The EVERYTHING $300 Fanless Home Server
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Күн бұрынThis fanless server has EVERYTHING. Inside is an Intel Atom C3758, 4x SFP+ 10GbE, 2.5GbE, SSD slots, and external HDD connections. We show you how you can make this an awesome pfSense or OPNsense appliance or NAS/ virtualization host for something like Proxmox VE or TrueNAS and save $1000 or more doing it.
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
02:09 External Hardware Overview
06:40 Internal Hardware Overview
10:55 Performance
13:30 Power Consumption
14:48 Key Lessons Learned - Turning this into a Proxomox VE or TrueNAS NAS and VM Host
18:36 Wrap-up
@stephenneal7373 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure others have already posted - but a possible reason why the USB 2.0 RF dongle and the USB 3.0 flash drive didn't work together is that USB 3.0 connectors can give off a LOT of RF in the 2.4GHz range that can take out a lot of RF keyboard dongles if they are too close to a USB 3.0 port running at USB 3.0 speeds. I have a small USB 2.0 extender cable to move the dongle away from the port for just this scenario.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Totally correct. Have a great weekend!
@adiadiadii 9 күн бұрын
Yes, there is a paper from Intel about it
@kilo.sierra 4 күн бұрын
Today I learned ^
@pinkowl9752 5 ай бұрын
The AliExpress reseller just uploaded your video to their product page, lol.
@naps1saps 4 ай бұрын
I've seen this with other products but is usually an embed youtube vid so not technically stealing?
@NetITGeeks 2 ай бұрын
@@naps1saps In AliExpress situation here, they actually downloaded this video and uploaded to their own servers. Hence, they are stealing content. LOL
@stevenmishos 5 ай бұрын
One thing I'd like to see covered is how well these small companies manage firmware updates over time. I really liked Intel NUCs for small homelab devices because Intel did a good job keeping BIOS updated as vulnerabilities were discovered.
@TheRealMrGuvernment 5 ай бұрын
Same. So many of these fly by night companies selling small boxes like this with left over parts from makers. My other main concern is, any spyware chips in these systems? Has anyone done a proper port mirror to monitor traffic going out of these devices, outside of the OS....
@2dfx 5 ай бұрын
I'll tell you and save you the trouble. They're about as solid as D-Link. Meaning, the product will be obsolete and dropped from support before it's even released.
@EvilDaveCanada 5 ай бұрын
Anyone know how ASUS is going to support the NUC series now that they bought it from Intel?
@ChrisWijtmans 5 ай бұрын
they could be a target for gnu boot. But i want to avoid these since they are intel based. I am looking for something like this based on AMD or even ARM based. Althought a router only needs 2 ethernet ports. Which can be extended with a switch. thats all i need currently and i havent found it yet.
@peterboil4064 5 ай бұрын
GNU Boot doesn't even really exist... @@ChrisWijtmans
@UpcraftConsulting 5 ай бұрын
If you want 1u rackmount I suggest sending them a message. I have bought customized Qotom devices with 1u cases for small upcharges before. They are usually very open to case customization. If you order in larger quantities they would even silkscreen your own logo on the box as they offer ODM services for an upcharge. (Quantity required wasn't even that large, like 6)
@Kendal1999 5 ай бұрын
How much have you paid for custom 1U? Want to know if it worth few extra bucks to get it
@UpcraftConsulting 5 ай бұрын
@Kendal1999 $50 is typical. Includes a new fixed / internal power supply.
@Kendal1999 5 ай бұрын
@UpcraftConsulting holy that's a good dead imo.
@Darkk6969 5 ай бұрын
@@UpcraftConsulting That is very appealing! Will have to check it out.
@billhgong 5 ай бұрын
The mouse keyboard dongle and USB drive issue just can’t be resolved since USB 3.0 will interfere with 2.4GHz signals. At such close range EMI shielding won’t work either so it’s not a design flaw for this particular product. If you use an extension cable for the dongle it should resolve the issue. Also the SSD is covered in epoxy or sealant is most likely to make it environment-proof instead of for security reasons. The slot below two m.2 2280 slots is a m.2 3042 slot and is wired for WWAN (when considering the SIM slot is next to it, and of course the majority of m.2 WWAN cards are in 3042 size unlike WLAN cards at 2230 size).
