The Excellent and Underrated Design of the Rolex Milgauss

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A Discussion around the Rolex Milgauss and its Evolution. The model has never reached the same level of success as other professional models but has managed to change over the years, capturing how designs and trends evolve over time. It also shows us how the Rolex brand has developed and how this may be the very last "playful" professional model produced.
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@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
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@grahambowes756
@grahambowes756 2 жыл бұрын
I got my Z Blue 5 years ago. In the days when AD's had the full range in stock of Submariners. I loved that fact that it wasn't the usual suspect and had that unique quirky character. I bought it as a watch that I loved, rather than an investment. I'd choose the same watch today over the other options.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment Graham and thank you! The same way we should all feel about our watches. And it does scream out as an example that doesn't conform with anything else that Rolex makes (who wants what everyone else has?)
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason to buy a watch, not a Rolex fan but if I was to buy one it would be this one. So much more interesting than the usual suspects.
@panorama4526
@panorama4526 2 жыл бұрын
Submariners in stock? Five years ago? Where, and when exactly!?
@grahambowes756
@grahambowes756 2 жыл бұрын
@@panorama4526 SW London at my AD. Tried them on and could have bought there and then :-)
@matthewdale956
@matthewdale956 2 жыл бұрын
Well said sir 🍻
@fangzhengguo8089
@fangzhengguo8089 2 жыл бұрын
I got my Z blue 2 years ago as my first Rolex. The dial and the green crystal look so interesting and amazing under different light conditions. It will stay in my collection forever:)
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Milgaus is definitely is one of those watches that will be so wanted when they are discontinued, as people will see the coolness factor that this watch offers. I really think that the Airking, Explorer I, and Milgaus are the three best buys at the moment. Great video as usual buddy :)
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
They all have their own quirks and charm, absolutely. One word I never mentioned in the video was "Adventurous" and it feels like out of all of them, the Milgauss is the one that was always the most "out there" design wise. Love it! Thank you as always Abdul!
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
I got the call for the z-blue Milgauss last month. It is awesome! It was the first Rolex that I found interesting enough to buy.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah! It's always going to be the one to have in this category too. Think of it as that "last adventurous professional" Huge congratulations Jim!
@BUMHEAD1100
@BUMHEAD1100 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are destocking these - I got a call on the z-blue last weekend too…..
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
@@BUMHEAD1100 did you pick it up? If so, whacha think?
@BUMHEAD1100
@BUMHEAD1100 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 pick up this Saturday - will see, but as you said it’s the most interesting normal model.
@NEROROYAL
@NEROROYAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy Paul Thorpe said that production has now ceased. I’ve also heard that dealers are stocking up on Z blues. It’ll be a £10K grey mkt starting point watch (Z blue) I believe.
@blueshirtbuddah1665
@blueshirtbuddah1665 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video IDGuy, thanks.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope you're recovering well, sir. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to catch the clip!
@commonsenseplease836
@commonsenseplease836 2 жыл бұрын
I first saw a Milgauss in 2010. I didn't know anything about it all I knew was that i wanted one. In 2015 I finally could afford it but I was having second thoughts and considered playing it safe, went to an AD and they showed me a SS Sub, GMT and a Daytona (yep, you heard it right). I agonised for weeks and months but I finally went with my gut and got the Milgauss GV with the original black dial. Haven't regretted it once. I dont care if that Daytona is worth 100k one day, I'd choose the Milgauss again!
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
In the last couple months, I passed on a no date Sub, a blue DJ41 with fluted bezel on jubilee bracelet, and a grey DJ41. If I had bought any of those I likely couldn't get the Milgauss which was, of those models, the only one I requested.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, flashbacks. Exact same experience as me in 2015. Walked into an AD, tried the Z-blue, Polar 2, GMT, Sub and New Daytona... what a time. In the end, you gotta go with your heart when it comes to decisions like these. Love stories like this and thank you for sharing, brother. This hobby is deep!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 Another great story! Great that we follow our hearts instead of our heads sometimes (you gotta do it if the watch is going to stay with you)
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy similar story here matey. Went on amazon and bought my G Shock. No waiting lists . Those were the days 😂.... man I wonder how long it'll take me to get that call regarding the 36mm Explorer
@ngtilui
@ngtilui 2 жыл бұрын
You could have sold the daytona and buy 4 milgauss
@scottreiburnNYC
@scottreiburnNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another truly special, beautifully & fully narrated & filmed, look into the Milgauss. I fell in love with the z-blue the moment I saw it in an advertisement. Went to an AD, couldn’t afford it at the time, but to see it in person? It’s another experience that cannot be captured on film or video- though you have certainly captured it in words. I spent years socking away money, and a few years ago, my AD had just put one in the case. I bought it, humbly, gratefully. Every time I look down at my z-blue, it feels like a special experience, corny as it may sound. To know this has always been an outlier of the brand- a blue, green and orange-headed step child, but something I personally love- gives me added thrill. Who cares what others think? Counterfeiters: Just try to recreate that almost mysterious green hue on the crystal. Thanks again for putting into words what few to no one can about the Milgauss. Very special.
