*sigh* Emil gives us Nate's backstory, tries to backpedal it, AFFIRMS it while doing so, and goes on to say "whatever the player did is what's canon". Okay, then New Vegas ends with an NCR victory and the TV show is wrong. Done and dusted.

Surprised you didn’t mention the elephant in the room that is The Master. Vault 33 should be long gone. He has maps of every vault

The best summary of what Bethesda has made of the fallout universe could be expressed by Ulysses: "They brought me before the campfire one night, showed me how they changed themselves, how they wore their hair now. It was like my entire dead tribe in the firelight, teeth grinning red in the dark - eager corpses, blood-covered ghosts. They... had taken my braids, the way of the Twisted Hairs, as if it showed they were like me, of me... ...while every knot in their braids spoke of raping, violence - and ignorance of what the knots meant. They thought to show respect... defiled it. Lost myself in trying to read the braids they wove, when I remembered they had put no meaning in it. They had no history of what it meant. They didn't even know the insult in the twists, knots... and Dry Wells came rushing back, the White Legs circled like that... It was like looking at the dead of my tribe, reborn as ghosts - hateful, hungry, bowing to Caesar. Another history... gone, carried by me alone." Bethesda and Amazon only mimic Fallout theme without undestanding it.

Not only is her Vault real close to the Boneyard, it's about a fart sniff's distance from the Cathedral. The equivalent of three vaults in one location, within pissing distance... of The Master.

the funniest thing for me is how the settlement of Philly is structured so much like a Bethesda game city. Like you have the place surrounded by high walls with only one large entrance in, then the interior is incredibly small to help performance. Why is Philly build like we have to worry about performance issues in a tv show?

I think the best way to describe the era of entertainment we’re in is the “Jingling Keys” era. It’s not even fan service anymore.

"They brought me before the release date for Fallout 3 one night, showed me how they changed themselves, how they wore their development now. It was like my entire gaming studio: Interplay in the firelight, teeth grinning red in the dark - eager corpses, blood-covered ghosts. They... had taken my lore, the way of classic Fallout, as if it showed they were like me, of me... ...while every programming and direction in their gameplay spoke of raping, violence - and ignorance of what the consistency meant. They thought to show respect... defiled it. Lost myself in trying to read the lack of a creative narrative they have written , when I remembered they had put no meaning in it. They had no history of what it meant. They didn't even know the insult in the themes, ideals... and Interplay came rushing back, Bethesda circled like that... It was like looking at the dead of my intellectual property, reborn as ghosts - hateful, hungry, bowing to Todd Howard and Emil paragulio. Another Fallout... gone, carried by me alone."

Books, tv-shows, videogames etc.: everything nowadays is "enjoy product and be excited for next product". Never pre-order, FOMO is for pussies, dare to wait a couple years for the 95% discounts and enjoy whatever you get for whatever it is. Or pirate EVERYTHING and only put money into something when it's deemed worthy then...

All of bethesdas lore and writing problems lead back to one individual. Emil Pagliarulo. Destroyed Fallout.

The show hasn't crashed yet I'll give it that, never played a fallout game without it crashing

Isn’t Los Angeles(The boneyard, as you mentioned) where Morpheus and The Master are? I’ve only ever played the first game, but I’m pretty sure they were looking for vaults

Yet another franchise killed by corporate greed.

*Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter...*

I was saying in a Fallout group let's have both Obsidian AND Bethesda have access to the Fallout license. Obsidian gets the West Coast and Bethesda gets the East Coast. That way You can appease fans on both sides. I've been playing Fallout since 97 so I'm a hard-core Obsidian loyalist so 1, 2 and New Vegas all the way. I'm fine with Bethesda fans having their games just let us have our versions too with all the Lore, Skills, Traits ect intact.

For me, it wasn't about Fallout lore (Although there is problems there) Most of the thing was written for COVENIENCE as a result SO MANY THINGS are not consistent. also didn't like how hard they tried be 'quirky' it appearss to be written for CHILDREN and completeely undermines any feeling of DANGER. I'm no movie critic, but myself just get getting slapped in the face with things that don't match up or make sense.. Going back watching a second time realize most of the show isinconsistent and made up as they went along.. If I were a Movie critic and/or Falout fan could make a 12 hour video on how many things this show does wrong.

