1 - The Mystery 5:40 - Chapter 2 - The history 26:10 - Chapter 3 - The Mansi 28:55 - Chapter 4 - Animal attack 30:00 - Chapter 5 - Mania 33:00 - Chapter 6 - Katabatic winds 34:35 - Chapter 6.1 - KGB 38:25 - Chapter 6.2 - Lights in the sky 44:00 - Chapter 7 - Avalanche 45:50 - Chapter 8 - Loose ends
@laneyashtonc2 жыл бұрын
I really love this kind of format, doing the paranormal related stuff. I recommend doing a video on the Hinterkeifek Murders and maybe the Annelise Michel case. They’d be amazing topics for this kind of channel
@user-dg9pu4pe9d2 жыл бұрын
I have also suggested the Hinterkeifeck murders on the Casual Criminalist.
@amandam86092 жыл бұрын
Anneliese Michel!!! Yes, that’s a good one! Gloria Ramirez too, and Mary Reeser
@Aaron_Scissorhands2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there's nothing paranormal about any of those. Hinterkaifek is definitely interesting though.
@danielwetmore69072 жыл бұрын
👋 i hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness prosperity love and peace 💞❤️🕊️🕊️ all over the world 🙏🌍 I'm originally from Forth Worth Texas currently. and you where are you from if i may ask?
@Potatoes85858 Жыл бұрын
What I think most likely happened: Cause - winds, avalanche or fear of incoming avalanche (due to noise, winds) made them run. They cut the tent as it used buttons back then, not easy to quickly get out, especially in cold conditions, your fingers are much less responsive. In their panic/sleepiness they thought they couldn't save anything and rather than wasting time to try, possibly being caught in the avalanche or dying of exposure, they went towards the forest below to get shelter and start a fire. They might have underestimated how close to it they were (or had no choice). What happened to the first 2 dead - They reached the cedar tree. They climbed up to find dry branches for the fire, getting bruises, scrapes, maybe even a light fall. They made a fire but realised it was not nearly enough given the cold and light clothes. At this point the group might have split up either due to differing opinions on what to do or delegating tasks. 3 decided to go back to the tent to get supplies, 4 went to build a shelter (sort of cut-out) to protect from the wind. It's clear the 2 dead near the fire died first. It's possible they were what caused the group to move, or maybe they were left there as they had no strength to go help / didn't want to leave the fire. Their burns are... from the fire. Desperate to get warm, they got too close, and/or got burned falling closeby after dying. The others then took their clothes in an attempt to increase their odds (so those 2 most likely died first). The 3 on the way back to the tent -- tried to get back for supplies, perhaps they were the strongest so thought they could make it, or just decided it's better odds than the shelter. Can't imagine what it would have been like potentially seeing your friend just collapsing and knowing you're at the end of your strength too. Last 4 in the shelter -- managed to find/create the shelter, but snow either fell on them from above (causing the injuries) or they fell a few metres into a ravine (possibly then also being crushed by snow). Their missing soft tissue/tongue/eyes are explained by scavengers and a close-by stream. The radiation is explained by their professions (either working at a nuclear plant, helping with fallout after a disaster) Other small injuries can be explained by debris from winds, small falls or slips, even a fight over disagreement on what to do or after blaming someone of the group that got scared and was the one that started the panic that got them all to abandon the tent. The man with the bitten knuckle probably did it in a desperate attempt to try and stay awake, knowing sleep means death. Tragic, but no need for anything supernatural. Perhaps we'll never know the exact details as to which event caused the panic, what they were thinking, why they split up, but that doesn't change the sad end-result. They struggled to survive, but either a series of mistakes/terrible luck caused their demise.
@sandrawatson-hr1cy7 ай бұрын
Greeeat comment,you do not need to assume this happened,this did happen Everything points towards your sensible conclusions(avalanche ). I cannot believe people have dragged this one out for over60 years.P.D.W.
@MinatheMenace2 жыл бұрын
Simon: "ghosts aren't real." Also Simon: "ahhh there are monsters in my office" 🤣 16:40
@ginashemeth77082 жыл бұрын
Simon,my dear, it was the Alien Lizard People setting off infrasound, and then an avalanche. 👽👽 Katy, fabulous script Jen, glad you came over to new channel ....Aliens!!👽👽👽👽👽
@jackandrews3692 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another Blaze Boy channel. Take my subscription.
