Would love to see a further episode/video exploring esports' "identity" and how we can/should influence that after the VC bubble bursts. Perhaps a respectful distancing in some way from adjacent industries/scenes (in terms of identity) is in order? If that is even possible?

Are technology-based sponsors not interested or offering enough for these eSports organizations? Are there not sponsors that would generally be more appealing for the typical demographics watching this content?

@@Gizzgy There's probably two things going on. 1. gamers are cheap/ spend their disposable income on alcohol, marijuana (as evidenced by their freeze pipe sponsor), or other things of that nature. They're mostly watching this content because it's free. They discussed State Farm being a sponsor. When I renewed my homeowner's insurance, I got quotes from the top 5 brands (including them), and picked the cheapest. What good was the ad? Was it going to change my purchasing decision? 2. When it comes to technology sponsors, I already have a computer. Or I'll just buy parts and upgrade. Who would buy an out of the box rig? They're incredibly low value. Remember, gamers are a bunch of cheap, economically minded people. The games we play teach us trade-offs and opportunity cost. They're advertising to people who spend more time researching how to get good at a game than actually playing a game. You don't think they're gonna research prices on insurance coverage? You can't sell them premium electronics, you can't sell them traditional goods, you can't sell them anything really. They're the one group you don't want to advertise to. They really should lean into consumption goods, and fitness/ dating/ alternative colleges/ trade schools, etc. if they want to attract male customers. And the broader marketing 101 element here is the majority of purchasing decisions are made by women, or made to attract women. E.G. Gillette doesn't advertise their razors to men. Their ads are designed for a women to watch, think, "my boyfriend or husband would like those" and go buy them. Women statistically, aren't gamers/ aren't serious gamers/ aren't into esports/ aren't watching this content/ aren't making these purchasing decisions. Yes, you can find some stats that women play games, but they have much lower levels of engagement, hours played, play mobile games instead of PC games, don't engage in the competitive elements of games nearly as much as men do, etc. Why bother advertising anything to gamers, other than other games, which no company would want anyway...

A lot of good points here. I'll agree that I am always the type to go and find the best value. Hell, only the other day I was looking up the best types of battery for my electronic shaver, whether lithium or that other type, rechargeable or not etc. Adverts rarely have any effect on me on actually buying something. I don't have much spare money so I make sure it goes far.

I honestly prefer to consume esports through vods rather than live for this exact reason. Esports broadcasts are 90% bs ads and killing time until the matches start so you'd be a fool to sit there and watch the whole thing imo lol.

I must say that it is very reasonable why you don't spend money on those products, or don't watch ads. I am the same too. BUT. Everything you say is based on YOUR OWN experience. Plus, if your friends doing the same thing, it is still YOUR OWN bubbles. You and I, we don't have the large-scale statistics to form a conclusion, so always remember to be sceptical with your own pov because it is subjective.

cry harder Live Evil.

When massive companies advertise, it's almost purely as a blocker to other companies taking that spot.

Me, never even tried adblock in 20 years. But some ads yeah are annoying

Mastercard is the exact sort of sponsor that you want for stuff like LCS. Lots of people growing into adulthood in the audience, the chance to snag lots of lifelong customers. Its the same reason that banks/insurance companies are big sponsors. It might not matter to you, but to the people who have never done any of this stuff yet, it can inform their decisions hugely.

@@Thundawich why on earth would I base my choice of credit card on an ad presented to me while watching pro LoL?

@@m4ng4n Because you were never presented with anything else?

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@@AleXoEx0 >2017 My man doesn't know that all money is backed by US dollar which is backed by nothing. Federal Reserve is an infinite money glitch.

Btw. Verlisify is basically just a drama creation channel that tries to ruin the perception of others in the space.

@@vez3834 That's a lie. Thanks for further proving my haters are ill and deranged

@@Verlisify Sure sure. That's normal for a KZfaqr to say. Just don't take anything he says at face value.

What about two grown men fanboying over thooorin?

You need to live more if you think there is nothing more cute than a grown man fanboying over thorin..

@@Trippyisop you need to live more if you think two people joking around in the comment section of a thooorin video means they dont live enough. pro tip: dont do any social media or comment sections. theyre not suited for your mentality.

@@Trippyisop I was obviously joking

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Ur one of the casuals lol

@@jeff230394 Jeff has a need to feel better than others, and put them down if he can. Only he is not a casual. He is the ultimate carrier of knowledge. He is the main character of his own story. We can all learn a lot about Jeff's sad existence from that single sentence.

@@codingwithellie thank you

@@codingwithellie And you have a need to feel better than others by pointing Jeff out. And I have a need to feel better than others by pointing you out pointing Jeff out etc. It's an endless cycle of discontentment. Just like esports.

@@Johnherold121 it’s more fun to just upvote the deranged commenters and watch the world burn

"We threw money at it" pretty much sums up the story.

You’re hired

shark mindset

You say zoomers but I don't see zoomers watching esports. I don't and it's not a topic of conversation even with others who play games. You're a niche, but big, audience of people who mostly watch this shit for background noise and you will never be anything else because you're on twitch and youtube. There's simply better entairtenment than you out there, which is actually playing a game

I recommend watching some of Richards other videos on his channel or

On the other hand. It's always darkest before dawn. The field must be burned before it can be planted etc. A lot of people will burn. But from the ashes something better is likely to take its place.

That's assuming Porsches partnership with faze goes beyond brand names and regular fees, which I highly doubt. Not every sponsor actually sponsors you with their product, especially considering how Porsche doesn't usually sponsor their own high end cars. It's more about establishing the brand name and keeping it relevant in the *minds* of folks than actually hoping to directly sell their cars. It was the same for the audi x astralis "sponsorship", even if Audi doesn't actually go that much into the high end sector as Porsche does.

If there's no money there's no sport. That's one of the issues.

Well, Devin explained afterward exactly what I tried to explain lul

Now it's there