The Fanta Bomb & Improvised Munitions in Ukraine

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The Armourer's Bench

The Armourer's Bench

10 ай бұрын

Improvised munitions including grenades have appeared in Ukraine over the past 12 months. They are often based on drinks cans or bottles and are filled with readily available explosive materials and in some cases fragmentation material for an increased anti-personnel effect. In this video, we look at various types of improvised munition which have been observed in the field.
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@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Check out the accompanying article for this one here: armourersbench.com/2023/07/23/the-fanta-bomb-improvised-munitions-in-ukraine/
@0xBasedChang
@0xBasedChang 10 ай бұрын
a lot of the stuff sent by the west has been stolen and sold on the black market
@long-hair-dont-care88.
@long-hair-dont-care88. 10 ай бұрын
An the government corruption an that.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 10 ай бұрын
RedBull gives you wings
@francoisleveille409
@francoisleveille409 10 ай бұрын
For the most refreshing day, try our home-made beverages. You'll have a blast!
@user-in8bz3kd7d
@user-in8bz3kd7d 6 ай бұрын
Although I don’t understand the principle, I really like it
@Broadsword999
@Broadsword999 10 ай бұрын
From what I read about the US in Vietnam, it was a regular practice by US forces to crush drinks cans so the VC couldn't use them to make improvised grenades.
@chill_will9816
@chill_will9816 10 ай бұрын
In Iraq, we were warned not to throw MRE bags out of vehicles while on the road because they could be used to hide IED's.
@capcamouflagepatterni6162
@capcamouflagepatterni6162 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, however the VC ones usually had far more effort put into them. Not that the end result wouldn't probably be the same, but the VC had far less access to factory-made grenade fuzes or ball bearings. Fragmentation was typically made from thin steel rods cut into short segments with a hand shear and while they could sometimes salvage fuzes from expended US smoke grenades and refill them there weren't nearly enough for the quantity they were making so fuzes were usually made from scratch with a friction ignitor. For that reason as well as the sheer quantity they were making they had to be made in dedicated workshops rather than literally in the trenches such as at 1:40 in this video.
@m2hmghb
@m2hmghb 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was because the cans were the perfect size to put the grenade in and hold the spoon down. Just needed to pull it out and it would start the cook.
@firepower01
@firepower01 10 ай бұрын
​@@capcamouflagepatterni6162thanks for sharing that interesting history
@KataIIama
@KataIIama 10 ай бұрын
I believe it’s a coal and fertilizer mix for the explosive
@cujimmy1366
@cujimmy1366 10 ай бұрын
One Red bull and four Jager bombs please.
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo 10 ай бұрын
Sponsored by Red Bull
@thatguy-yn8ji
@thatguy-yn8ji 10 ай бұрын
Redbull gives you wings
@sto2779
@sto2779 7 ай бұрын
I'll never look at empty scrap water bottles same again ever.
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 10 ай бұрын
We used to make this kinda thing in highschool. Bottles filled with pebbles and flash powder from firecrackers. Ducttaped up for extra pressure build up. War makes for creative minds
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 10 ай бұрын
Necessity is the mother of all invention
@kongoubongo1114
@kongoubongo1114 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a rough school or a final solution to a bully bullying you.
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 10 ай бұрын
​​@@kongoubongo1114just bored kids with access to polish and italian fireworks 😂
@MrKochshawn
@MrKochshawn 10 ай бұрын
Be careful with flash powder. That is some volatile and dangerous stuff.
@JR-mh8vn
@JR-mh8vn 10 ай бұрын
​@@MrKochshawn depends the flash powder you can get out of firework shells isnt volatile
@OrdnanceLab
@OrdnanceLab 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout. We'll have to try recreating a few more of those improvised grenades.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, enjoyed the vid! You guys could try and make some of the can grenades. That would be interesting.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 10 ай бұрын
^^
@IdiotWithEducation
@IdiotWithEducation 10 ай бұрын
Yes please :)
@nightshade4873
@nightshade4873 10 ай бұрын
"Redbulls, gives them wings."
@kathleenmann7311
@kathleenmann7311 4 күн бұрын
Nightshade - 👍. 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦✌️
@CAMSLAYER13
@CAMSLAYER13 10 ай бұрын
Even if you have regular grenades I think making these in this situation has value. You can have custom payloads and it saves grenades for you to use and its a good use of excess explosives you couldn't or wouldn't otherwise use.
@1lovesoni
@1lovesoni 10 ай бұрын
Plus, standard Russian pattern grenades (RGD-5) are high explosive only with minimal fragmentation. While these seem more fragmentation based w/ ball bearings.
@theriddler6994
@theriddler6994 10 ай бұрын
@@1lovesoni tbh i saw way more F1 than rgds in vids from Ukraine
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 10 ай бұрын
They have enough anti-tank mine to blow up half the planet. Might as well put all that explosives to use.
@sheep8618
@sheep8618 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@1lovesoniRgd-5 is a fragmentation grenade, it had a fragmentation liner inside the shell.
@sheep8618
@sheep8618 10 ай бұрын
@@theriddler6994Me too, I suspect that rgd-5 are being issued to soldiers and f-1 grenades are used in drones (that’s why you see more of them from footage). I think Ukraine has a large stockpile of f-1 grenades but because they are obsolete comparing to rgd-5 or NATO supplied M67, where F-1 is heavy and have worst blast and fragmentation performance, they are used for drones instead, which doesn’t matter as much because their drone drops are accurate.