@moomah5929 5 ай бұрын
He could trying using an USB extension cable to move the dongle away from the USB3 port and stick. I did this with some of my dongles. Btw, still funny how many people leave bad reviews for wireless 2.4GHz devices simply because they don't know about this USB3 design flaw.
@zyeborm 5 ай бұрын
Yeah you need an extension cable to get them to work half the time
@billhgong 5 ай бұрын
@@moomah5929 That's right, they're supposed to blame Intel and USB-IF 😏
@eveningstarnm3107 4 ай бұрын
An SSD in a security device from China sealed in epoxy... I'm sure there's nothing to worry about, right?
@craftkiller9627 5 ай бұрын
TWO DAYS AGO I bought one of the fanless boxes you reviewed last year, and NOW you show me this absolute beauty?!?!
@DigitalIndependent 5 ай бұрын
This happens with everything… we‘ll have to get used to it
@massimo79mmm 5 ай бұрын
i think this thing is even older than yours...
@thatguyinabeanie 5 ай бұрын
return it
@trisymphony 5 ай бұрын
This feature set screams "make me into a 1U server with 4 hotswap bays connected over the SFF 8087". I would love to buy that as a NAS/homelab box.
@webluke 5 ай бұрын
So much of the Chinese network gear is so close to being super useful but falls short of being useful without something extra. Even Western name brands always seem to compromise on dumb things that wouldn't have increased the cost by much but lost sales because of it.
@hypercube33 5 ай бұрын
100% would buy this right now if it came in a stubby 1U short box.
@mito-pb8qg 5 ай бұрын
@@webluke They wouldn't cannibalize sales of their outrageously overpriced enterprise level gear like that, which DOES have those features.
@philipslighting8240 5 ай бұрын
Buy it then.
@thisisreallyme3130 5 ай бұрын
If you ditch the case, it might fit inside a 1U enclosure, or worst case onto a 1U shelf. The case can't be doing too much heatsinking, since the top is where the fins are and there's just air under them..
@BenX256 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I've been looking everywhere for something that checks all the boxes for a new proxmox/router unit for my homelab, I think this blows my requirements out of the water and gives me room to grow. this is probably it!
@PeterZin 5 ай бұрын
I spotted this thing on Aliexpress a couple of months ago. Such a sweet connectivity hub. It would make a nice 10gbe router/firewall to pair with wifi 7 AP later down the road this year.
@marcogenovesi8570 5 ай бұрын
These chinese industrial-ish things are on a roll. I remember a year ago when it was hard to get even a multiple eth mini PC and now boom it slices it dices it washes the dishes
@djsmeguk 5 ай бұрын
Rhis looks like a possibility to replace both a 12 year old homelab server and a newer but still old qotom netbox. The 2.5 and 10g combo looks amazing and replacing the old server HDD setup with something more portable would be a nice upgrade.
@nestorkropotkin8952 5 ай бұрын
Really glad I am still early on in my Home Server project. Still might keep my NGFW separated from my NAS/Home Server but this might just pull me back into the All In One plan again. The nice thing about 'passive' cooling is that adding active cooling to it is not hard. :D
@RyanGrange 5 ай бұрын
I have an older QOTOM model with dual 1Gb eth, a J1900 cpu, 4GB RAM, and 60GB EMMC storage. It's served me faithfully as a pfSense firewall/router for many years now.
@waifulhu9898 5 ай бұрын
you always manage to post a video about the exact device i need at the exact time i'm looking for it lmao
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to STH! :-) Happy new year!
@vandorb12 5 ай бұрын
When you first showed off the Hunsun appliances, I stared saving up, but now with SFP+ ports on this unit, I'm tempted to deviate and go for this just for the potential to future-proof my homelab.
@NatesRandomVideo 5 ай бұрын
STH starting the year off with a bang. Cheers!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
This month is going to be bonkers now that the new studio is taking shape
@djole02 5 ай бұрын
@8:30 That's a M.2 B-key slot for 4G/5G WWAN cards. You can even clearly see the connections to the SIM card slot. edit: It's really great to see that you get this slot on this PC as it can offer quite inexpensive WAN redundancy.
@TayschrennSedai 5 ай бұрын
That was my first thought, drop a 5G antenna onto it and profit. Not sure off hand what OS supports that OOB but it's a unique feature.
