The FASTEST Gaming Laptop CPU is Here! 7945HX3D 25 Game Test
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AMD’s new Ryzen 9 7945HX3D is the fastest laptop processor in games, with up to 50% more FPS compared to the next best CPU! At least in one game - it varies, which is why we’ve compared 25 games at 3 resolutions to see what the difference is compared to the 7945HX and Intel’s best i9-13980HX.
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7945HX3D vs 13980HX vs 7945HX Timestamps:
0:00 Up To 50% Better in Games!?
0:43 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte
1:19 CPU Spec Differences - AMD
1:49 3D V-Cache Layout
2:20 CPU Spec Differences - Intel
2:40 Laptops Tested
4:15 25 Games Tested at 1080p, 1440p & 4K
4:37 Microsoft Flight Simulator - Biggest Difference!
5:10 Spider-Man
5:37 Cyberpunk 2077
6:10 Watch Dogs Legion
6:33 Total War: WARHAMMER III
6:46 Hogwarts Legacy
7:07 Apex Legends
7:32 Far Cry 6 - AMD’s Big Comeback
7:57 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
8:11 16 More Games Compared
8:47 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 1080p
9:25 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 1440p
9:41 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 4K
10:06 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 1080p
10:27 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 1440p
10:40 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 4K
10:53 25 Game Average at all 3 Resolutions
11:19 Slow FPS - CCD Problems with 3D V-Cache
13:08 Price Difference & Laptop Deals
14:12 Cost Per Frame (Best Value)
14:33 Thermals & App Testing
14:41 Cinebench R23 - Single / Multi Core Difference
15:13 Temperature Difference
15:32 TDP Difference
15:42 Clock Speed Difference
16:05 Power Draw Difference
16:13 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
16:31 Linux Kernel & LLVM Compilation
17:01 All Other Tests (Rendering/Adobe/etc)
17:30 7945HX3D vs 13980HX in all Apps - 65W TDP
17:55 7945HX3D vs 13980HX in all Apps - 130W TDP
18:05 7945HX3D vs 7945HX in all Apps - 65W TDP
18:19 7945HX3D vs 7945HX in all Apps - 130W TDP
18:37 iGPU Game Comparison
18:53 Battery Life Difference
19:16 Is 7945HX3D Worth It?
20:32 WAY More Than Just CPU Differences!
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@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
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@alchemy2688 9 ай бұрын
Can you donate one to me I’m from Ghana I need one badly
@johndoh5182 9 ай бұрын
Hey dude really good job on this review. I've been waiting for this comprehensive test to see where today's laptops are in gaming and everything else. There certainly isn't a "loser" with any of these laptops, I mean the ability to game and do production has improved SO MUCH over the last 3 years it's ridiculous. I think if I were going by price I get the 3D part. If I had specific workloads that I'm always running I'm picking which does best there if the difference is worth the cost, otherwise I'm still going with the 3D part.
@infoparkhall 9 ай бұрын
Do you expect such additional cash for games to appear in mid range processors?
@Dgnkrty 9 ай бұрын
can you do a review of the 2023 HP Victus 16 with the ryzen 5 7640hs and the 4060 8gb gpu please? i am very interested in your thoughts about the updated victus 16. i think the problem with the hinges is also gone. ive got one now and i got to say im very pleased with the machine. but id like to know the opinion and of course the benchmarks from a pro.
@spacegas7346 9 ай бұрын
It appears that most of these CPUs are GPU limited with those Mobile 4090s. Have you tried or might you test using an external Desktop 4090 GPU and Monitor to push the CPU to its limits with the same laptops. I believe that may show how capable they all are. Nice Video by the way. i always enjoy seeing where AMD is going in the Mobile space. Hope there is an All AMD roundup soon to see where they stand compared to last year or at least since January and how they can improve. Thanks for all the great content!
@poemontyperacer 9 ай бұрын
jarrod is slowly disappearing behind more and more laptops in these videos
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
I literally had to put the table lower so you could still see me
@NaumanAsif 9 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTechI hope to see the unlowered version as a community post if possible 😂. Amazing and informative content as always.
@Ishan.khanna 9 ай бұрын
Next video by laptops tech ft. Jarrod
@schizofennec 9 ай бұрын
Drowning in 4090 ROG Laptops is a good problem to have :)
@MrBearTuga 8 ай бұрын
🤣😂
@cameronbosch1213 9 ай бұрын
If only this beast CPU was put into the 2023 design and not the 2020 design...