@Maarten_official_account
@Maarten_official_account 2 жыл бұрын
The current reference of the Milgauss is heading for the same direction as the Explorer II. It was overlooked by many and now that they become hard to get everybody seems to want one. Excellent coverage of the history of this underdog.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Maartin! It's always been one of those outlandish models... comparing it to the current lineup it's hard to believe the model actually belongs to Rolex. Nice point referring to the Explorer 2, another model with unique traits that's made it desirable
@tubefriki76
@tubefriki76 2 жыл бұрын
The orange lightning bolt seconds hand complemented by the Zirconium dial is definitely a winning combo for me ⚡⌚👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
It takes an already quirky design and turns it up to 12! I think the design department unanimously said "why the hell not?" when creating it ;)
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos ! In my opinion one of the best channels on KZfaq !
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Junior, thank you. These Retrospectives always manage to rekindle the passion (and I'll be sure to do more in the future) Have a great start to your weekend sir!
@LordDraconical
@LordDraconical 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video, thanks man
@RuisRydo1205
@RuisRydo1205 2 жыл бұрын
The green glass z-blue Milgauss is one of my favourite watches of all time...hopefully I would be able to get one at some point in my future...
@chief_energy5404
@chief_energy5404 2 жыл бұрын
Always well done. Thanks for the great content.
@kallensaczkowski
@kallensaczkowski 2 жыл бұрын
I had the chance to get a sub and I chose this instead. It was the watch I went to the AD for and it just speaks to me. I had a moment of regret about a year later... but today, I am so glad I made the choice I did. Sometimes it stays home because it looks incredible paired with blue jeans, but otherwise I have a hard time matching this watch to my outfit. I've scratched it up because it wears thick and much of the watch is polished....no date ( me or the watch)...no one notices it....it has a friggin lightning bolt for a seconds hand...and ...under the wrong light it looks cloudy and muted...but under the right light it's stunning and completely unique. If i had it to do over again,I still would have left the AD with the same watch...I love that you've done multiple videos on it.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Kallen thank you for this! Love reading stories about owners and their watches. It's been great doing a retrospective on it after like 2 years and funny, the Z-Blue was one of the first Modern Rolexes I experienced back in 2015. Of course in an AD under the lights it looked so, so good... now after getting more wear time with Rolex models out and about, I know what you mean about the flat crystal...One of those quirks about the brand that we have to accept haha! But the Milgauss will always be one of those "head scratchers" and I'm sure the Z-blue will be a special collectable too. Outlandish and gorgeous all in one. Thanks again for the comment brother! Keep wearing yours in good health
@paultaylor2055
@paultaylor2055 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so right, it’s the thinking man’s Rolex, I love my z blue, scratched up, it never leaves my wrist, gym, work, its a beauty
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
It would be a crime if this model is completely discontinued. I got my Z blue a few ago in Zurich after working hard there for 5 years. It was a parting gift to myself before I returned home to Ireland which gives me a real connection to the piece❤️
@dbryant965
@dbryant965 2 жыл бұрын
It's the perfect blend of quirky and classy 👌
@rickonwatches9932
@rickonwatches9932 2 жыл бұрын
Great historical look back @IDGuy! I’ve always liked the quirky Milgauss and I agree there is a strong chance the line gets discontinued in the next few years.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
And your White dial is still one that everyone loves ;) It's been great looking back to these playful designs (that I don't reckon Rolex as a brand today would try to evolve) if anything, they'll make the line simpler again. Ah, but they're great! Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip, Rick!
@yeet-rq7dg
@yeet-rq7dg 2 жыл бұрын
Corrections: 1. The 1019 does not use an oyster perpetual case. Its case is 38mm and isn't shared with any other Rolex. The case seems similar to the Tudor Jumbo watches, though. 2. The 6541 has the option of either smooth bezel and rotating bezel. The difference between the 6541 and 6543 is that the 6541 has the lightning bolt hand instead of straight hand (it's disputed whether any 6543s came from the factory with the lightning bolt). The 6541 has a slightly different case. Finally, the 6541 has an extra inner caseback that the 6543 didn't have.
