@YAJUN YUAN The Magisterium interprets Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture.

@YAJUN YUAN The Magisterium interprets both Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, guarding both as the deposit of faith.

@YAJUN YUAN bro, if you want to become Catholic, just go to RCIA. You’re in all these videos. It makes me think you secretly realize Catholicism is the real Church of Christ.

That’s in great part due to the explosion in population Asia has seen. Statistics require context.

@@POCCNRCKNbY Asia has nothing to do with the decline in western europe. As for Asia, there was an increase in the faith in China but u could not call it large. Vietnam's population doubled since the war but the faith remains as far as I know about ten percent. I think Africa accounts for the percentage remaining large but their has been a slip in both real and per capita members globaly.

Yeah but the church is growing in other parts of the world, like Africa. But I wouldn’t say all of Europe has fallen away. I traveled through parts of Spain and Portugal and found there are still many good religious people there. I enjoyed praying with them in Fatima.

Like what? Pray tell. What are they saying that you think it’s valid?

@@ntmn8444 What is valid about the Vatican II Sect counterfeit church and new religion?

​@@francisgilson4429no literraly read cathecism of St Pius X WHICH you guys use thesis 171 first Part, we litterraly use the same faith, we litterraly just did vatican II because of you, ehontried tonforce baptize adult Jews, historically you guys ARE thr apostates, tridentine mass ended because of YOU and your apostate priests

Yes because it is seen as a form of Schismaticism like the Orthodox

I do pal.

Check mate.

If they abstane from the Eucharist and believe there are no valid bishops or preists they probably are.

Spiritually Yes, if they have sincere faith, thats in St Pius X cathecism 171 first part, but in all honesty people with hate for faith, will go to hell, so yeah sedevacantists will most likely because they lie about Catholic church intentionally to get more sedevacantists. Are going to hell, you guys are litterraly ruining the church, reform ir from the inside not outside

@@TheDroc1990 Heresy has the equivalence to apostasy. Rejecting a dogma obstinately is the same as rejecting the whole faith. See satis cognitum by Pope Leo XIII.

ie. vatican2protestant kabbalist antichrist antipopes and antibishops...

@@TheDroc1990 You silly vatican2protestant kabbalist fool, The Catholic Deposit of Faith: Catholic Tradition, The Catholic Bible, and The Authoritative Magisterium, are what give me and the rest of The Catholic militant remnant, who correctly holds the sedevacantist position have such Authority, and just as Commanded. Wanna Debate The Matter? *vatican2protestant kabbalist and protestants in general are so easy to refute and rebuke but too spiritually blind and wilfully ignorant to realize it or admit it. Schism, Heresy *[even just one],* and Apostasy sever one from The Catholic Church, either by word or action, whether by declaration or ipso-facto excommunicated. Wake up sleeple! Kyrie Eleison 😔

@@markmead6742 My friend, I am sedevacantist as well, but I must advise you that your tone is not very charitable nor conducive to the conversion of others. There's a lot of context that people who are new to sedevacantism would be missing by reading your comment, and this can potentially scandalize. God Bless you.

@@admaioremdeigloriam2466 . Everyone that I speak with, that holds your tone are heretics, and in charity I tell you that, so that you can correct your errors, and liberalism. No, doubt you are a false sedevacantist, but rather a heretic. Let's see, shall we? Likely you REJECT The Papacy, which is not the same as the sedevacantist position. And Do you buy into any, or all of the 6 basic Modernists heresies? ...namely: 1) faith alone 2) baptism of desire 3) baptism of blood 4) invincible ignorance 5) NFP 'natural' family planning And/Or 6) salvation outside of The One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church? Dollars to Donuts you will be transparent, and as I have indicated, just from what you have initially said already, just a few minutes ago. BTW, in charity, I offer this Refutation and Sharp Prudent Rebuke. *vatican2protestant kabbalist, FALSE traditionalist, eastern "orthodox", and protestants in general are so easy to refute and rebuke but too spiritually blind and wilfully ignorant to realize it or admit it.* Any Questions? Kyrie Eleison 😔

That didn't save the pope from heresy!

@@deusvult2302 as you judge, so shall you be judged. Are you sure you know what you're talking about when you accuse someone who I very much doubt you've ever even met of something as serious as heresy? You aren't impressing anyone with your anonymous online denunciation, so for the sake of your own soul pump the brakes, ok?