@vali69 9 ай бұрын
It's asus, what do you expect? They'll probably get around to doing it next year or something, they're always slow like this.
@cameronbosch1213 9 ай бұрын
@@vali69 Nah. They just hate AMD now.
@mcslender2965 9 ай бұрын
Let's hope Lenovo will make use of this chip
@vali69 9 ай бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 nah if you pay attention they're doing them in some sort of rotation, this year amd is on the down, and intel is on the up, same with gpus. Next year might be different.
@cameronbosch1213 9 ай бұрын
@vali69 Did you watch the video? AMD clearly is ahead in terms of raw CPU power, although they are indeed behind in terms of GPU power.
@abdulcelilarslan6003 9 ай бұрын
You're covering every single detail that I can't even imagine. This review must've taken you more than a week. Holy cow... Props to your hard work and dedication ❤
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! It did take my partner and I about a week or so to test everything.
@libiroli 9 ай бұрын
My takeaway from this video is that the real beast is Jarrod. What an effort!! Your work is greatly appreciated not just by consumers, but also people in the industry and investors. Thank you.
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
💪 It did take my partner and I about a week to test everything, so I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
@southlondontransport 9 ай бұрын
Great video jarrod! Seeing that the 7945HX3D's great in terms of leads at 1080p so i think it would be great as an E-Sports Gaming laptop for example in a Gigabyte Aorus laptop since they still use 1080p 360hz screens in some laptops.
@eliot9217 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving us all the content creation benchmarks!
@tommy10436 7 ай бұрын
Amazing content. Amazing delivery. Love to see your sub count increasing every time I see a new vid. Amazing, man.
@JarrodsTech 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@doge-of-venice 9 ай бұрын
Wow! What a monumental undertaking of a video. You deserve a lot more views than other tech review channels like LTT considering the level of effort which goes into each of your videos.
@oluwadarejoshua8595 9 ай бұрын
1 man team with accurate results vs a whole team with errors
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! @@oluwadarejoshua8595 Just to be clear we're 2 people for the last year or two :) my girlfriend helps with testing.
@TheMarkhhuk 9 ай бұрын
Great comparison as always, including the information we need to know :-)
@richusomy3368 9 ай бұрын
I like the gaming benchmarks bar chart you put up in most videos with numbers comparing every laptop you review. It would be nice if you have that data on your website and it’d help your viewers go back and check the website whenever they want.
@Gc7788m 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jarrod and partner!
@TbZwtf 9 ай бұрын
Great video Jarrod , have a good weekend !
@jimalfauraq388 9 ай бұрын
When I heard words "fair comparison" you are one of the best mate, thanks for the effort🎉
@jeromemayhew6085 9 ай бұрын
always dropping the right vids at the right time.
@TheDarksideFNothing 9 ай бұрын
Great video! As usual, 3D v-cache benefits vary wildly from game to game. If you spend a lot of time on games that benefit then its probably worth spending a little extra to get v-cache. If you dont it's probably not.
@QuantumConundrum 9 ай бұрын
I really like the inclusion of Matlab in the testing, many gaming laptops find dual purposes :) However, there be dragons here: historically, Matlab had to release a patch to leverage avx instructions properly with AMD. Prior to this, people had to follow special steps to get Ryzen/AMD chips to their expected performance. I don't really know the state of things nowadays, but I advise extra care for Matlab+AMD. I do not know if the performance difference in the video could be improved with special patches, etc. PS: Based on a quick search things got fixed in 2020? Anyhow, just a warning.
@steph_on_yt 9 ай бұрын
Impressive performance when it's working properly. Too bad games don't always run on the 3D V-Cache CCD, and there isn't a more sensible 8-core 7745HX3D model available (not that it would make a lot of sense on a $2500 laptop anyway). Oh well, shouldn't be a problem for hardcore enthusiasts I guess.
@shamsielshahar120 9 ай бұрын
And people who has lots of money.
@gabrielv.4358 9 ай бұрын
you mean $25000
@pogibear9743 9 ай бұрын
Awesome and meticulous work as always! Just a quick question, will you also be reviewing and comparing handheld pcs soon? I want to see how good the Legion Go is compared to the ROG Ally. I love my Deck but Starfield's performance is making me want to switch.
