The F1 paradox that’s holding Williams back

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Күн бұрын

Alex Albon's committed his long-term future to a Williams team whose 2024 Formula 1 car is much better than its predecessor.
But you wouldn't know from the results that it had improved - if anything the team's in a worse position. We explain why and what Williams is trying to achieve this year.
00:00 The F1 paradox that’s holding Williams back
01:07 Peaky car in 2023
02:17 A consistent car
05:08 Development setbacks
07:04 Reason for hope
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@broccoliface4501
@broccoliface4501 Ай бұрын
Newey should do a "Football Manager" challenge and rejoin Williams for a back-to-front effort
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Newey doing tactics from FIFA MANAGER 14 again...😅
@Jalreal
@Jalreal Ай бұрын
Please please please please please
@tiagoferreira5368
@tiagoferreira5368 Ай бұрын
Newey is to old for that. He will settle for the big money Ferrari offers him. He's not up for a challenge at his age
@etcarief
@etcarief Ай бұрын
says who, he likes challenge ​@@tiagoferreira5368
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121 Ай бұрын
As much as I want him play Fifa 14, the idea of Charles, Lewis, Newy and Ferrari is just to mouthwatering to pass. We need all those 4 together!
@AlexandreMS71
@AlexandreMS71 Ай бұрын
3:16 - It's insane how small is the gap from first to last, I remember the old 107% rule in the not so old days. Newer fans think the gap is big today, they never saw the time when it was usual for the entire field to be lapped at least one time, except for the 2 first places. Some cars where lapped 3, 4 even more times. Today 1% off the pace is huge.
@Jalreal
@Jalreal Ай бұрын
Formula 1 of yesteryear was a total joke for competition between teams, it was all about competition between the top team's drivers.
@fabianmok2206
@fabianmok2206 Ай бұрын
No surprise since they implemented budget caps and higher individual team revenues
@silashug3925
@silashug3925 Ай бұрын
The average Pace compared to RB of Sauber this year would be enough to easily fight for podiums in 2014-2019 for example...
@fix0the0spade
@fix0the0spade Ай бұрын
The 107% rule is still in place, but it basically never comes up nowadays.
@AlexandreMS71
@AlexandreMS71 Ай бұрын
@@fix0the0spade I know but it makes no sense for at least 2 decades.
@outlawfps3948
@outlawfps3948 Ай бұрын
Something worth noting is that Williams also did well last year because the Haas and Alfa were DREADFUL and the alpha tauri was only good past summer break. So the 7th place they earned was inflated for more than just a peaky car.
@ivandenev1104
@ivandenev1104 Ай бұрын
Timing 10/10
@perpetual_bias
@perpetual_bias Ай бұрын
that's...how.. journalism works
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Timing has been ridiculously perfect for Williams obviously.😅
@wamwanch
@wamwanch Ай бұрын
Kinda the point...
@terranova_ca
@terranova_ca Ай бұрын
I don't understand, timing for what?
@perpetual_bias
@perpetual_bias Ай бұрын
@@terranova_ca this video being published within hours of albon's contract extension announcement
@maxafc4695
@maxafc4695 Ай бұрын
I think this shows why you need points further down, otherwise teams are incentivised to build a car that works really well at a few tracks than one that is decent everywhere. Because 1 10th place is better in the championship than 20 11th's
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Consistency is key.
@Sauceyjames
@Sauceyjames Ай бұрын
Points for the 12th place driver but we can't have more than 10 teams? 😒
@arba71
@arba71 Ай бұрын
Agree. Top 10 was sensible back in the '00s when half of the grid retired in almost every race. Nowadays the finishing rate is much higher, probably only 2 or 3 DNFs on average. Top 15 points would be a better choice I think.
@alias19
@alias19 Ай бұрын
Why do they need points? The points-less cars are still ranked on their finishing performances just like every other car. Giving the lower teams points is like the infamous participation trophies. Scoring championship points should be a goal, not a door prize.