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 10 ай бұрын
2:42 Gives new meaning to "Red Bull gives you wings"
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 2 ай бұрын
Especially when that bottle overheats under you, johny boy.)
@xXrandomryzeXx
@xXrandomryzeXx 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget the morale boost these improvised explosives provide. It's the "Fucking around with fireworks" type of acts with the boys that boost morale a lot.
@charles2521
@charles2521 10 ай бұрын
Trillions of dollars of sponsorship to have to fight with pet bottles. That really boosts someone's morale.
@Quicks1lvr
@Quicks1lvr 10 ай бұрын
@@charles2521 The only Ukrainian getting sponsored is Zelensky. All the others are simply fodder for us Americans to use against Russia
@SweatyFeetGirl
@SweatyFeetGirl 10 ай бұрын
true lmao@@charles2521
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 10 ай бұрын
Your math is as bad as your logic. If you've never been to war or even been in a life or death struggle you shouldn't be speaking when the adults are speaking. Stupid Russian bot
@stuart6478
@stuart6478 4 ай бұрын
How is being straight edge working out for you?
@314299
@314299 10 ай бұрын
Now THAT is a fizzy drink!
@pauliewalnuts240
@pauliewalnuts240 10 ай бұрын
The surprising part about this to me is the availability of those fuses. Explosives are common in the Millitary and obtainable for a civilian. But fuses would seem like the hardest part to aquire.
@GormHornbori
@GormHornbori 10 ай бұрын
Either pilfered from a normal hand grenade, or spare parts. The drones have a maximum carrying capacity, and you want to maximize their utility. These improvised munitions is a bi product of using commercial drones for grenade drops. There are no NATO or Sovyet standard for grenades dropped from small drones, and everything dropped from these drones are improvised. In future wars I expect actual military drones in this size and role, and there will be mass produced munitions for it.
@TheReckoningBeginsToday
@TheReckoningBeginsToday 10 ай бұрын
I suspect those fuses are from Police stun grenades, etc.
@randybugger3006
@randybugger3006 10 ай бұрын
I'ma look up DIY grenade fuses now.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 9 ай бұрын
Making a bomb is simple,it's more difficult to make a fuze.
@AD-gi9zg
@AD-gi9zg 8 ай бұрын
I think they probably have a stock of them, for such purposes. Probably bought in large amounts.
@BigMakBattleBlog
@BigMakBattleBlog 5 ай бұрын
Im a drone pilot in Ukraine. The sort of container is irelavant but at least in my unit our sapper uses plastic bottles for pyrotechnics and beer or pop cans for HE or frag we also now use custom 3D printed casings Grenade fuses are common as are impact detonated nose cones from Mortar and VOG grenades . Remote det, timed det and proxy or tip switch are also used . The explosives used are normally harvested from UXOs so artillery, mortar and rocket rounds, also from TM62 mines so ammonium nitrate and TNT basically but i have seen some real comp and even C4. As far as I know they dont get used as grenades as they tend to be too powerful. But im sure its happened. Generally. Bomb weight is 450 g for a DJI mavic 1.5/3kg for an normal 7" FPV but you can scale up FPVs and bomb size accordingly. There are also things like water/sea mines being produced and even Hamas style home made rockets and launcher..... I like my job . I have a channel if anyone is interested
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the extra insights!
@ljulja92
@ljulja92 4 ай бұрын
Keep up good work BigMak and stay safe, love your videos.
@jgedutis
@jgedutis 3 ай бұрын
I hope you are staying safe. Keep up the good work. America stands with Ukraine.
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 2 ай бұрын
So, when is it your turn to feed the dogs, tarasik?)
@jackoliver7506
@jackoliver7506 Ай бұрын
What's real comp?
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast 10 ай бұрын
The IRA has a long history of improvised grenades, coffee can bombs were pretty devastating and multi purpose. They could be thrown like a regular hand grenade or used with a trip wire. The biggest difference was the arming method, instead of a traditional grenade fuse they used a 9v battery with a switch which was used to ignite a fuse leading to a conventional blasting cap. The glass fragmentation was horrific and could tear you to pieces, plus you can't use a metal detector to find the pieces so you have to either use an xray and a skilled surgeon or have a medic dig around to find each piece. Given the glass was sharp you can't just leave it in either, it'll just keep cutting you internally. The one seen in the video looks like ammonal to me or a wax like explosive liquified, mixed with bearings and poured into the bottles. As to why, I would speculate maybe they've captured large amounts of fuses without the shells and are repurposing them, it could also be they simply want a much larger blast when dropping them from drones. Each drone is expensive so you want to inflict as much damage as possible if the drone gets shot down. Each of those bottles looks to be double or triple the amount of explosives in a traditional grenade. Ammonal would be ideal, all you need is fertilizer and aluminium powder. So one person with a belt grinder could make dozens of these grenades daily. If I had to give them some advice it would be to stop mixing the bearings in with the explosive, instead wrap tape around the bottle to hold a layer of bearings on the outside to maximise fragmentation. If they really want to take it up a notch, use long 250ml cans filled with explosive inside a larger can with bearings in the larger can. So it has two layers of fragmentation from the cans combined with the bearings. They could also wrap chicken wire around the cans sort of similar to the AIM-9X early warheads to create expanding rings of metal that sever limbs.
