This has been my understanding as well

And Replica?

@@krisraps replica seems to be a gray area,you have people like superformance and RCR utilizing 85%+ of the recreated original parts and then you have replica's that go the other side and are meant to look like the car, but function differently. The most replica's that are on the market today are big money cars, it's just hard to discern what a kit/component car is and a replica begins. For example superformance comes as a rolling chassis minus engine and drivetrain. RCR is sold as a component car unless you choose to do their turnkey minus program where they build it all minus engine and ecu parts installed.

That's semantics. What you call a component car IS a kit car. Used or new status of components is not relevant.

Everything on mine was brand new, no donor. You can source everything yourself if you wanted to.

They are completely different animals. One is a 2500lb. race car and the other has ALL the nannies, and some extra pounds, and NO STICK.

The f5 GTM looks endlessly better than any Corvette especially the c8, which looks like our was designed by a Chinese child

You can’t compare those cars. This car is FAR lighter and more raw.

@Andrew Landes lol no. A v8 or at least a 6 cylinder turbo is needed for this car

@@jstdrv LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know how much the Lambo drive-train was by itself? And to be honest, at that rate I'd probably have gone with a Chevy small block or a Ford Coyote engine. Simple, and lots of room for insane power. I haven't heard a lot about modern Lamborghini engines, but if they're like Ferrari they're probably temperamental and then there's the parts cost too lol.

@@drownthepoor he didn’t buy a new Lamborghini V-10 and I don’t know what he paid. But in a couple of weeks he will post his Dyno Runs on KZfaq. Dan Dulac is his name look him up? Have a great week.

I've been following Dan's build from the beginning. Exceptional approach and skill set.

@@lefroy1 yes I was the one who towed his Beast to the Dyno shop owned by Marc. I have the 79 Chevy C-20 Truck. We live about 40 minutes from him.

@@dave5833 Right on! I remember that truck and thinking at the time 'What a beauty!' She's in great condition, and I can imagine becoming quite sought after, if not already (I'm fro the other side of the pond). Been patiently waiting for Dan's latest vid.. he teased a possible first drive at the end of the last one. I do hope he straps a couple Go-Pros to it and brings us along a few times. Bet people's reactions will be quite profound seeing that thing out in the wild,

Yet telling the truth would scare people.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 if you know what you are doing no it won't we the guys who build everything can cut corners and look good doing it.

Then some of them might have "Even Less Time" than they have now.

I scream that same quote at my windshield daily?

Or maybe they want to enjoy their drive safely, because it could be their last!

If young people knew how much time they had left if they race at that speed.

I've been sayin that

It's a costly hobby, suck money like a quick sand

You have to ask ICON 4X4 for that

And I'll absolutely destroy you omdragg and circuit track in my 92 civic hatch that is 1100hp at 1500 lbs curb weight.

I thought the LS1 only made 345-350

​@@neo-filthyfrank1347hahaha no shit, nice catch

It's been in development so long I'm looking forward to when it finally is released for sale

I was thinking a turbo 4.0 barra . But a turbo 4 rotor would wild.

Keep dreaming

Yep! Nobody should decide what you can and cannot have. Freedom!

I might start talking that crazy talk if

I do I rather have an umbrella when it's not raining and not needed Then need an umbrella when it's raining carry one with you Just in case

I need the address and phone number of that company so I can buy one

@@HansBelphegor I almost have have that rario lol 1100hp at 1500 lbs curb weight in my civic hatch

Hello, by respect if you got no tool or know-how, these kits are not for you. Go buy branded cars, it will cost you less you'll be much safer.

I looked at one too. I sat in it and couldn't see out of it worth a $%#$. It was like sitting in a tank. Great car, just not for the drivers out there.

They could, if they wanted to 😉

Not necessarily. It's just easier to keep a build on an existing title road legal.

I paid $1200 for a G96.01. Plenty strong for a 2500lb. car. The money for the C8 driveline would cost way more.

i know a guy that makes tcm for bmw 8 speeds hmu if u actually need that tcm

@@fazeobama8872 And I'll absolutely destroy you omdragg and circuit track in my 92 civic hatch that is 1100hp at 1500 lbs curb weight.