@dogbearglobal9258
@dogbearglobal9258 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done… always enjoy your retrospectives
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Need to do more of these in the future - its been like 2 years since I last covered the Milgauss properly! Crazy how time flies... Thank you as always DogBear!
@ALLinHerMovements
@ALLinHerMovements 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Milgauss Black GV and I think it’s the most playful watch Rolex makes. Whether they discontinue it or not, I think it’s easy to predict that the green crystal, which seems a pain to make, will not survive the next iterations. To me the GV is the wildest design choice that will be so special in the future. Thank you for showing this model some love.
@btmontres1423
@btmontres1423 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful story about the past, present, and maybe future of the Milgauss. Truly love the lightning bolt seconds, green crystal, and iron cage making for a tank of a watch. Rightly or wrongly this design takes me to the 1950s every time I put it on.
@suavedhaval1
@suavedhaval1 2 жыл бұрын
The Z-Blue is my fave all time watch. So different and quirky - and it feels nice to wear a Rolex not everyone else also owns!
@bobone6554
@bobone6554 2 жыл бұрын
Great video again, love your work!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Bob and thank you for taking the time to watch the clip! These kinds of retrospectives always bring back a fascination with certain pieces for me ;)
@deech2086
@deech2086 2 жыл бұрын
Another great and useful video. Wonderful stuff. Always been fascinated by this line, thought of adding one but leaning Breguet for my next one.
@michaelcox8392
@michaelcox8392 2 жыл бұрын
Great review giving so much information on the history of the Milgauss,
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Michael! The origins of this watch adds a great dynamic to what we see today. Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip!
@IlluminatingWatches
@IlluminatingWatches 2 жыл бұрын
I like the science / scientist type connection it has. The lightning bolt seconds hand also a classic
@mr_watchaddict3146
@mr_watchaddict3146 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I’m grateful for the amount of work you put into these, and particularly as the Z Blue is one of my favourite watches…likely soon to be one that got away, agreed. (This and the white dial 39mm OP). I really feel this at any price at the moment will be a good purchase as the value will skyrocket in a few years from now, but primarily because I absolutely adore it. My smile goes deeper when I see this one.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, always a pleasure sharing these Mark. It's been 2 years since I covered the Milgauss and it was great getting back into the discussion again. Had the opportunity of trying the Z-Blue at an AD eons ago and it's very striking to say the least. It doesn't feel like a Rolex at all (surprisingly) Thanks for taking the time to watch the clip, brother! And keep your eyes peeled (Those Z-Blues are still out there) ;)
@juanluisgonzalezb.4736
@juanluisgonzalezb.4736 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a coincidence! I am currently sending you photos of the blue version which I swapped the older (few months LOL), for! Excellent as always video. Thank you!
@juanluisgonzalezb.4736
@juanluisgonzalezb.4736 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, Hamilton made quirky second hands Before Rolex's Milgauss. And, asymmetrical designs before Patek as well.
@itsveryhotinhere
@itsveryhotinhere 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks, @IDGuy
@samjep2
@samjep2 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are just first class 👌
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million Sam! It's all about the passion ;) And these retrospectives definitely make me more excited to cover topics again with a few more years under the belt.
@caliberyqg2137
@caliberyqg2137 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the Milgauss. Was one of the first Rolex's I saw years ago that made me realize that I can like Rolex. Love the modern ones with the green crystal. Love the old vintage ones, especially with the touch of red. Been surprised how nice the prediction renders have been for the last couple of years with the predictions that the current Milgauss will be discontinued. Hopefully the replacement will be like some of these.
@neelsengupta662
@neelsengupta662 2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved the blue milgauss, such a unique design
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
It manages to somehow be kinda casual but attract attention and questions at the same time without looking too much like a Rolex. Crazy cool (considering how identifiable the brand is today) Thanks as always for the comment Neel!
@alvinmick218
@alvinmick218 2 жыл бұрын
A well reasoned and informed overview of a most eccentric watch! While I personally am not drawn to this particular model, I can still appreciate its quirkiness and design. Thanks for covering it!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about the modern examples Alvin, thank you! The vintage pieces definitely speak to me more, but it's that whole development. The ebb and flow of an adventurous design that was tamed and then made adventurous (and will probably be tamed again) Such a bizarre background to these models. Thanks for taking to time to watch the clip and for your comment!
@russellharris5072
@russellharris5072 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the watches Rolex make,I find the Milgauss to be the most appealing both in it's current form and the old bezel version..........................