@jjboybeamer 9 ай бұрын
Another great review by the man the myth the legend 🎉🎉🎉
@Tom_Quixote 9 ай бұрын
How about comparing a $1000 gaming laptop with a $1000 desktop computer? I'm wondering how big the performance gap is these days.
@judsondematosfernandes467 9 ай бұрын
Nice!
@kodakblack531 9 ай бұрын
A
@steph_on_yt 9 ай бұрын
@@kodakblack531 I'm done with the laptop life but there's no way a $1000 PC is beating a $2500 laptop.
@kodakblack531 9 ай бұрын
@@steph_on_yt hell yeah there is especially if you know how to build a pc!
@woozykoala159 9 ай бұрын
@@steph_on_yt The cheapest 4090 laptop is the HP Omen 17 which sits around $2800. Even if we considered this, you could match the performance with a brand new barebones AM4 build with a used 6950xt at $1000. You’d have a 5600 w/ stock cooler, B550 mobo, 32GB 3600 MHz RAM, 1TB SSD, B Tier 750W PSU, and a CC560 case. Used 6950xt go at about $550 right now so it’s pretty doable and you’re only barely bottlenecking with that cpu at 1440p. This wouldn’t include the monitor but I’d argue if you’re spending an extra $300 on the laptop for this comparison then you can use that for desktop peripherals. The 4080 mobile is even easier to match as its desktop counterpart is around an RX 6800. These go for $430 brand new and even cheaper used. I’d wager you could include a high refresh 1440p 27” VA panel in that $1000 budget if you’re smart with your other parts. I imagine this we become even easier after the new RDNA3 cards (7700xt and 7800xt) are released and the older generation gets even cheaper.
@ForgoMangi 9 ай бұрын
Your reviews are awesome as always Jarrod’s tech. Have you heard of the recently announced Lenovo Legion 9i, guess you were right on them planning to release it all along since most of the features of last year’s legion 7(2022) were returned to this legion 9i lineup. I’m really excited on looking forward for you to review the laptop 😊
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! They told me a few weeks ago they're trying to get us a review unit
@Peichen01 9 ай бұрын
Really? An ultra class Legion to kick all other gaming laptop's butt? Nice
@TeeWadeG 9 ай бұрын
@@Peichen01that is what the legion 7/7i was in 2021/2022
@Peichen01 9 ай бұрын
@@TeeWadeG The 2021/2022 Legion 7 Pro was the best gaming laptop but still too heavy and the screen not perfect for creative works. The. Re Legion 9 is nearly 1 lb. lighter and have a screen that’s perfect for gaming and creative work.
@levi_exiled8579 9 ай бұрын
You are one of the best tec, laptop KZfaqrs. As a laptop gamer, I thank you for your content.
@aisjdoaidf1490 9 ай бұрын
very nice review. 1 request/question. Test all these versions with faster ddr5 memory (something like 7200 or even 8000 if that's what's hot now,or whatever works best) and compare the differences with these results. This will show us at least 2 things, that is scaling with better memory on both platforms and how much of a role better memory plays for the extra bulky 3d v-cache (since if I remember correctly 3d v-cache versions didn't really care about memory speeds at least for desktop (I mean it hasn't existed for laptops until now anyway so)). This should shed more light on the nature of 3d v-cache. PS. Hopefully Jarrod will see this comment. It's not much work you have half done so you can copy paste these results. This is an issue that must be addressed at all costs xd
@BarikAzka 9 ай бұрын
sadly you cant get high memory speed in ddr5 for laptop (at the moment) unless using the lpddr5 ram which mean non upgradeble ram
@sumawardhen198 9 ай бұрын
"these are not cheap gaming laptops, so it's worth spend extra minutes to do some research." You care about us viewer a lot. I very appreciate your videos as it's very detail and to the point, Thank you for your videos.