@TonyM540
@TonyM540 10 ай бұрын
Hope I never upset you.
@Celciusify
@Celciusify 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that Drones are expensive, looking at what something equivalent would cost from an arms manufacturer, they're dirt cheap. And they're hard to destroy as well. Rather they can be hard to source. Few drones are sold to Ukraine, the vast majority are bought outside the country and transported in.
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast 10 ай бұрын
@@Celciusify Well considering they cost around 500-1000 and most of them seem to be purchased or donated by the soldiers/foreigners I'd say they are pretty expensive to lose. If it was the Government purchasing them it would be a different story but as it stands someone losing their drone means they now need to find and purchase a new one themselves or get one that was donated.
@specialingu
@specialingu 10 ай бұрын
​@@WarlordEnthusiastthere a consumable now, I think :/
@Tunzbig
@Tunzbig 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the education, some handy tips. :)
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 10 ай бұрын
One key point here, the Ukrainians doing this is not reserved only for this battle. The US/UK/AUS/CA and nearly all other militaries around the world have Combat Engineers who specialize in improvised explosives, tactics, and operations, to adapt to the changing needs of the battlefield. I only mention the (4) Alliance nations above because they are most well known for it, especially British and American. The US has a vast array of tools available to the Combat Engineer to get the job done. Various types of explosives in various prepackaged quantities and shapes, various initiation devices as well. The only difference here is that the Ukrainians are filming all of this in real time and the world is getting to see it. They are also using it at a rate far greater than we have seen before which shows how dynamic and unpredictable the shape of the battlefield is. I find this absolutely fascinating. To note. The improvised drink bottle bombs they are making are akin to the WWII "Potato Masher" stick grenade that was used by Germany. Normal blast/frag grenades only have tens to a hundred grams of HE contained within. When you need something far bigger, and you need it to be dead accurate, and you don't have artillery, these fit the bill perfectly. Essentially a stop-gap.
@JelMain
@JelMain 10 ай бұрын
That's how the flashbang came to be.
@Rudywtf
@Rudywtf 10 ай бұрын
ok, but like... wouldnt a bullet kill that single person better than a plastic bottle filled with explosives that are going to be detonated without any actual case? i mean... look at a pressure cooker.. right. thats not a plastic bottle or a 1mm thick aluminum can that is already compromised.
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 10 ай бұрын
Look up "US Army Munitions Handbook" It's common practice to train and supply troops with the means to manufacture improvised munitions of every type imaginable. I imagine special forces or some other infantry units from other countries have a similar program
@alti1095
@alti1095 8 ай бұрын
Террористы используют такие методы, нормальные сапёры не будут мастерить что-то на коленке. ИМХО
@JelMain
@JelMain 8 ай бұрын
@@alti1095 Your sappers aren't doing so well, are they? A Chinese labour battalion will reeducate you.
@Admin-5
@Admin-5 10 ай бұрын
A lot are also likely made by guys on the front who know they go through a lot of grenades so they make their own to increase their grenade supply
@brookwhiteman9810
@brookwhiteman9810 10 ай бұрын
As good as grenades are these Fanta bombs have much longe and more concentrated fragmentation range. The result of that one in the video strapped to a drones shows how the drone actually hits about 4 metres from the russian yet you see puffs of dust come from his whole body and he looks insta Kia.
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 7 ай бұрын
Grenade fuzes are sent with the grenade bodies themselves...if you have a fuze you have the rest of the grenade. The reason for these devices is specifically for clearing Russian bunkers. The additional explosive power (about 5 times as much as a normal grenade) will collapse a Russian bunker when thrown in when being cleared...the normal grenades aren't as effective.
@EXO9X8
@EXO9X8 10 ай бұрын
I’m gonna end up on a watchlist for liking this vid but it’s worth it.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Can't imagine what I'm on for making it haha. Thanks for watching!
@Quicks1lvr
@Quicks1lvr 10 ай бұрын
and yet global news was so eager to tell us mixing Styrofoam in gasoline is fine
@Kawaiijihad
@Kawaiijihad 7 күн бұрын
Never fear your right to exist. Ever.
@AR-yd2nd
@AR-yd2nd 5 күн бұрын
​@@Quicks1lvr honestly based
@StacheMan26
@StacheMan26 10 ай бұрын
Additionally, I'd imagine an improvised grenade that still (mostly) looks like the drink can/bottle it was made from would be quite useful when setting booby traps as it could quite easily be mistaken for normal detritus.
@PutlerXLO
@PutlerXLO 10 ай бұрын
It's easier to leave a bottle of vodka with rat poison on the road as a weapon of mass destruction :)
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark 10 ай бұрын
3:00 i can think of another reason why these muntiions are being made. It's an example of trench art. Albeit the explosive kind if you notice a lot of them have messages. World war 2 veterans as well as modern veterans would say war is very boring punctuated with seconds of a mixture of pure excitement and terror.
@nicholasholloway8743
@nicholasholloway8743 10 ай бұрын
I'd say it's more from the lack of proper munitions. Where oh where did all those billions go lol
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark 10 ай бұрын
@@nicholasholloway8743 money doesnt turn into munitions overnight ... there's a paper trail and congressional oversight.
@specialingu
@specialingu 10 ай бұрын
​@@nicholasholloway8743we forgot the sheer scale of the war. 800+km front line, hundreds of thousands of troops.