Exactly, that's why the Pope CAN'T be an heretic, and it's not the only verse that could add a layer to your point, however, the actual said "pope" IS heretic. Thus, he can't be the pope Now remember the saints are still living through beatific vision, and guess what, Pie XII, the last true pope, might be a saint Now you know that's just a hypothesis after all, I can say that I often doubt about my position, but I'd be doubting way more if I was endorsing VII and it's said popes

@@nielsoconnel5136 Assuming you're sedevacantist, there's nothing to doubt, my friend. Sedevacantism may, most certainly, lead one into *mystery* (that is, we won't necessarily be able to understand how something is possible. Think, ordinary jursidiction, visibility, etc.), but it will never lead us into ERROR, as it is founded on Catholic theological principles. In that sense, sedevacantism is entirely *theologically safe* . Even if we were to be wrong, we don't (at least you should not) hold the position out of ill will, and thus cannot be classified as schismatics just as those who objectively sided with the wrong pope during the Great Western Schism could not be called schismatics either (for, though they were objectively wrong in believing a claimant to be pope, they did not hold their position out of an ill desire of resisting lawful authority). Moreover, if Vatican II really is orthodox, and the conciliar hierarchy and popes are not modernists, but actually Catholic, given their whole theology on the salvation of those in false sects, remarks such as Francis to the atheist man's son, etc. can we really expect damnation should we be objectively wrong in our rejection of the post-conciliar sect given that we accept the whole of Catholic teaching, and *for that reason* reject the post-conciliar sect? It is for this reason that my conscience is clear and I am confident in sedevacantism. God Bless you, my friend.

From the way the pope says mass to the satanic symbols and pillers where he says mass from it is more than obvious he is not a true Catholic pope. The church has been infiltrated and has been for a long time.

Good comment. Every so called pope since Paul VI has either taught heresy or participated in pagan rituals, which is contrary to the 1st Commandment. That makes them apostate and separated from the Catholic Church and if you aren't Catholic then you ain't pope.

I would also like to know

The Church isn't growing (at least in America), it's dying, I'll read off of Dr. Taylor Marshall's Infiltration, pages 161-164: Sunday Mass Attendance 1958: 74% of Catholics 2000: 25% of Catholics Infant Baptisms 1965: 1.3 million infant baptisms 2002: 1 million infant baptisms Adult Baptisms 1965: 126,000 adult baptisms 2002: 80,000 adult baptisms Catholic Marriages 1965: 352,000 Catholic marriages 2002: 256,000 Catholic marriages Annulments 1965: 338 annulments 2002: 50,000 annulments Priests: 1965: 58,000 priests 2002: 45,000 priests Ordinations 1965: 1,575 ordinations that year 2002: 450 ordinations that year Priestless Parishes 1965: 1% of parishes were priestless (549 total parishes) 2002: 15% of parishes were priestless (2,928 parishes) Seminarians 1965: 49,000 enrolled seminarians 2002: 4,700 enrolled seminarians Nuns 1965: 12,000 nuns 2002: 5,700 nuns Monks 1965: 12,000 monks 2002: 5,700 monks Jesuits 1965: 5,277 Jesuits and 3,559 seminarians 2000: 3,172 Jesuits and 38 seminarians Franciscans 1965: 2,534 Franciscans and 2,251 seminarians 2000: 1,492 Franciscans and 38 seminarians Catholic High Schools 1965: 1,566 Catholic high schools 2002: 786 Catholic high schools Parochial Grade Schools 1965: 10,503 parochial grade schools 2002: 6,623 parochial grade schools Catholic Parochial Students 1965: 4.5 million students 2002: 1.9 million students

@@zoomervince2457 damn that's a major blackpill I'd like to see Jimmy respond to this

And those USA numbers are even worse when you consider than the general population has almost double since 1964 meaning the total numbers should also have doubled all being the same. A great apostasy is the word for it.

The Church has been shrinking for the last 50 years. Akin is myopic. Remember folks, this man gets paid to uphold the institutional church he defends lest he no longer gets the shekels. He has no credibility. This is why charlatans like him won't debate the trad apologists of the trad clergy.

God did give us the right to choose, between Heaven and hell. As it applies to that...

Are you for forcibly converting people to the Christian faith? This is all that is condemning.

​@@christophersnedeker By that logic you shouldn't baptize your children and force your beliefs on them.

People are doing that well on their own without the pope.