@supremacy98 9 ай бұрын
Oh so the 7945HX3D is the mobile version of the 7950X3D, where the v-cache is located on one of the CCDs. As mentioned, not all games might run on the CCD with the v-cache, not making use of the extra v-cache present which we’ve seen on the 7950X3D. I hope they’ll make a 7800X3D mobile equivalent, like a 7940HS3D or 7950HX3D, which will be cheaper and more popular amongst gamers
@Thewickedjon 9 ай бұрын
Running cinnebench and seeing my strix g15's 5900hx FLAT OUT DESTROY my desktop's i9 9900k was a real eye opener for me. One day during a live game with friends my desktop decided to BSOD , so i just plugged my monitor, keyboard & mouse to my laptop, and jumped right back in and finished the game. What I noticed was that , IN GAME, (what I use my PC for) i felt absolutely NO difference between the strix vs the i9 desktop... both ran the game perfectly. The difference was I could unplug my laptop and take it w/me whenever i wanted... From that day fwd, FOR ME, DESKTOP hardware = HOMELAB SERVER hardware.
@justabeardedguythatisahero9848 9 ай бұрын
Jarrod the new legion lenovo 9i is there ? did you get your hands on a one ?
@doubleshot9448 6 ай бұрын
uXTU doesn’t work with dragon range at the moment, so tweaking the clocks and offsets is all on Lenovo. In their bios there is a UV offset option, dropping it to a -3 to -5 all core offset multiplier, will improve temps btw. Even tho they are meant to run hot and stay pushing, playing starfield on mine, with a -4uv in bios, it didnt throttle once according to HWINFO, max temp was 94 average temp was 82, this was on balance mode in the legion software. I have a 4080 model, I was averaging 80-100 fps, when I turned it on performance mode it still did not throttle but did get to 100c on the die however the individual cores never went above 80-90 or just looking at the CCD die 1 (because atarfield likes core 5 🤷♂️ lol.) it didn’t even hit 100 even though the game was running on ccd1 avg temp was 86 and even cooler on ccd2. Same with the ccd die avg. You can get the temps even cooler if you go into custom mode and with a reasonable fairly quiet fan curve and power limits, get the temps down even more. I almost returned it at one point cuz I was only looking at the cpu die max alll the time and not avg or current. Also boost clocks can stil hit 5.6 with the UV. I have a 7i on order for the same price I paid for this one with the same specs (literally exact same) except Intel version, and I am now gonna cancel that order, they are on back order but I managed to snag it at 1999 with 4080 32gb 1tb which is what I paid for the AMD model. I don’t think I want to return the PRo anymore and am going to cancel the 7i order.
@schizofennec 9 ай бұрын
Nice review, Im glad to see x3d making its way to laptops. Any idea if you will do a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 2023 14" review if/when it comes out? this is the one ive been most excited for all year since i love lenovo's build quality, its apparently out and shipped but i havent been able to find anything on it.
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
We just started testing it today!
@silentbutdeadly9726 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your hardwork brother
@RexGeezy 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jarrod can i ask which laptop is better to bought? My options are Legion Pro 5i or Asus Strix G16? Both are 4060 and i7. Thank you for your answer 😁
@casperellison5729 9 ай бұрын
I can’t tell if Jarrod enjoyed doing all the testing, measuring and encoding all of the data. The nerd and gamer in me thinks he loved it all the way, but the practical me is shaking my head, hehehe. Eitherway, super great video and lays it out clear for an informed decision. Budget be damned.
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
It was fun at the start, but after the first two I just wanted to move on, and that is with my partner also working on the game testing.
@jonjon3829 3 ай бұрын
if you manually underclock the limit on the non 3d cores by a few hundred mhz you can ensure the games run on the 3d cache cores.
@deilusi 9 ай бұрын
We can also safely assume list of games and programs benefiting from a lot of cache will only grow as intel is also going that route, and they are thinking about making massive l4 caches. I only assume making game that utilizes everything, when it needs to fit into 16MB that was mainstream up to like 3 years ago is not easy. once we have a lot of cache, even on lowest specs, we will see a big spike in ultilization
@socialanimal2061 9 ай бұрын
the effort you put into this video is amazing, you deserve more man
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@BenjaminRodriguezReyes 9 ай бұрын
1:43 so you're saying that the 3D won't OC on the CCD with the 3D V?
@cemokan4629 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jarrod, which mode did you use for the tests? Turbo mode or performance? CPU clock speeds seems low to me. I have rog g16 with i9 13980hx, and i expect to see the clock speeds over 4000 with turbo mode. By the way, mine has rtx4070. So, i don't know. Mayb, gpu effects the cpu clock speeds
@theguypersondude 9 ай бұрын
Can you add dawbench tests for future laptops? Would love to aee this as a musician.