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a rebirth of the original 6543 with Rotating bezel... reminds me so much of my 57 Seamaster with all the triangles used at the quarters etc. 50's designs just pull at my heartstrings... Really digging how unassuming the new models are too (unrecognisable to most) Thanks as always for the comment Russel!
@thomasont
@thomasont 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic coverage and justice for the Rolex Milgauss. I will be getting the Z-Blue dial in the future as I have been wearing the White dial version in different coloured leather and rubber straps variations, customised jubilee and president bracelets. I like this unique flexibility of this watch and understandably, the watch had generated some interest from friends and onlookers alike. Though the white dial wasn't mentioned in your video, I'll take that as a hidden secret that none knows about. Thanks for your video with best regards. 😎👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomason, all of the modern examples take an adventurous approach (that I don't think we'll see again from the brand) and now today with everyone falling in line to find the same models, these still manage to go against that uniformity. Who knows what it will mean in the future, but these Milgausses all scream FUN ;) Thanks for taking the time to watch the clip, brother!
@thomasont
@thomasont 2 жыл бұрын
Likewise brother @@ID-Guy😎👍. I agree with you and I would sum up these modern Milgausses as chameleons with unique potentials (Covert Specialty-Unique Watch Position) to which I am glad to have the opportunity in owning one 😎👍.
@oysterman962
@oysterman962 2 жыл бұрын
I have only recently appreciated the design of the Milgauss. Admittedly, I had overlooked this model due to the bad press & the hype of the other Professional models that have removed focus away from the Milgauss. I have 6 Rolexes (No-date Sub, Sea Dweller, Polar Explorer II, Explorer 39mm, Oysterquartz and a blue Explorer dial Oyster Perpetual with fluted white gold bezel). It wasn't until I started converting cheap clock dials into Rolex clock dials that I enjoyed the Milgauss design more than the other boring Rolex designs which are all similar. It is so refreshing, colourful & playful to recreate, I really enjoyed making the Milgauss clock over the other models. Especially the orange lightening bolt which I cut out from sheet metal and hand painted. It looks so striking against the black dial. Then I started looking into my own Rolex collection. Apart from the 36mm blue Explorer dial OP (which is now discontinued & prices have gone up due to the popularity of coloured OP dials and the rerelease of the 36mm Explorer), they all pretty much look the same and now I actually want to add a Milgauss to spice up my collection. Regardless of it's purpose as a scientific watch, if you look past the irrelevance of the function and just focus on the design, I think you will appreciate it more. Besides, it can be argued that any mechanical watch these days is redundant now that you have a mobile phone. So why would you claim the Milgauss any more impractical than a Sub? No one actually dives with a Sub nowadays and you could recreationally dive with a 100m waterproof Milgauss all the same. I think once the Milgauss is discontinued and in 5-10 years from now, collectors will look back at the design and appreciate how fashion forward and funky it is. Especially now that dress watches are less popular and wearing a suit and tie is no longer the norm as people work from home in more casual environments, the fashion of watches should follow. I would prefer to spend my time in isolation, working from home looking at a colourful watch dial that will cheer me up rather than a boring monotone, dull, depressing dress watch. Perhaps that could be a topic of discussion?
@KeepingWatchUK
@KeepingWatchUK 2 жыл бұрын
Love your design mock-up! The black, silver & red accents work so well. Implemented in 39mm with a brushed bracelet (not overly keen on the polish of the current design) I’d be all over it!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Martin, I can't take credit for that design (but it's what I would do - maybe removing the bezel) Monochrome Watches did that render a year or two ago and it looked brilliant! Man, it would be so good if they were to bring back that aesthetic though... yet another model that would be impossible to buy ;)
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting and for me anyway a very educational video on the Milgauss. I've pondered one of the more recent ones a few times but there was always something else ahead of it. Maybe one day I'll have the chance to get one who knows.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
It'll always be one of those "head scratcher" models in the Rolex lineup (especially judging their current lineup) BUT we could see a shift if they decide to go down the more conservative route in the next few years. Who knows with Rolex ;)
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I completely agree.
@jroobz
@jroobz 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the white dial milgauss is a dream. I love that watch
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
They are slick and unlike anything else. Often wonder why they chose to add aged radium style lume to the dial? Maybe the design department were like "why the hell not?" ;)
@vintageswiss9096
@vintageswiss9096 Жыл бұрын
I'm finally on the list for my z blue! Here's hoping it comes in one day :D
@russell996
@russell996 2 жыл бұрын
Superb video. 👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always Russell!
