The Fellowship of the Ring - Updated Color Grade

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Chris Hartwell

Chris Hartwell

Күн бұрын

If you're interested in checking out this cut of The Fellowship of the Ring, just shoot me an email: thehartbeatmail@gmail.com
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@guyr3618
@guyr3618 3 жыл бұрын
I, for one, adore the over-the-top golden coloring in Rivendell. It might be my nostalgia, but... Rivendell is supposed to be the coolest place in the world that isn't Valinor, and it's supposed to FEEL magical, and the unnatural golden light just brings it all home for me. Regardless - you're doing god's work, thank you so much :)
@jpcreativeimagery
@jpcreativeimagery 2 жыл бұрын
I second that, it's the one change I would absolutely rail against with this reimagining. The use of color or absence of certain colors etc sets a scene and a mood and is an extremely powerful tool. It's not nostalgia, it's essential for this magical place and conveys the aura of the location.
@DorkyThorpy
@DorkyThorpy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpcreativeimagery Dito. Same with the blue lighting on top of the Tower of Orthanc, it Ok to have a wash of colour no and again for a specific purpose. I wonder what the light director (?) of the original film thinks, seeing all of their careful choices swept away, in the name of what . . . clarity? Who gives a frack about clarity.
@boudreauxbroletariat3959
@boudreauxbroletariat3959 3 жыл бұрын
i am soooooo glad that somebody besides me noticed the weird colour grading. and I'm so glad that Chris hartwell is the one to revisit the changes - i cant imagine it being in better hands. I can't wait to reexperience these films the way they looked on the big screen when I saw them as a kid.
@rovhalt6650
@rovhalt6650 3 жыл бұрын
With a movie like Fellowship that has such variety in color between dark and light, it gets really noticeable when instead of just the dark scenes looking gloomy, the bright and warm scenes look gloomy aswell.
@0nyxghost
@0nyxghost 2 жыл бұрын
The latest Remastered 15 disc Blu-Ray Trilogy of the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions has proper color range. The box cover has a black and grey map background with portion of the ring with glowing lettering. The top of the box has a gold banner with REMASTERED BLU-RAY TRILOGY in silver. The 15 disc set contains 3 blue storage cases with 5 discs in each. 6 Blu-Rays for 3 films and 9 DVDs of extras. No greenish grey tint in the Fellowship of the Ring. Beautiful white clouds and snow as seen by the human eye when sunlight is broken down into all visible colors and scattered in multiple directions.
@joejonker8564
@joejonker8564 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been looking for this answer all night lol
@erock81487
@erock81487 Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the newer 4k edition? Or the blu ray extended edition that is in the gold cover/box w/ three cases that are black?
@stuffthings9618
@stuffthings9618 Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU FOR THIS
@simonsaysrewind
@simonsaysrewind Жыл бұрын
Just bought this yesterday... cant wait to see as I seen historic issues of previous blurays and I never bought into them as I enjoy the original extended dvds that are still in mint condition. The packaging of the original dvds is still the best I think.
@manuelbau4528
@manuelbau4528 Жыл бұрын
You mean this one? Https://kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5qCfayBxp_cYqM.html
@michaelbell0723
@michaelbell0723 Жыл бұрын
I want to rewatch all these movies in your colour grade because they look surprisingly better than the extended edition colour grade
@williamr.s.5693
@williamr.s.5693 2 жыл бұрын
Ah you legend, thank you so much for doing this for our community! =D I did notice something was off when I watched the extended editions, and your grading is just the perfect mix of both worlds!
@Meteotrance
@Meteotrance Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how a simple color grade change the mood of a scene.
@mattpburgess
@mattpburgess 24 күн бұрын
I'm so pleased I don't notice the green overtones at all when i watch the actual film.
@LifeOutward
@LifeOutward 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad someone is on my side with the color grading! I was beginning work on a video talking about it soon, especially with the 4k transfers of the film being released. The extended editions were mostly easy to ignore but some of the 4k grading, Jackson has said recently, was to make the LOTR films look more like The Hobbit films, so that they look like they were all shot at the same time. I'm sorry, what!?
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy Жыл бұрын
It's getting into George Lucas territory of tampering...
@BabyELF24
@BabyELF24 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited to see this. Bravo!
