Yeah me too

Thank god that didn't have feelings

Wow, what if he had a cookie similar to the ones in White Christmas? With the same body and consciousness Ash would be immortal.

@@rumudinc3057 I'm surprised they didn't make an episode about it...

Alison It would be similar to altered carbon, only the sleeve wouldn't be human.

pragmaticpolitics lol he had to marinate

Lol yes

Ommmgggg I was in class watching this and I literally had to walk out and get fresh air, you never know what might come from these episodes 😂

And when she asks him to hit her ahahaha

@@otakumultifandom bruh i thought he was going to freak out and fight her. Hahahaha that wouldve made the episode even more insane than it already is

Agreed. Sara was so forceful. She didn't even give her time to recover from her trauma, and she keeps insisting for her to try it. And even if she denied, she still signed Martha up. That's just sick and pressuring.

@@illythewisp i was furious throughout the whole episode because of this. She really had the audacity to force a false copy of her dead partner upon her friend to fill the void, basically taking her chance to cope with his death properly. It was just sickening.

but deaht isnt the final destinatio nits just transition point you know

@@illythewisp Peer pressure cancel culture needs to be stopped

@@nonamepasserbya6658 yes

or even combine this with the cookies and anyone can have an immortal robot body

As humans we evolve daily. Were more than just memories and a thought program. We are capable of new thoughts and emotions because of our relationships. Something machines can't emulate

Chip olocios robots will be able to within the next ten years or so, without a doubt

Ez4 Ed false. A program cannot create true spontaneity. Even if programmed to be spontaneous, is just an oxymoron

@@kevinfazal6241 Well said!

Just like his mom did with the pictures, black mirror always does this kind of foreshadowing .

@@deadshot0908 omg i just realized.... crazy

The entire Episode was uncomfortable for me 😨

@@deadshot0908 whoa!!! thanks now i got it

she should've pushed the ai from the cliff

Dentally Challenged mine would be a barely functioning toaster

Lmao I barely have one. Hahah Mine would just be complaining and sounding unimpressed ahha

Tasha Monique I can vouch for that

Same

@@rin8761 yours would probably say things like "Same"

I agree, you have two amazing actor onscreen

Lol yeah never mind I finished the video. I really thought I caught something no one did

@@ellainamason i didn’t catch it though

I only caught it the second time when I rewatched it :')

That would actually be really cool. I liked this episode too though. Honestly that's a really good idea, pretty much worthy of the show.

I was expecting the same, but doesn't disappointed me, I almost clapped at final.

I believe you're alluding to the plot device in Shut Up and Dance. The point of this one is that if you want to recreate someone artificially you need to have a lot more data, and it has to be accurate. Otherwise you are sure to disappoint your partner (or purchaser).

well, I think the android database was based on Ash's online persona and activities on social media (mentioned by Martha's friend), so probably the AI didn't have any memory of something like dark secrets, cause Ash hasn't shared them online before.

People would then complain that it wouldnt be realistic, if he did some dark stuff, as company would probably restrict robot from copying dangerous behaviours. I like it much more the way they potrayed it in the show. You subconciously think he will rebel like some terminator, like a feeling being, but no... He is nothing like living thing. That is what makes her in the end hate him - his inability to fully copy emotions like fear, hatred, that would make his reactions to her responses much more human. He is just too nice, unlike any living human. He doesnt have any bad emotions unless she wishes him to mimick them, which is unnatural.

Jess T. It was ready to kill itself just cause she said so and only started showing fear when she told it to. It’s not a cookie. It feels nothing. No point feeling sympathy for it.

@@joshuaokparaocha331 I see your point there though I wouldn't make it that easy on myself. It's a complex topic and the real question is if the algorithmic structure of the android is excluding the possibility that it is able to develop self-reliant feelings that don't match a specific coded chain of command. As long as this option is not eliminated - and the episode doesn't do that - there is indeed reason to have sympathy for the android and consider it as more than a simple machine. The actual issue is that Atwell's character *wants* it to be Ash himself which is obviously not possible.

It was a machine. It didn't have any feelings since it was just reproducing what he found on files. It just took commands and executed them.

The episode is heartbreaking because of what she went trough. The robot has no interests or feelings. He is more like a cool app or a very expensive sex toy.

I don't feel bad because it was not a human. Just because it mimicked a human, doesn't make it one. Like the episode showed, the robot looked like Ash but had no history, no emotions like fear, anger, ego, etc. Things that make organism sentient. It was just approximating something that Ash would do. It wasn't even doing that properly since the data it had to base it's approximation on was limited by what self flattering posts Ash put up on his Facebook(?) profile. So it was only mimicking something that Ash thought he was.

Totally! People keep the ashes becouse of their loved ones, you have them but not in the same way it used to be and could never fill the void, just like robot Ash to Martha

You know I thought of that - how people keep the ashes of their deceased loved ones and eventually feel such a release, when they spread the ashes. And you just reminded me of Ash's literal name. Nice metaphor.

Could the name Marta = martyr, ie. Martyr to his memory?