I remember Pete Hines saying that they're "not going to keep their games limited by the past" (to paraphrase) to justify the kid in the fridge bullshit and not caring about established lore. Fallout 1 tells us what happens when you deprive a city of ghouls of water! Todd and Emil barely respects The Elder Scrolls lore and retconned plenty of stuff in Oblivion and Skyrim. Fallout is nothing but a cash cow to them. 😢

Ohh, my own canon? Everything after 2 is the Chosen One's fever dream.

It’s tragic that the only rebuttals to this video I’ve read in the comments are: “it’s sad you care so much to make an hour long video” and “you guys are like a cult”. I’ve also seen people label you a conservative in the comments as if to dismiss everything in the video. I don’t care what your political opinions are but nothing in this video even vaguely expresses a conservative lens or political analysis of the show so I have no clue how it’s relevant. The show to me, as a leftist, is the most shallow criticism of capitalism I think I’ve ever seen. Fundamentally lazy to the core. The show is shit regardless where on the political spectrum you sit Apparently, not enjoying something because it is vastly different from the enjoyment you got out of previous instalments makes you a cult member. None of these people commenting this stuff have any arguments. This is genuine brain rot. You go into depth about how lore wise it doesn’t make sense which to some doesn’t matter. However, you also state how the show does not work on a thematic level and is a severely dumbed down version of those old games. On all levels, this show is just not up to the standard of Fallout 1, 2 and NV. Having this opinion makes you cult member apparently and worthy of attack. To me, only one group is showing a cult like mentality and it’s not the maker of this video

It needs to be stated that multiple YTers talking about this show have received unprecedented floods of specifically worded comments that could very easily be bots. I strongly suspect that much of the "praise" this show gets is entirely fabricated to make it seem more popular than it is... but at the same time there are critics I usually respect who somehow found a way to like this show, so either way there is something very strange going on here. Either recent advancements in AI have lead to some kind of experiment in fabricating media engagement, or standards for media have fallen below some threshold that makes even those who strive to keep consistent standards accepting of stories that not even 5yrs ago they would've ridiculed mercilessly. Probably a bit of both, but in either case, the Fallout show is a cringe-inducing disaster even in complete isolation of established lore, so I accept no excuses from anyone claiming it's good. It isn't fun, it isn't funny, it isn't in keeping with the lore, it doesn't have a single good character or plotline, it has one good performance and some nice shots. Even f**king marvel meets this standard. This show should not be acceptable to anyone.

Remember when Borderlands was accused of aping Fallout? Well, now that Bethesda's dream of Fallout being nothing more than a post-apocalyptic theme park has been realised, Fallout has become a Borderlands clone.

The only part of the video I disagree with is that the tv series retcons weren't an ego driven retaliation for fans placing Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas above the Bethesda slop. They obviously are. The setting of the tv series could have been anywhere. Chicago. St. Louis. The capital. Boston. But no, they specifically picked west coast and LA, specifically decided to include New Vegas game characters in the story, etc. With this being specific choices, the retcons then have be specific choices as well. Why move Shady Sands? Why even make it a story point in the series at all? They could have just made a script reference in actor lines to it. Instead, they specifically moved the location, specifically nuked it, specifically made it a story line with retcons. The ONLY way you can take it is Todd's ego is still hurt that his games are viewed as trash by the OG fans.

My verdict was that the show was essentially a theme park ride with a Fallout theme. Plenty of interesting visuals. But don’t think too hard about the plot.

I'm a long-time Australian Gamer and somehow, I missed Fallout 1&2, maybe I just wasn't into that sort of game, I forget. I only heard about Fallout 3 because there was a major political shitstorm in Australia at the time about violence in games, and the usual band of do-gooders that believed that all gamers would turn into homicidal maniacs because of video games (none I which they played obviously) and of course they were wrong. But they had a problem with Fallout 3 because of the drug use. Morphine was the original name of in-game Med-X and was changed because of this. Anyway, I never played it, or heard of NV, and I only bought Fallout 4 because it was in a discount bin at the local game shop. I bought about 5 games including Fallout 4 but ended up playing something else. I found it in a box when I moved house in 2018 and gave it a try. I was hooked instantly and ended up playing it over 4000 hours, and the mods are awesome. It's probably my favourite game. I found out about NV and all the NV vs Fallout 4 stuff during that. I tried NV and 3 but tbh I had trouble getting into them because of the look (not graphics quality, just the overall look of them) and I didn't like the gameplay a lot, although the stories were good. Anyway, I guess I'm a Fallout 4 fan, and nothing's going to change that, but even I didn't like the show much. As you said it's more of a Fallout theme park experience. I didn't like many of the characters and the story is poorly written. People's motivations to do things aren't normal human behaviour, the explanations of things don't make a lot of sense when you think about them, and pretty all the humour doesn't quite land. Having said that, it's actually miles better than most shows these days. That how bad entertainment is, "it doesn't suck too much" has become the Gold Standard.