@bennytudor5313
@bennytudor5313 11 ай бұрын
Best investment of all Rolex’s in Z blue. These are gonna be crazy valuable moving forward.
@SJCB27
@SJCB27 2 жыл бұрын
A beacon of understated class in a sea of ostentation... Zee Blue? Or that gorgeous white face? Along with the Explorer 1, probably the only Rolex offering I'd consider wearing.
@diegorv111
@diegorv111 2 жыл бұрын
White Milgauss is amazing. Elegant, different, incredible good colours combination, it's the best "strange Rolex" the brand ever built.
@reedgrabowski8314
@reedgrabowski8314 2 жыл бұрын
I have always been enamored with the Milgaus. I 💙 the Z-blue. As a watch, it is an anomaly, and that is why I like it. Could it be a perfect one watch? Especially in these days where the Omega Aqua Terra functionally blows it away? Hmmmm ... I will have to ponder. 🔎
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Must say Reed, the Omega diehard in me would always say AT first... movement's are top grade (plus it comes with a date) It's more balanced, has more interesting case design elements...argh. Sometimes thinking with your head and not with your heart can be the problem, maybe that's another dynamic to add?
@reedgrabowski8314
@reedgrabowski8314 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy Like you, Omega is a shining star on my list
@Low-KeyCollector
@Low-KeyCollector 2 жыл бұрын
Would anyone know what the Rotating Bezel on the Transitional 6543 is used for?
@Sebastian85
@Sebastian85 Жыл бұрын
Could somebody please explain the use of the rotating bezel on the 6541? Thank you.
@jeffreywee2895
@jeffreywee2895 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful dial among all rolex lineups.
@organix88
@organix88 2 жыл бұрын
“Everything’s coming up Milgauss”!
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
Lower those eyebrows!……and the other one!😁
@therodentryresistance95
@therodentryresistance95 2 жыл бұрын
The Rolex AirKing is even more unappreciated, if I had the money I'll get one now for sure
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
That video will be up next. I'd love to do a retrospective on the Air-King (think it was 2 years ago when I last covered it)
@bobone6554
@bobone6554 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you there, I actually prefer the non polished centre links, hands and the dial!
@gregcapella5941
@gregcapella5941 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Greg thank you so much for the donation. This is the first time that KZfaq has given me this feature and I'm so glad it works. Have an excellent start to your weekend and thank you for taking the time to watch the clip!
@underachievingwatchcollect1878
@underachievingwatchcollect1878 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll admit that I ignored the Milgauss just doesn’t do it for me 🥱. Great overview.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one, brother. It's also probably the last time we'll be seeing such a quirky example too ;)
@goldbond1180
@goldbond1180 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt the Milgaus a boring design until I saw a colleague wearing one, then I got it. It’s a beauty.
@Watches_Radios
@Watches_Radios 2 жыл бұрын
Got one awesome in Z Blue, investment wise it’s should only increase. Buy Buy Buy
@outtagoodnamesdangit
@outtagoodnamesdangit 2 жыл бұрын
It seems folks have been predicting the discontinuation of the Milgauss for a few years, but it's still here. Why do you think it will be dropped? And why drop it instead of their real unloved watch, the Celini?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that we've all had this idea percolating for years and it still hasnt happened. Maybe it's just a stock clearing exercise? Maybe they feel like the Milgauss addresses a few areas that other pieces don't? With the new OP's added, something tells me the Milgauss will be dropped (for at least a few years - maybe only brought back in 2024 for its anniversary?) Too many questions... As for the Cellini... lord knows why it's still there haha!
@jeanlefranc3817
@jeanlefranc3817 2 жыл бұрын
Bring me this gorgeous Tiffany signed white dial vintage Milgauss. 😍
@karl_m3013
@karl_m3013 2 жыл бұрын
I am of two minds. On the one hand, I am glad to have seen a few of the older models and learn a bit about the history. On the other hand, it's a pretty irrelevant watch in the grand scheme of things with a look that is very dated and kinda quirky. A show about some quirky watches from the 50s/60s that are still around and talk about the design elements would be interesting. The Hamilton Ventura and the Cartier crash come to mind.
@impexRQ
@impexRQ 2 жыл бұрын
I understood this is the only Rolex model Which has not been faked due to the very difficult production of the green bezel … If that’s true … this might be the best model available
@David-mh6dd
@David-mh6dd 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I’ve wondered about the old-school Milguass is why the numerals are single digits (e.g. 3) instead of double (e.g. 30) like the Submariner. Is it still for timing stuff within the hour?