@maxafc4695
@maxafc4695 Ай бұрын
@@arba71 yeah I think F1 should adopt MotoGP 's point distribution
@ralphhathaway-coley5460
@ralphhathaway-coley5460 Ай бұрын
I think Williams is a bit of a dark horse and Albon consistently under-rated given that their factory infrastructure is so far out of date (due to lack of investment historically) they are consistently overachieving, and due entirely to Albon. Congratulations to Albon and good luck Williams. Imagine if Adrian returned on an advisory capacity (not that I think he will).
@ehh300
@ehh300 Ай бұрын
I'm really excited to see how this long term reboot for Williams and Alex develops, and I think James Vowels is cooking a meal for us in 2026! (I think they are a top 4 team challenging for podiums in 2026) Will see how this ages xD
@TheOneVLOL
@TheOneVLOL Ай бұрын
it's gonna age poorly
@terrapog8533
@terrapog8533 Ай бұрын
Wow that's bold I strongly disagree but if you somehow get this right good on you I guess
@Nikelaos_Khristianos
@Nikelaos_Khristianos Ай бұрын
Yeah yeah, people said that about Mercedes in 2012…
@GameOver-nm2us
@GameOver-nm2us Ай бұрын
@@TheOneVLOL you can't say so for sure, millions said Hamilton to Mercedes in 2013 is gonna flop, and we all know what happened after
@eternal_trashero
@eternal_trashero Ай бұрын
​@@Nikelaos_KhristianosMercedes had many millions to throw at the project.
@BarbaricAvatar
@BarbaricAvatar Ай бұрын
Being more consistant is the right way to go... for a top team. It's completely the wrong way to go for a lower midfield team. The advantage to a tempremental peaky car is that it has its really good days which then set the team up for the following season. With a consistant car you're guaranteed to be around the same level every race, and if that level is 13th place then you're stuck there with no hope of "the next track will suit us better".
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
If only F1 teams were held to the same “competitive” standard they seem to demand of Andretti: be as competitive as Redbull, Mercedes, and Ferrari or GTFO.
@DaveMurphyEngineer
@DaveMurphyEngineer Ай бұрын
Williams are (arguably) the second most successful team in the sport with 9 Constructors titles - they're also joint third in driver's titles won and third in races started. Form is temporary but class is permanent - if only all F1 commenters were held to the same 'short-sighted' standards....
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
@@DaveMurphyEngineer yeah and it was 2 decades ago. It doesn’t have any relevance now and it doesn’t take away what I said. Andretti is being held to a standard that does not exist in F1 for any team existing now or any team in history. Williams is allowed to flounder as a bottom feeder next to Alpine and Haas, yet Andretti was told specifically they would need to be able to compete with Redbull, Mercedes, and Ferrari from year 1. That was the damn point of the comment. If only all F1 commenters were held to the standard of basic reading comprehension
@into_the_void
@into_the_void Ай бұрын
Newy should join Williams as a challenge... That would be fun to see
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Newey turning Williams into a rocketship like X2010 could be very interesting.
@Jalreal
@Jalreal Ай бұрын
Please please please please
@dwaynehicks6838
@dwaynehicks6838 Ай бұрын
Rejoin Williams , he would would probably never of left them if they gave him what he wanted all them years ago , Williams would probably never have fallen so far and still be winning championships .
@jimiverson3085
@jimiverson3085 28 күн бұрын
@@dwaynehicks6838 Sir Frank has died and the family has sold the team, so the players have changed.
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121 Ай бұрын
For some reason, I have a soft spot for Williams. Perhaps it was the late Frank's personality or its innovative origin and early 2000s record. But there is something nice about them. Last year, Albon brought a lot of excitement to the races and it was kind of a neat story. Hopefully, the consistent approach is the way to go and by 2026 we can have a competitive Williams again!
@selder_7
@selder_7 Ай бұрын
Even with such a volatile driver market, Albon’s best option would’ve been Alpine if a seat became available. Might as well stick where you’re loved and wait for a better opportunity
@CountNoobular
@CountNoobular Ай бұрын
With Carlos turning them down I thought Audi would have been the best choice for him and Audi
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Albon just signed with Williams to end of 2026. Guess he knows why...
