The Engineering Behind The World's Fastest Electric Vehicle

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Two Tesla powertrains installed in a car built over 60 years ago just went faster than any other electric vehicle. EV racing is starting to get really interesting.
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@drt1245
@drt1245 2 жыл бұрын
Nitpick: Aerodynamic drag is quadratic (squared), not exponential. There is 4x as much drag when going 2x as fast. Power needed to overcome aerodynamic drag is cubic. You need 8x as much power to go 2x as fast.
@jpkatz1435
@jpkatz1435 2 жыл бұрын
Not a "nitpick" very important for us non engineers, non math minds, to understand!! Thanks for adding this.
@laurean5998
@laurean5998 2 жыл бұрын
Came to look for this comment, I know almost everyone makes the mistake but at least engineers shoud try to do better
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk 2 жыл бұрын
Drag=1/2Rho *Cd *v^2 *s Why do you need 8x the power when drag only increased by 4x?
@drt1245
@drt1245 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-bg8mk Power = Force * Velocity
@duncanmartin2626
@duncanmartin2626 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-bg8mk Power = work /time Work = force * distance So Power = force * speed (and force is your aero drag calculation plus rolling resistance etc)
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 2 жыл бұрын
the badass part: this car started the record run on it's own with a 2:1 direct drive. nothing else but an EV can achieve that, the load must be insane.
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA 2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure gas turbines *can* do that, their torque graph looks very similar to electric motors...
@yankeedoodle7693
@yankeedoodle7693 2 жыл бұрын
@@AKAtheA a good example of misconceptions in EV dynamics
@Smidge204
@Smidge204 2 жыл бұрын
@@AKAtheA Gas turbines have a minimum speed they need to operate; if they're not spinning, they're not compressing air into the combustion chamber, there's no combustion, and there's no power. This is why such turbines aren't self-starting. The output torque curve of an electric motor goes all the way to 0 RPM, the torque curve of a gas turbine does not. The torque curve of a *steam* turbine, or some other type which has high pressure fluid being pushed through it from an external source, goes all the way to zero... but the curve for any Brayton-cycle turbine will not.
@yankeedoodle7693
@yankeedoodle7693 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smidge204 the gas generator and power turbine are separate stages on certain designs. You can stall the output shaft on a turboshaft engine
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smidge204 very few gas turbines have the LP turbine mechanically locked to the compressor and HP turbine. Because it's free to spin independent of the gas generator, it gives torque right from stall.
@kyleflowers2641
@kyleflowers2641 2 жыл бұрын
That was great. Can't believe a design so old is still leading the way.
@GingerNingerGames
@GingerNingerGames 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about computers is they do the same calculations we used to do with wood, they just do it faster.
@daos3300
@daos3300 2 жыл бұрын
aero could use a lot of work, could be much faster. but why build a new car when you already have one that's good enough.
@bertdemeulemeester
@bertdemeulemeester 2 жыл бұрын
Well those guys were something else back then. They did get a man on the moon on a pocketcalculator
@lorenzosguaitamatti
@lorenzosguaitamatti 2 жыл бұрын
Back then, they made a leap forward with electronic systems, to get the man to the moon. They could still use the same chassis and create a better bodywork. Maybe they are sticking to what they know and to what they tink is safe to drive, managing only one difference at time. Also budget could be a limit.
@JackMott
@JackMott 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzosguaitamatti It isn't immediately clear how to improve the body work. Maybe smaller front wheels and get rid of those ridges, but that could negatively impact rolling resistance. To improve for sure would require a lot of time field testing or time in a wind tunnel. both are expensive.
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d 2 жыл бұрын
In 63 years it will be fusion powered using banana peals!
@user-ue6rz9so4l
@user-ue6rz9so4l 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the algorithm, but I'm really impressed both by the video and the car
@thecatofnineswords
@thecatofnineswords 2 жыл бұрын
Trust the algorithm. It knows. All hail the algorithm
@CED99
@CED99 2 жыл бұрын
All Hail the algorithm
@MrGatlin98
@MrGatlin98 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who owns a 300w LED flashlight that puts out about 19,000 lumens, I can confirm that a 1000w flashlight would be insanely bright.