@BaraaTech 9 ай бұрын
Amazing! Please do a review of the highlz popular Tuf F15 (2023) RTX4060 or RTX4070
@Ahtisham 9 ай бұрын
17:02 Seems like 7945HX3D and 4090 is the best combo for Blender
@yianovich 9 ай бұрын
Please compared the flow x13 with the flow X16 or simply bring more content on the flow lineup
@osamamamdouh9888 9 ай бұрын
Nice review Jarrod .. Are u gonna review the predator this year ?
@telephoto 9 ай бұрын
isn’t that a film?
@osamamamdouh9888 9 ай бұрын
@@telephoto No it's the Acer predator laptop
@daweitao2668 9 ай бұрын
Unless I missed it an averaging of 1% lows across all the games would be nice. Seems just as pertinent as overall averages
@DarthChewie 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for raising awareness about the CCD issue of games running on the wrong cores. If anything, I'm a bit surprised that AMD chose to release a 16-core 3D v-cache chip exclusively in a dedicated gaming laptop where the extra CCD with no v-cache has little to no benefit for gaming. If AMD was going to release a 3D v-cache mobile part aimed at gamers, and subsequently limit it's availability to a single SKU from 1 vendor, it seems like they would have been better off releasing an 8-core version rather than 16-core, where they could avoid all issues of games running on the wrong CCD. My only explanation for AMD's choice to go with a 16-core variant would be for the purposes of deceptive marketing wherein they could still claim the 5.4GHz clock speed, rather than whatever lower clock speed the 3D CCD can reach. AMD's marketing materials don't include that clock speed, but based on the drop in clock speed on desktop between the 7700X (5.4GHz) and 7800X3D (5.0GHz), it's safe to assume the 3D v-cache CCD on the 7945HX3D likely also maxes at 5.0GHz, which wouldn't look as impressive on marketing materials and can deceive most consumers. Obviously, for multicore workloads it makes a huge difference, but on a laptop with strong a gamer-aesthetic design marketed towards gamers, it seems like an odd choice. Gamers have no need for the extra 8-cores, and those who work with heavy multi-core workloads would be better off with the higher multi-core performance of the non-3D 7945HX. Even if those professionals want gaming performance, just the fact that the regular 7945HX is close to the margin of error of the X3D part (especially at 1440p & 4k) and then also on-par with the Intel flagship 13980HX, they could be happy knowing they aren't leaving any meaningful performance on the table for gaming, while getting noticeably better performance in their professional workloads. The trade-off doesn't make much sense.
@N.K.--- 9 ай бұрын
That l3 cache is awesome for gaming amd 👌
@Problz 9 ай бұрын
@Jarrod'sTech what is a good CPU and GPU combination for AutoCAD and programming used in Windows and Linux os, Also if Could you recommend some laptops.
@iLegionaire3755 9 ай бұрын
Best Laptop reviewer on KZfaq! No contest.
@technologicalelite8076 9 ай бұрын
12:01 Unsure if you can do this in Windows 10, bit on Windows 11, can't you just go to the details tab on Task Manager? Anywho, hoping to this and a lot of other stuff on a Black Friday deal!
@rotarydude07 9 ай бұрын
Will you be reviewing the the new Lenovo Legion 9i... the first "liquid-cooling" pump.
@kayenatnoor7704 9 ай бұрын
I want to see a review of msi raider ge 78hx. I always been a fan of the ge series 🙏🙏🙏
@jcpoblete156 9 ай бұрын
Hello jarrod..sorry to bother u..but can i just ask u about what gaming laptop would u recommend to me..preferably an asus..im thinking about the tuf f15 4050 or above..is it worth it?btw d price that here n d philppines is 1900$..& i think its over priced..or do have other laptops that u would recommnd but not super expensive..tnx man...
@lrmcatspaw1 5 ай бұрын
I hope we will get soon a 8 core 3d-v cache cpu from amd for laptops.