The problem I had with the show is it came across too much of a 'piss take' of the originals, being F1, F2 and FNV. The world of these games is gritty, dark and quite bleak. Sure, there's some satire and humour mixed in, but it's quite subtle and not over the top in-your-face like it was done in the show. They drastically overused 50's music to the point where the show felt cheesy and anti-climactic, and the pacing of the first 3 episodes was boring and lacked any kind of excitement whatsoever. The Brotherhood of Steel were made out to be a bunch of complete clowns as well, nothing at all like their mysterious yet capable persona portrayed in the classics. It's clear that Bethesda has destroyed this series and that the show was not made for true Fallout players who appreciate the lore, only a general demographic of casual gamers that couldn't give a crap about a good story and probably started with F4, a mindless looter-shooter completely devoid of susbstance.

The reason the slate of the west coast was wiped cleaned, is because Todd wants Fallout 5 on the west coast. He’s far too arrogant and petty to respect the established lore. He doesn’t want Fallout 5 to be tethered to the classic lore. That’s why the wasteland is post-apocalyptic rather post-post apocalyptic. Also, I want to point out how Bethesda overuses resets in their games and lore. Oblivion can be argued a being a reset for The Elder Scrolls, which erased the weirder lore and worldbuilding of previous games. Skyrim seconded that reset as well, wiping away previous lore again. The end result was Elder Scrolls becoming bland and easily markable to normies. Which again, shows why the Fallout tv series wiped away the old lore and worldbuilding. It's just to reset everything back to square one. It also further dumbs down the lore and worldbuilding to appeal to normies.

I can't believe oxhorn and tks mantis despite making so many lore videos praised this show and dickride it so hard, the absolute shilling is insane. I wouldn't be surprised if bethesda paid those two..

"dont ask questions. consume product and get excited for next product" the show.

The Fallout show is simultaneously a faithful adaptation of the games and canon to them, while you're also supposed to shut up and ignore the changes to said canon and anything that contradicts the games to just enjoy the fun, dumb show because "hahahahaha wacky Fallout." It can't be a faithful adaptation of the games that's canon while at the same time making whatever changes it wants to established rules and lore from the games. If it wants to go off and do it's own thing and be loosely based on the Fallout lore, then fine, do this parody version of a Fallout series. You just can't be pretending it's faithful and canon while you make a parody of it.

Yes, I'm so glad you mentioned fallout being "post" post-apocalypse I would much rather explore how society grows and evolves over the years, than a rubble sandbox looter shooter

Remember when Todd said something like: "Showrunners came to me with the idea of nuking Shady Sands and it shocked me..." Well it makes me think Todd asked them to do it in purpose amongst other things to erase West coast lore and start from scratch (AGAIN). The man tells nothing but lies.

The funny thing is bethesda could have done a post apoc wasteland by place the games only a few years after the bombs fell. Like FO3 makes absolutely no sence being 200 years later but it would make sense to be 30-50 years later at most. Any longer and factions would have cemented themselves and started to rebuild and any shorter and the factions that exist wouldn't have fully formed. When people are able to survive for a while they will figure out a way to thrive and having access to all the tech they had would have meant within a generation or two things would start to rebuild in a series way. Consider the growth and development of the US between 1776 compared to 1976.

Emil Pagliarulo admitting that he got excited about making Nate a war criminal was a strange one for sure.

GET THE JELLY MOULD OUTTA HERE

Well that’s it Fallout has been simplified into another empty product

Main gripe for me are the fact that the show is canon, and how it turned every culture-contrarian channels into pseudo-shills for Fallout.