@feedmytv 5 ай бұрын
@@TayschrennSedai I think it's used more as primary connection and not OOB. Like POS equipment. The only LTE OOB I ever saw in action was in DC colocation
@TayschrennSedai 5 ай бұрын
@@feedmytv I actually was thinking for a failover connection. By oob I meant I don't know what OS supports LTE connections out of box, not out of band haha
@anthonygreen77 5 ай бұрын
Can the wireless card be used as a redundant WAN link if your fixed ISP is down? Any info on how to set this up in pfsense? Also any idea on how much the wireless WAN cards cost?
@gearboxworks 5 ай бұрын
@@TayschrennSedai- And that is a great example of why people using initialisms all the time can be so infuriating. #justsaying 🙂
@Tgspartnership 5 ай бұрын
a great find Patrick!! thanks for testing this machine sounds like a little beauty.
@NonyaDamnbusiness 5 ай бұрын
Dammit, Patrick! I already replaced my old 1GB Protectli firewall running baremetal Arista/Untangle with a CWWK N305 4-port 2n5GB firewall and virtualized OPNsense on it passing thru WAN/LAN NICs and installing HAOS as a VM and moved all my docker stuff over to an LXC running Docker (~20 containers) and now this shows up. Oh well, at 7% CPU utilization and only using 48% of the 32GB RAM I have installed it I think I'm good to go for a while. it did replace a separate firewall and Proxmox server so at least overall power consumption is down. And I did add a Zigbee USB stick to it and it's slowly replacing the Philips Hue-based lighting systems I have with cheaper options that don't require me to have a "cloud account" with Philips.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Cool box! You are right the challenge is often on memory capacity not CPU performance.
@CrimsonDemonKyo 5 ай бұрын
I have been looking at this alot and I have found that the spot you were thinking was for a Wifi card is a M.2 B Keyed 3042/3052 slot this is commonly used for 3G,4G,5G Celluar Card. Wifi cards use M.2 A+E or M.2 E keyed slots. I was not able to find a good way to use wifi in this without some type of adapter card.
@drescherjm 5 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic for the price.
@saxxonpike 5 ай бұрын
This is absolutely nutty for the price point.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@MuckingFedic 5 ай бұрын
This amazing! Thank you!
@theaddies 5 ай бұрын
Great video. What a cool device. Do you happen to have further information relating to specific ram this machine can accommodate. You mention ECC ram. I was wondering if you have any idea specifically which sticks.
@randomlegodev 5 ай бұрын
this might just be the overpowered router I've been looking for, awesome video :)
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JohnPMiller 5 ай бұрын
I'm happy with my 4-port N5105 box, but this box will make a lot of people with faster connections happy.
@tommybronze3451 5 ай бұрын
So comparing it's CPU Atom C3758 (8 cores) - cpu mark score 4614 Netgate 6100 CPU Atmo C3558 (4 cores) - cpu mark score 2417 Not a massive performance boost, but damn it's a great alternative for failover router alternative to netgate products ! An yes I doo agree that this one do actually take the cake in terms of connectivity & extendibility @ low power package. Wait ... I've just realised, this could work as both my failover firewall and failover web server ... where's my credit card ?! THANKS PATRIC for so far the best late Christmas / new year gift !
@Cr4zYH3aD 5 ай бұрын
That looks awesome!
@RunarBorge 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review! :) Have you tried using 1gig sfp modules in those 10g ports?
@ralf391 5 ай бұрын
2024: The desk has hit rock bottom. Frohes und Gesundes, STH!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Happy new year!
@kmacintyre1972 3 ай бұрын
Great review! Subbed
@hellsing56666 5 ай бұрын
Seems really great for a home router/nas.
@MostlyPennyCat 5 ай бұрын
The Kettop-Mi4125L5 has a J4125, meaning you get QuickSync too for Plex support.
@gtoger 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I've been looking for a device like this to run a small ESXi lab on that wouldn't scream away in the hall closet. I'm a little concerned the proc wouldn't hold up very well in that use but it otherwise looks nearly perfect.
@camaycama7479 5 ай бұрын
Not sure that CPU support virtualization ?
@Br4mVAL 5 ай бұрын
@@camaycama7479 it does
@Darkk6969 5 ай бұрын
@@camaycama7479 It does. 12:17 in the video. VT-x is what you're looking for.
@robbyandrews223 5 ай бұрын
@@camaycama7479 Denverton definitely supports Intel VT.