@FoxxFire 9 ай бұрын
It's such a good point about this chip only coming with a 4090 where you'll be playing at higher resolutions, which makes the difference very minor, if any, since you at that point are gpu limited. And since this isn't a desktop where you might change graphics cards over time, you'll never really see the benefit of the faster chip in a laptop. So, with the downsides that accompany this chip, it's almost better even at equivalent price to choose the non-x3d, and considering the higher price and the fact that it's only put in dated hardware, it's almost certainly a better option to go with the non-x3d chip and get a newer design with a better display, better aspect ratio and more robust cooling system.
@Your_Paramour 8 ай бұрын
The other thing to consider is more often than not you'll probably be playing with DLSS enabled, and DLSS quality on a 1440p screen has an internal resolution of 1080p, so you'll still see the benefit in a lot of games.
@nnarcus 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. I thought it would perform better in CPU heavy games like total war. Heard lots of good things about using a 3d cache CPU for Guild Wars 2, as it is a very cpu heavy game.
@ronied125 9 ай бұрын
Can you review the new Legion 9i that got announced?
@d1kgaws12 9 ай бұрын
Wish this processor was on more laptops.
@gustavoszambrano904 3 ай бұрын
Check your stats. In call of duty 7945hx3d beats in all three benchmarks both average and 1% lows but @8:48 shows the opposite in the bar graph.
@senseiraijuryanyuki8023 9 ай бұрын
I ended up getting the 7840hs paired with the rtx 4050. I would love to see you do a review on it! Acer Nitro 17 R6L9
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Acer are hard to get stuff from at the moment, not sure why!
@nishant5655 9 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTechThey are ignoring diamond and chasing after copper 😅
@bits2646 9 ай бұрын
OMG I wish I'd have those 3 laptops on my table :DD
@o0mrrobot0o26 8 ай бұрын
Man I want one of these so bad but I can't find them anywhere!
@muhammadalvinyufianofirdau9591 9 ай бұрын
If ryzen 9 7945hx3d mounted on aorus 17x pair with rtx 4090+double of usb c and fix the bubble flex keyboard nah what a monster laptop🔥
@EpicBunty 9 ай бұрын
wow. what an incredible job dude.
@danielmatos5025 9 ай бұрын
Hey Jarrod , can you review the Asus TUF a15 (2023) please ? I dont know if i should go for it or buy the new legion slim 5i (both 4070rtx) but lenovo legion is more expensive I have a low tier legion that i held for 7 years so i need a change :)
@Just_An_Ignacio 9 ай бұрын
If i don't remember wrong, X3D CPUs use Xbox Game bar for the thread scheduling, even like this is not perfect anyways.
@pascaljean2333 9 ай бұрын
What was the cinebench score?
@Truth___ 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jarrod one question why don't you show Valorant for FPS comparison I mean that is a CPU intensive game and would have been a good fit for this video as it's all about CPU. Also a large number of people play that game
@seang9764 5 ай бұрын
Really wish he would have talked about future protecting. UE5 games are just starting to hit the market, and I expect will be optimized for 3D chips. I expect the 3d to make a bigger difference as time goes along. Would have been nice to have a discussion about if you need to worry about it, and if so when? 2 years from now or 4 when your going to replace it anyway........ I don't want to overspend but I don't want to buy something that I'll want to replace in a year.
@cameronbosch1213 9 ай бұрын
16:55 It may be the use of a kernel that doesnt yet have support for V-Cache for Ubuntu 23.04.
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
Yeah possibly, but given the other workloads didn't matter either in Windows, meh.
@cameronbosch1213 9 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Oh, I'm not saying it would have had a difference, but given that the Linux kernel in use on Ubuntu 23.04 was released before the V-Cache was announced, it may be more optimized for other things with Ubuntu 23.10.
@rileyhance318 9 ай бұрын
a mobile version of the 7800x3d with only 8cores would make way more sense in a gaming laptop. i have a 7700x in my desktop and never once felt like i needed more cores
@ricky4673 9 ай бұрын
Until they put a desktop 4090 in the laptop, it isnt worth the vcache. Maybe one manufacturer will do this one day.
@rileyhance318 9 ай бұрын
@@ricky4673 considering you get 50% uplift in games while using less power it seems like a no brainer for a laptop. a desktop 4090 will never work due to power and cooling limitations of a portable device.
@steph_on_yt 9 ай бұрын
@@rileyhance318 Dragon Range is a poor choice for anything other than bulky desktop replacements because of the atrocious battery life. That's the main reason why the only V-Cache CPU available right now is the top-end 7945HX3D. Manufacturers aren't going to put an 8-core CPU in their very expensive desktop replacement machines.