OMG HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT

Plus, we carry the ashes around, being walking tombs. I know I have 5 pets cremated and plan to take 3 with me wherever I move next. They’re the ashes you carry, but here, the weight is clearly beyond too much.

Awesome actress, she perfected that role.

@@eoinsmith1996 True! Her expression of frustration near the end in the scene of the cliff was so heartbreaking. Especially that scream. Moved me to the edge of tears.

Hayley is the best

Yeah, the other episode where the lawyer got cheated by his wife, he deserves someone like her

@@loubloom8370 liam :'( ruck Fi

Sasha TMP AJDBQJSBWHSHHAQHHD NOOO

🤣

Cause suicide is funny right?

@@dare_he_is let people be. If they want to express their feelings, even in a funny way, let them do it. It's not good to make fun of someone or turn someone ELSE's suicidal tendencies into a joke, however, it's different when it's you. A person has every right to poke fun of themselves, or find things in their life funny. Chill.

@@dare_he_is no, but a lot of the times suicidal people like to make jokes about it.

@Chet Ripley so are weddings

You are free to choose cremation or pick an inexpensive casket, if you get a funeral director trying to sell you a paragon mahogany, then you should leave. Most people who want the expensive pristine caskets already walk in wanting it.

@@brandy1185 Both you and OP are right in a way You're right that it isn't really a "taking advantage of people" as much as it is taking advantage of an existing market He's also right in the sense that people will defend this practice as honorary and that trying to abolish it is disrespectful to the dead and they might even claim it as a "sign of a decaying society" when in reality it's really unnecessary and doesn't really honour the dead, you honour them by doing stuff like achieving what they wanted you to do, or preserving the good things that they left behind etc. You know... actual meaningful stuff

@Personal Jesus my mum just told me to put her body in the bin! Though that'd be difficult as the new outdoor refuse bins have now become smaller

@@totalwartimelapses6359 I agree completely. I definitely don't think it should be so expensive. My mum is now paying a bomb to the vets for both vet bills, the cremation of our dog and the urn! It's crazy.

She knows it's a robot, the daughter mentioned to him when she was in the attic that she KNOWS he doesn't eat, but she brought up an extra slice of cake so she could eat it herself. Which I think is way more realistic for the mother's character to be upfront about it since she had to come to terms herself in the end, she definitely told her daughter that he's not human. But she has to cope with the fact that he will never truly be her father.

She knows it is not her dad. He's kind of like an elaborate memento of him, an upgrade from merely photo albums and CDs and internet videos.

Whoa and then the android Ash and Martha could be together! It would be a boring relationship but also kind of cute in a way.

Idk. I'm a widow, he died not long before this episode , the waste be with the teddy if a dead mom were shown. Sounds weird but it helped me stop pointlessly wishing I could get him back somehow. I was in hell but bad as him being gone is, I can't think of anything worse than a fake replacement bit I know well meaning people who haven't gone through it would think it comforting, they don't need robots to assume that "this will make it better" If she wants to remarry... Honestly. Most of us who had a happy marriage don't " want" to. I know people do remarry after being widowed but many don't. Idk - the way you don't always "want" a new car because you like the one you have had for ten years. Then out of your control, the old car you loved got stolen. Some people might need to get a new one for work/shopping/ image and are happy with the new car, eventually even confess there's even certson things they like more about the new car. Or Or you might decide not bother because you don't care if people find it weird, walk to work and get stuff delivered because no matter how much they'd like to it not walk places in the snow or rain. They might try for a bit, then it's a daily reminder you didn't want it, feels uncomfortable, the noises are different and looks wrong parked in the garage.

Sounds cool lol HAHAHAHAHA

@@jairose6956 I am so sorry for your loss 🙏💕

@@jairose6956 you explained that very well. No one should go through what you went through.....

I hope you are doing well now.

@TRBW she meant he's no more

TRBW - that comment could be seen incredibly rude and insensitive, or just a funny light-hearted joke, but this is the internet after all.

@TRBW bruh

I hope you find peace and joy. You deserve it, you most definitely do. He’d want you to be happy.

I agree, it was so real and relatable

Agreed

losing

she loved real ash for everything he was ., even his 'imperfections' etc

@@issyyourboo2848 i wanna order one too! but it would need to be modelled on callum turner🤣😍😍🤣🤣

@@freddiemeyer4563 oh he's a whole meal that one

@@issyyourboo2848 I seriously doubt she ever had sex with it again after she stored him in the attic. The feelings of disappointment and regret would overwhelm him again. She only went to see it again when her daughter does, to simulate a reunited family. I doubt she ever even hugged and kissed it again.

@@issyyourboo2848 this episode is completly against superficiality

Me too 😢😢😢

I misread that as "this episode was so bad"

Crybaby asses grow up!

@@kevin1seven923 for real lol cry ass babies

@@kevin1seven923 it’s a women

Actually the software programmed his skin and everything in 2D as mentioned in the episode, so the robot could have programmed an ageing process

Great comment, couldn't agree more!

And especially if you upload lies about yourself.

That's a perfect analysis!!

...know for sure...

Also reminds me of the malevolent android passing itself off as human played by the late Ian Holm in Alien.

Creepy...