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 27 күн бұрын
Alpine is much better, but he’ll have more long term security and be in a leadership role leadership at Williams.
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Ай бұрын
Albon staying at Williams with a multi year deal is perfect for more stability. They need an experienced driver alongside, I think Bottas or Occon would be a perfect fit.
@into_the_void
@into_the_void Ай бұрын
More likely the second seat would go to one of Mercedes young prospects, maybe even Mick Schumacher
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Ай бұрын
@@into_the_void Mick would be a grear addition, but I think Alpinr might need someone with his work ethics in their team.
@ZZPxFTW
@ZZPxFTW Ай бұрын
please not Ocon
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Ай бұрын
@@ZZPxFTW Wolff has a lot of influence at Williams, unfortunately 😅
@triskeldeian4989
@triskeldeian4989 Ай бұрын
I think at this point Albon qualifies as experienced
@joehynes2964
@joehynes2964 Ай бұрын
Lots of teams with upgrades for Imola. Let's all hope for some surprises and a more mixed up grid when the race concludes on Sunday.
@JackNapier22
@JackNapier22 Ай бұрын
You have Red Bull, Ferrari, MB, McLaren, and Aston. All of them are fighting for the top 10 positions. Then when one of them mess up an RB takes the position. Not much you can really do when there are 6 teams that are considerably quicker.
@ethanh3375
@ethanh3375 Ай бұрын
The issue they have by making it a more all-round car is that they lose their advantage in the straight. However it is nice to see that they are focusing on the entire season now
@diederikjournee5580
@diederikjournee5580 Ай бұрын
Very informative (again). Keep up the good work!
@alancx523
@alancx523 Ай бұрын
Yeah, seems to me that Vowles is getting the engineers used to working on a proper "complete" car design, rather than a "peaky" one, while he strives to get them the tools they need to ultimately produce one. Then once he has got what they need, they are ready to exploit it.
@tuttutteddy8889
@tuttutteddy8889 29 күн бұрын
“20 years behind” and “using excel for car parts” kinda sums up Williams being where they are.
@jayman81424
@jayman81424 Ай бұрын
Max, Lando, Charles, Albono....all young drivers staying with their teams long term. Seems team fit is big on the younger drivers.
@cristi-ef6qf
@cristi-ef6qf Ай бұрын
This move is more interesting in the red bull seat situation. Sainz might have a chance now.
@supertouring22
@supertouring22 Ай бұрын
Toxic seat - Sainz deserves better
@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 Ай бұрын
@@supertouring22whether or not he deserves better, the rumor mill is making it out to seem like he’s hell-bent on being in a winning car (RBR) as opposed to a team that actually wants him (Audi).
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
As long as he keeps the current performances I think Red Bull will retain Perez. Lineup stability is important in a team full of instability elsewhere.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Ай бұрын
@@supertouring22 its a dream seat
@deabreu.tattoo
@deabreu.tattoo Ай бұрын
Sainz is gonna be out of a seat if he keeps stalling Audi while waiting for RBR
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 Ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this. F1 is a constructor's championship, the spec race fanbois will never understand that there are multiple battles up and down the grid based on the work from engineers doing actual engineering and not a bunch of tuners with engineering degrees.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Like Andretti.... 😅😅
@huwgrossmith9555
@huwgrossmith9555 Ай бұрын
They got the wheel barrow handles back!
@bryan34wable
@bryan34wable Ай бұрын
There should be a spending allowance clause granted to teams on case by case basis if they can show legit evidence of an infrastructure deficiency to the avg. team. Other wise the spending cap is useless and still hurts lower teams that don’t have the same building infrastructure as larger teams.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
So, like falling behind with your car repayments and you get a bonus anyway?
@bryan34wable
@bryan34wable 29 күн бұрын
@@cwc6632 what??? No. What are you talking about? Yes I understand it was Williams own doing be by falling behind over a decade of the technical and development part of the team but with the current spending cap they will never be able to catch up with other team, even if they are able to spend more money. I’m pretty sure this topic has already been brought up in the past.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 28 күн бұрын
@bryan34wable So they slept on the job. Not the other teams fault. You snooze, you loose.. What's next? Everybody claiming a deficiency in respect of Red Bull?