@fayezalshoaibi
@fayezalshoaibi 2 жыл бұрын
What you think about Air King 116900 It’s same movement caliber 3131
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great piece well worth discussing! I'll be sure to do a retrospective on the Air-King in the future (it's also been about 2 years since I covered the watch last) Thank you for this Fayez!
@pauloshea2383
@pauloshea2383 2 жыл бұрын
Love my polar dial, falling out of love with Rolex but this is a keeper
@vintagedigital108
@vintagedigital108 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be the same design cased in the old 39mm explorer or 41mm but slimmer? Let say of they want to control the grey market price, they would do the same just like the explorer 2.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
They could easily just recase these dials (not a bad idea seeing them put into a 39mm case) BUT who knows. Maybe the reason why they haven't discontinued them yet is because they still have lots of stock? Difficult to pinpoint. Thanks for this Adil!
@terrybeach2032
@terrybeach2032 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a new black dial, green crystal in 2019 in Toronto and I’m glad I did. I enjoy it.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Terry! It looks unlike anything else that Rolex makes, what did I say? A jazzed up Oyster Perpetual with a few tricks up its sleeve? Keep wearing it in good health!
@stewartlogan9894
@stewartlogan9894 2 жыл бұрын
Fun video for a fun watch
@awony1
@awony1 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked it
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 2 жыл бұрын
The 1019 is a good looking watch, but the modern one just looks comical, the coloured crystal & second hand just look silly imho... Enjoyable and interesting video tho, Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from those 1019's, I think all of these models have had a "comical" theme to them over time. Something tells me that these modern examples won't be around for long (at least, their designs will go down a more "conservative" route) And thank you Steve! As you know, the history of these bizarre models always fascinate me ;)
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
It is funny how opinions differ and that’s what makes the hobby great. I personally love this model and to me, the new two tone explorer is comical🤷🏻‍♂️
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 2 жыл бұрын
@@biohayzer Agree on all points mate 👍🏻
@georgehave
@georgehave 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for Mr. good watch. An expedition, like Lewis and Clark, to find the elusive interest of the public. All the twists and turns, that sometimes lead nowhere. Like the look of the watch but does not grab me.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly it! They've been spending 50+ years trying to gauge public opinion with so many peculiar designs. Isn't cool to see the brand try to be adventurous with their professional models instead of following the usual formulaic approaches?
@georgehave
@georgehave 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen many examples in all areas of life, where they decide to change something that is working.
@allenmontrasio8962
@allenmontrasio8962 Жыл бұрын
Not that I'm in the market for one, but the green crystal would really put me off a Milgauss.
@sgcitizen1063
@sgcitizen1063 2 жыл бұрын
Demand is picking up that it is going over the retail price now; Rolex Miglauss is so well created that one looks you can identify it, and is the experience of wearing it. Rolex got it right. Best to stop production now.
@stewartwallace9016
@stewartwallace9016 2 жыл бұрын
One day
@atoast9768
@atoast9768 2 жыл бұрын
A gradient dial to mimic the electron point-charge distribution could be cool. I disagree that technician watches have no future, though. If we take technician watches to basically embody practicality + resilience + precision + discretion, I can envisage something eg made of hardened steel or ceramic, antimagnetic + water resistant, sharp hands + elongated minute markers, with digital jumping-second (Vagabondage style) or slide-rule bezel as complications to jazz things up
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I know Omegas current watches are almost all rated to 15k gauss, but you said most watches made are anti-magentic up to 15k gauss or more? I'm not sure thats true.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, threw that figure out too quickly (not all pieces are rated that high) - must've been a slip because I talk about Omega and their ratings so often. Quite interesting that nowadays some watch brands use "tesla" as a unit of measurement with the resistance ratings too. Couldn't find any definite figures on the actual resistance rating of the Milgauss but it is Greater than 5000 Gauss ;)
@blainecole5452
@blainecole5452 2 жыл бұрын
@9:05 the Omega dial reads >15,000 gauss, but that is only one example.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
@@blainecole5452 ok, but thats what I said. I know Omega watches reach that level (one of many reasons I prefer Omega) and Tudor just release one model that also reaches 15k gauss protection, but its not common that a watch has that kind of protection. .
@blainecole5452
@blainecole5452 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 So, you don't care for comments that agree with yours?
@edwardypark
@edwardypark 2 жыл бұрын
What does it say about Rolex the brand that the Milgauss is quirky and fun? It’s relative I suppose. Unrelated point - It is just me or are terms like like tool watch, professional watch and sports watch used so interchangeably that its confusing.
