*last British Main Line steam locomotive

It wasn’t the last built it was one of the last batch

@@privatejoker5403 it was till Tornado was completed

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 no

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 this was much before tornado evening star was in the last batch They had to name one loco in that Batch they named 92220 not the true last one

Makes me wonder what would’ve happened if other railroads invested more money into the Decapod type.

Hey, on the bright side, at least she's still in serviceable condition as mentioned in the video, they could run her again at anytime

@@shanewalters4171 9Fs are banned from the National network due to the flangeless centre driving wheels. also 92220 hasn't been steamable since the 1980s

@@daverail01 Duchess of Hamilton also hasn't been steamed since the 80s yet there's plans to return her to working order. Also Evening Star can go to heritage railways so there's that

@@shanewalters4171 why she and not he?

@@TanVasinTrains all vehicles/ aircraft/vessels/locomotives are female unless specifically said otherwise. Like if it has a boy's name.

…Which isn’t a star at all; it’s Venus.

@@Daniel_Huffman. I forgot about that. My apologies.

@@TotoDG The symbolism is there more than you think. Venus, as the last object to disappear before the sun rises and the first to appear after the sun suns goes with this engine symbolizing the end of steam and the British Empire.

@@Daniel_Huffman the British Empire ended in 1997 tho ._.

^ It didn't "end" though. The UK still has enough Overseas Territories for the sun to never set on them all :P . (that; and the whole largest post-colonial union thing)

Britannia-class 7P: I am embarassment

" imma pull my express train now" "Dam,9F is better then me"

When Henry pulls the express better than Gordon.

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528”ohhh the indignity…” said Gordon.

Nobody asked, nor care about your low quality Indian trains

@@raphaelsmithwick4363 wow

Interesting. Thank you for sharing!

Nice information :)

What happened to it?

...and not one of them was built in order to be preserved.

Thomas actually visits the museum in one of Christopher Awdry's books, so Evening Star might have made an appearance. I know Mallard did, at least.

@@timesnewlogan2032 yes I’ve heard about the story Thomas and the Great Railway Show. The 2016 special the Great Race could’ve had a moment where the camera pans to the National Railway Museum where the engines residing there heard about the Sodor Engines’s success at the Great Railway Show!

The "Igor" one was meh.

Is rare to find a channel that produces quality videos without any unnecessary waffle. Too many channels churn out 15 minute videos because that is apparently what the algorithm wants, but only have a few minutes of actual useful content. This is a perfect example of producing videos that are short and get straight to the point, without endless rambling intros and contain just the right amount of detail.

@@the4tierbridge there aren't many cool videos that come my way about trains. At least informative videos. All of his videos are short and to the point.

@@411RangerFan The Igor one not only got several things wrong, it’s ignorant.

@@the4tierbridge so what did it get wrong and how did it come off as ignorant?

TF2?

@@411RangerFan Team Fortress 2,it's a video game

@@TankEngine75 thank you. I figured it was a game I just didn't know what it stood for. Unfortunately I've never played the game. But yes, he always does use fitting music

@@411RangerFan Your welcome

it was very strange the 1st time i played tf2 about a year and a half ago. hearing all those sounds and seeing all the characters made me think the game stole a bunch of stuff, turns out they all originated there lmao.

Those are great suggestions 👏🏼👍🏼

@@k-bot2.047 Thanks

How about Abraham Lincoln's Funeral Train? Halloween is approaching and American legend says Abe Lincoln's Funeral Train won't stay dead...

@@lukechristmas3951 Ghost stories I find interesting too.

A very interesting list!!! I would watch all of these eagerly!

@@medenicaribovski9089 lol

@@medenicaribovski9089 then there was trouble 😂

I hear you there. The PRR T1 is a perfect example of something that should've been preserved. ...although that said, the T1 Trust _is_ looking to put things right.