@lvmeijer 4 ай бұрын
@@camaycama7479 He mentions in the video he ran Proxmox, as well as Windows and Linux
@I4get42 5 ай бұрын
Hi Patrick! That looks really cool.
@gearboxworks 5 ай бұрын
I kept expecting Patrick to complain about "the lack of USB ports." 😂 I really wish it had at least an option for IPMI or equivalent; that is high up my list of preferences for on any server. Lastly, having an HDMI port or mini-HDMI port would be nice given how many monitors these days no longer have VGA ports. OTHER THAN THAT, seems like a really awesome find, especially with the Atom C3xxx processor.
@LiveType 5 ай бұрын
This being under $300 for the barebones kit is wild. Truly living in the future.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@AustinMichael 5 ай бұрын
Not really. It's 7+ year old hardware in a cheap unibody case. The Chinese can pump these out really cheap.
@nadtz 5 ай бұрын
@@AustinMichael For the intended use for most people it doesn't matter that much that it's an older chipset in an inexpensive case so long as it can handle the traffic over the SFP+ ports. I do get what you are saying though and it's not like there aren't any downsides with these companies like long term support or any support at all depending on the vendor.
@Darkk6969 5 ай бұрын
@@nadtz These are fine since FreeBSD and Linux can easily support these older hardware. Also since it's been around for a long time the drivers are already been vetted.
@nadtz 5 ай бұрын
@@Darkk6969 I agree, opnsense/truenas/proxmox would probably have no problem supporting these, but there will be some wackos out there (like myself) who want to try to run everything under the sun out there on something like this with proxmox or what have you so newer CPU/chipset options wouldn't be a bad thing. That said for the price I couldn't really complain for the feature set.
@Elristan 4 ай бұрын
Oooooooh these are SO GOOD. Thankful I stumbled on this video, I nearly bought parts to build a node with half the cores, none of the high speed NICs and only 4 to 6 SATA ports... Supposedly woulda been more power efficient though, but marginally... And the whole thing would have been more expensive than this (excluding DAS enclosure). Thanks !
@ServeTheHomeVideo 4 ай бұрын
It was a crazy find.
@SB-qm5wg 5 ай бұрын
$300 is fair for this. Good review. ty
@Pit_stains 5 ай бұрын
Very nice. As I write this, shipping is $42.04 regardless of build (on amazon). I might try this out to replace a super old desktop PC i've been running pfsense on. Thanks
@dktol56 5 ай бұрын
In the vyos forums, there are reports of link problems with the X553 and the ixgbe driver in the 6.x kernels, but not the 5.x kernels. Seems that some sort of regression occurred in the in-tree ixgbe driver maintained by the Intel developers, but a forum poster troubleshooting the problem was able to get it to work by compiling the latest Intel out-of-tree source against the vyos kernel. Probably just a temporary fix until this gets sorted out. BTW, it doesn't affect pfsense and opnsense since they are bsd-based. I'm surprised that Patrick didn't run into this issue with the 10Gb SFP+ ports when testing proxmox and truenas scale, as they are both based on Debian 12 with a 6.x kernel. Maybe both are using the out-of-tree Intel driver in their custom kernels?
@massimilianogilli1164 5 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see some syntethic benchmarks on those nics. Does it make sense to make this unit a Wireless AP as well?
@omegatotal 5 ай бұрын
need more of these in 1u super compact chassis AND 1u half width chassis that can run 2 side by side for HA
@stevenwheelwright572 5 ай бұрын
the coral edge TPU has a m.2 E key form factor that would work with that empty WiFi slot. you could then run an NVR with object detection very easily with frigate
@ShadVonHass 5 ай бұрын
Does it get assisted at all by the usual iGPU or would the coral do it all?
@concinnus 5 ай бұрын
@@ShadVonHass The C series CPUs don't have an iGPU.
@theglowcloud2215 5 ай бұрын
"very easily" lol there's nothing easy about configuring Frigate with object detection when it comes to most off-the-shelf cameras
@j67160 5 ай бұрын
Frigate thinks my wall is actually a human
@hmurchison8123 5 ай бұрын
This will be perfect to build my nextgen firewall.
@reneb5222 2 ай бұрын
I bought the 1U unit version with i226V nics with 64 GB memory. It also has fan and is looking great. There's one major issue with the unit intel x553 SFP+ ixgbe is a no go on Proxmox. No kernel driver in Debian.