@MrPetermc199
@MrPetermc199 2 жыл бұрын
Out of time - Timeless? A proper tool watch...
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I found that "Out of Time" has a meaning linked to it "being of another / different time" which worked quite well when looking at how these models all evolved ;) A fascinating piece of Milgaussian history when we look to their designs. Love it. Thanks for the comment Peter!
@MrPetermc199
@MrPetermc199 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I like your approach to watch design; not only do you talk of the design of the watch, but also the time period in which the piece was designed/created. I often think the latter is often as interesting if not more...
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine 2 жыл бұрын
It needs to be 36mm. Otherwise, it's perfect.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine them bringing back a 1019 (maybe the only tweak being the lightning bolt hand) in 36mm's... wow, we'd go crazy for it. Thanks for the comment David!
@QBelly
@QBelly 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem I've ever noticed with the Milgauss [or most quality watches] is that the simpletons who 'collect' watches are the ones criticizing them.
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens 2 жыл бұрын
It's the ploprof of antimagnetic watches: it works, but there are better, cheaper, more compact and more practical solutions now. It's the consolation steel professional Rolex.
@vonbon954
@vonbon954 Жыл бұрын
Yes, mechanical watches are archaic compared to digital/smart watches...
@Nefville
@Nefville 2 жыл бұрын
IDGuy, my man! You know what I'm trying to do? I am trying to get Aurel Bacs himself to send you a message that you are rare and attractive. I'm being persistent, I know it will happen! PS love the Z Blue, but a bit big for me, of course if they offered it I'd buy it in a second, but whaddya gonna do?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
You're too good to me Nef ;) The Z-Blue was one of the first modern pieces I tried (in 2015) back when the world was in black and white and everyone walked very fast (and AD's were decent hahaha)
@jonathana2079
@jonathana2079 2 жыл бұрын
Unsuccessful, but in high demand. Good luck finding one at a dealer.
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 2 жыл бұрын
I found one last week
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Like anything Rolex makes in steel... it's unbelievable today! What's it going to be like in 20 years time?
@jonathana2079
@jonathana2079 2 жыл бұрын
@@PepeDeezNutz At an authorized dealer?
@jonathana2079
@jonathana2079 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I don't think I'll care in 20 years. I've gone to Omega.
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathana2079 Yup
@lauriedale6104
@lauriedale6104 2 жыл бұрын
This could be a noob comment... but why do the bezels have the numbers going around 1-5? Not sure how that's useful. Is it something scientific that has gone over my head?
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 2 жыл бұрын
Had the ZBlue but let it go. Nice enough piece but a little chunky and head heavy, bit of a scratch magnet and poor execution of the second hand, the arrow end had metal showing through the paint, the centre was sloppily applied paint and the counterweight had a fibre hanging off it. Rolex QC leaving a little to be desired. Possibly a model for the Chop so prices could spiral but not a piece for me. It’s the quirkiest of the steel sports line and something of a marmite piece. My honeymoon with the watch was sadly short lived. Also a confused positioning, is it fish or fowl? Sports or dress? Sadly falling short in both camps.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great synopsis of your experience with it! The QC issues we're hearing time and time again... and the more we look at it, the more it does have this "out of touch" feel in the current lineup (especially among the professionals) Maybe they will head back down a more conservative route in the near future. Again, thank you so much for the feedback on your experience with the piece!
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy it’s even confused on the Rolex website. Here’s a watch supposedly for sporting scientists (ironic straight faced look to camera) who work around large magnetic fields and yet their suggested typical user of such a product is ex tennis player Tim Henman? Magnetic fields and tennis? Odd. They should have enlisted Professor Brian Cox at CERN or some such. With technical advances in watch movement resistance to magnetism these days such a watch is largely redundant.
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you were very unlucky which is a shame and no surprise why you let it go. I had heard about issues like this before I purchased mine so I made sure I inspected it in the AD very well before parting with my money.
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 2 жыл бұрын
@@biohayzer using a x10 loupe to scrutinise a piece costing thousands is worth doing, nasty suprises waiting to be discovered further down the line can be avoided. Although such manufacturing defects can be overlooked on cheaper brands eg Seiko they are not acceptable on Rolex et al.
@rizzobjones7548
@rizzobjones7548 2 жыл бұрын
Dont talk about my milgauss ..The white dial ia my graill watch .. SO please do not talk about them.. The explorer 2 white dial was my other ..Then you guys start talking it ...Then BOOM they are 30% over retail.. So they are ugly
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I deliberately left the white dial out for that reason! I know you've been gunning for one ;) Bloody Exp2's... those polar dials are gorgeous... No, they're hideous! They're all hideous!