@MrMarsFargo
@MrMarsFargo Жыл бұрын
Other important thing to point out, the "theatrical grade" blu-ray isn't actually the colors seen in theaters. Even the theatrical Blu-Rays alter the original grading, just not quite as significantly as the Extended Blu-Rays. So the first DVDs and 4Ks, being partially scanned from the original negative in the latter instance, are ironically the closest to theatrically accurate colors.
@leont7956
@leont7956 Жыл бұрын
source on this?
@stuffthings9618
@stuffthings9618 Жыл бұрын
THE REMASTERED 15 DISC BLU RAY EDITION FIXES THIS HOLY SHIT IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR A HD ORIGINAL GRADING OF THESE MOVIES
@manuelbau4528
@manuelbau4528 Жыл бұрын
You mean this one? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5qCfayBxp_cYqM.html
@Christian-bu1xc
@Christian-bu1xc 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I love the Bilbo edit at the end 💙
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
I was delightful to be able to fit that in there :D
@user-bw8xo5nt9e
@user-bw8xo5nt9e 15 күн бұрын
I always wonder how that aletrnative edit would look, and now I know. Good work.
@charlessimons2851
@charlessimons2851 3 жыл бұрын
ooh snaps I'm excited
@thomas5
@thomas5 3 жыл бұрын
That scene swap of The Hobbit Bilbo was a great touch
@Flagz69
@Flagz69 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed no, it was as bad as George Lucas adding Hayden Christensen at the end of the return of the jedi.
@thomas5
@thomas5 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flagz69 You are right to liken it to that since it is the same concept of linking two trilogies together. Both cases it is done excellently
@Orko1983
@Orko1983 4 ай бұрын
That scene switch is how you do a special edition properly, Mr. Lucas.
@thomas5
@thomas5 4 ай бұрын
@@Orko1983 Theres nothing wrong with Star Wars special editions, they are better than the original cuts
@Orko1983
@Orko1983 4 ай бұрын
@thomas5 No there isn't. I actually prefer some of Lucas decisions. Like putting Palpatine in 5 was the right thing to do. I just didn't like that dinosaurs ass taking up the whole screen when they come into Mos Eisley and You can no longer see them and the No by Vader in Jedi now breaks the tension.
@sashachornyi2611
@sashachornyi2611 3 жыл бұрын
bravo! looks amazing!!!
@maudale
@maudale Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!! I love films where there is as much natural light as possible, what is the point in color grading some of these scenes and giving it this blueish/greenish wash??
@greatdelusion7654
@greatdelusion7654 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be able to pick and choose, scene by scene - maybe even shot by shot - my preferred color grading. Some scenes I prefer theatrical, others extended.
@illuvattar
@illuvattar Жыл бұрын
Any chance on an update to this video comparing the previous versions with the new 4k grade? It seems they did fix the blueish green tint from the extended blurays, but I'm not sure if they kept the improvements, such as the gandalf on orthanc sequence.
@Manco654
@Manco654 2 жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion on the colour grading of the 4K release? Seems to me like it reverted much of the greenish tint and now it’s looking much closer to the original release including great HDR/DV.
@chrisk9613
@chrisk9613 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, it doesn't look as film-like . . . There's definitely some DNR going on. Bloodsport 4K has a much more "accurate" transfer than some of these blockbuster movies get, unfortunately.
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 2 жыл бұрын
Curious to hear what you think about the new grade Jackson has done for the new release.
@ericrawlins8444
@ericrawlins8444 2 жыл бұрын
The Hartwell Grade is by far the superior of the two, sign me up! Just wish I could get it on disc....
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I would really like to see the final project/job!
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Just shoot me a message - email address in the description.
@funbrian1596
@funbrian1596 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell But your email doesn’t work
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 2 жыл бұрын
@@funbrian1596 Recheck and send again. I assure you it does!
@funbrian1596
@funbrian1596 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell thanks for telling me that I realize there is missing the @
@christinasirignano9217
@christinasirignano9217 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly approve!
@Aegi97
@Aegi97 3 жыл бұрын
Now that the 4k editions have come out with new color grading, would you be making an updated version with that as the base?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! _Some_ day :)
@JG-pj3bg
@JG-pj3bg 10 ай бұрын
I'll stick to my extended blu-ray's, it might not be perfect but neither is the 4K version, My setup consist of a 4K Mini LED TV that does HDR10 and Dolby Vision and a Oppo 4K player and a Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player which upscales better than my 4K player
@JXEditor
@JXEditor 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done this with either of the other two?