@rdcardex 5 ай бұрын
Sweet! I was looking how to shrink my homelab budget, and this looks pretty darn awesome to achieve that goal. Thanks Patrick... have an awesome day.
@confusedbeard69 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it this is the upgrade I've been waiting for. My i5-3330 pfsensebox is a tad old and uses a bit of power.
@nikodemradomski1782 4 ай бұрын
I will buy it as soon as more is in stock since it will perfectly replace my main server but would be amazing to see it with a more powerfull cpu by having a active cooler
@floriantthebault521 5 ай бұрын
Super vid, as usual ! I've been looking at the data sheet of Qotom, but I can't find the chipset used for the SFP+ NIC. I only see it's using the i225-V (1Gbit/s) and i226-V (2.5Gbit/s) for the RJ45 ports, but nothing about the SFP+. Would you know which NIC (and speed) are using the two SPF+ ports ?
@pbrigham 5 ай бұрын
Oh boy, what a Pfsense killer, just love it.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Also OPNsense
@adamkonrad 5 ай бұрын
This is really good and the price point is crazy!
@JoaquinVacas 5 ай бұрын
While not having a iGPU is a bit of a tradeoff, having that much cores for SW encoding is something to be aware of. 👌
@MostlyPennyCat 5 ай бұрын
There's a version with a Celeron J for quick sync support.
@drtbantha 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see this with a newer processor - either a more powerful one or a more power efficient one. As it stands, there doesn’t seem to be a compelling reason to replace my trusty Lenovo SFF with i7-4770.
@PaulSpades 5 ай бұрын
You don't want power, you want speed. The storage and network interfaces on this little thing are an order of magnitude faster than what that (pre?)skylake system can push trough its busses. If you keep all of your working dataset in ram, that doesn't matter, but if you don't...
@BrandonPeccoralo 5 ай бұрын
1000% correct. this unit is cheap because of all the networking problems with this intel cpus
@thegeekno72 5 ай бұрын
What an unexpected (to me at least) review drop, I was wondering if this one would get in your hands, I ordered mine last week already, still waiting for the delivery so that'll be a treat to enjoy while I wait patiently ! EDIT : Hi patrick, did you mention the nanoSIM slot or did I miss it ? 🤔 Happy new year to you and the team !
@notreal5311 5 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to ask about the SIM card slot! Also the bookmarks talk about Proxmox and TrueNas at 14:48 but its just DAS talk - would have liked to see how it hndled running Proxmox etc. Think they did a little partying on NYE! Cheers!
@profosist 5 ай бұрын
The reason for the mouse and keyboard wireless not working is due to interference from the USB 3.0 flash drive.ive seen this with front panel on desktop too
@leonwatertor6647 5 ай бұрын
Absolute great video i was looking if i could buy one unfortunately amazon does not ship this item to the netherlands and aliexpress has a huge markup for the same system plus 50 euro shipping. Anyway great video and keep up the good work
@LockonKubi 5 ай бұрын
last time I was aware of the Intel Atom platform as a thing was the netbook and compute stick era. Did not know it just moved into this embedded appliance space instead.
@Really2950 4 ай бұрын
Great product
@brettpeckinpaugh Ай бұрын
Great video, you talk about virtualization. What can this handle virtualizing? The process is not the beefiest. I recently got a NUC 13 and installed ESXI 8 and I am pretty happy with how many machines I can run on it. I also have a server running a few quests and docker containers, so curious what this little box could do for me besides just being a router/firewall. Currently my server is the NAS as it needs direct connect between a quest and the NAS storage drives.
@blender_wiki 5 ай бұрын
Wow this is great, courious to see if he can really manage the 10GbE with Jumbo frames. Can you do a review on the AsRock Rack E3C256D4I-2T Mini-ITX Server motherboard?? Can be really nice
@TravelerNick 5 ай бұрын
Yes please. Could you?
@sh0ckwaveVR6 5 ай бұрын
i have one since october ;) this thing is amazing!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
We have several folks in the STH forums with them as well.
@rabidturtles359 4 ай бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideoDoes anyone have any info about the controller behind the SFF 8087 port? I would like to use it with my SAS drives I already have. Thanks!