@DevReaper
@DevReaper Жыл бұрын
I own a flashlight with a “mere” 4200 lumens and it burned through my jacket pocket without even being on turbo.
@MrGatlin98
@MrGatlin98 Жыл бұрын
@@DevReaper Sounds like a D4V2 or similar light. Nice.
@DevReaper
@DevReaper Жыл бұрын
@@MrGatlin98 yep spot on D4V2 with SST-20 5000k leds
@ytdrachengame1157
@ytdrachengame1157 11 ай бұрын
The Imalent MS18 has a Peak power of round about 1000 watts. 🤟😎
@loneponderer495
@loneponderer495 6 ай бұрын
I hate to be that guy, but it's kWh not w. Yep, I'm here to ruin your joke. 😂
@stuartstephens
@stuartstephens 2 жыл бұрын
The Vesco family are legends in land speed racing - it's cool to see that still running and setting records.
@rdaw33
@rdaw33 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if this is the family that once included "Don Vesco", who I saw run there in 1976 running as I remember two road racing two stroke engines?.......
@rdaw33
@rdaw33 Жыл бұрын
Almost forgot, it was a two wheeled motorcycle.
@greggbrooks6086
@greggbrooks6086 Жыл бұрын
@@rdaw33 Yes , Don Vesco Yamaha in El Cajon Calif. I raced motocross for them in the mid 70's.
@katywalker8322
@katywalker8322 2 жыл бұрын
All hail the bald tyre
@sheanyquist
@sheanyquist 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the engineering that goes into landspeed racing!!!!!
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I am curious if the engineers working on the fastest electric car will do a solid oxide fuel cell (SOFC) run. Those could run on kerosene or ethanol, and output megawatts. If using e-kerosene (produced using renewable electricity, developed by Siemens), we would have the fastest green car in the world. :)
@sheanyquist
@sheanyquist Жыл бұрын
@@thatguyalex2835 the engineer working on the fastest electric motorcycle is not doing that. 😉
@TheSnivilous
@TheSnivilous 2 жыл бұрын
Something about your videos is just perfect. Entertaining and technical, one of my favorite channels. Maybe my favorite car channel. Maybe my favorite channel of them all.
@cellularmitosis2
@cellularmitosis2 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, he's definitely hit a sweet spot
@eduardomargutti
@eduardomargutti 2 жыл бұрын
If you're having trouble wrapping your head around the concept of putting 2 or more electric motors or any kind of motors together and getting them to work together and not against each other, just think about how the cylinders in a multi cylinder engine work together, there may be a slight mismatch in power between the cylinders and some percentage of "fighting". The average is a increase in power.
@nordic5490
@nordic5490 2 жыл бұрын
No. These motors are not coasting. If one motor outputs 5% more than the other that is not a big deal. Even a 20% difference is fine.
@EVLS10
@EVLS10 2 жыл бұрын
@@nordic5490 Not exactly. If they are putting out different levels of torque then that's perfectly fine. The issue at hand with syncing electric motors is frequency and speed. It is imperative that both inverters be driving the same frequency and thus speed to both of the motors. As long as they did the code right the first time then they are good. If they differ though. You get very large problems which results in massive motor/inverter strain in the form of excess current and heat buildup. This is why we use synchronization tech with our power grid to make sure the motors are spinning at the same speed and the phase angle is the same. One motor shooting for 5000 rpms and the other being slightly different will cause a ton of stress on both motors as both rotors are now fighting their perspective rotating magnetic fields because they are constrained together. The major benefit is that most inverters these days are smart enough to detect issues like this and avoid them or you can just run them in torque mode so that the frequency output is driven by the rotor speed alone.