@BAL54321
@BAL54321 Ай бұрын
2023 Williams gave me hope
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 Ай бұрын
good informative article
@Tomosautchar
@Tomosautchar Ай бұрын
They should do one race a year where the first place driver drives the last place car and vice verse just to see what happens
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
It's called F1 and not "whacky races"
@yawbirak
@yawbirak Ай бұрын
2:30 5 out of 11 is NOT generally
@brysonh6507
@brysonh6507 Ай бұрын
RIP to the Williams nascar 😢
@NotSure416
@NotSure416 Ай бұрын
God, I hope Newey joins Williams.
@EJ0107
@EJ0107 Ай бұрын
Newey to Williams
@1985slipstream
@1985slipstream Ай бұрын
TLDR jack of all trades is master of none.
@strikehawk5754
@strikehawk5754 Ай бұрын
whenever they are in points finish contention K-mag happen
@underSTATEDexcellence
@underSTATEDexcellence Ай бұрын
They ruined their straight line speed which was their strongest point.
@purple4395
@purple4395 Ай бұрын
I hope they invest smartly so they can be at least a good midfield team again.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Or even challenging at the front occasionally.
@totalmadnesman
@totalmadnesman Ай бұрын
They never will be again. This team has been shit for decades now.
@purple4395
@purple4395 Ай бұрын
@@totalmadnesman well there situation is something very different to a few years ago. With the Williams family there was no way it had any capital and all investments stopped long ago. That's why they have to do so much to catch up. But with Dorilton it's something else.
@311superfly
@311superfly Ай бұрын
Its about driver using cars tyre's smart at All tracks. . you gotta believe and invest
@guilhermefonseca1562
@guilhermefonseca1562 Ай бұрын
It's interesting that 2 of the 3 biggest players in this silly season (Alonso and Albon) chose to stick with their teams. I wonder if I'm really going to see the amount of changes I thought we would see this year
@MrReese
@MrReese Ай бұрын
In what world is Albon one of the three biggest players in the silly season? Hamilton, Alonso, Sainz, Perez, possibly even Verstappen are all far above Albon in that regard. What Williams are Albon are doing is not much more than a sidenote.
@GameOver-nm2us
@GameOver-nm2us Ай бұрын
@@MrReese Albon is a very good driver, not the same man that did mistakes in 2020, also, Perez? Better tha Albon? Bullshit
@0Synergy
@0Synergy Ай бұрын
​@@MrReeseReebull has admitted multiple times they wanted him back. He absolutely is a key player.
@MrReese
@MrReese Ай бұрын
@@0Synergy If they wanted him back they would have done it. He is a good driver, but he is a small player in the market compared to several others.
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 Ай бұрын
​@@MrReeseperez verstappen and Alonso are not going anywhere
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 27 күн бұрын
Logan skews the competitive of last year’s car. It was much better overall than it seemed. If they had two Albons, they could have been competing with Alpine. This year, they’re both at the back because Albon can’t do anything with it.
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm Ай бұрын
McLaren has shown what is needed by a customer team running a Mercedes power unit to create a fast “good” car that can podium and now win the odd race for now. Aston did this last year to a lesser extent but only at the beginning of the 2023 season and with no wins. Makes one wonder about the mass and CG of the Mercedes power unit and its influence on car balance with varying fuel load. And how it can be aerodynamically packaged. The redesigned Honda unit that powered Max to his 2021 championship transitioned so nicely into the new downforce generation car. All the experts continually discuss how minor variations severely impact downforce cars. Regardless Williams yardstick for success is both McLaren and Aston. Mercedes shouldn’t get snubbed either because they have faired infinitely better than Williams. But they are not a customer team.
@mannoxv8500
@mannoxv8500 Ай бұрын
F1 games have taught me, speed maxing and making a straight line demon is better for getting results
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Your games are not the real world...
@huwgrossmith9555
@huwgrossmith9555 Ай бұрын
They need to dig out the old Newey drawings!