@bob2233445
@bob2233445 10 ай бұрын
@@mr6johnclark haaaaaa. it's not like they're making new stuff. they're selling off expired shit from the 80's. oh yeah how's that congressional oversight going? on the front line doing inventory are they? or are the weapons now on the black market hm?
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 10 ай бұрын
They didn't send them a box with billions of dollars of cash in it you dumb right wing fool. Even if they had, what do you think Ukraine could do with a box of billions in cash....walk into Walmart in Kiev and buy C4, mortars, hand grenades,manpads, drones etc If you don't know how the US is supporting Ukraine and what these donations are composed of you don't need to be speaking when the adults are speaking
@anonymous2513456
@anonymous2513456 10 ай бұрын
i think people over rate frag grenades, they are useful bit they don't do the kind of damage that most people think. Some of those craft produced grenades look a good deal more destructive than a factory made frag.
@cm275
@cm275 10 ай бұрын
Frag grenades are also somewhat limited by the fact they’re meant to be thrown. If you make the lethal radius too big then they kill the user as well.
@quakethedoombringer
@quakethedoombringer 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@cm275which means that these grenades are fairly likely to be airdropped via drone. You don't physically have to throw these things so you can cram as much explosive and fragmentation parts as you can + the empty bottles are readily available. Plus it saves actual grenades and mortar rounds for frontline ground troops
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 10 ай бұрын
English please.
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 10 ай бұрын
@@cm275 Well for defensive hand grenades that create a lot of fragments the assumption is basically that you’re behind cover like a wall or in a trench when they explode. Offensive hand grenades produce less fragments as you don’t want to get killed by your own hand grenade. The German DM51 hand grenade (100.000 got delivered to Ukraine by Germany at the start of the war) allows you to use it either as a defensive hand grenade with the attached fragmentation mantlet that forms some 6.500 fragments or as an offensive hand grenade by removing the fragmentation mantlet.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 10 ай бұрын
​@@cm275well you get defensive and attacking grenades now, the defensive ones are meant to be thrown from behind cover and have a much bigger kill range, attacking ones often dont even conrain any shrapnel and are used for room clearing and things like that
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 10 ай бұрын
They'd be a lot more effective if they epoxied the fragmentation to the inside of the containers. The US found that loose ball bearings don't accelerate well during the development of the claymore mine.
@DonVetto-vx9dd
@DonVetto-vx9dd 10 ай бұрын
Well, I don't think they can find epoxy in those situations though.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 10 ай бұрын
@@DonVetto-vx9dd any sort of glue will work
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 10 ай бұрын
@@PatchesFlannigan knowledge should be free and available, you don't get to decide what is and isn't appropriate. Bad people will always do bad things, one way or another. High explosives aren't exactly readily available for the average person and anyone who is willing to go to the trouble of making them is going to.
@Tunzbig
@Tunzbig 10 ай бұрын
@@PatchesFlannigan but they can freely advocate and encourage the youth to mutilate themselves and take drugs that effect them for the rest of their lives. The anarchist Cookbook is outdated and not that informative. If said 17 year old wanted knowledge they would find it.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 10 ай бұрын
had been thinking about soda bottle grenades for a while, especially those small 33cl ones. interesting seeing that idea in practice.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 9 ай бұрын
It also adds some shock value against an enemy which is demoralizing when your best mates are being taken out by a soda bottle!
@pickleman40
@pickleman40 10 ай бұрын
I suspect stronger hand grenades/ throwable explosive charges are something many military are looking into due to this conflict. I've seen many cases of handgrenades being surprisingly ineffective even at very close range.
@craigfjyp1
@craigfjyp1 5 ай бұрын
there's a mythbusters episode about grenades, sure it said if you're laying down they only have an effective range up to 1 meter, if standing up though it's a good distance, around 15 meters if i remember correctly.
@Awholeopinion
@Awholeopinion 10 ай бұрын
They could also be utilizing left over fuse devices from other grenades that that were used to augment things like rpg’s
@rb368370
@rb368370 2 ай бұрын
During the Vietnam War, personnel in my squadron put used Coke cans and other debris in the bomb fins. An after damage report credited a Coke can with a KIA.
@charliebrown7904
@charliebrown7904 9 ай бұрын
Another good type of object to use for such ideas - is the ballcock from cisterns: the plastic, round ballcock - cheap to purchase and conveniently shaped, ready to fill with whatever you want: and the mounting screw hole for the detonator after it is prepped.
@andrewsteele7663
@andrewsteele7663 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, I always find your video's interesting. In this case it's just like the chaps in the trenches in WW1 & Gallipoli, filling bully beef cans with powder and shrapnel. What was old is new again. Cheers
@Cacowninja
@Cacowninja 7 ай бұрын
Wanta Fanta? Wanta Fanta! Fanta! An explosion of flavor!
@doriancreber7139
@doriancreber7139 10 ай бұрын
there was a recent video of a drone dropping what appeared to be a round AT mine into a mortar trench - if had quite a long delay but the bang was quite large!