@Grim Graven Cemetery I wouldn't allow an idol at my house, let alone the Vatican. There is even footage of him blessing the idol when he should be burning it instead. Lukewarm christianity isn't christianity.

@Grim Graven Cemetery He IS an heretic. He's not even a Catholic, being in San Galo, Masonry, Rotary Club...

@Grim Graven CemeteryIt has always been a teaching of the church that as catholics we are banned from praying with or participating in pagan religions psalm 96:5 "For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils: but the Lord made the heavens." which makes him a heretic as well as religious indiffrentism

@Grim Graven Cemetery religious indifferentism is heresy because there is no salvation outside the church Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra: meaning full authority of the papal office

@Grim Graven Cemetery Do you know the definition of a heretic in fact? With love and charity for your soul you are 100% wrong. A heretic in fact is automatically excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Faith. This has been a dogma of the for over 1500 years.

When they say that Communion in the hand is wrong (not just irreverent as some people claim but seriously wrong and that it is better not to received communion at all if you have to receive it in the hand) they remind me of the Pharisees who said Jesus was wrong to heal a man on the Sabbath.

@@unam9931 Bellarmine taught that Jews and Muslims worship the same God as us. I think John Smith's argument is somewhat flawed (as many Novus Ordo attending Catholics also miss the point) but he does have some degree of a point. Many trads seem to have no supernatural faith, instead preferring sensationalism.

@@g.weg.3723 Pope Bellarmine never said that for Jews and Muslims reject Jesus Christ which make them antichrist and therefore reject the father and the Holy Ghost

Bigger doesn't mean better. 70% of Catholics don't believe in Eucharist to be Jesus. The church is more becoming to be protestant. Maybe this is the big apostasy.

Maybe that's what happened, when the Vatican was infiltrated... To which it's now reached a point where The Pope is openly advocated the use of vaccines.. An absolutely diabolical thing for one of his "Holiness" to do to his people..

@@leesog3203 Francis advocating for life saving vaccines is now somehow proof that his papacy is invalid?

I've never seen anyone attack the papacy as much as Bergoglio. His Sinod of Sinodality is going to erradicate the last bits of Catholicism in the Catholic Church. He pretends to dissolve hierarchy and it will lead to congregations changing their ways arbitrarily to conform to the world.

@@itsdutchintime1907 99.9% survival rate. It isn't saving any lives. Stop being a scared woman.

@@deusvult6920 Do you think I'm scared? I never got the vaccine. I don't plan to. I'm 16 years old and not in need of it. You're a peach.

He really doesn't take on their actual arguments.

For instance when he brings up the problems they have with John XXIII, Jimmy says for reasons and does not mention the reasons.

@Coding Crusader 100%

It's impossible for a Pope to use infallibility to change dogma. It is impossible for dogma to change. A Pope that tried would prove he is no Pope (as has been the case since 1958)

@@deusvult6920 thank you

@@deusvult6920 Happy Easter

Now, have a great many bishops "rebelled in their minds against the Divine commandments"? It would be difficult to deny this. So it is accurate to say that they have apostatised, at least in one sense of the term.

It is genuinely humorous to hear Jimmy complain about traditionalists "misrepresenting" things while he completely misrepresents their positions.

Every part of Jimmy's argument is self-defeating. I can imagine a dissident academic in a communist country giving such obviously bad arguments for the Party as a coded way of attacking the Party, but it seems like Jimmy is being sincere.

"If Vatican II was bad, someone would have noticed". People *did* notice. *Bishops* noticed. Such a resistance was made that many of the Vatican II era errors have been rolled back. The traditional mass has been unsuppressed. Traditionalist orders are springing up everywhere. Traditional practices are being rediscovered by the youth. Churches are being unreckovated. Altar rails are going back up. My humble state capital has daily Latin masses.

And to lose Faith it takes only to reject one article as St. Augustine stated against arianists "In many doctrines we do agree, but the few one we disagree are sufficient to demonstrate we don't share the same Faith", and this is theologically true in fact the reject of any article of Faith is the reject of something that God has passed us either directly (Revelation) or indirectly (Church Magisterium-Tradition), so it is like saying that God, in that matter, either was not true or was in error, and this only is sufficient to fully lose Faith in God

Amen amen amen 🙏

Well no, it's not. It's a statement that the Vatican 2 Church is simply not the Catholic Church. The position is that the Holy Spirit did not guide us into error. To believe the Vatican 2 Church can possibly be the True Church when it teaches heresy previously condemned by the infallible magiaterium is, quite honestly, laughable. If you believe the Vatican 2 documents came from the Church, you believe the indefectable Church can defect and can contradict her previous infallible teachings

Wrong!