And I'll absolutely destroy you on drag and circuit track in my 92 civic hatch that is 1100hp at 1500 lbs curb weight.

@@JLUX100 You talkin' to me? There's nobody else here so you must be talkin' to me!

And imagine me spanking you in my 1100hp civic that weighs 1500lbs curb weight 🤙🏼

And lets realistically double the price to 50-70K and thats at entry level.

This car does 0-60 in 3 sec. with 505hp. 11.0 sec. 1/4 mile.

Whomever was running that car they didn't have it set up right.

There is a first gen in California that has been racing for 15 plus years and has won MULTIPLE endurance race championships.

@@carbonfiber8071 No doubt you can post links to results and videos. Even if it does exist, I guarantee-freaking-tee you the build and development cost way more than $25k. Like 6 figures. And it they’re actually competitive in the faster endurance classes, the first of those 6 figures is gonna be greater than 1.

@@americanAlienBoy You stuck your foot in your mouth that time. Look up Team PDG. Or you can go directly to FFR's website. Pretty well-known group. And they did it on almost NO budget. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Only if Ferrari allows it. You would have to get a 308 and get a body kit

It won't fit.

Front engine has major advantages for building a kit car and sourcing a drivetrain, specifically the difficulty and expense of the transmission required for mid-engine. Some companies like SuperLite now sell transmissions specifically for their car, but they are very expensive (Graziano for SLC is north of $14k by the time you get the transmission and the other parts needed). Front engine you could buy 400hp V8, clutch, and new Tremec for about that much. It definitely looks more racy with the engine in the back, and with lighter engines than a big American V8 as the F9R will use, some dynamic benefit as well. Keep in mind any kit is also intended to have a fairly simple (albeit powerful) drivetrain as well, with varying tarmac surfaces and a huge powerplant behind the driver with RWD (and no real electronic nanny devices), you will see more than a few in ditches. The F9R appears to have its engine very far back from the front of the car, in a sense it is mid-engine as the weight is distributed to get close to the 50/50 desired. Don't be surprised when the F9R is raced against a GTM of the same tires and hp if it is actually faster around the track.

@@sburns2421 you hit the nail on the head, but also I doubt any engine with 12 cylinders could possibly be lighter than an aluminum block LS. As somebody who built an ls6 swapped Miata (with some help from v8roadsters) I can attest a true corvette or gen IV 6.2 motor from an Escalade/Denali with an aluminum block is equal or lighter than a factory Miata 1.6. Yes, the Miata has an iron block and DOHC which adds weight but really I doubt you’ll find anything lighter than GM’s aluminum block 5.3, 5.7(ls1/6), 6.0(ls2), 6.2(ls3/l99/l92) or 7.0 ls7. Even doing something like an all aluminum Honda k24 will start racking up lbs when you add the turbo necessary to keep up with the v8 guys. There’s a reason Factory 5 has Chevy gen III/IV mounts tucked in the back of the catalog for their Shelby Cobra replicas. It may be sacreligous but it works just a little too well together for it not to be offered. Performance will always bridge brand loyalty, and as awesome as the 5.0 coyote or modular 4.6 are, overhead cam will never be as compact or light as a good ol American pushrod v8

They aren't going to discontinue the GTM until they have an outright replacement for the model. Dave's said multiple times that he isn't even sure the F9R as it currently is will be that model, or if one of the others they have partially developed might be.

Gay

@@finished6267 Butthurt blank burner account nobody

Nobody cares🤣

@@bri-manhunter2654 sounds like you care

Ahh yes the typical corny civic guy bringing his Sh*t box into the conversation.

Depends on who you are.

nooooo someone noticed 😭

@@QuickshiftCars It was worse you used "homemade" car pics instead of actual older kit cars.

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It's not like it's even hard! There's one patty! You said a double! A child could do better. It's lazy, sloppy stuff like that which annoys me the most.

rolling chassis no driveline (engine/transaxle/differential)

@@johnvillano9809 It's NOT a rolling chassis.

@@carbonfiber8071 i explained it to a novice as a roller for brevity

@@johnvillano9809 But you were completely wrong, briefly.

@@carbonfiber8071 when you are done building what they give you and put wheels on it it is a roller no? you supply engine and g60 from a porsche as driveline as an option