@wolfgangschroeppel
@wolfgangschroeppel 2 жыл бұрын
@@geemee3364 Yes, but the control of both is Amps. So the "throttle" is controling the torque, not the speed. But yes, you need two seperate inverters to do that trick. What I don't get is what the belt is for. You could drive one wheel with each drive train without coupling the motors and without any differential.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangschroeppel How would that look like? Cross wind would be a problem with this idea: Two bikes next to each other, but staggered staggered. The motor for each wheel is in the other bike. Directly connected by 4 shafts. Pendulum axis like on a bug.
@BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left
@BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left 2 жыл бұрын
An inverter is simply a form of amplifier, it amplifies a signal. In a solar power system the signal is the frequency of the mains voltage required ie 50 or 60 Hz depending on your country. There seems to be no reason you couldn't use a single signal generator (speed controller) to control multiple inverters, in fact that is the way many multiple inverter systems work.
@joshuagies4900
@joshuagies4900 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Super cool to get some additional info about some of the "teething" problems the team had when going for the record and how they solved for them!
@TheUAVpilot
@TheUAVpilot 2 жыл бұрын
I wish more videos would explain the C ratings of the charge and discharge of batteries, this is just as important as capacity when it comes to performance.
@guily6669
@guily6669 2 жыл бұрын
I wish was that every god damn battery from every brand had C rating graphics as we have to search online for community tests to find out how good they are and most brands lie.
@Suchness2000
@Suchness2000 2 жыл бұрын
Capacitors will give more instant power than just batteries. Add lots of big capacitors along with batteries. Capacitors can deliver their charge faster than batteries.
@Martin_Speed
@Martin_Speed Жыл бұрын
@@Suchness2000 LTO is a better choice
@gabechiplin8140
@gabechiplin8140 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding tube Matt! Apart from the stuff already noted I loved the throttle with the toe clip to pull it up in case it sticks and one tyre down to the cords. Gold.
@nikovbn839
@nikovbn839 2 жыл бұрын
All hail passionate people
@JoelLackey
@JoelLackey 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love seeing the evolution of the channel.
@wabudo
@wabudo 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Matt! All hail the algorhitm!
@Adrianzx
@Adrianzx 2 жыл бұрын
The model b to model s joke made me laugh too hard
@JackalopeAutoClub
@JackalopeAutoClub 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing history in that car. Too cool.
@chrisestill8825
@chrisestill8825 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they have a chassis that old that is still holding up and laying down some record runs.
@DanielCooper1
@DanielCooper1 2 жыл бұрын
This was easily the best delivered explanation of how and why I've ever seen. Thanks Matt.
@monkeybarmonkeyman
@monkeybarmonkeyman 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely built video Matt. Thanks for it!!
@gsmdo8836
@gsmdo8836 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always Matt, many thanks 👍 First merch arrived yesterday in the UK (stickers) 😃
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list 2 жыл бұрын
2:54 love that ghost on the garage floor
@Papa-Bogey
@Papa-Bogey 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason to love SFM ... the science of speed explained in a way even I can understand. Thanks. “Omnes algorithmus salvete”
@mattvoce1091
@mattvoce1091 2 жыл бұрын
Well produced and informative. Great job mate.
@zacharynewton2361
@zacharynewton2361 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent story. Thank you for sharing the engineering details!
@TomChame
@TomChame 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks.
@CED99
@CED99 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Matt it's really really really good and both educational and entertaining
@mikkoperon9961
@mikkoperon9961 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is the most interesting and entertaining channel in KZfaq. It is always like christmas to notice there is a new episode available to watch!
@katanamd
@katanamd 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Thank you!
@coopkink
@coopkink 2 жыл бұрын
Entertained and learned a bit. Thanks for the video Matt!
@yoyodynepropulsion.systems
@yoyodynepropulsion.systems 2 жыл бұрын
You have the best content. I have yet to be disappointed.
@KyleSSamuelson
@KyleSSamuelson Жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video, well thought out, narrated well, visual aids etc.