@@francisheperi4180 how so?

@@notaholyjoebutworkingonit Bishop Sanborn will explain.

I'm sorry, but this was funny, "set of a contest."

@@Thomas-dw1nb lol just saw that. Edit

Francis is not the pope but the first PACHA PAPA.

It’s easy to accept the teachings on the papacy when we have a good Pope. Your faith in those teachings is put to the test when we don’t have such a great Pope.

@@Leocomander The following is from Fr. Fernand Mourret on, arguably, the most immoral Pope in history: John XII. "Nothing in his life marked him for this office, and everything should have kept him from it. He was rarely seen in church. His days and nights were spent in the company of young men and of disreputable women, in the pleasures of the table and of amusements and of the hunt, or in even more sinful sensual enjoyments. It is related that sometimes, in the midst of dissolute revelry, the prince had been seen to drink to the health of the devil. Raised to the papal office, Octavian changed his name and took the name of John XII. He was the first pope thus to assume a new name. But his new dignity brought about no change in his morals, and merely added the guilt of sacrilege. Divine providence, watching over the Church, miraculously preserved the deposit of faith, of which this young voluptuary was the guardian. This Pope’s life was a monstrous scandal, but his bullarium is faultless. We cannot sufficiently admire this prodigy. There is not a heretic or a schismatic who has not endeavored to legitimate his own conduct dogmatically: Photius tried to justify his pride, Luther his sensual passions, Calvin his cold cruelty. Neither Sergius III nor John XII nor Benedict IX nor Alexander VI, supreme pontiffs, definers of the faith, certain of being heard and obeyed by the whole Church, uttered, from the height of their apostolic pulpit, a single word that could be an approval of their disorders. At times John XII even became the defender of the threatened social order, of offended canon law, and of the religious life exposed to danger." (Rev. Fernand Mourret, A History of the Catholic Church, Vol. 3 [St. Louis, MO: Herder Book Co., 1946], pp. 510-511) Not a single Pope in the entirety of Catholic history has ever been a heretic nor taught heresy. There's a *strict* difference between a bad (imprudent, immoral, etc.) Pope and a heretic Pope (the latter of which is impossible, an acceptance of which *would* constitute an abandoning of Catholic theology on the papacy). Can you really say that Bergoglio is _merely_ "bad"? God Bless.

yes

An SSPX priest dismantled sedevacantism in the video "Why Sedevacantism can't be a solution to the crisis."

@@Polack21 DId your false traditionalist priest refute The dimond bro? Because they usually chicken out when asked for a debate.

@@Polack21 Just tell your your priest to refute "Marcel Lefebvre: Sedevacantist" (in youtube) by Fr Cekada ( BTW Fr. Cekada know Abp Lefebvre personally)

@@russelbangot8245 Im very familiar with vaticancatholic material. I assure you, the SSPX priest in the video I mentioned is well worth your time.

@@Polack21 I think the worth for you and your priest to refute "Marcel Lefebvre: Sedevacantist" by Fr. Cekada😊

It's not that comments are deleted; it's because comments are held for review by KZfaq filters

@@zachmaxwell incorrect

​@@beewizerm8 Well, I'm the one that manages it

@@zachmaxwell must be trustworthy then....lol

@@beewizerm8 I trust him.... but he deleted my comment where I linked a really cool video about how to make awesome sugar free jello.

You anti-Vatican II people are your own worse enemies. You attack the Council and everybody associated with it, and then wonder why Pope Francis suppressed the Latin Mass.

Trent Horn did a great response to Dimond I suggest you check it out. I agreed with Dimond on a lot of things but Horn showed that he actually uses many clever manipulation and debate tactics to make his point seem more consequential than they actually are

Your Brother Diamond does not even have a real monastery. A real monastery would have a chapel and none can be seen on Google Maps.

@@georgepierson4920 He doesn't even believe the sacraments can be administered today because he believes there are no valid popes in the world.

Couldn't have said any better. Thanks

@@TheThreatenedSwan Thanks for that, Darwin.