@ricky4673 9 ай бұрын
@@rileyhance318 you must be a 1080p gamer lol. Im a 4k gamer dude. Also, there have been solutions for that. They just havnt been released commercially.
@rileyhance318 9 ай бұрын
@@ricky4673 I have a desktop I built myself with a 7700x with 360aio, strix 3080 ti, lg 27inch 1440p 240hz oled monitor. for laptops I currently have a legion 7 with an 8 core 5000 ryzen chip and a 3060. I have a seperate micro pc on my lg oled tv in living room for steam streaming from my main rig if I want to play in 4k, both main rig and micro are running on 2.5gb internal network so latency is minimal. 4k on a desktop monitor is for the most part wasted unless you are using a 40inch monitor which for how close you sit to it is also a waste. 1080p for laptops, 1440p for desktop, and 4k for couch. wouldnt have it any other way
@rigvedrai5612 9 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on legion 9( liquid cooling system)
@AmirAli38555 9 ай бұрын
Hello, which do you think I should buy between Legion 5 2022 with 12700h and RTX 3070 and Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 with 13700HX and RTX4060?
@HyakuNiJuSan123 9 ай бұрын
Anyone impressed with the waving of arms in between the laptops as he talks lol video was great.
@cashmoney2159 9 ай бұрын
Jarrod how much extra money should I spend on an I3 12th gen laptop over an amd Ryzen 3 Radeon 610M igpu one?
@utkarshbabbar2335 9 ай бұрын
Do a comparison video on rtx 3080ti and rtx 4070 laptop varient
@jayzed2000 4 ай бұрын
I'm late to the party, but wouldn't it make more sense to just increase the L2 cache to 32MB (like Intel did) and split the extra L3 3D V-cache between the 2 CCD's going forward? That way it would be the same if it ran on one CCD or the other, or both I'm a hardware newbie, I mostly focus on software but now that I saw this, I just had this question in mind. Great video.
@isoulxbladei9244 7 ай бұрын
I guess not worth upgrading from my Msi Ge67 hx from last year. Lets see the laptop performances next year.
@yoiqsrambadian2444 9 ай бұрын
V-cache lead a significant margin on lower resolution. It'll interesting if AMD pair V-cache on U-series for handheld devices.
@TheDarksideFNothing 9 ай бұрын
Do they make U series laptops with discrete graphics? I'd expect you'd be heavily GPU limited in most cases with an iGPU anyway, so it probably wouldn't matter.
@yoiqsrambadian2444 9 ай бұрын
@@TheDarksideFNothing I don't know whether V-cache more efficient on lower wattage, but if it's efficient enough I think more power could be shifted to the iGPU.
@TheDarksideFNothing 9 ай бұрын
@@yoiqsrambadian2444 my understanding is that V-Cache doesn't have as much advantage at lower clock speeds. Basically that the benefit of V-Cache is primarily in allowing better IPC scaling at high clocks. The higher the clock the more the extra cache actually benefits. If that's the case it could really limit the utility of V-Cache on U series. Though I'd love to see some testing in that regard. I wonder too if instead of putting V-Cache on the CPU, if they could instead attach some kind of cache to the iGPU. Perhaps a big cache pool could alleviate some of the issues with DDR5 bandwidth/latency for GPU tasks. I could see something like that being especially beneficial for the really big APUs like in the consoles or upcoming Strix Halo.
@steph_on_yt 9 ай бұрын
There's no point in putting V-Cache on a heavily power-constrained and GPU-limited handheld. The CPU in the Z1 Extreme is already way overkill for the small amount of CUs in the APU.
@TheDarksideFNothing 9 ай бұрын
@@steph_on_yt as a tangent to OPs idea, I wonder if adding a big chunk of cache to the GPU could be beneficial in reducing the penalties of working with DDR5 instead of a GDDR memory pool. It could be more expensive than it's worth on U series APUs, but I wonder about big APUs like upcoming Strix Halo.