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have an Omega Railmaster
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the Omega brand... Must say, I'm with you on the modern examples (because it feels like a better all-rounder) but the older Milgauss' like the 1019's... wow...
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on 👍🏻👍🏻
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy i prefer Omega. I currently have three, and I traded another away. I dont find too many Rolex interesting enough to pursue. The z-blue was worth it.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
Pepe, I've had many chances to get the Railmaster denim dial at significant discounts but something about it just doesn't do it for me. I hope you get and enjoy one.
@ericl755
@ericl755 2 жыл бұрын
When rolex Will stop the MG, the Hunt Will be open and crazy! 🤣
@gelmibson883
@gelmibson883 2 жыл бұрын
Even thosae you can't get at retail no more. Annoyed
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
What is collecting going to be like in 20 years when all the steel dries up??
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
It took one of the SAs I dealt with six weeks to get it and she was competing with seven other SA in her AD to get pieces for the clients. I had no sales history and I was out of state. It can be done.
@fachzentrumkfo
@fachzentrumkfo Жыл бұрын
Rip rip rip Discontinued today
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon 2 жыл бұрын
Nice try to hype something that cannot be hyped.
@stephannordmann5346
@stephannordmann5346 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, Rolex 🤣🤣🤣🤣some peoples believe in this brand .There are more fakes then real ones🤢
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, no doubt. Gotta give the brand merit for being so recognisable but there are plenty of negatives surrounding it too. Don't worry, I'm an Omega diehard ;)
@sergelegault6027
@sergelegault6027 2 жыл бұрын
Very ordinary design + way overpriced = buy a Tudor Black Bay instead
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 2 жыл бұрын
That comment is true of any Rolex watch. Unfortunately I think it failed because it is just not flashy enough for the typical Rolex buyer, if JLC made it it may have been more successful.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
The Black bay is the solution ;) It's been very interesting seeing the increased appreciation and turnaround for Tudor over the last few years. Highly commendable! Thanks for this Serge
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@garyboyle695 That's just it, the model never had mass appeal (and couldn't establish its own niche) so it's been altered countless times but has somehow lasted. The adventure continues ;)
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never understood the hype over the Zblue. It’s the ugliest watch in the entire Rolex lineup.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hype just comes from "it's different" and unlike anything else in the modern professional category. It's a really funky example for sure though & I can totally understand why it's not for everyone ;) Don't worry though, it'll be discontinued soon enough
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, you know, thats just like, uh your opinion man.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimlittle5769 you edited your comment and it still reads like it was written by a third grader lol.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 жыл бұрын
@@whereRbearsTeeth its a movie quote from the Dude in the Big Lebowski.
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine 2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree. That blue just doesn't look good with the green crystal accent. One or the other.
@mendipfox1650
@mendipfox1650 2 жыл бұрын
When you consider the Rolex Milgauss retails for £6,650 here in the U.K. it paints Rolex in a very bad light. A p*ss poor amount of watch for the money. Not sure the Milgauss name is worth saving in the modern era given Rolex’s lack of technological boundary pushing, not to mention what their competition is putting out these days from an antimagnetic point of view. The Milgauss has lost its raison d’etre. My wife has the new Rolex Oyster Perpetual 34mm with the new Syloxi hairspring. Am I right in thinking that this is more antimagnetic than a Milguass. I think it is! What a joke.
@HS-ed3dz
@HS-ed3dz 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of your rant you seem ask yourself a question and then answer it. Perhaps magnetic rays have penetrated your brain!
@mendipfox1650
@mendipfox1650 2 жыл бұрын
@@HS-ed3dz you’ve got a Milguass haven’t you?! Pah! 😂 😂
@HS-ed3dz
@HS-ed3dz 2 жыл бұрын
@@mendipfox1650 Actually no I don't. I'm just curious about what sort of person feels the need to rant about a watch lol
@mendipfox1650
@mendipfox1650 2 жыл бұрын
@@HS-ed3dz debate and discussion makes the world go round my “Rolex loving Fanboy”.
@NEROROYAL
@NEROROYAL 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest we’re not buying it because of the magnetism although that’s useful but we do know that many other watches are offering 15,000 Gauss these days. We buy the Milgauss for his charm its beauty and appeal combined with its individualism. Perfect watch, stands alone and will only be appreciated when it’s discontinued and the price rises accordingly. Get one now Z blue before it’s too late!!
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