Sounds like u grew up in a sunny version of Manchester. Mark E Smith was fuckin real. No fake shit here. U have great taste in music.

He says in Renegade that The Fall had an especially big Latinx following in San Francisco. Such an incredible band. We'll never see M.E.S's like again, that's for sure. I briefly spoke to him once during the later years (2012) and he was very nice, thanked him for the music, said "you and the band just keep getting better and better and keep putting out absolutely belting records, thanks so much, Mark!" He said: "Thanks very much cocker, that's really nice to 'ear". He looked like he was in a hurry to the bar so I didn't want to push it any more...plus they were great that night, it was in London and they did two nights, my Sis lives there so I decided whilst my ears were still ringing waiting on the last train that I was going to see the next gig! And do you know what?--I DID!

@@questionitall3053 Have you seen the "It's Not Medication, It's Perspiration" doco on here that was filmed from 2004-2013? It has the most banging version of "I Am Damo Suzuki", and this is with the Eleni, Ben, Spencer Birtwhistle and Jim Watts version of the band. Or the "Traitors, Liars, C**ts" band as they came to be known, lol! Except from Eleni, of course...Great stuff. EDIT: It's actually called "It's Not Repetition, It's Discipline", sorry! If you like the early-to-mid-2000's line up it's particularly gratifying. That version of "Damo Suzuki", though, damn

@@questionitall3053 I was thinking the same thing, but couldn’t work out how to say it. Ta

I grew up in the next town on from Prestwich , but my Dad’s from there. It’s been a bit run down, like the rest of this part of England since the 70’s . Coming from the provincial city of Manchester and being working class. Makes you feel a little bit of an outsider. I’m guessing this has something to do with people who grew up in your situation relating to Manchester music. It’s cool how are two countries have a mutual respect for each other’s music and culture.

Lmao, they take up the bulk of my collection too, but I'm the type of nutter who wants every pressing of every LP...finally scored the white with black splatter edition of Fall Heads Roll! That is the Holy Grail of my collection! So I have both the Narnack pressings, thinking about getting the UK pressing, but it's all on one record, which seems silly. The bass on that LP will knock your damn head off! Also you're very lucky to have seen them so much! Good for you fellow Fall fiend!

what is indisputable is that you have very good taste

@All Eyes On You no i did not, that's not cool at all. Very disappointed. : (

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Too early. I dunno. I’m stunned and I’m sure he was stunned he made it to 60. Jesus he was an unstoppable force like

Aye. Mark would have still found a way. Respect from Newcastle.

Can't imagine he'd have had much time for the restrictions and pub closures.

Must get it.

Where did it go all wrong ?

Nathan Parsons Steve Hanley was the musical backbone of classic Fall. Him and Magazine's Barry Adamson got me into the bass.

@@terrypussypower ...can get that ..Hanleys ' chunky sound ' was much of the reason the Fall were great ( with Marc ,Karl etc)...Magazine bass /guitar + Keys were musically top quality...

Late reply but I'm reading it at the moment! I've had so much Fall stuff on CD-R/tape; I've started (re)-collecting my (sold) collection. Great Cherry Red reissues, I played the Hex tape I was given (a copy) so much that it was virtually unlistenable, and the tape of Dragnet from my mate's shit hi-fi....I listened to it three times, but knew there was something there...I just couldn't fucking hear it! Now I've got a decent vinyl reissue I'm playing the bastard 3 times a week at least, it's incredible! Getting into the late stuff too--Sub Lingual, Post-Reformation, New Facts Emerge...who else is left now from the @post-punk" generation who never stopped gigging and recording?! The Bad Seeds? Pere Ubu (though there seems to be a health problem with David Thomas)? They're the only ones who never split up and reformed 'cause they were skint years later, u2 don't fucking count, very, very few bands had the endurance and legacy of M.E.S and The Fall. Rest In Power Mark E.Smith

perhaps tell how it was?

I'm totally jelly

He then pauses and says to the interviewer: "Think about it." Very wry bit of humour there.

That you Mark?

Morrisey is an absolute tool. Mark E Smith said that years ago and he was rightt

when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..

Danny Cheesums exactly

Its so true, listen to The Faces ' Long Player ' no producer credit, Martin Birch as engineer. Eno and those 80s guys killed rock music.

Like Liverpool had a strong Catholic working class, though Smith is clearly of a Protestant background and is occasionally dismissive of his Catholic band mates. I met him before he formed the group and he was open and said I could join without having heard anything. I doubt it would have lasted long. Strangely saw him in a local pub in the area of London where I have lived since 1980 not long before he died. Stood outside.

@@Jlipnicki MES asked you to join the fall?! Lol, brilliant. Were you two mates or something? And yea, Liverpool was extremely influential, too. Bands from the north west captured British working class culture better than any other area. Northern bands did that much more successfully than southern bands. Partly because they were genuine, no pretention. They were factory workers, into football and pubs etc, proper working class lads. Whereas southern bands were more middle class. Very self aware. Art school types. But then punk was a cockney thing, wasn't it? So maybe I'm talking bollocks lol. But still, Manchester, and the north east, were the heart and soul of British culture for decades. Without a doubt

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hunter s thompson

+IMMER160 Whose favourite album was "Dragnet"!

derek and ray dragnet

+terrypussypower Hunters favourite album was dragnet ? Where did you hear that?

***** I've just realised I'm talking an absolute load of piffle, it wasn't Hunter S Thompson at all, it was Philip K Dick! And it was MES who said it on Radio 4 some years ago.