Showrunner straight up admitted they got rid of NCR offscreen because it was inconvenient to sandbox of genre cliches they wanted to play in: "I think it would have been a mistake to go from the retro-futuristic America to another America that has been fully civilised and the NCR is doing everything great," Wagner said in response to a question about the controversial decision to nuke Shady Sands. "We love Deadwood. I think if there was a fourth season of Deadwood, there'd be insurance companies, there'd be traffic, and it wouldn't be a Western anymore. We wanted to live in that first season of Deadwood space, of like, 'What's going to happen? Where is everything?"" They could have found some clever way to actually change the world these stories take place in and add actual drama and crisis in the face of the NCR trying to tame the wasteland (this was the whole theme of NV and none of those endings even implied NCR could scale indefinitely).... instead of just hitting the reset button.

I believe the worst aspect of current Bethesda titles is that they aren’t even made for gamers. They are made for devs and people who just get into fallout. It’s iconography which Hollywood is known for doing. Using icons and favorited concepts of media for their own greed. Notice how we didn’t see a single night skin, super mutant, rad scorpion, mongrel, and etc. what we saw that vaguely resembled wild life was phony gulpers and rad roaches. Whether it’s Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana jones, or Mario. They use the iconographies of popular characters or locations for shows and movies. Remember California? Yeah it’s your favorite fallout setting? Bam you get tons of California stuff. Remember power armor? Bam one of the main characters get it instantly. Remember ghouls? Bam tons of ghouls. They jingle shiny keys in your face while stealing your wallet and spitting in your face. They believe that just because they can, means that they should.

Since when had the brotherhood ever travel in pairs? They've always traveled in squads with troops both in and out of power armor Sending one armored knight out with a single untrained unarmored squire is just asking for dead brothers

Talk about a coincidence. I just finished fallout 1 ( and also my first and only fallout game so far ) just a couple of days ago. What can I say? Easily one of the greatest games I've ever played and nowhere near as hard or cryptic as the internet makes it out to be. If anything, the game does a pretty good job at subtly directing you in the right way, provided you actually bother exploring and talking to the NPCs. Even the time limit wasn't that bad. I found the water chip with 100 days left. Why does the ghoul look like that again?

I'm making my own Fallout game. I'm not kidding. It's far along and it will be like Fallout 1, including the writing style and attention to world cohesion. Bethesda and Amazon murdered Fallout. So I'll resurrect its essence as a different IP. And nobody will be able to ruin it again.

Bethesda hasn’t produced a decent game since Morrowind. I loved that game. Everything after that has been kinda “meh.” But they absolutely destroyed fallout

what is bethesdas obsession with nukes? It always seemed strange to me that they feel the need to have a nuclear bomb in all of their fallout properties, you got megaton, you nuke the institute, you have...whatever the fuck is going on with fallout 76, and now you got shady sands being nuked. It's almost like they think their audience is too stupid to understand what a nuclear bomb is so they have to give you a live demonstration every single game.

It's abundantly clear that most people are just mentally becoming the fat wall-e people in space, totally content with their never ending slop. I wasn't really expecting the show to try be canon or even pretend that it would be, nor do I really care one way or the other (only thing that matters are what is in the games), but the low quality and awful writing was enough to turn me off from it. these days all you need for something to be successful is to just make the characters "quirky"

The series is cursed. It's time to let go.

Patrolling the fallout TV show almost makes you wish for fallout the frontier writing team.

Best way I can describe Fallout show is two words, Psychotically childish. When reason and morality went out the window, not only people be carefree to their behaviour, they also see virtue and the good as a after thought, that even inmate prisoners would think is tasteless and senseless. So the type of people who write fallout show, and the people who encourage it, must have a very cynical or careless outlook in life itself.

This video was an absolute treat for me, thank you very much for making a very helpful perspective of the whole Fallout series and bringing to light all the lore inconsistencies introduced by Bethesda. All of this is very similar to how I felt about the Star Wars franchise ever since Disney took over about a decade ago.

Kinda reminds me of the Max Payne movie. I was and am a huge fan of the Max Payne series, but that movie was just…. No. Did they really even play the games before making it? And thinking about it, Max Payne would be a better tv series rather than a movie if you really wanted to get everything right.

Thank god, I feel like I'm going insane watching people hype the show up.

Did anyone expect anything different from evil corporations (Bethesda and Amazon)?