@matthaft2048
@matthaft2048 10 ай бұрын
As to why they aren’t using factory made grenades, i think a lot of it is these guys are also using what they are able to capture from enemy positions. Use the manufactured ones during the assault, scrounge up the captured munitions, resupply your self and keep pushing through the objective. As opposed to “We’ve taken point A. Now we gotta wait a few days or more to start on point B”
@shadowlab9543
@shadowlab9543 10 ай бұрын
ya probably just repurposing danger putty from various munitions, i think that's the purpose of the cluster munitions as well, crack one of those baby's open and you got a bunch of drone capable munitions.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 10 ай бұрын
These are all made during down time to extend the supply of the real grenades and such. Making homemade things like this is practice in every Combat Engineer Bible.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 10 ай бұрын
Probably because Ukraine is running low on supplies.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 10 ай бұрын
@Nobody-Nowhere as a former soldier who's job was explosives & land mines. We would build things out of pure boredom. There's literally a Bible for the Combat Engineers that explains how to make such items. One would use the to stretch your real supply longer.
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 10 ай бұрын
@Nobody-Nowhere plus it leaves the real grenades to mission critical people like infantryman. These such devices would not be used by a ground troop storming a Dugout. One counts on reliability of equipment in that situation.
@suezsiren117
@suezsiren117 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@VanBourner
@VanBourner 8 күн бұрын
also because regular grenades may be more useful on the frontlines
@mr6johnclark
@mr6johnclark 10 ай бұрын
2:40 These Redbull... *Will definitely give Ivan wings!*
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 10 ай бұрын
Only good purpose of a fashionable dumb drink.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 10 ай бұрын
Da comrade! It will set you free!
@harrisonbrodeen7604
@harrisonbrodeen7604 10 ай бұрын
Necessity is the mother of all inventions
@oldphart-zc3jz
@oldphart-zc3jz 5 ай бұрын
The more technical items of interest are the release mechanisms and .stl files for the printed components. Striker-fired improvised fuses similar to how BDU-33 practice bomb spotting charges would be easy to make but they have heaps of Soviet grenades and parts so using fuses makes sense.
@Gamna778
@Gamna778 10 ай бұрын
Another great video by the Armorers Bench.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@joshmeads
@joshmeads 10 ай бұрын
1 to 2 kg of explosive in one of these energy drink grenades is alot of explosive. Just comparing it to WW2 American grenades, they had roughly 65g of explosive filler. Just one kg of explosive is 1000g. 😳
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 9 ай бұрын
Frag grenades are using the casing as a pressure vessel to maximize the pressure spike of the explosion so when the detonation occurs the fragmentation is expelled at high velocities, the actual concussive damage radius is quite low. With these lightweight flimsy cans instead of preformed steel casings, you need to rely on the concussion of the explosive itself to create a lethal shockwave which requires a much larger charge.
@James-wd9ib
@James-wd9ib 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I think they're miscalculating. 1,000 ml of water weighs exactly 1kg. Most soda cans and softdrink bottles hold only around 350 to 800ml. Even if plastic explosive weighs more than water, you still have to fill the space up with ball bearings and shrapnel. So I think it's impossible to fill a bottle with 2kg of explosive. Also, I boil a half kilo of rice every day and I can easily estimate any weight under 3kg. Now if you said that the entire bomb (explosive plus ball bearings) weighs two kilograms, then I might believe it.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 9 ай бұрын
Grenade casing is plastic.The fragments are around the outside.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 9 ай бұрын
@@eugeneoreilly9356 not sure if you're replying to my comment, but M67 grenades are absolutely steel cased. The same is the case with the older M26 and Mk2.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 9 ай бұрын
@@colbunkmust never used a steel cased grenade.Only used plastic cased ones (Swedish made),45 grams propellant,950 fragments.Very small pellets with serrated ring at top and bottom.Cant remember if they had a designation as it's a long while ago.
@racialconsciousness6996
@racialconsciousness6996 10 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting to see the Taiwanese Revolver 860 drones in action in Ukraine. Those things should be insanely devastating.
@brookwhiteman9810
@brookwhiteman9810 10 ай бұрын
Ukraine has some drones like that. There is a group called perun who use a drone that can drop 4 anti tank grenades and the SBU and groups like magyars birds use the r18 drone to drop 3 warheads that usually can destroy a tank In 2 hits. Magyars birds which is the most effective strike unit is now upscaling by 5x the size so that terrifying in terms of the level of destruction that might be reached.
@yoyogi52
@yoyogi52 10 ай бұрын
Easy to shoot down, they're loud.
@caav56
@caav56 10 ай бұрын
@@yoyogi52 Which is why they are typically used at night.
@farsiga2899
@farsiga2899 10 ай бұрын
You may be waiting for ever unfortunately. Haven't seen nor heard about those Taiwan drones since last year.
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 9 ай бұрын
It’s also something to preoccupy yourself with while combating boredom
@dave1secondago
@dave1secondago 7 ай бұрын
never new about these , great vid bro
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@randompanda876
@randompanda876 10 ай бұрын
would these plastic and aluminum can casings lead to a diminished effect in terms of explosive power? i was under the impression you want a tougher casing to allow a higher pressure to develop within the bomb before it cracks open and fragments
@marcgartner1543
@marcgartner1543 10 ай бұрын
High explosive like C4 doesn't require a container to build pressure. It is devastating as is. Low explosive like gun powder needs containment to build pressure (a running start).