@b4ttlemast0r 5 ай бұрын
The features / IO are crazy, but the processor paired with it is pretty weak
@sayemprodhanananta144 5 ай бұрын
No quick sync is a big hurdle for being in a homelab
@headlibrarian1996 22 күн бұрын
This seems like it would make a good ceph storage cluster node, and they're cheap enough to make a five node cluster instead of the three node clusters you typically see with the MS-01.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 22 күн бұрын
Yes
@saiyantwan 5 ай бұрын
Now we just need a rack mountable version of this. I know I could put it on a shelf but would just love to mount it. It also makes me a bit upset with the hunsn rackmount i bought about a year or so ago for my opnsense set up.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
We have 2-3 different 1U rackmounts that we are already working on the articles/ videos for. Probably later this month after we finish the MS-01 review.
@andrewpiechocki9006 4 ай бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Sadly those are all sold out except for the lowest end 2C/2T 4x1GB NICs with no SFP+.
@adamsherman 5 ай бұрын
So, can I run a pair of NVMe drives as well as a Coral TPU? Add a large SATA drive for non-redundant bulk video storage and this thing can run Frigate and a zillion other containers. Love it.
@canonip3000 5 ай бұрын
I am thinking of getting one of those to "replace" my HP Microserver Gen8. Only to connect the 4-Bay SFF8087 cable of the Microserver to this
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
That is really interesting
@accesser 5 ай бұрын
That looks awesome Are there any SSD or MVME consumer DAS units rather than spinning rust
@user-wp1jd1rs5t 5 ай бұрын
NVMe doesn’t work over SFF8087/8088
@prodeous 5 ай бұрын
I'm really liking that server.. and the DAS option.. Is there any DAS units that are Rack format?
@azarelo 5 ай бұрын
this seems like a dream O_O
@memadmax69 5 ай бұрын
Sweet. I'll take 10. Thanks.
@wholesomeducky 5 ай бұрын
Those look like they're both USB3....even on the black one, you can see that there's cutouts for the 5 extra pins (though I can't quite see if the pins are actually there).
@cmuller1441 5 ай бұрын
The DAS provides little for the price. Just use a sff8087 to 4*SATA cable, put your 4 disks in an old PC case with a PSU and with a bridge on the MB power cable to keep it on. You'll probably want to connect the 2 cases together to keep a clean ground (the old PC case is grounded but the mini-pc is powered by a floating PSU). Cost $10 plus stuff you already own instead of $300...
@terrylyn 4 ай бұрын
It looks good, but then again my ITX form factor build Ryzen APU + 64 gigs ECC + 4 spinning disks draws 50-60 watts and cost about the same. However, I do see the appeal of this kind of left-field setup, more so if the power draw would be significantly less.
@apricotcomputers3943 2 ай бұрын
Interesting little device 😊
@SgtDeagle 5 ай бұрын
yeah. 2.4ghz connection to mices or Keyboards dont like a usb 3.0 connection directly nearby, have the same issues since years with different devices
@concinnus 5 ай бұрын
I just ran across the C3558 version of this like a week ago, what're the odds? But yeah, I225V is a bit of a bummer (tho they say I225/I226, so I guess they can have either).
@ViciousXUSMC 5 ай бұрын
Seems amazing, I just dont knot if I can go back to a little box running an Atom after building PFSense using a R210ii and a Xeon running every package out there and watching it laugh at it. For 1gb this is probably absolutetly perfect, but for VPN and full packet inspection I think this would choke trying to handle more than that.
@placksheep 4 ай бұрын
Darn, only versions of this I can find are the 2-4 core variants. I've been looking for something like this to replace an old edgerouter.
@kotgc7987 4 ай бұрын
Is there a way to use this as a main server, then run VMs on it, sending the audio/video to other rooms where a monitor, mouse and keyboard can run on the VMs? I'm guessing the monitor, mouse and keyboard needs cables which may not reach the main server, so perhaps some small device that receives the main server's data by ethernet and then outputs via cables to monitors, keyboards and mice?
@7rich79 5 ай бұрын
Would the WLAN cards be difficult to source? It looks like it could be a nice all-in-one home router.
@joosep6598 5 ай бұрын
How much is the CPU temp under load? Also how are the NVME drives temps, if there is no ventilation or even fan option?