Well they must be idiots, at the last supper Jesus turned the bread and wine into his body and blood and leaving it to his apostles and others who followed , so those who don’t believe that it’s not our lords body and blood I really feel sorry for them, so they can’t also believe that he died for us on the cross if they don’t believe what he said, well I’m glad that I believe and I thank God everyday for the faith that I was given and for the Religious education that I received from a great school in Coatbridge Scotland called ST PATRICKS.

"the VC2 church", as if there was any other Church. Sedevacantism falls into the same trap of pride as did the Jansenists, the Gallicans, the Donatists and even the Protestants. Its past time for Catholics to give religious assent to the teachings of the Magisterium and stop treating their own private beliefs on Scripture and Tradition as authoritative.

By virtue of his office, the Pope can't be a heretic. Another Pope could declare that a previous Pope held heretical views, but while he's Pope he can't be a heretic because it's the Pope who holds the authority to declare something a heresy. There have been many Popes who didn't live up to their office. But we trust the Holy Spirit to protect the integrity of the Church from a bad Pope taking them into heresy, and in 2000 years the Holy Spirit has safeguarded the Church. To deny the authority of the Pope and the Magisterium is heresy. So you are a heretic trying to accuse the Pope of heresy. Sedevacantists are literally just the new Protestant denomination, and are not Catholics

@@Desert-Father amen!

@@Desert-Father objectively false. We say "the Church has already taught infallibly on this. What Vatican 2 teaches is directly contradictory to previously revealed truth. It therefore lacks Holiness and can't be the True Church" It is nothing but deference to the Church. Your calumny is a mortal sin though. I'd repent

@@deusvult6920 "Infallibly taught"? Where? In what document and by what authority was it taught infallibly? Cite it and then cite the document and sentence from Vatican II that contradicts it. Do at least that bare minimum of work before you falsely accuse a fellow Christian of calumny when he is simply defending the teachings of an Ecumenical Council of Holy Mother Church. And you make this false accusation on Easter?! Have you no shame? You know what else is a mortal sin? Schism.

What?

@@christophersnedeker mhfm1 KZfaq

I totally agree it turned into a sissified, efeminized version of what catholicism really is a spectacle for evangelifish & atheists to join in on without being offended! This spectacle has nothing to do with true catholicism anymore.

Plus, they support sodomy and child abuse, but let's not criticize 'progressivism'. 😆

Adding in to this point Latin was used to also preserve the meaning of words because the language cannot change with culture

Lol. Try reading up on the definition of schism and then try and lecture Jimmy about what Heresy and Apostasy mean.

@@Desert-Father St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Pt. II, Q. 12, A. 1, Obj. 2: “… if anyone were to… worship at the tomb of Mahomet, he would be deemed an apostate.”

@@mariolimbaga5427 Canon 751 Schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him. Ubi Petrus, ibi ergo Ecclesia. -St. Ambrose of Milan

@@Desert-Father There have been over 40 anti-popes in church history. Any pope that commits heresy, apostasy and or idolatry is automatically excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Faith prior to the Vatican II sect.

@@Desert-Father this is exactly why we are sedes, because in order to subject to the See of Peter we need to refute what has already been defined and condemned. For instance, you cannot subject your conscience to "Quanta Cura" and "The Syllabus" AND to "Dignitatis Humanae" and "Unitatis Redintegratio", because these documents are not in continuity but in rupture, so one must decide which of the two is true/false, but since the Magisterium cannot contradict itself, the choice is simple. We're not rejecting papal authority, we're saying that since VII documents contain errors they cannot be Church's documents aka the "Popes" that promote them cannot be Popes because a true Pope doesn't have the Power to obliterate what previous Popes have defined/condemned, and if he does so then he cease to be Pope and cannot be considered as the supreme authority of The Church. If you defect from Faith, How can you be the chief of something you don't belong to?

Could it not be that this is God's plan? The passion manifest in the church, disfigured externally?

it's cope to call them prots, most catholic bishops deny more catholic doctrines than the average protestant pastor lmao

@@NeonShadowsx That's a blanket generalization, but okay.

Roman Flores that doesn’t even make sense. By saying “most” I am explicitly not generalising it.

Only an ignorant person would not believe that it’s not the Body And Blood Of Christ , when our lord at the last supper said to his apostles this is my body and this is my blood, do this in memory of me, so if they don’t believe that, then they don’t believe that he died and rose from the dead to atone for our sins, I feel sorry for them, and I thank God everyday for the Religious education that I Got at St Patrick’s school Coatbridge Scotland.

it is in sub-Saharan Africa. I think that soon we will soon require missionaries from Africa to come over to GB, Europe and North America to reignite the Faith.