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Ай бұрын
he may end up there, i thikhe will want to be in england
@huwgrossmith9555
@huwgrossmith9555 Ай бұрын
@@PazLeBon He will retire to his Yacht according to EJ. That said there have to some some clues as to what Williams are getting wrong in those old AN drawings.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Ай бұрын
@@huwgrossmith9555 maybe ;)
@shredderbarry
@shredderbarry Ай бұрын
Their main issue is that they're competing with 1 driver capable of getting points and they're spending their lives fixing parts instead of developing new ones.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Getting rid of Logan would be logic...
@richardvowler1109
@richardvowler1109 Ай бұрын
Along is much happier there and he's been able to show his skill
@XDRONIN
@XDRONIN Ай бұрын
Williams should really consider HAAS as an example of what they need to do, especially with their drivers
@Morcap
@Morcap Ай бұрын
That truth of life - "Take one step backward so you can move 2 steps forward" -, is true in one single condition; Time (timeframe). If you take a step backward right now now you have a maximum time allocation to make the ''two steps forward'' as everything in nature revolves around time. Thus any step backward must be followed by a forward motion in faster timeframe than allocation. Otherwise there will no ''two steps forward'' once the timeframe is redundant. The problem(s) Williams face is the timeframe allocation; they are simply too slow in moving forward compare to other teams. Just a thought.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
You tried to sound clever and failed...
@facts3221
@facts3221 Ай бұрын
I love Williams, I play them in F1 manager and work them back to championships. Beautiful past, time for a beautiful future.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Ask Vowles for a job...
@JF-wz2ls
@JF-wz2ls 16 күн бұрын
The problem is that for 2026 there is a whole new formula, meaning everyone starts over and there is the greatest amount of divergence between the teams. F1 claims to want parity, but in the end every new formula means less parity until the back markers catch up, and then another new formula starts the cycle all over again. This isn't all a strange coincidence.
@RbNetEngr
@RbNetEngr Ай бұрын
Maybe Adrian Newey will re-join Williams and help them get back to the top
@51madmitch
@51madmitch Ай бұрын
There is performance, if we can extract it we can score points, wow that statement must cover all but Redbull, honestly is that worth repeating lol.
@eclypse1259
@eclypse1259 Ай бұрын
It’s just karma for Sargeant getting shafted by the team for Albon’s F up earlier in the season.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Didn't he F himself often enough?
@dannyshoinz
@dannyshoinz Ай бұрын
Perfect timing 😂
@karman79
@karman79 Ай бұрын
Never understood why Sergaent was kept. He must have a good sponsor.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon Ай бұрын
Be much better when Newey is there :)
@deedas
@deedas Ай бұрын
I was MIA from the internet for a couple days. I'm shocked Albono chose a team that won't have a hope to be competitive for another 4-6 years. But then again, it was either Williams or a one-year at Merc with nothing guaranteed for 2026. So, I guess I'm not too shocked.
@GIOGS
@GIOGS Ай бұрын
Probably doesn’t help williams that half of their usable data is in the barriers most weekends
@chad1411
@chad1411 Ай бұрын
it doesn't really make sense to make a more consistent car with lower peaks and higher lows, for a team in the back of the field group. the amount of points scored by these teams across the season is so minimal that you only need a handful of decent points scores like they had last season and you can leap up the order. consistency scoring points matters when you're fighting at the front
@teenybopper777
@teenybopper777 Ай бұрын
The Williams car last year was an example of how teams at the back could be better off going all-in on a specific strength of their car, rather than trying to design an all-rounder that is extremely unlikely to match at least 5 teams on those terms
@Nikoxion
@Nikoxion Ай бұрын
3:16 100,003%
@Alex_Mac_
@Alex_Mac_ 29 күн бұрын
Logan has made gains this season that he isn't being given enough credit for.
@BoyeeSmudger
@BoyeeSmudger Ай бұрын
Still cannot believe they ran everything off from Excel spreadsheets. Bonkers
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
....probably still on Windows XP....??