@@Dat-Mudkip also the NYC Hudsons

"Larger driver 4-8-2 passenger version of the 9F" How do you know this

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 I have a book detailing all the British pacific locomotives. This book contains a single page forward written by Robin Riddles in which he mentions the 4-8-2. This is the only reference I have seen regarding this locomotive.

@@denisxx61 ah,i see

'We were used to Merchant Navy and West Country class express locos but were gobsmacked at the size and powerful looks of the 9F' weird given that a Merchant Navy is larger than a 9f; -9f=66 feet long including tender/88 tons-loco only. -MN= 70 feet long including tender/94 tons-loco only.

I like your physics explanation and comparison. Gives me even more respect for the 9F's design.

@@althejazzman Thank you. They really deserved a longer time in service the early diesels could not match them.

Imagine taking a 9f and putting big wheels on it and getting it classified for mainline steam these days , it would run comfortably with current rolling stock

@@colinhoward74 They are banned from running on the main line now because of the middle axle having no flange on the wheels. If they could run they would still be able haul a fast express easily

They won’t just damage check rails, they’ll lift it clean off the track!

@@22pcirish I never heard of that happening. 251 of them ran quite safely over a period of many years. The unflanged centre driver was made to prevent the long wheelbase from derailing. They were not the only class to have flangeless centre drivers.

The8224sm. Unless they have changed the dimensions (and I suspect they did because of expected higher speeds that never really materialised) I always thought the blind centre driver myth was exactly that - aka bo11ocks. And even if it were true, I suspect a little ingenuity could entirely eliminate the problem. If the downward vertical movement was limited to a millimetre or so below the nominal rail crown, but all the upward vertical was allowed to make the engine ride properly, then what would the issue be? I always liked the 9F, even though they didn't really show up on the Southern where I live - I can't be certain I ever saw one until I saw 92240 at the Bluebell. Nevertheless, they were fabulous locos and I never understood why the whole class were not mechanically stoked? Surely an engine that powerful must be at the very limit of what a human fireman can sustain? Talking of power, I was in a KZfaq discussion about raw power around the time #4014 UP Big Boy was completed and back in steam. Of course, not unreasonably, #4014 is not only the largest steam loco ever built, but probably the most powerful.......depending on how you measure it. During the discussion, I did some back of the envelope calculations and discovered that not only has 71000 Duke of Gloucester actually proven it has a better power to weight ratio than #4014, but your 'average 9F has too! Given that the 4-8-8-4 is nearly two feet wider than either 71000 or 92240 (or any 9F) it is over a yard higher and weighs (I think) almost 560 long tons (with tender,) Three and a half times heavier than 'The Duke' and almost four times heavier than a 9F! Yes, a 9F is lighter than the Duke at about 142 tons vs 152 tons! I can't remember all the power numbers but using published drawbar figures and 71000's insane charge up Shap the last time she was out, I think it works out that Big Boy develops about 242bhp/ long ton ( yes, I know, we don't reckon steam locos like that, but the Americans do!) and 71000 and a 9F about 244bhp/long ton. They both have a tractive effort about the same - 39,000ft/lbs - with Big Boy about 139,000. Remember though; Big Boy is a four cylinder engine, 71000 is a three cylinder engine, while yer bog standard, common as muck 9F has only two.

@@rogerwhittle2078, while I doubt that you get better HP/ton out of a 9F than a 4000, I will agree that the 9F's represent the absolute best of British heavy freight development

@@rogerwhittle2078 good write - up / Its a GREAT Pity that 9 F 's are banned off the U.K Main line

Just because an engine wasn't designed for a certain job doesn't mean that it can't do a certain job. Take a look at the N&W J's, for example. They were relegated to freight service in their final years of operation, and they handled those trains with no problem.

It wouldn't be the first time a freight engine was capable on passenger trains. The Caledonian 812 class engines were built for fast goods, but did it so well they used them on boat trains as well. The Great Central J11 class were another 0-6-0 goods engine, and they apparently could keep to time on *express* *trains.* And don't forget the LSWR/SR S15 class.