@apebeats6631 Жыл бұрын
I prefer camping in the winter just so I don't have to worry about ticks, and/or mosquitos. A good sleeping bag, a well stoked fire, and a fine bottle of bourbon can make a cold night in the forest as cozy as any you'd spend at home.
@thatguy43118 ай бұрын
“Because I’m a big grown man and I can make my own decisions” - Simon whistler “Aaahh, my office is dark and there’s monsters” - also Simon, 5 minutes after stating he’s a big grown man 😂
@MarK-wh2oo2 жыл бұрын
(Russian here, living not too far from the area) To clarify some of the points you mentioned: 1. RADIATION. So annoying. 2 of the hikers were senior students of a radio engineering faculty, which, back in the day, included lab work with some radioactive substances. Another hiker worked at a Scientific Research Institute and worked to contain damage after the Radioactive Kyshtym catastrophe, which was, again, in the same state as they lived and hiked. Radiation levels and types on only three items of clothing were identified and pronounced at a natural level not dangerous to humans. They probably tested for radiation because the few states in the region were known to have radioactive spots. 2. Leader of the group. One thing people outside of Soviet Union don't realize, is how boyscout-like the Pioneer and Communist movements here were. The hiking was an officially organized tour by a city's sport club, and it was a very common thing all over the country, which is why the search in such a remote and wild area was organized relatively quickly. The official name of the incident is 'Death of Dyatlov's touristic group'. 3. In the report in Russian, it actually says that the deaths were caused by a force of nature - the weather was terrible, and the area they were walking through is known for avalanches, hurricanes, etc. Also, a very remote area with limited resources - including good medics. It's not like autopsy was done in Moscow, where docs are used to weird things, you know. 4. Again, Russian reports say that there were no injuries while they were alive. The official cause of death is hypothermia. 5. They died approximately on the 1-2 of February, the first bodies were found on the 25-27 of February, the rest were found in MAY, in a well-made snow cavern, 2.5 meters under the snow. They were found with the clothes that were cut off from the bodies that were found earlier, and were obviously trying to keep warm. 6. The lights were proven to be from the rocket launch testing sight, but it was really far away. 7. The 'KGB guy' was actually was supposed to go with a different hiking group from the same sports club, but changed to Dyatlov's as it was shorter. Aaand the rest is a mystery. We don't know why they suddenly left the camp without any supplies and went down the slope all together half-clothed. However, the tracks show that one person exited first, and then we have the rest - all 8 - walking slowly down the slope, some without shoes.
@piperjaycie2 жыл бұрын
The area was hit by Katabatic winds. The violence and sound these localised extreme weather phenomena would have had would have been enough to make them leave their tent.
@BryonStice2 жыл бұрын
"Welcome back to another episode" literally the first episode.
@that1nerdyblackgirl7362 жыл бұрын
Simon
@AlexandraKuznietsova2 жыл бұрын
that story is even crazier than you described, although the script is really really good, kudos to Katy. One of your most fascinating videos for sure, Simon
@Juliett-we7tc2 жыл бұрын
I have always been so intrigued about this case being I’m someone with “a few skills” who debunks on paranormal channels. I have my own theories on this case but there is so much “garbage” and misinformation circulated about it, some I may have not heard, that I’m so excited to hear what Simon thinks about it being as he approaches his cases, on his other channel I watch, with more of a logical and scientific mind and he has a very talented group of people working with him. All I can say is this is my first case I’ve watched on THIS new channel and I am so excited about it.
@craigcrawford67492 жыл бұрын
What skills do you possess?
@jakobkok96712 жыл бұрын
I really like the relaxing music in the background. It makes watching the video less paranoia inducing.
@Battle_Beard2 жыл бұрын
“…One theory to rule them all.” Yes Katy.. YES! Another writer slipping LOTR references between Simon’s ignorant lips.
@bowspritely2 жыл бұрын
I found this episode enjoyable and I’m super excited for this new channel. I had thought the Dyaltov Pass Incident was considered solved, AskAMortician did a video about it, but I saw it a while back so maybe I’m remembering wrong.