Firstly, I do believe Tactics IS canon. It's in both Interplay's Fallout Bible from before Van Buren and Bethesda's Official Timeline from 6 weeks back. Secondly, despite the gameplay being...horrible, I don't actually think the main plot of Brotherhood of Steel Console causes too many issues itself actually. Interplay was toying with making it canon during those final months as it tied into Tactics. Tactics 2 would have referenced it if it had finished and Van Buren would be referenced in BOS 2 if they had been finished. TL:DR, It's about a small chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel in Carbon(probably in Western Texas or Utah, it's somewhere in the Southwest) fighting against Attitus, the commander of the last major super mutant army remaining. The BOS already have chapters everywhere, even in the Interplay days and Bethesda just ballooned that, that checks out. The mutant plot also checks out. Even after the Master and Lou die in 2163 and the vats are wiped out, most of the actual active mutant armies on patrol or prepping to invade are intact, and gradually flee east. The good ending for the Brotherhood mentions they work with the newly formed NCR in the following years to drive most of the mutants from the region, and the bad ending for the Khans mentions that a few years after the game they get wiped out by a retreating mutant army. So they are an issue for decades in the region, some flee west, some get wiped out. And Fallout tactics(set in 2197 initially and lasting for a few years) literally starts out with a detachment of the BOS being sent to wipe out Mutant forces who are in the Mid-West that escaped the purges out west. Yes, you end up straying wildly from that initial goal, but the Super Mutants in the mid-west are all wiped out by the end of the game. So the last remaining Mutant army a decade later being in the southwest(probably in West Texas) makes perfect sense, it's the only place left to go.

Out of all the things that could've made me enter a state of apathy about Fallout as a setting, was not anything that BGS did. It was when I realized that modern Fallout fans will accept anything. None of the terrible things Bethesda ever did to the series blackpilled me as hard as that realization.

New Vegas definitely didn't get the memo of the setting being "post-post-apocalyptic". There's garbage absolutely everywhere, even inside living areas of permanent settlements.

I see the Fallout TV show as Bethesda trying to retcon the world, undoing everything good from Fallout New Vegas and giving older fans a giant middle finger.

Didn't Tim Cain make Arcanum? surprised you didn't mention that when talking about Tim Cain since you did bring up Arcanum several times.

Why don't we make our own post post apocalyptic series

Emile P's rejection of continuity just pisses all over decades of the efforts of many novelists to maintain continuity in their lengthy novel series. For that matter, it pisses all over the efforts of 250 years of the blood, sweat, and tears of novelists in general, in the way that he sets a horrific example to writers in general.

What a terrible year to be a classical Fallout fan, Caring for a franchise you like will immediately get you mocked and shamed on. Fallout now belongs to seal clapping tourist, shills, and Bethesda fans (who only plays the games just for the mods, not for the story nor world)

That bethesda guy saying the character in the Fallout 1 cutscene if the character of Fallout 4 landed terribly, but it has also an extra disgusting layer on top of it. It's bethesda pissing over the work of better people and claiming as their own.

its doom scrolling when you see mainstream commentary youtubers are also shilling for this shit show.

This is the best video on the show, absolutely fantastic

Remember guys, wacky gore and Marvel humor is the new standard.

Isn't Cold Fusion in Garden of Eden Creation Kits? Am I remembering that right?

Finally! Someone who didn't blindly just like the show and love everything about it. I think the show would have been much better if it wasn't set in the Fallout world because it severely restricted it to Fallout's dumb modern lore. I loathe how Volt Tech are the big bad guys now. It makes Fallout feel small scale and in puts it all in a neat little box.

Episode 2 and im done how d heĺl does lucy start off as a naive and good hearted to a psycopath who can cut head off the scientiste head

'For our purposes, the previous scene never happened.' -Fallout TV writers

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a worthy sequel... Is the nuclear winter line a joke about Bethesda because it would fix their plot holes...

Which mods or enhancements do you use for NV if you don't mind me, DW?