@@olivialew8175 shook me to my core

through

She found it awkward because he was a robot thing and she found it weird and didn't know how to handle it. Not sure it's the same as the awkwardness between people meeting face to face for the first time

I personally prefer face 2 face encounter... I'm more awkward over texts and calls

You didn't think Be Right Back was a good episode?!

@@user-rd6hw4mu7k I think a better way to put it is the explanation and analysis helped some of us understand the depth of messages in the story. Because of this analysis, I was able to appreciate how much genuineness the writers portrayed of Martha and Ash's real relationship and how the robot reflects only the social media and superficial being of a person. This in-depth analysis definitely helps us to see the smallest details and more underlying messages. :)

Well the society is not as advanced yet. No one seems to be wearing the machine from history of you. So it is likely we invented Robot humanoids before we learned to access the central nerve system through machines.

memories

I always wondered if the episodes in this series occurs in the same timeline/universe or not

@@Pieruh there’s references to past episodes, I just think they’re all in the same timeline but at different points of it if that makes sense

@@Pieruh I think the creator said that all the episodes are like somehow connected like some episodes like white bear is kind of connected to white christmas and there are like references to past episodes

Get the bestie who volunteers to watch it with you when you’re ready, if you ever are, to bring you comfort. Not the “bestie” who wants to shove it at you and watch it for their own amusement. No no, toxic shit goes in the trash keep walking. Good on you for knowing boundaries. Seriously, I can’t watch any stuff like this without my best friend w me and he’s straight up better than the worlds sweetest therapy dog, find you that loyal bestie who knows how to keep you calm happy and safe even in the worst scenarios. 💕💕💕

@@LuLu24Ayo you have no idea what this validation does for me ❤ I appreciate your kind words and luckily I do have that bestie in my life now 🥰

Women are too quick to call people bestie this and bestie that, this is why stuff like this happens, you need to learn how to get to know people gradually instead of just straight up being friends because they choose to show you a specific side of them.

@@Nikketmzee I understand what you are trying to say.. but I was friends with her for 4 years when she did this to me. We weren't "besties" outright. We became best friends over time. And then she started acting different (most likely due to the new relationship she was in at the time)

@@Nikketmzee also there is nothing wrong with becoming close to someone quickly, shit happens, it sucks, you learn and move on. It won't deter me from getting close to other people at any speed I choose. And I definitely don't think it's just a woman thing.. I know plenty of men who get close to new friends just as quickly. It's a generic human thing of wanting to be trusting and wanting to have people in their life. And sometimes it doesn't work out. Everyone is allowed to go at their own speed, and if slower works for you, that's okay! But don't make people feel guilty and say they were the problem cause they didn't get to know people the way you think everyone should. You never know what the actual circumstances are in anyone else's relationships

I know right, with ai and stuff

it's already a thing, there's a service that advertises AI use to replicate deceased loved ones

@@TypicalTip 💀💀

​@@TypicalTipwhere those AI called?

​@@TypicalTipchat gpt already can do. Combine it with robotics we will have perfect sex dolls in future 😍😍.

I get why he is an ex now.

Mate got out before it was too late

A reference to another black mirror chapter; aka metalhead

Ik! So cute🥰🥰🥰

Ana StaysGolden when it’s coming out?

@@Celestialmimi Yes

2019 for sure just but not sure what month so let’s hang in there !

Ana StaysGolden

@@anastaysgolden1406 5th of June

....of her life.

True. The phone Ash sounds smarter than the robo Ash.

Thank you Trash Goblin! That's really awesome to hear!

Angela. You are an angel

Me too!

i thought it would’ve got pushed off the cliff then when the daughter was all grown up he was gonna be there in her room or smtg secretly (without martha knowing) and kind of fucked up from falling from a cliff to the water 😭 if that makes sense

They weren't married

Awesome to hear!

I would have just made the most of having the android around and made him cook and clean for me and have the awesome sex if I was her. It could help through the grieving but not in the original way

What was the alternate ending

@Emily Barclay You've got me curious as well!

@@matchclock5 The proposed alternate ending that Brooker was contemplating, was for all of this to be a money-making scheme by the AI company. That they would keep "upping" the experience for an increased cost. I'm guessing that texting would be free at first, and then a per text charge. The phones could be a per minute charge and the physical doppleganger would have a maintenance fee. Brooker didn't say that specifically, but in an interview said that he wanted, " a point where she runs out of credit and has to top it up." Now that would have been more realistic to me because that's exactly what a company would do in real life. You can tell that Brooker was going down this path with some of the lines in the show... "I signed you up" and "it is a company providing this" and my favorite directly from Ash "It's a bit expensive, but" -- all of that fits in with the proposed alternate ending, while leaving him in the attic for all of eternity, falls a little flat. IMHO.

This doesn’t really have anything with what you said really but I’ve noticed that people seem to view happier or less sinister endings as lame or bad endings. I don’t think the message of some black mirror episodes always require a grim ending but rather opt for one because of human nature. Perhaps a theme to explore in a future episode 🤔. Again I’m not really responding to what you said about the ending but just something I’ve noticed in general

The old bait and hook!

Same! And thank you!