@katarzynamazurkiewicz60122 жыл бұрын
You're remembering correctly, it was most likely an avalanche and the snow model developed for Frozen has helped with establishing that (if I am, in turn, not mistaken)
@SirReptitious7 ай бұрын
For those who are into this story, there was an entertaining movie made about it, about 10 years ago. The writers didn't use any of the ideas talked about in YT videos. It's not a top 10 movie, but I found it to be an enjoyable watch. I can't remember if it was called Dyatlov Pass or something else.
@jonnyhe25592 жыл бұрын
Wake up baby, new simon whistler channel just droped
@mollybrown98572 жыл бұрын
Is Katy going to join Danny, Sam, and Callum in the basement now?
@dreamchaser95692 жыл бұрын
Only found this channel a few days and I'm not disappointed
@yeoldegunporn Жыл бұрын
The most recent solution is that the wind break they built for the tent actually caused a violent avalanche, but it’s hard to account for the fact they never went back to the tent. It’s speculated that at the time of the accident they only had 50ft visibility and in that cold of temperatures your mind doesn’t work as good. I always wondered of it wasn’t something similar to the Lia radiological accident but I think these people would have been familiar with radiation so maybe not.
@dannieandrews2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think this was a case of multiple things happening that brought about the weird conditions the bodies were found in. I think there was a good chance there was some sort of avalanch, and they hurried out of the tent as quickly as possible, regardless of how much they were wearing at the time. I think in their haste to get out, they were split up, some heading towards the tree, others wound up near that cave/shelter thing. Any footprints they did leave in their escape from an avalanch would've probably been covered over. I reckon once the snow had stopped falling down the mountain, they tried to get back to the tent/one another. Those by the tree probably tried to light a fire. The burns could be explained by that. They got too close to it. The state of undress too, is definitely a hypothermia side effect (though I hadn't heard that about them taking clothes off their dead friends to try and keep warm before, that's sad but also would make sense). I once heard a retelling of this about the photographs of the orderly footprints but I think that's easily explainable. I reckon visibility would've been really bad after a sudden avalanch, and whoever had the camera was using the flash to light up the ground so they could potentially see either previous footprints so they could follow, or else to simply show a path for their friends to go along. Also the flash would've helped to try to signal to the others that might've gotten split up from them. It's truly a sad mystery, and with how the USSR was, even the most innocuous thing was hushed up and made to seem creepier than it really was, so unfortunately we will never know. I personally just think it was a tragic accident.
@katerrinah5442 Жыл бұрын
So the channel Ask a Mortician did a video about this a few months ago, and some computer modelling as shown most likely it was an avalanche. I definitely recommend it, it really demystifies the whole thing
@TTFerdinand Жыл бұрын
@@katerrinah5442 Except it wasn't an avalanche. The avalanche theory suggests that the horrific injuries four of the group members sustained was because of an avalanche hitting the tent. Injuries like crushed skulls, ribs and lungs, severe internal bleeding with probable death within 20 minutes, according to the official autopsy reports. The avalanche theory ignores the evidence that 1. No one had been dragged down the mountain and no blood trails (with these injuries you won't get up, you cough blood and slowly bleed to death), 2. The four had had time to collect clothes from their two dead comrades who had died of hypothermia next to the fire at the treeline, and had also managed to dig a snow shelter further down, 3. The four were found furthest from the tent, in a ravine next to said snow shelter, and that falling into that ravine in the pitch black explains all their injuries by itself. Yes, even the missing tongue and eyeballs. If you fall from a height and hit a rock head-first, it is likely that you bite off your tongue and your eyes will pop out.
@glendabarton1914 Жыл бұрын
They lined the coffins with zinc protection from radiation.
@geodkyt2 жыл бұрын
Rib damage would explain the one body with a "deformed" neck - pneumothorax from a lung puncture will cause the trachea to shift as the lung gets squashed by air leaking out of the lung and into the body cavity. Basically, since the lung gets deformed, it drags the trachea to one side as the end that is attached to the lung moves over.