@iwantoffroad
@iwantoffroad 2 жыл бұрын
love your content thanks for making this
@mitchamus
@mitchamus 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they are using a Fireboard BBQ temp monitor on the battery.. 6 probes sharing temp data via Bluetooth and wifi to the cloud… why wouldn’t you…
@reubenwrigley1121
@reubenwrigley1121 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I love your editing
@Equine_frederikke
@Equine_frederikke 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative video Matt!
@nordic5490
@nordic5490 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation
@foesfly3047
@foesfly3047 Жыл бұрын
Your content is ridiculously fascinating!
@marcofragoso9926
@marcofragoso9926 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your content!
@plinpain
@plinpain 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent little docu video. Well done.
@keithryan9314
@keithryan9314 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff mat. Can't wait to see the jag finally get finished and seeing the reactions 😇
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 2 жыл бұрын
The TGV uses electric motors and that managed 357mph (5mph faster than this) in 2007… Guess the diesel generators it uses to power it’s bogies kind of makes it a hybrid rather than a full electric record though.
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 2 жыл бұрын
Diesel-electric hybrid, not a battery-EV
@stonedmole2351
@stonedmole2351 2 жыл бұрын
The TGV is an all electric train
@niconico3907
@niconico3907 2 жыл бұрын
TGV has no diesel engine, it is powered by overhead powerlines, like in any civilised country.
@manuelmanterola7070
@manuelmanterola7070 2 жыл бұрын
great vids matt!
@michaelcunningham5748
@michaelcunningham5748 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best storylines you have published.
@Turbochargedtwelve
@Turbochargedtwelve 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a dedicated chassis is what they really need. Design if from the ground up to hold 4 or 6 battery packs and 4 motors and drivers. Land speed cars are weird in that they don’t care about weight or maneuverability so they could make it longer without much drag penalty to fit everything in.
@BuddyCorp
@BuddyCorp 2 жыл бұрын
Positive algorithm engagement comment! I like these short docos, you explain things well.
@ex-engineer6657
@ex-engineer6657 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@MasterofNoneTV
@MasterofNoneTV 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that about the hybrid batteries. Great info as usual.
@brianboni4876
@brianboni4876 2 жыл бұрын
That was good. The way you showed the rapid advances makes me confident they will beat the ice cars. If they only had room for a longer battery box they might have had the class record.
@sajidmonowar
@sajidmonowar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Bonneville seems like a cool place
@ComputerElectronicTechnology
@ComputerElectronicTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I was curious, and now I know!
@jpkatz1435
@jpkatz1435 2 жыл бұрын
SFM: You are a fabulous teacher, presenter, describer. You have a 76 year old Fan Boy here. THANKYOU.
@davidschmidt6013
@davidschmidt6013 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks!!
@sfefsew
@sfefsew 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Liked, commented, subscribed
@yodasbff3395
@yodasbff3395 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👍
@WowCreativeUsername
@WowCreativeUsername 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing pieces on Bonneville builds
@_Hanover_
@_Hanover_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love the landspeed videos! All hail the Algorithm!
@faithinverity8523
@faithinverity8523 Жыл бұрын
such a great story thank you
@nomimalone7520
@nomimalone7520 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the details. seeing that Tesla drivetrain I thought they had two motors/ rotors going there, but I didnt knew the other cylinder was just an inverter... :)
@NoorquackerInd
@NoorquackerInd 2 жыл бұрын
8:39 Dang, I need to step up my 100W LED flashlight with 9 more
@garypaisley
@garypaisley 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty frigging cool! Thanks!
@user-nh8rr7oi6l
@user-nh8rr7oi6l 9 ай бұрын
Gotta love the engineering that goes into landspeed racing!!!!!. Gotta love the engineering that goes into landspeed racing!!!!!.
@robertsavage7446
@robertsavage7446 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@Bravolvi
@Bravolvi 2 жыл бұрын
Always great videos. Hello from Brazil
@dbc105
@dbc105 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid, thanks Matt.