In the Fallout TV show, in episode 4 at 6:30 after the ghout killed the other ghoul. Lucy talked about how she understood hardship and said she lost her mom in the Great Plague of 77, where the people of the vault were quarantined. We know Lucy's mom is tied to the nuking of Shady Sands because she left the vault with Lucy and her brother and went to Shady Sands. Hank went after them, got Lucy and Norm back, and nuked Shady Sands. No way would Hank wait 5 years after the events of FNV to nuke Shady Sands because he didn't want people on the outside to know what's going on in his vault, and just in case, he went with the nuclear option to kill anyone who might have talked with Lucy's mom (Obviously, he failed for story reasons). So the chalkboard is saying Shady Sands was nuked on 2277 (it was just poorly drawn), and we have dialogue to proof it and character motivation on why they Shady Sands would be nuked sooner rather than later. No way would Hank wait more than a year. Side note: We also know roughly how old Lucy may have been when she went outside the vault with her mom. In episode 5 17:39, she talked about her time in the vault and she said she thought until six that the lights in the vaults were the sun. She thought she could feel the rays and stuff, and the flash back used is the some as the flash back used in episode 8 when Lucy remembered being on the surface. So, Lusy was roughly 4 or 5, which if everything happened in 2277, then Lucy would be 24 or 25 in the show. We know she might be older than 20, because at the beginning of episode 1, she went over how she failed to get a partner in vault 33 and she is signing up to be married to someone in the other vault. So, may have been looking for a partner that wasn't her cousin in vault 33 for about 2 or 4. After that, she probably decided to find a partner in the other vault and had to wait because the vault doors to each other don't every three years. This is a rough estimate of how old she maybe and there's probably stuff that I'm missing but this is all the info I know have. Sorry for the long TED talk but I had to get all of this out if my chest. Hope this was informative.

It’s crazy just how big of a dumpster fire Fallout has become. My introduction was 3 from watching my dad play the game and it hold a special place in my heart, but I’m now well aware that at the very least it has NUMEROUS missed opportunities and the story is pretty bad. For a long time I didn’t know just how badly Bethesda messed up the lore and themes until doing some digging. Haven’t played the classic games because they aren’t really my thing. The stories and roleplaying elements are no doubt amazing, but the gameplay isn’t for me. If those remakes of 1/2 in Fallout 4’s engine ever get finished I’ll DEFINITELY play those to experience the magic. Or if we ever get something akin to Daggerfall Unity for classic Fallout that ports the games into a much better engine that’s easily moddable with various quality of life improvements I’ll play that. If those games were made more accessible then more people could experience the magic and come to the realization that Bethesda messed it up. Thats SO FUNNY how Bethesda’s lead writer canonized Tactics and unintentionally made Nate a war criminal to tie him into Fallout 1😂. I wish that in addition to saying that it’s up to the player to decide the canon (he’s become Michael Kirkbride with the Fallout equivalent of C0da) he would’ve thrown in Brotherhood of Steel, purely because it would’ve been the funniest thing in the world! You should make more videos where it starts out with rage and eventually you start hysterically laughing. Great video. So glad I discovered your channel a while ago.

I rewatched a fan film called Nukabreak after having watched the show and I find Nukabreak way more entertaining than the show.

For a franchise all about the negatives of war and nuclear fallout, fallout fans sure are both prone to fighting and act toxic as hell.

Obviously, Bethesda and Amazon were jealous of Pixar so decided to turn vaultec into big and large

Patrolling the Amazon's Fallout makes you wish for Interplay's Fallout.

56:50 forget everything you said, all americans in Fallout 4 are lefthanded according to Bethesda, there is not a single righthanded hunting rifle in the game and it drives me crazy

It's the Witcher TV series situation again. Fans are so starved for something good after the shitshow of Fallout 4 and 78 (much like how Fantasy fans were starved after Game of Thrones' bullshit last seasons) that even something mediocre - i.e. Fallout show/ The Witcher seems to be good enough to merit praise.

The writers use "and then" writing rather then " because" writing

CONSOOM BETHESDASLOP

I dont mind 3 itself, but see that it started the trend.

I feel super conflicted because, despite the many, many problems involving modern media and adaptations, not just Fallout, I did actually enjoy the show. I think Walton Goggins and Ella Purnell especially did a great job as their characters. However, I do agree with the video, and it felt cathartic to hear the lore issues listed like this, as they were bothering me too. As a viewer enjoying a TV show, I had mostly a good time, but as a longtime classic Fallout fan, I'm really disappointed and concerned with what the franchise has become.