@@michaelhaywood8262 Unfortunately, it is the counterfeit church and new religion from the Vatican II sect.

No. Jim is a heretic in fact which automatically excommunicate him from the Roman Catholic Faith. He is a protestant that promotes the counterfeit church and new religion of the Vatican II sect.

Jimmy is a self-loathing heretic

If you apply that logic throughout Church history you have to discount every convert ever before they went into ministry. If you do that to say St. Paul, then you have to toss out most of the New Testament of the Holy Bible.

Roman Flores excuse sorry. I reread my statement and it wasn’t clear. It should have read, “probably not the best choice” to talk about Sedevacantism. They should find a longtime solid Catholic to reach out to the Sedavacantists, they aren’t going to listen to Jimmy.

@Rincon Ovalle Luis Fernando you’re making a lot of assumptions my friend. I came to the Church through Sedavacantistism and believed they were right for a long time, and lived as such. After a long time of study and prayer, I found the Sedevacantist arguments fail in the face of our Lord’s words. And fail when presented with the spirit of the Lord. I understand WHY they think what they think, but it isn’t rational, and is very harmful. I would go so far as to say Sedavacantistism is text book schismatic ideology. The mere fact you think you can’t find “a real Catholic” outside of it, it a testament to its un-Christ like thinking.

@@CartmanMorisato No. Jim is a heretic in fact which automatically excommunicates from the Roman Catholic Faith. He is a protestant that is promoting the counterfeit church and new religion from the Vatican II sect.

Twilight zone.

And you're probably going to keep seeing it because people who don't understand Vatican II are always going to poo-poo it because they don't agree with it; and then pass themselves off as "true" or "traditional" Catholics.

Because he's trying to point out that we as Catholics need to be unified, not create more schism, which is ultimately the fruits of what SSPX has done. I respect their wanting to be true to God, but not their methods. It's a Protestantish split with Catholic trimmings.

@@CartmanMorisato there is no unity without truth

@@CartmanMorisato The sedes did not "do" anything except continue to do what they had always done. It was the Church that changed.

@@wendymoran6759 Though the SSPX speak alot of truth they are still heretics because they dont believe in Papal infallibility and dont hold the sede vacante position

@@mariolimbaga5427 I should clarify here, because it's a very big misunderstanding. Sedevacantism does not have anything to do with Papal Infallbility. That is, the argument does not treat of a Pope teaching in his official capacity. If he were to teach heresy in this way, it wouldn't even be a question that he is no longer Pope, because otherwise the dogma of Papal Infallibility wouldn't hold. Rather, sedevacantism treats of a Pope teaching heresy *as a private theologian* instead. The teachings of St. Robert Bellarmine may be called to mind on this point, regarding what would happen if a Pope became a manifest heretic. But you were right that the SSPX doctrines on the papacy are heretical because they accept a Church that, in it's official capacity (think: Vatican II) CAN and DOES teach error AND heresy (both of which are distinct and unacceptable) and think this is possible without violating the Church's indefectibility. God Bless.

No thanks, I have more faith in Christ's words in Matthew 16:18 than that!

No thanks I believe in the perpetual succession of Popes unlike sedevecantism which believes that the Papacy has ended.

@@TheChunkyCrusader it doesn't believe the papacy has ended but vacant. You clearly haven't read anything on the subject.

@@drazam6608 sure it doesn't believe that, but the logical conclusion of the position (considering a multitude of factors) is that this happened.

@@TheChunkyCrusader can you explain why it has logically ended?

Yup, they made a Jimmy Akin exposed vid. But it was from a Vid with Akin ages ago on MHFM

@@TheChunkyCrusader yeah I've seen the video

@@lonelyberg1808 Catholic LARPers the Bros are

An antipope is someone who poses as a Pope, but is not the true Pope. We've had over 40 of them in Church History. Also a heretic cannot be a Catholic and a Catholic can't at the same time be a heretic.

Great argument

That’s just incorrect. This is a solid refutation of an extremely heretical belief.

@@owennelson7081 no,this was not solid at all. We aren't heretical we uphold the traditions of the Catholic church that the Pope wilfully threw away

Then refute them!!!

​@@basedchango2172Don't you mean antipope?