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 10 ай бұрын
Ive seen ukrainian civilians making these but they are like sophisticated molotov cocktails/unsophisticated incendiary grenades. They fill them with broken down styrofoam and an accelerant, acetone preffered but the trsditional petrol also used. Its basically napalm and the sudden pressure, even in plastic bottles blows it everywhere, including any added shrapnel and the styrfoam makes it stick to anything nearby. I also saw them using fuses for these sort of things triggered by blank shotgun shells, which fired when triggered by a trip wire attached to a kind of metal mechanical camp perimeter security system you can buy very cheaply online.
@PearlTheFrenchie
@PearlTheFrenchie 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Good information and learned some valuable lessons here. Keep up the good work and good luck with the channel
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Check out the Ukraine playlist for more.
@royhooey3640
@royhooey3640 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Keep up the good work.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 7 ай бұрын
The one I haven’t seen yet is the copper cone in a pvc tube improvised anti-tank IED. Drone carrys it, lands on top of a tank’s engine compartment, detonates, and a jet of molten copper burns down through everything.
@brianfitch5469
@brianfitch5469 5 ай бұрын
Pvc couldnt probably take the pressure to keep the cone structure. At the shop i worked out just a 175psi air compressor use to blow it out.
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 10 ай бұрын
As they say "when life gives you lemon you make lemonade". You got to go with what you have.
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 2 ай бұрын
In ukr vfu you go feed the dogs...)
@bleachedmud8723
@bleachedmud8723 10 ай бұрын
Someone get these guys some tall boys
@IamNightRot
@IamNightRot 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this now I go to store and buy non-stop nrg drink!
@scottjurrjens8954
@scottjurrjens8954 10 ай бұрын
Cant believe so many people cannot understand that transporting any sort of military equipment (or any equipment for that matter) is harder and can sometimes take longer in an active warzone rather than a peacetime country.
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 10 ай бұрын
And with some of those resources being illicitly diverted. Some of the reports have been interesting to read through
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
@@josedorsaith5261such as? I keep seeing Vatniks claim this but I’ve yet to see any proof posted.
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 10 ай бұрын
Some of these are definitely way too heavy to be thrown by hand at a significant distance, which might also be the problem for the guy throwing them, especially if he needs to use them in the open field and he will be in the blast radius himself. But, that's situational. Still, the weight... That is why they are most likely resorting to drink cans; they are smaller and easier to handle.
@einarhornraiser9019
@einarhornraiser9019 6 ай бұрын
Oh, wow! At around 2:54 that image of the five improvised grenades - the one on the far right actually has an old WWII-era Koveshnikov-type fuse! The UZRG-M replaced those during the war, so that thing's been hanging around since the 40s! It might not even fire after all this time.
@rafwoz1125
@rafwoz1125 10 ай бұрын
Mate, your pronounciation of Kropla Beskidu was spot on. Impressive :)
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Great to know. I've butchered some pronunciations in the past so trying my best with them. Thanks for watching.
@target844
@target844 10 ай бұрын
Another reason to make improvised munitions is that there is if there is no mass-produced ammunition suitable for the task. If you what a 3 kg warhead like the one in the soft drink bottle you can deliver from a drone hand grades are too light. There are no hand grands that are that heavy A 82mm mortar bomb has around the right mass but the fuze in them is built so they are from the acceleration when fires so you still need to modify them. If you use one you remove one you can fire from a mortar. You do that with a hand grande and some plastic explosive There are RPG munition with similar mass but why use a fragmentation variant if the om mad stuff works as well when dropped from a drone. HEAT warheads are a lot harder to make and we have seen lots of RPG-7 HEAT motion dropped from drones and used on PFV drones. Ukraine has requested Mk 20 Rockeye II cluster bomb from the US, not to drop from aircraft that would like to to dangerous but to disassemble them and use the anti-tank bomblets from drones
@tridsonline
@tridsonline 9 ай бұрын
👍 Great idea - also raises the possibility of detonating a package in the air to reach into trenches. If they can secure reliably-timed fuses/detonators, then it's easy to calculate the height to drop them from, in order to go off say 3m from the ground.
@SuckahK205
@SuckahK205 19 күн бұрын
Gave "redbull gives you wings" a new meaning
@KyleFromSouthParkCA
@KyleFromSouthParkCA 10 ай бұрын
Seems as though theyre looking for a larger hand grenade, maybe the normal hand grenades arent doing enough damage
@kintro6087
@kintro6087 7 ай бұрын
You can put more sincerity into it when it's handmade. And the bond deepens.
@filippaustralovenator2.033
@filippaustralovenator2.033 2 ай бұрын
The bond beteween you and the overheated improv scrap detonating in your hand?)))
@SBOTac
@SBOTac 10 ай бұрын
How does non-stop taste compared to Red Bull? I've seen them in the STALKER games before. Overall, greak Ukrainian engineering philosophy, "You make do with what you have."
@Alex-Storm
@Alex-Storm 10 ай бұрын
uhhh it is kinda difficult to describe the taste of an energy drink. it does not taste exactly like a red bull per se, but it has same sort of very-chemical taste and overall feel
@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594
@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594 2 ай бұрын
In this case "red bull" does give you wings 😂😂
@barrymayson2492
@barrymayson2492 10 ай бұрын
If a thing goes bang with enough force and shrapnel people don't work any more. I suspect the larger explosive loads are for drones . Trying to throw a couple of kilos far enough to not get in the way would take a lot of effort.
@shrimuyopa8117
@shrimuyopa8117 7 ай бұрын
No, it's because money meant for military purposes is going elsewhere.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 7 ай бұрын
Nahh it's not. They have a ton of standard grenades. They want enhanced blast. There's not many grenades that fit their need so they've tried making their own. Very common with the drone teams too.