This is my probably my favorite Fallout tv show video. Every major flaw and problem, going also beyond tv series summarized in 1,5 hour. Thank you for making it at providing arguments for Bethesda's incompetence.

After Bethesda released another unwanted patch and bricked the Fallout 4 Script Extender, i went back to playing Fallouts 1,2, Tactics, and FNV. I only mod Skyrim and Fallout 4 to make them Actual RPGs and a bit more Grim dark. I want the Amazon show to tank in the end and Bethesda is forced to hand off the license. Microsoft needs to get their sh*t together as well.

I think You, Archcast and Synthetic Man are the only ones who called out this series for being trash that ruins the series lore. What's funny is that his video got swarmed by bots which completely ignored his points in the video so he had to ban them, this show is clearly being astroturfed. Even Critical Drinker liked this series.

The thing that sucks for me, is I used to be the hardest of hard core Bethesda fans. But after being abused by them too much, I can't just overlook what they have become. It truly sucks, it sucks really bad. It's something I actually lament... But the truth is I have no confidence in them for anything anymore. I'm actually dreading TES : IV at this point, I have no confidence in Emils storytelling. I'm absolutely hoping to be proven wrong and to be clowned on for feeling this way, because I like being a Bethesda fan. I want to feel that passion again they used to have. Unfortunately The Great Morrowind Burn-Out was a very dark time, and has yet to be recovered from it seems. However i ABSOLUTELY would not - knowing what i do about Bethesda and how their inner workings have operated - put it past them to be absolutely petty about about the fans of the old not liking their writing. Todd has been pettier about FAR less than that, so has Emil. A lot of what was done almost couldn't have been an accident the way it was portrayed. I'm sorry but it just can't. The show was them saying "this is what Fallout is now, all you old fans are going to get used to it or go get bent, the old is dead." And it wasnt very subtle about it. The way it was done was too maldeasant to be seen as an accident. 1 is a fluke, 2 is a coincidence, 3 is a pattern, but what do you call more than 10? Malice? Hatred?

Saw someone mention it two comments down, but I got to emphasize. Nate the Rake is THE perfect example of how Bethesda haphazards the Classic Lore. And it's a good tension breaker example because, in this case, the fans are faultless. The modern Fallout fans thought it was hilarious and made him a more interesting character. The classic fallout fans thought it was a harmless callback that didn't hurt the lore. The fault for what happened in on Bethesda for backtracking because people had too much fun

I first got into the 'Fallout' universe when a Navy friend asked if I ever heard of it. He loaned me his PS3 & 'Fallout 3' while he went back home for leave. The 3rd entry pulled me in & I easily sunk +100 hours within 2 weeks. I'd never binge-played like this before & I knew PS3 would be on my shopping list. Alas, I only ever did two full playthroughs. The main story ending either diminished your choice to let a radiation-immune companion be the hero, OR nullified your sacrifice. Then, 'New Vegas' came along & my mind was truly blown away!Once I learned about the OGs from Interplay heading this up, it hyped me & I discovered more lore and company's backstory to this digital universe. This iteration still holds up & I can always come back to it years later, especially with its multiple DLCs that expand & branch out the boundaries so much more than expected. Can't say the same with 'Fallout 4.' It became "casual" and not so fun. To this day, I've never even been bothered to finish it just once after nearly 8 years of owning a physical copy. The show never gave me anything positive to feel as the showrunners stated explicitly before release: _"We didn't make this show for the fans."_ And it most definitely shows their lack & care of the lore within this media.

Keeping track of everything I've seen so far, some things to point out in a sequel video would be. .GECK's having Cold Fusion already, thus it's an established tech. .Tactics being re-established as fully canon .Some more details on the firearm changes .Citing the 'Nake the Rake' debacle as proof of how haphazard Bethesda can be .The WHOLE Master/Unity/Cathedral/they should all be long gone issue(lot's of time dedicated to this one and premptively taking out the arguments .More other issues I probably missed .Addressing some of the counter arguments here that are legitimate(not a lot, but a few, like it being a 'fun series' or the fact Shady Sands went from 80 KM north-west of Las Vegas Nevada in Fallout 1 to the middle of California in Fallout 2) .Addressing the BS argument that basically says 'All the lore complaints are from 1, 2, and NV, who cares those aren't Bethesda games stop living in the past lol' and the fact there are essentially two fandoms in a trench coat barely being held together by a shared loved of NV and the show is cutting that rope connecting them.