@BoyeeSmudger
@BoyeeSmudger 29 күн бұрын
​@@cwc6632haha nah, MS stopped supporting that a few years back. Surely not!?
@IanLoughead
@IanLoughead Ай бұрын
Williams should be using Logan at this point to test out setups and race strategies ands let Albon focus on points. Logan in that car is not going to find points with any regularity (if at all) but he could be a useful team player like Kevin at Haas has become.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
I think Logan is as useful as Kevin.... Hart...
@yindyamarra
@yindyamarra Ай бұрын
Hope bottas goes there next year, be great team with albon
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 Ай бұрын
No no no rookie time not an oldtimer in that Williams
@stevenwork95
@stevenwork95 Ай бұрын
I hope Albon can help pull Williams up the grid.
@johnbarker5009
@johnbarker5009 Ай бұрын
I love it when The Race explains how Williams is actually a good team that gets bad results.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
WTF, dude, you're right! 😂😂😂
@joaoalmeida9264
@joaoalmeida9264 Ай бұрын
Thats why they need adrian newey!!
@mauriziofonti7545
@mauriziofonti7545 Ай бұрын
Smart guy..no need to climb..better to lock a seat and enjoy!
@Lamalas
@Lamalas Ай бұрын
Yet more proof that points down to 15th or so instead of just the top 10 would be better.
@damianclark2080
@damianclark2080 Ай бұрын
They will rise again
@givemeabreak8784
@givemeabreak8784 Ай бұрын
Andretti should buy Williams.
@dinocharlie1
@dinocharlie1 Ай бұрын
I don't know what they're smoking but you definitely want a peaky car when fighting for scraps. I'd rather a car that finishes dead last consistently but wins one race than a car that gets exactly 10th all season. The only time it's better to be consistent is fighting for podiums/top 5s and there's almost no way this chassis is ever getting to that point even if every bit of development is the right way. It feels like more of a gamble to rely on a McLaren level upgrade that they don't forsee coming than remain peaky and at least get points here and there.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
I hope Albon's contract extension boosted Williams's result in 2024.
@McRocket
@McRocket 23 күн бұрын
Ummm ...I don't think you mentioned how overweight the car (supposedly) is once. Strange. ☮
@rofalmatt
@rofalmatt Ай бұрын
go alex and williams :D
@yahyarajaee5883
@yahyarajaee5883 Ай бұрын
Hearing about "development setbacks" makes you wonder if Andretti would really do a worse job if they joined.
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Yes, they would do a worse job. Andretti never designed a car they raced.
@bighammer3464
@bighammer3464 Ай бұрын
Ahh so they caaaaan be good if only they were faster. Great philosophy Williams
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan Ай бұрын
I think he made right choice
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 Ай бұрын
My big Q is: Does Alex know something we don't - or, does he accept he can't get the second Merc seat and has no better options than where he is?
@chadwickstephen
@chadwickstephen Ай бұрын
Part of me was kinda hoping we would see Alex in the other Mercedes seat.
@vannustube
@vannustube Ай бұрын
hm. 'peaky' might be better for getting sponsorship money as you can show you are getting into Q3. consistent is good when it is consistently getting into Q3. not so good if it is never getting into Q3.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Ай бұрын
Yeah no consistency, but you can't say Logan is getting the most out of the Williams to help the car's development
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 Ай бұрын
Erratic chassis performance - What other car on the grid is that like???
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 Ай бұрын
ohh, hang on - which team was Toto a major share holder in ?? ohh, hang on - which team was Vowles a senior member of ??
@BigBampot
@BigBampot Ай бұрын
Williams is a great environment for Albon
@shitoryu8
@shitoryu8 Ай бұрын
Idk, something about James tells me this team is still on the right track.
@adamb2619
@adamb2619 Ай бұрын
Its dealings with Toto and Mercedes need to break away.
@JGrayUSA
@JGrayUSA Ай бұрын
3:01 Logan Sargent did not SIT OUT of the Aussie GP. Call it what it is. He was benched.
@BeneathTHeaveans
@BeneathTHeaveans Ай бұрын
So he sat out?