@roast54321 5 ай бұрын
Hey Patrick, anyway you and the team can add firewall throughput as part of your testing regiment? Would be nice to know if the C3758 can handle 1Gb, 3Gb, 8Gb or 10Gb internet. Routing tests for no rules, 25 rules and 25 queues.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
The pfSense folks have this CPU running at over 18Gbps with iperf3 traffic in the 8200 Max as shown
@dota2tournamentss 5 ай бұрын
damn, finally something with good IO, but I would love to see it with n305 or something like i5 12600t
@jorper2526 5 ай бұрын
Look at the N305 PCIE lanes.. Simply not enough lanes to do something like this. 12600T.. I mean maybe it's possible.. But that is getting into some really extremely niche cases. Most of the devices like this one are ostensibly built for Edge/Industrial use. The only thing that will have perfect IO is one you build yourself, but it probably won't be in the form factor you want.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
This is 100% correct.
@dota2tournamentss 5 ай бұрын
@@jorper2526 yes n305 is really bad if we look on pcie lanes
@kantei_ka 5 ай бұрын
I got this a week back. I paid 232$ for the PC. 50$ for shipping and around 60$ more on customs. The processor is CS3758R with 8GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. I'm running pfsemse and it's running fine. Also, I tested that all the SFP+ ports and the RJ45 ports are running fine thlugh I didn't get enough time to benchmark or stress test the unit.
@rabidturtles359 5 ай бұрын
@kantei_ka Would you be able to tell me if the controller driving the 8087 port is SAS compatible? I would like to use my SAS drives on this unit.
@user-jt6sn7yu1d 3 ай бұрын
Did you use a sfp+ to rj45 module at all? If so can you recommend one that works.. thanks
@hk9443 5 ай бұрын
Is there no temperature readings mentioned?
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo 5 ай бұрын
Good job.
@AppZoneIL 5 ай бұрын
i am setting up 10G home network, I am considering using this device as my router, will it be fast enough to be a 10g router?
@leoliu5017 5 ай бұрын
I bought 1 4 port 2.5g nic card, 1 8 port 2.5g hub, 1 4 port spf+ switch, buy a matx , modify switch fan, then realise this meet all my needs while cost 1/4-1/3 . It will consume less power and without fan noise😮
@PhilippDurrer 5 ай бұрын
Damn, I'm looking for something in this form factor that can truly route 4x10GbE RJ45, could you run iperf on that thing and let us know how well it does doing 10G?
@MoraFermi 5 ай бұрын
I think I saw a C6000 version of this motherboard somewhere on aliexpress.. I looked at it, saw this weird collection of networking ports and the "NAS motherboard" label and got so confused I passed on it.. Maybe I should go find it again. Edit: Oh wait no, this was exactly this board, with the -R cpu. Intel's part naming scheme can cause serious confusion.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
Even if it was a C5000 let me know
@smason16 5 ай бұрын
This or a newer alternative is what im after, but compatible with a standard 1u chassis, anything with this soc on ebay for mainboard only is still double+ this price.
@hokatichenci 5 ай бұрын
That seems like a whole lot of I/O - what' the pci-e topology/architecture? Does it actually have enough lanes/speed to support all that?
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
The C3758 has built in 10GbE NICs which is what makes it possible
@sathivv950 5 ай бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I am realizing now reading this comment that this must be the important bit. Reading the comments from people lamenting that this was not an i3 or more powerful processor I went looking for a mini pc with an i3 or greater and could not find a single offering with sfp+ ports or 10G anything. And this has 4 of them plus the 2.5G ethernet ports. I think this is exactly what I need to upgrade my existing 10G switch connections into some proper vlans. Thank you.
@shubinternet 4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see firewall benchmarks with this device compared to NetGate, etc....
@beakerwsw 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure these are great, but can we get some reviews of things that are actually rack mountable?
@johnzirnkilton7236 5 ай бұрын
Finally!!! Ive been running an old dell R410 and the power consumption and not having hw accelerated encryption has been not fun.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 5 ай бұрын
This is also a lot quieter.
@davidgrim5990 2 ай бұрын
Gave up on. It. I need the nas part to have a fan and so far I have only seen one vendor do this. As a stand alone server it would be fine
@Bytional 5 ай бұрын
I saw these mini servers 3 years ago, still in factory testing, a few examples leaked in China, glad to see they really developed these.
@shmehfleh3115 5 ай бұрын
I'm guessing a video DAC is integrated onto this little enterprise-ish platform, which is why they went with VGA. Still, I wish they would've implemented HDMI instead. It's getting harder to find monitors with VGA support these days.
@ChrisWijtmans 5 ай бұрын
display port would be better.
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