​@@basedchango2172 Sedevacantism are no different than protestants, buddy. And just like them, you are heretics.

Moe Gibbs Yes

Moe Gibbs No I’m just not willing to listen to anything that a schismatic group tells me. Even if it’s a warning of an ambush, lmao it was probably a false alarm & exaggeration anyway. Sede’s always reach & exaggerate things too much

why not?

@Rincon Ovalle Luis Fernando whats wrong with MHFM?

@@Jf-mi2lj They are Feeneyites, "Feeneyism Against the Church Authority Fr Vili Lehtoranta" on YT explains the issue

Why? demons still obey the authority of exorcists that the sedes claim have invalid orders (and aren't priests). If they were invalid priests, they wouldn't be able to exorcise any better than lay people.

@@lostsheepofjesus2136 there have been many, many exorcisms and miracles preformed by priests post Vatican II. Why would a demon deceive the priest by leaving? Demons don’t want to leave. If they had the ability to stay I’m sure they would. They love tormenting people. Yes, faith before miracles, which is why I trust the Church that has an actual Pope.

@@lostsheepofjesus2136 It defeats the whole point of the papacy, which is to ensure that we can confidently know the true gospel by trusting in the authority of the Church headed by the successor of Peter. If we have to judge if the Pope is really the Pope based on if we think he's being heretical, then his authority is useless because we have to judge its validity. The Church's infallibility becomes, "those who always teach the truth always teach the truth", which is a useless tautology. Vatican I seems to refute sedevacantism in Pastor Aeternus: "That which our lord Jesus Christ, the prince of shepherds and great shepherd of the sheep, established in the blessed apostle Peter, for the continual salvation and permanent benefit of the Church, must of necessity remain for ever, by Christ’s authority, in the Church which, founded as it is upon a rock, will stand firm until the end of time." And Pope St. Pius X appears to confirm it: “The office divinely committed to Us of feeding the Lord’s flock has especially this duty assigned to it by Christ, namely, to guard with the greatest vigilance the deposit of the faith, delivered to the saints, rejecting the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so-called. There has never been a time when this watchfulness of the Supreme Pastor was not necessary to the Catholic body….” Please do not be led astray by the doubt sown by men who prefer their idea of what the Church should be to that which Christ established and entrusted to the care of Peter and his successors, though weak and imperfect Peter and his successors may be and very well are. If the Church always needs a Pope for its own good, then for our Lord to allow it to continue without one for a prolonged period of time would seem to be a betrayal of His promise to found His Church on Peter, against which the gates of Hades shall not prevail. False teachers may come, and without a pope to authoritatively settle disputes, the faithful may be led astray, especially if false teachers were pretending to sit in the Chair of Peter. That is my understanding of Christ's promise, at least. There necessarily needs to be an interregnum if a pope dies and a new one needs be elected, but to have a situation where nearly the whole of Christendom can be led astray and the visible Church misled by a false pope appears to be unthinkable in light of Christ's promise. Sedevacantism is essentially denying the power of the Holy Spirit to protect the Church from error. As Catholics, we believe that no matter how bad a Pope might be as a person, the Holy Spirit still prevents them from teaching any error if they make an infallible statement on faith or morals to the Church. Their beliefs are self-contradicting- if God truly established the Papacy through Jesus, then that also means that God would never allow Satan to lead the Church into error. The best arguments against it in my opinion are, the fact that sedevacantists lack Ordinary jurisdiction which destroys the concept of the Church, and makes it impossible for them to ever have a new Pope as there are no Cardinals of Pope Pius XII remaining and a General Council cannot be called. A minority of Sedes get around this with Bp. Michel-Louis Guérard des Lauriers' Thesis of Cassiciacum which holds that the Pope from John XXIII onwards are materially but not formally the Pope. Another argument is that of universal peaceful acceptance. It was taught by most (if not all) theologians that if the Bishops of the world universally and peacefully accepted a Pope (which happened with John XXIII) he is the Pope, this was taught by Cardinals Billot, de Lugo, Franzelin and Journet, the Manuals of Noort, Ott, Tanquery and Hunter, it was taught by many earlier theologians such as Suarez, John of St. Thomas and Cano, it was even taught by Saints such as St. Alphonsus Ligouri and St. Robert Bellarmine who are often appealed to by sedevacantists. The idea that the Papacy could be vacant, and that every Cardinal and Bishop could adhere to an anti-Pope was impossible to them.