@ileaird9 күн бұрын
Can never give you less than 5 stars man! Your videos are the best to listen to before bed
@blaznskais20482 жыл бұрын
The struck by lightning theory could definitely have caused some of the injuries. My Stepdad got struck by lighting and it cause him to seize hard enough to break his leg. More likely than not it was a culmination of things, all of which we’ll never know, that caused their deaths. Some of them most likely did die of hypothermia and exposure. The eyes and tongues missing was most likely caused by animal savaging not an attack. As for the autopsy stating cause of death as “an overwhelming force” that’s not conspiracy, that’s them saying “🤷♀️ yeah sorry, idk what killed them”. Which honestly makes sense. If you have a body with lots of blunt force trauma but also signs of hypothermia the question for the person conducting the autopsy is only how did this person die and with all the injuries it was probably impossible to determine if it was the injuries or the cold that ultimately killed them.
@djhvac59382 жыл бұрын
Yet another channel dedicated to Simon's mad meandering mind. I absolutely love it!
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
Another channel with personality, looks like Danny, Sam, Callum, and Jen get more company in the basement
@emlenemc2 жыл бұрын
ive watched many videos on this topic and this is the best one i have seen. No drama or crazy theorys, and the most detailed report i have heard!! Yall are great!!!
@n0pe213 Жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn’t get too lost. I am an avalanche professional, I teach people about avalanches and guide people through avalanche terrain and dig up people who die in avalanches. A Reddit post brought me here. I posted this on that thread. I used the mapping software Caltopo to look at Dyatlov pass and Kholat Syakhl, the mountain they were supposed to be climbing. Using Caltopo’s slope angle shading (pulls data from LiDAR or calculations based off elevation data) I can only see a small, isolated area which could produce what I assume could only be a relatively small avalanche. I’m looking at a portion on the SE facing slope just below the summit. We would call this a “start zone”. This is the only terrain on that mountain (based on my data) that could produce an avalanche, which requires a slope angle of 30-45°. The entire area is only 1500x700 ft, the actual area which could produce an avalanche could be smaller but it’s difficult to tell. Using global imagery you can see that there is no damage to the vegetation at or below tree line. This indicates no defined avalanche path, paths that slide frequently and with destructive avalanches are often void of trees and large vegetation. So this suggests there have been no avalanches that started in that area and reached tree line in at least the past couple hundred years. Kholat Syakhl seems to be positioned pretty much in the middle of Ukraine, far from the coasts. This most likely means the snowpack is what we call a “continental snowpack”. Continental snowpacks produce conditions that allow for large, destructive slab avalanches that can be triggered from thousands of feet away. In conclusion/TLDR,I assume the snowpack for this area has the conditions to produce large destructive avalanches. However, I do not believe that the terrain in the area could produce a large avalanche that they would be able to hear or would produce the injuries seen. Furthermore, they would have to be in a very specific place above tree line for any sort of avalanche to hit them, and while it could be large enough to kill them, the conditions would have to be juuuuust right for something large enough. The terrain is just not big enough to produce a large avalanche.
@RosinaEmilyW2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else laugh about the cheeky noise and tent wiggling at “pitch their tent”. Please tell me I’m not the only one… 😅😆
@LostSoulsParadoxicalDoctrine2 жыл бұрын
Simon should advertise to schools, using KZfaq statistics as validation for "retaining attention of students". Teachers could create playlists for the students, and have that be the equivalence of homework. Some of Simon's episodes might need to be cut for content, as some may find his personal takes on subjects too lax. But personally I find it as part of the hook!
@domtanko71602 жыл бұрын
I didn't like the Beatles and I don't like him................
@LostSoulsParadoxicalDoctrine2 жыл бұрын
@@domtanko7160 like, dislike... it's all preference & opinion. I'd prefer to be back in school, but it probably isn't possible for me to... so I've adapted and look for "learning" in different ways. Lol
@crimsonguy86962 ай бұрын
The radiation can be explained by two members of the party having worked in facilities exposed to it, and without having proper decon procedures. Here's the possibility to my mind: A minor, rare avalanche for the area causes the evacuation of the tent. The party makes a fire at the "cedar", but split into three groups of three after. A group to raid the partially covered tent for supplies, one to stay and maintain the fire, and another to begin work on another shelter. While separated, a bout of harsh winds delt out various injuries, leading to exhaustion, and succumbing to the elements bit by bit. If course this is still an imperfect explanation.
@MrBellybuton2 жыл бұрын
Yessss I've been hoping you would make some longer podcast like episodes, I am watching the video rn and can't wait.