I got a question i wanna ask before I go further into this video: is it clarified when the post apocalypse era before the Great War started? from what it seems, possibly the 50s I assume, just from the general vibe and theme of the series, unless thats mainly a Bethesda games thing and not part of the Interplay games lore

Of all the "turn your brain off, no think, only consume" mediocrity that constitutes "entertainment" these days, this show is indeed one of the shows of all time.

For my own purposes, Fallouts 1,2,Tactics, and New Vegas are fully canon, and 3 and 4 are only partial canon (only the parts I like)

It's _Kenobi_ all over again.

Well, you haven't changed a bit in a decade.

The biggest cope people tell me when I say the series retcons new vegas by having Shady Sands fall in 2277, is that it's not a fall, but a decline. Putting aside that tzeentch level bullshittery for a second, they then go on to say "The NCR was always in decline and on the brink of collapse, they say that in New Vegas all the time!" ... No. No NPC in the game has ever said such a thing. The closest to that is the NCR scientist guy I forgot the name of that sends you to vault 22, who mentions a famine coming... *_in a decade or so._* The game takes place in 2281, over 4 years into this so-called decline. In fact, it's mentioned several times, like in Cass's companion quest that NCR in California is much stronger than whatever you see in the Mojave.

I know for a fact that they intentionally changed the lore the same thing has happened in multiple series made by Amazon with a licensed I.P. the heavy media presence praising it while not referencing the problems screams paid off to me. And people who didn't play fallout don't even get why it's so bad

TV show is garbage. NCR, completely written out of the show. The brotherhood comes off the worst in terms of how they are portrayed. But, so does everyone, and everything else. People seem to like the ghoul, mostly because of the actor, but, his story arc mangles ghouls as a species, the pre-war uS, vault-tec and everything else his arc touches. Everyone in this series got handed the idiot ball and they all ran with it. Vault dwellers come off as a bunch of inbred, liberal jerkoffs. Maximus is a total dipshit. The series keeps recycling the same stretch of wasteland outside Santa Monica over and over. The enclave is in there, for....reasons, but, I hardly recognize them either. Philly, Filly? is supposed to be a low-rent Megaton or something, but, nothing much happens there besides some obvious fan-service. The diverse lesbian woman who supposedly, discovers cold fusion, uses raiders to attack vault 33, (why did she feel the need to murder the people in V33 again, did they wrong her somehow?) but, later, seems to be the leader? of the NCR..... remnants? So does she work with raiders, or are the NCR raiders now? Dont know. The Ghoul, with his plot armor +10, wipes out Brotherhood all by himself while everyone just gawking at him like idiots while he kills them. Ok. The writers of this show and god howard, took a massive dump on the series and lore. I wont be bothered with season 2, ill just keep playing Tale of Two wastelands and forget the TV show exists. To its limited credit, the vaults in the fallout 4 style, look good and so do the costumes for the most part. The one Mr Handly we met, was well done too. The exterior sets, not very good. Oh, did I mention Maximus is a total dipshit?

Hey DW have you thought about streaming, here or twitch?

I consider it non-canon. I'm baffled by the widespread positive reviews.

I loved the show at first, then I watched your video. Now I’m starting to get Jurassic World/ Star Wars Ep 7 vibes, especially with the “eh f*ck the old fans for complaining, you’re over critiquing things.” There are elements I think could’ve worked in this show like the 3 vaults being connected, but the location of Shady Sands straight up being changed by a fair distance away is crazy. I have no hope for Elder Scrolls 6 nor a Fallout 5. Although Bethesda is to blame, the fans have to take accountability for accepting garbage and Starfield is what fans deserve. But considering how Fallout 76’s screwups and anti consumer practices now appear to be hand waved by the community, I truly think there’s no low Bethesda can go before its fans finally wake up. I’m calling it, Starfield in the minds of its fan base in a few years time will be forgotten and forgiven by the fans.

Isn't the GOG versions of fallout 1 game are censored too?. my GOG copy is different from the one at the GOG store

Hey DWT, love your videos man. I was wondering if you would consider doing a review on Conflict Desert Storm for PC, GameCube, PS2 and XBOX. Just a heads up though, the PC version is very buggy so I’d play the console versions.