@yellow_x522
@yellow_x522 Ай бұрын
@@BeneathTHeaveans He got pushed out.
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 Ай бұрын
Logical
@RatchetGamingNation
@RatchetGamingNation Ай бұрын
Also like the cheeky comment about Daniel Ricciardo "crashing into Albon" even though the Suzuka incident was entirely Albon's fault. The journalistic biases are showing pretty heavy in this video.
@BeneathTHeaveans
@BeneathTHeaveans Ай бұрын
@@RatchetGamingNation if Ricciardo looked in his mirrors it never would have happened
@ebdbdave
@ebdbdave Ай бұрын
If Williams had a better driver for the second seat, they would’ve scored at least one point this year
@John-sw2mo
@John-sw2mo Ай бұрын
Sargent just isn't getting it done.
@iamalazydog
@iamalazydog Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but it’s time for Sargent to go and get Bottas back experience and race winner driver with development skills is what Williams need can’t depend on one driver to carry the team.
@michaelredford5389
@michaelredford5389 Ай бұрын
More than ever, the teams at the back are relying on misfortune for the top 5 teams, who have a lock out of the top 10 in normal circumstances (Lance Stroll pending)
@dbiker207
@dbiker207 Ай бұрын
The problem with F1 is the rule set. The cost cap is ok but, teams should be able to spend the money HOWEVER they see fit. If they want to spend more time in the tunnel then they should be able to. If they want to develop 20 engines a season they should be able to. If they want to rent a track and spend weeks on it, they should be able to. The current rule set makes it nearly impossible to move up the grid. This used to be an engineering race and it has gotten away from its roots. Fucking bureaucrats have gotten their hands on it and ruined it.
@isocuda
@isocuda Ай бұрын
But Andretti and GM wouldn't be a good addition.
@raytrevor1
@raytrevor1 Ай бұрын
Seems to be a lot of wishful thinking here. Instead of an inconsistent car that sometimes did well, they now have a car that is consistently poor. But it could be, might be, better in the future - or not.
@MuhammadNiz007
@MuhammadNiz007 Ай бұрын
Pin this comment because Williams will have a huge upgrade in Austria to Hungary time span A upgrade package that is so big that it will genuinely be able to fight top 2-5 teams if they remain static which is impossible but that just gives you an idea about the jump they are about to make. Crashes cost money which results in delay of upgrades but it doesn't change the development as that's practically free from any cost cap limitations
@cwc6632
@cwc6632 29 күн бұрын
Ok, I pinned it under "forgettable"
@sarifsamudra9970
@sarifsamudra9970 Ай бұрын
William must Copy What Ducati in Motogp development Just Focuse in Straight Speed make car goes to 400mph so they can wins even decrease 10-50 on corner they can become poidium not back mark team
@jasonwishart6800
@jasonwishart6800 26 күн бұрын
Needs 2 drivers
@BaysideStraw
@BaysideStraw Ай бұрын
Logan may not be as fast as Albon during quali, but he is doing okay in the race and moving forward. Albon is also destroying car after car due to driver error. Logan is getting a bad reputation because his team just doesn't believe he can do the job they hired him for.
@FoxMrD_1
@FoxMrD_1 Ай бұрын
How is this paradoxical? The easiest way of being consistent is to be consistently slow. Being consistent in isolation is not a desirable goal. You want to be consistently FAST, otherwise you can do like Sargent, just consistently end up on the wall. Your results will be consistent, consistently unsatisfactory.
@T_Mo271
@T_Mo271 27 күн бұрын
So the Williams has lost its straight-line speed advantage, and now it's just bad everywhere, and they don't understand how to fix it.
@Gamertrix117
@Gamertrix117 Ай бұрын
In reality, nice guy but no real other options to stay on the grid. Everyone looks good against his current teammate.
@alanhillyard1639
@alanhillyard1639 Ай бұрын
Who gives a shit if its less peaky if its not delivering results. Most teams would be aiming to deliver the best possible results against the resources available, and for a team as low as williams designing a car that can occasionally be brilliant is much better than being a bit less mediocre all the time 🤷🏼‍♂️
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