@Contact_wait_out2 жыл бұрын
While I’m all for the Soviet aliens murder theory it just strikes me as a series of unfortunate events that can all be relatively easily explained. Something (be it a large animal, avalanche etc) that we’ll never be able to confirm forced them to quickly leave camp. They then began to succumb to the elements one by one, the burns are just from the fire they found next to those two chaps. In late stage hypothermia it kills the nerves in your extremities as the soft tissue begins to die meaning they won’t have felt their flesh burning in their attempts to warm up. Falls, post mortem animal feeding and natural decomposition explain the rest. But people love a good mystery so fuck it, I’m throwing my lot in with those pesky aliens.
@QuantumBoogaloo2 жыл бұрын
What gets me is that the left the tent quickly, but then they walked calmly or something. So weird.
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
My hangup is the same thing Simon has trouble with, the radioactive clothing
@QuantumBoogaloo2 жыл бұрын
@@aceundead4750 I thought at the beginning it said that one of them was literally a student working in a lab dealing with radiation or whatever. No surprise at all to me that there would be trace amounts staying on their clothes.
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumBoogaloo i'll have to go back and relisten
@aceundead47502 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumBoogaloo didnt have to go back. He restated that one dude worked at one of the cleanup sites, and then also trekked around a radioactive area with another of the hikers, something no other source iv ever found had stated.
@prasselboll2 жыл бұрын
Jen did an awesome job on this one
@ghostratsarah2 жыл бұрын
This case and the Elisa Lam case are my biggest peeves. Covering these can be a quick way to lose all my respect for an 'unsolved mystery' or 'facts' channel. You guys always do a great job, though. I mean, Simon figured out the radiation on his own. This is why I love you guys.
@SewerRatsarepeopletoo11 ай бұрын
Yeah I mean it's not like Elisa Lam wasn't being treated for Bipolar Disorder... and was displaying clear signs of a psychotic episode.
@SkylerB172 жыл бұрын
HOW MANY CHANNELS DO YOU HAVE?!?!?!? ive never seen a youtuber with more channels. my god man. this guy must have more time available to him in a day than anyone else.
@lealta14812 жыл бұрын
Simon is going to do Make Up Tutorials next
@mrjones27212 жыл бұрын
Or ASMR.
@alexjacobsen84872 жыл бұрын
“I’m sorry for the mispronunciations but I’m too lazy to look them up” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ReginaCantet2 жыл бұрын
Ask A Mortician did a video on this within the last year that swayed me from the mania theory to the avalanche theory. Hypothermia can cause paradoxical undressing. Radiation is from the lanterns or prior exposure. Flesh/eyes/tongue missing is animals scavenging the corpses. Burns are from them getting too close to the fire because their nerves are numb from cold and they can't feel that they're burning themselves. The crush/beating injuries are just from the avalanche. The tent being cut from inside is them trying to get out before being completely buried. Some of the hikers were hit by the avalanche while others managed to avoid too many injuries and then tried to get back to the camp but died in the cold after possibly getting lost. This is the theory that makes the most sense to me.
@rome8180 Жыл бұрын
I doubt the radiation happened onsite. Several of them could have low levels of radiation from the Khystym disaster. For all we know that was typical of everyone who lived in their region, but the hikers just happened to be tested for radiation because of the investigation. The Soviet government probably wasn't testing ordinary people as a matter of course.
@christyfreeman58582 жыл бұрын
Lol Simon and the supernatural 😂 this should be ... AMAZING Haha. Also that's what 12 channels or something now? 🤔 dose anyone know if Simon qualifies as having the most active channel yet?
@OllieNorthover2 жыл бұрын
This is my all time favourite mystery. I don't think the causes of death are particularly strange, they were all out in like -30 degrees weather in basically pyjamas and socks, no one would last very long like that. And the last 3 to be found, next to the stream, who had the severe crush injuries, probably dug a snow shelter which then collapsed onto them. What is confusing is what drove these experienced hikers out of their tent and into basically certain death. I just can't understand the avalanche theory. Surely if there was a powerful enough avalanche to scare them so much they cut their way out rather than open the door and don't even grab snow boots then the tent would have been damaged or collapsed, items inside would be pushed around and disarranged, and the tent would be a least partially covered in snow. Especially if there was a slab avalanche as the prevailing current theory suggests. Also it seems highly unlikely that the hikers would exit the tent and then walk 1 - 2 km (1.5ish miles) away from their tent and ALL their equipment unless there was serious immediate danger, you'd think they would try to stay as close as possible so as to be able to retrieve their gear asap. These were very experienced hikers, they would know their time was extremely limited without proper clothing. But if there was that much danger from avalanche surely there would be some sort of evidence, such as the tent? If anyone can explain how this avalanche theory accounts for this that would be great. Because I'm tired of seeing videos claiming the mystery has been solved. (Obviously not this one, this one was great.)