@thelilpeanutdotgov
@thelilpeanutdotgov 6 ай бұрын
🤡
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 10 ай бұрын
Man, that version of Red Bull definitely will give you wings, one way or another🤣
@charliebrown2265
@charliebrown2265 5 ай бұрын
How are they not getting "the munitions they need" but still getting the grenade fuses that they do?
@brosefmalkovitch3121
@brosefmalkovitch3121 10 ай бұрын
When you consider that most hand grenades carry at most a few hundred grams of explosive it makes a ton of sense they're trying to manufacture ordnance with a bit more bang.
@SergeiFragov
@SergeiFragov 10 ай бұрын
Another reason soldiers have always worked on improvised munitions is boredom. Being in a war is 99% sitting around doing nothing and 1% fighting. Thinking of novel ways to kill your enemy is a good pastime.
@jimmystrickland1034
@jimmystrickland1034 12 күн бұрын
Dodging artillery fire everyday isn’t 99% doing nothing. You watch too many movies. You’re always on pins and needles in war, not twiddling your thumbs with boredom.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 10 ай бұрын
The trolls saying this is what billions in aid look like in a war of national survival did not notice the level of Mcgyvering the Soviet Union did during its own war for national survival...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
They’re just reading what their scripts say.
@bob2233445
@bob2233445 10 ай бұрын
well if it was a war of national survival and they weren't getting billions in aid no one would be surprised. why should they have to mcgyver anything with all that aid? was the us military mygyvering fanta bombs in iraq? no. if they had, everyone would be saying "where did the billions go?"
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
@@bob2233445 because wars are expensive and you basically never have belong materials. Russia is supposed to be a military super power yet they scrounging together everything they can, even equipment from WW2. Military equipment is expensive if you haven’t noticed.
@operator9858
@operator9858 10 ай бұрын
War has changed a bit since the 1940's bro...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
@@operator9858 not that much. The US Army has manuals on how to improvise weapons.
@ramblin8674
@ramblin8674 10 ай бұрын
How are they getting fuses without the bodies. Do eastern block countries ship them separate?
@Prion600
@Prion600 10 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly from another video the fuses are usually shipped separately to grenade bodies. Could be the case that the grenade bodies went to another improvised weapon or these fuses are in excess. Either way, i can't confirm if this is the case but would make the most sense as to why they have these fuses seemingly everywhere.
@tbdwoods
@tbdwoods 5 ай бұрын
Where are the ball bearings coming from? I can imagine being able to scrounge things up from enemy positions or having stockpiles of fuses etc. but it seems odd to have transported pounds and pounds of ball bearings to the front lines without some alternate purpose. at that point would it be equally cost effective and easy to send proper munitions?
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 10 ай бұрын
Welp Fanta was created by German branch of Coca Cola so that's against Russia again😂
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 10 ай бұрын
Ja!
@orionide4032
@orionide4032 10 ай бұрын
It was for the coca cola company to get around the embargo. Like Unilever still sells their products to Russia. So does buying dove soap make me a Putin supporter?
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 10 ай бұрын
@@orionide4032 that's not even the point.
@durbledurb3992
@durbledurb3992 10 ай бұрын
As long at the orcs go home I'd even agree to Pepsi bottles being used.
@SweatyFeetGirl
@SweatyFeetGirl 10 ай бұрын
least racist comment
@Tippet76
@Tippet76 10 ай бұрын
How is the pin pulled? Pre take off and then something keeps the spoon in place until an actuator drops it or is there a system so that the pin is pulled in the air?
@CoffeeFiend1
@CoffeeFiend1 7 ай бұрын
They're likely being used (mostly) for boobytraps and drones. IED's of course have a sophistication spectrum but generally they're more awkward and slower to deploy than regular grenades when being used as such. That said there's likely occasions where they can be deployed in that fashion where speed isn't of the essence. Ukrainians often try to capture enemy forces but on occasions where they won't leave the closet/room/subterranean section in a trench, they'll just throw in an explosive and in these cases it may as well be a crude cheap one.
@elgoog7830
@elgoog7830 10 ай бұрын
I can't imagine they haven't been doing this type of stuff, since black powder has been used on the battlefield. Pretty sure it's a no-brainer for 99% of men, "hey this stuff goes boom, let's put it into this!"
@paullllehtx
@paullllehtx 19 күн бұрын
So thats what 100+ Billion USD (and counting) gets you. With all the nato allies plus money pouring in they can't even get resupplied with grenades. Something doesn't add up. For a country that gets so much help through equipment and financially, it's nowhere to be seen. Almost like alot of that money is being laundered.
@dylancole4483
@dylancole4483 18 күн бұрын
It is 100% being laundered.
@chrisfalbo1240
@chrisfalbo1240 9 ай бұрын
soldier was using a vr head set nice
@Dapper422
@Dapper422 10 ай бұрын
Make homemade to extend your supply of the real thing until the end. To add. Making charges was a way to pass time during Afghanistan. Especially teaching infantryman to build expedient wall charges and such. At least they're taking out the trash.😂
@mornibeats808
@mornibeats808 10 ай бұрын
РедБулл надає крила! аххахахахахах
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 10 ай бұрын
They are recieving billions, and its not enough.