@soulkicker7101 9 ай бұрын
Please do a review of helios 16 and tuf a 15 2023 rtx 4060
@Blue_Sky2077 9 ай бұрын
they crazy now
@NadirHalli-rl5xu 9 ай бұрын
Hi I just bought the acer predator helios 300 with inteli9-11900h and rtx 3070(2021 version) And i found the reviews that you did about this laptop but with another cpu(i7 -11800h) So is this pc is still bad even with the i9 11 gen or its better then the other one to see if gonna keep it or return it What d'u all think ?
@DeadlyDragon935 9 ай бұрын
seems like a lot of the examples were gpu limited because of how beastly the cpus are.
@joeh9532 9 ай бұрын
Wish i would of got the strix G18 4080 when it was on sale
@lucal7756 9 ай бұрын
I want more 1080p 4080 laptops, like Aorus 17H!
@ITxc 9 ай бұрын
yo jarrod i got a new 3050 laptop with a 11400h but its slow asf while doing normal stuff like browsing chrome but fast when playing games u know why? its windows 11 if thats helps and system tast sometimes has high cpu usage
@darkmessiah9566 Ай бұрын
How is the 7945hx3d for emulations? Like pcsx2, rcps3, dolphin?
@BloodyCrusty 8 ай бұрын
Hi can you please test the 3d new amd laptop on Escape From Tarkov please thank you
@baboka2616 9 ай бұрын
Yeah these laptops are nice and all, but i wonder how many people actually buy it. I would like that you cover the mid range to budget options a bit more.
@spencer871 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Spending like 3+k USD on a laptop has got to be really niche.
@deyoviC 9 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on how to tune a tighten a high end gaming laptop? Or any gaming laptop that can be tuned for that matter. I currently have the Aorus 17X AXF with the i9-13980HX and 4080 and I am getting around 25k maximum on Cinebench R23. I have tried setting a 130W power limit on Intel XTU. Set fans to max and my temperatures are around low 80s in Celsius. I am not hitting more than 90 temperature after half an hour in Cinebench. It goes at around 3.4GHz on P cores and 2.9GHz on E cores during workload, then after the first pass usually goes down to lower values like 2.9GHz on P cores and 2.4GHz on E cores. So, what could be the issue I am not sure. What am I missing? Not just for me, but I believe anyone can use the tips as a general guidance as there's far too few videos about this topic anyway. Thanks.
@1r0n82 9 ай бұрын
Legion 9i review plox! Planning to buy it very soon and would love to watch your review before I click the "Buy" button. :P
@spencer871 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind 5th gen RTX cards are coming next summer probably. I'm waiting because I have a 3070 as is.
@setiaciel749 9 ай бұрын
Noice... Extra FPS with RGB enabled... 😮
@JarrodsTech 9 ай бұрын
I forgot to compare that, time to delete the video
@hammomy 9 ай бұрын
But how about the temperature?
@nwo2616 9 ай бұрын
Sir Jarrod new laptop is gigabyte g6 next video? Thanks
@windowsxp1 9 ай бұрын
would the desktop version of the 7945hx35 beat an i9 13900k?
@-tsvk- 9 ай бұрын
11:19 Wasn't the problem of assigning the correct cores of an AMD X3D processor to use in a game solved by the Xbox Game Bar application from Microsoft Store? At least that's my understanding of how it's working on desktop X3D processors.
@markjacobs1086 9 ай бұрын
It doesn't always work sadly. It's why the dual CCD chips aren't recommended to people that don't do anything other than gaming.
@chrisramos604 9 ай бұрын
My legion Pro 7i with 13900hx can hit upto 6hrs on battery power thats with Adaptive refresh rate and Quite mode, Im surprised I get decent amount of battery power on Intel machine as I tried Dell g15 with 5800h and legion 5 with 11800h, the dell can get upto 7-8hrs on battery while my legion 5 can get up to 4hrs only.
@sagarpandita6916 9 ай бұрын
I would suggest you to try dota 2 for any CPU related tests, its more of a CPU intensive game especially when you have started a game against bots.
@aboassaad4759 9 ай бұрын
please make video about i9 13900KS vs Ryzen 9 7950X3D I need to see this
@technology4314 9 ай бұрын
Could you review the acer helios 16 rtx 4070?
@stevenolson3977 9 ай бұрын
Experientially, probably not worth the extra money. If you are already getting over 100 FPS (aside from hyper competitive settings), what difference does another 10-15 fps make? Would be interesting to see an 8 core CPU with 3D cache paired with an RTX 4060 or 4070.
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