@Chris-jw8vm Жыл бұрын
Wonder if it might of been drugs. Groups of people on the same drugs can sometimes come up with paranoid fears that feed into eachother until the whole group is hysteric.
@Craft-oh7uv Жыл бұрын
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to by western spy’s, the deep chest depression was the result of a military vehicle with tracks slow crushing him. Most if not all were tortured before death.
@dragonback6075 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting as always Sir 👏👏👏👏👏 Must admit this particular mystery is one of my favorites. Due to the film of the same name (post below)
@tedvanmatje2 жыл бұрын
Aliens? The Yeti? No....it was the former favourites of young children and squaddies - the Teletubbies. Although, I find it hard to believe that either Tinkywinky, Dipsy, Lala or Po would eat eyeballs and Tongue.
@ItsAsparageese2 жыл бұрын
I'm an avid fan, I have notifications on for most of your channels, I was one of the people commenting on Casual Criminalist in support of you discussing this topic ... So I'm a weird mix right now of ecstatic that you're doing it and especially giving it such a deep dive, and offended at KZfaq/the algorithm gods that somehow I got the memo a few days late! XD I think creating a new channel for this niche is a smart move. I'd be thrilled if you also release this channel in podcast form (if you are and I just missed the memo then my bad). I listen to CC on Player FM and it's really enjoyable. Keep up the great work you legend!
@blackc14792 жыл бұрын
"A wild wolverine maybe, leaps out and attacks" "Hey bub, this is my pass" *snickt*....carnage ensues. Sounds legit to me.
@sabrinaschell49382 жыл бұрын
A *radioactive* wild wolverine
@zzzyxwv2 жыл бұрын
They found their footsteps in the snow but no other … a flying yeti? That’s new🤘
@Col_Fragg2 жыл бұрын
How would they even know that the clothes were radioactive? In 2022, we don't find dead hikers and think, "Well, we better check them for radiation. You never know...."
@lukastewart11922 жыл бұрын
Ah yes welcome back to the first video, definitely never seen this fact boy before.
@nickdaveNDM2 жыл бұрын
Burned feet - they left without their snow boots, the ones with burned feet had made a fire. They tried to stop frostbite and that's how they burned their feet Missing eyes and tongue - the autopsies did not say the tongue or eyes were lost during trauma. They are external soft tissue, they are not unlikely to be the first things to rot or to he taken by rodents as they present the least resistance, this is not uncommon. They were likely lost from decomposition. I mean one of their hands and feet was already decomposing away, why wouldn't the eyes and tongue be decomposed Major injuries - yall ruled out the animal attack, and only mentioned wolverines - this is stupid. Bears can do that type of damage easily, "hit with the force of a car." Or with the force of a very hungry angry bear. Or an avalanche could have done all of that. Radiation - three of them worked around radiation, two of them regularly. Also Simon says there were very high amounts of radiation - amounts were not all that high - definitely high enough that it wasn't an anomalous amount, but not very high as he said.
@jinxedsphinx36002 жыл бұрын
why wouldn’t the bear eat them, then? Also don’t bears hibernate in the winter?
@mookinbabysealfurmittens2 жыл бұрын
All sorted, minus the bear. Why would a bear take on *9* people? (It wouldn't.) I just started, but the reason... It was an avalanche. 👉Ask A Mortician! She did a fantastic job. As ever. Simon, let's see what ya got! ;) ...JK! He's lovely.
@hibaakaiko38887 ай бұрын
-14°f isn't cold to people who live in that area (or in alaska). We had a fire drill in gym class once and had to go outside in shorts and t-shirts in -20°f and we were just fine as long as we were in the sun. Weird, i know, but you just get used to the cold.
@bluestrife28 Жыл бұрын
I been up all night so I swore you said “I’m Neil Simon” which totally fit with your humor. 😂