Thats right, we won't bother to mention going over 90mph with little five foot diameter wheels.. Plus the 9f holds the record for the heaviest steam hauled train in Britain

@@p.istaker8862 I was just joking.

@@brenlc1412 So was I ( i am not an Anorak - `honestly)

@@p.istaker8862 Sorry I didn't understand.

Lol check out the channel good back flicks, you aren’t gonna like it 😂🤣🤪

Same

Never to be seen running on mainline British railways again

@@p.istaker8862 heritage railways exist so

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 What has that got to do with seeing Evening Star speeding along past Express trains? I didn't realise such trains exist on Heritage Railways. As far as i am aware, everything does 25mph.

Shame Network Rail wont clear 9F for running on some limited routes , its high check rails thats main problem I think 9F's did have poor RA when they ran on BR . My dad fired and later drove 9F's said they were very smooth running at speed Here is good 9F video working hard hauling 1000 ton kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKqRo72C1bDPZ4U.html

I was given a Hornby Evening Star model for Christmas many years ago. Does yours have the motor and drive in the tender? It picked up electricity from the wheels under the boiler and had rubber inserts on the tender drive wheels so it wouldn't slip. It sure could pull!

@@countOfHenneberg yeah, that’s what version I have

No,no. You just stated a fact

It's definitely not the last ever steam loco built in Britain. Just the last steam loco built by BR

There is one story in the US... UP844 returning from an excursion following a freight train. Said freight train ran out of power(one of the locomotive went bad) on an incline stopping everyone on the line. The 2nd freight train following 844 also showed up close to them. It was a true traffic jam. As the management tries to find a solution, a call from 844 crew came up. They could push the stuck train and providing brief power unto a siding. As the crew discuss it on the line, the team preps the 844 for pushing. They got the green and coupled the old steamer to the back of the freight. It was giving ample amount of power as it keeps wheel slipping while pushing the freight train up and on to the siding.

That IS Murdoch

No you're right the 9F was Murdochs exact basis.

@@xprojectsa3627 oh I'm glad...thank you

@@0_peach_0 if you’re a fan of ttte and this you should type “evening star character gallery” it’s going into her history and she could have felt throughout that time period .It’s a Thomas podcast for obscure characters.Have fun !

@@tanjoy0205 oh...that does sound interesting...I will check it out...thanks alot😁

it's such a great tune, really noticeable when you hear it somewhere

No shit Sherlock

@@TankEngine75 it was an question with an obvious answer: yes. can you please not say stuff like this

@@stationmasterkuma well yeah I was having a shitty day,sorry man

Same here, why do you think Evening Star’s in my profile picture?

There's a theory that the 9Fs could work well into the 80s,but considering how climate activists are...... Yeah it's complicated

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 I would have loved to see the 9Fs in full service into the 1980s. If that did happen, then they would've been the only operating commercial steam locomotives in operation in the free world. Communist countries were probably the only countries to still use and built steam locomotives for the remainder of the 20th Century.

@@lukechristmas3951 Turkey used 8f's into the 1980's. Didn't realise it was a Communist country.

Yes

Telenguard ruled!

Considering they're perfomance,yeah it's a fair statement

The German "Molli" also never retired, afaik :) Just names of the railroad changed due to history happening, but some locomotives are still in service today, with a regular schedule that is even listed in the app of the German railroad (Deutsche Bahn), going between Bad Doberan and Heiligendamm.

Oh and a couple (15-20?) of years ago, they even built(!) a new steam locomotive for that line from scratch, almost entirely accurate to the original blueprints, just making some adjustments for modern materials, production methods and safety.

You mean the only American steam locomotive.

It was the axle boxes that were the limit really. Brits had similar size bearings but much bigger wheels, hence they could run at high speed for longer.

@@VulcanBomberxm655 Yes, I agree, But what would they have been like with roller bearings on all axles, larger crank pins plus roller bearings on the motion too? As it was they could cope with just about any job that then existed on the mainline in the UK (plus many branchline turns too). Not bad for a heavy freight loco!