@TheBigOne0305
@TheBigOne0305 10 ай бұрын
As long as there are still Russians occupying parts of their country, looting, raping and killing their fellow countrymen, they will use any means necessary to take bake their homeland. If that includes showing plastic explosives into drink bottles, so be it.
@orionide4032
@orionide4032 10 ай бұрын
Would you stop being lazy and look where those "billions" are spent on! Its open for the public.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 10 ай бұрын
@@orionide4032 I do look up what its being used on. Now get lost russijan troll.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 10 ай бұрын
The US still has debts incurred from fighting in WW2. War is expensive, LUDICROUSLY expensive...
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
Yah wars are expensive.
@user-dm2kf4kn3e
@user-dm2kf4kn3e 7 ай бұрын
What level do you have to reach to unlock the crafting perk?
@Math667
@Math667 7 күн бұрын
2:31 Red Bull gives Wings ... in an absolute new way....
@toadfaceass
@toadfaceass 10 ай бұрын
haha, 'Ukraine totally winning' drinks can grenades. Hope they both lose this war is stupid.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
“Muh both sides bad” shut up dude. No one gives a shit about your fence sitting bullshit, especially when you have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about.
@Dimitri-Jordania
@Dimitri-Jordania 10 ай бұрын
Go Georgian legion!!! Слава Україні!!! 🇺🇦 დიდება საქართველო!!! 🇬🇪
@PashaSlavaUkraine
@PashaSlavaUkraine 10 ай бұрын
This takes, reb bull gives you wings 🪽 to a whole other level
@DTY9453
@DTY9453 5 ай бұрын
very impressive!
@originalbinaryhustler3876
@originalbinaryhustler3876 6 ай бұрын
where is all the aid and weapons that our tax payers gone gone to? WTF another cash grab
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 6 ай бұрын
In the tens of thousands of small arms, Bradleys, HIMARS, M777s, SAMs, Javelins, Stingers, Strykers etc etc.
@originalbinaryhustler3876
@originalbinaryhustler3876 6 ай бұрын
@@TheArmourersBench so Ukraine never had small arms or an army before the aid? GTFO here with ur bullshit talking like some paid for journalist
@thelilpeanutdotgov
@thelilpeanutdotgov 6 ай бұрын
@@originalbinaryhustler3876🤡🤡🤡
@user-ck4iu2pe8t
@user-ck4iu2pe8t 6 ай бұрын
Россия великая страна бойтесь нас
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 6 ай бұрын
Nahh
@user-ck4iu2pe8t
@user-ck4iu2pe8t 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheArmourersBenchА кто сильнее России???
@Masterb8te
@Masterb8te 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-ck4iu2pe8t we all are. America and ukrain. And soon everyone will be stronger when your homeland is a field of glass 😆
@user-de3cg6bp2x
@user-de3cg6bp2x 5 ай бұрын
Великая но с "небольшим" отклонениями в МО и в снабжении
@user-de3cg6bp2x
@user-de3cg6bp2x 5 ай бұрын
И я за Россию если что
@lachlanp3365
@lachlanp3365 10 ай бұрын
Come on red bull you like sponsoring extreme sports and stuff, what is more extreme than turning old red bull cans into grenades. It really gives new meaning to the slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings'
@skydivingcomrade1648
@skydivingcomrade1648 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@silverianjannvs5315
@silverianjannvs5315 10 ай бұрын
Where is the billions & billions $$$$ aid to Ukraine?
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
HIMARs, Stinger, Bradley, Javelin, HMMWVs, M777s etc etc.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
Do you guys have literally any other talking point?
@ericmattinen4728
@ericmattinen4728 10 ай бұрын
Besides paying for real weapons, I'm sure a portion is going to pad some bank accounts...
@Giganibba511
@Giganibba511 10 ай бұрын
​@@baneofbaneslike u mate defending Ukraine in media than go to Ukraine and help then penetrating the first defensive line out of 4 lines 😅
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 10 ай бұрын
@@Giganibba511 lol thank you for proving my point.
@dustyak79
@dustyak79 10 ай бұрын
If they got the fuses they got the grenades so they aren’t running out or not getting the aid . I’d suspect they are building them purpose built for a specific job
@lvhao5105
@lvhao5105 10 ай бұрын
excellent content
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 10 ай бұрын
Another reason to make these is why waste an anti-tank missile to take out a target when one of these will do. And also just for practice. You need a plan B even if you are getting what you want and need just incase
@long-hair-dont-care88.
@long-hair-dont-care88. 10 ай бұрын
Ty
@Mack_Dingo
@Mack_Dingo 10 ай бұрын
1:42 What are those silver and black folders? Almost like a make-up palette
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 10 ай бұрын
When you're really just about to give someone their wings.
@prfwrx2497
@prfwrx2497 10 ай бұрын
Plastic (explosives) Fantastic.
@jakob7693
@jakob7693 5 ай бұрын
This brings a whole new meaning to redbull gives you wings.
@fukkenPavlo
@fukkenPavlo 7 күн бұрын
That NON STOP drink is awesome, the only one that is better is probably REVO
@aussiviking604
@aussiviking604 10 ай бұрын
Trench warfare. Got a rabbit in a hole. Pop goes the weasel.
@AstroLoops69
@AstroLoops69 10 ай бұрын
Might I suggest a cheap laser pointer taped on strapped under the payload for a crude aiming method?
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