@mikeunsupervised9254
@mikeunsupervised9254 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Another LSR video and evidence that you've been reading the rule book... Matt's future project is aimed at breaking a record.
@Mike_Costello
@Mike_Costello 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as he fantasised, I mean hypothesised, putting four tesla motors in there I knew he is prepping an idea. Maybe a hyper-Honda on the way or a a Super Fast Mattster is in the works.
@KGopidas
@KGopidas 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible and enlightening, great wake up
@edrosa5079
@edrosa5079 2 жыл бұрын
Thats Cool Thanks Matt
@michaelpesce9235
@michaelpesce9235 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for sharing 😎😎😎
@VEDEMRACING99
@VEDEMRACING99 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how they designed that Belt drive system for the motors! Amazing that it can handle a thousand horsepower!
@oscarjeans4119
@oscarjeans4119 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could make some sort of supercap setup work? You would need tons of space but they would spit out as much power as you need
@jtveg
@jtveg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
@-MacCat-
@-MacCat- 2 жыл бұрын
All hail the algorithm! Thanks for this vid Matt.
@Tugmun11
@Tugmun11 2 жыл бұрын
Funn video thanks for sharinn great edit as well
@magnus.nasmark
@magnus.nasmark 2 жыл бұрын
All hail the algorithm. Those tires look super sketchy!
@jpkatz1435
@jpkatz1435 2 жыл бұрын
Go fast, use up tires.
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk 2 жыл бұрын
They are not sketchy until you can see the air inside.
@CED99
@CED99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-bg8mk you can see the canvas so there's probably a bit of air leaking out that you could detect [see]
@CaptainLila
@CaptainLila 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. A place I have always wanted to visit
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
Amazing those TESLA motors,AMAZING TECH
@Chainsaw-ASMR
@Chainsaw-ASMR 2 жыл бұрын
5:15 they're going to change those tires before the next run...right?
@cyjan3k823
@cyjan3k823 2 жыл бұрын
Thats kinda crazy that record was in hands of students
@Kergrist
@Kergrist Жыл бұрын
Fab vid! 👍👍
@jeremyhanna3852
@jeremyhanna3852 2 жыл бұрын
U forgot 1 ingredients in the recipe one giant set of balls to drive it
@johanfredin
@johanfredin 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know the continuos c-rating for the Honda cells?
@rosstisbury1626
@rosstisbury1626 2 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks
@nickrivera9455
@nickrivera9455 Жыл бұрын
I love the “0 - a lot” graph 😂
@_Schreintime
@_Schreintime 2 жыл бұрын
Quality video
@jamesdeath3477
@jamesdeath3477 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Fascinating.
@Boosted86
@Boosted86 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they gave no forethought to the discharge rate of the batteries, its literally one of the first considerations when choosing batteries for RC's
@steventrott8714
@steventrott8714 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone said you’re an awesome presenter yet? And this video was absolutely amazing.
@ejgrant5191
@ejgrant5191 Жыл бұрын
The Vesco's are a great family....When I raced Yamaha TZ motorcyles back in the late 70's early 80's they always seemed to have parts in stock for our bikes even when Yamaha USA had empty shelves....Bonneville Royalty right there👍
@mikecyanide7492
@mikecyanide7492 Жыл бұрын
Crazy idea incorporate the full body into the battery structure almost fully encasing the pilot. A massive weight reduction and with the battery as the body cooling would be more efficient
@johnfmoore1
@johnfmoore1 6 ай бұрын
Good video!
@4literv6
@4literv6 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, now how about that ev jag? 😁
@d.jerrycook2994
@d.jerrycook2994 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mentality-monster
@mentality-monster 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@DBFIU
@DBFIU Жыл бұрын
4 plaid motors would break the sound barrier. 🤩
@kevinpayne9001
@kevinpayne9001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt for another video full of facts and funny comments.
@125spectrum
@125spectrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. It deserves a "Clarkson", the award for a great motoring video. Thanks again. P
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