@RecreationalCarrot
@RecreationalCarrot 2 жыл бұрын
The other two didn't receive the same treatment, so there'd be no need
@StarWarsStory
@StarWarsStory Жыл бұрын
Please tell us you've applied this much love, care and dedication to the other 2 films?!
@EmoSew1
@EmoSew1 3 жыл бұрын
Any plans on grading the other two as well?
@irishmarine3
@irishmarine3 2 жыл бұрын
These are dope Chris - when you say Extended Ed Blu-rays, are you referring to the newest 4k edition release? Or the original Extended Edition release
@Jaze2022
@Jaze2022 3 жыл бұрын
Did this green tint happen to all blu ray extended versions? I just looked at my boxset version and don't notice the green tint at all. colours look great.
@SHVideografie
@SHVideografie Жыл бұрын
It seems like only FotR EE Blu Ray suffers from the green tint issue
@punkrockval
@punkrockval Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Will you share your thoughts on the new 4k release? I'm hoping the green tint will be improved
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
That would be fun! I've heard that the color grade has been redone, so here's hoping!
@ChristopherCopeland
@ChristopherCopeland 9 күн бұрын
I do not miss the theatrical grade at all. After I learned there was a difference, I rented the version with the theatrical grade because everyone talked about how much they hated how it changed in later versions, but honestly, the newer grade feels so much better to me. I love the tint and darkness of the newer versions. It adds a really appropriate mood to the story that I love. I think flatter, whiter grades are much more boring and a missed opportunity to add atmosphere.
@Sonnyfx
@Sonnyfx 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad someone noticed! The colour grading on the Netflix versions are absolutely awful too!
@user-hw4qx9ij4c
@user-hw4qx9ij4c 3 жыл бұрын
Chris, maybe it would have been best to wait for the upcoming UHD presentation and see it that will have a more pleasing colour grade?
@vastbubble
@vastbubble 7 ай бұрын
Would love the link :)
@Scrapluv
@Scrapluv 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think they'll fix the color grade for the upcoming 4k release?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I doubt it. It would just require too much of a financial investment, on the studio's end, for "too little" of a return. Hoping I'm wrong though!
@markkristensen93
@markkristensen93 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to report that, according to Bill Hunt from the Blu-ray industry news site thedigitalbits.com, Weta Digital wen't back and did a brand new color grade from the ground up when they were creating their new digital intermediates from all of the live action negatives and film printed VFX shots that they scanned in native 4K. Both Peter Jackson and the original colorist, Peter Doyle, has been involved in this process. Bill knows a bunch of the people working at Weta so lets hope he's right!
@balrog4779
@balrog4779 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, there is already an extended version with colors as on disk. originaltrilogy.com/topic/44rh1ns-The-Fellowship-of-the-Ring-Extended-Edition-Color-Restoration/id/61952
@pererau
@pererau 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad for you that you are up to 15.9k subscribers. I'm just kinda mad at the other 15.899k others for infringing on my territory. BACK THE HECK OFF, FOOLS! 😉
@thomashumphrey4953
@thomashumphrey4953 2 жыл бұрын
All three Lord of the rings films being released again with color corrections and bonus features and more on November 16th 2021!!
@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the green in the Shire, but for the rest of the movie it just looks worse.
@rovhalt6650
@rovhalt6650 3 жыл бұрын
But its a night time shot in the moon light. It's supposed to look a little bit blue.
@anondalorian3719
@anondalorian3719 Жыл бұрын
Now it’s fixed in the 4K
@yb6715
@yb6715 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this was amazing! How can we watch Hartwell version?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
Just shoot me an email - address in the description.
@charlessimons2851
@charlessimons2851 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I just gotta ask since we all know now that the 4K cuts are coming. Will you take your 1080p cuts of the Hobbit at LotR and do the same with the 4K release?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
You know it ;)
@charlessimons2851
@charlessimons2851 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Hartwell Ayyyy🎉🎉 I wonder how the color grade will turn out with the 4K cuts. My experience with 4K releases the colors are usually enhanced by hdr and other such things. Btw you heard me talking about a 4k release a month or so ago. Called it
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlessimons2851 Haha! You did indeed!
@bj0urne
@bj0urne 29 күн бұрын
In the theatrical edition without color grading, it just looks like it was shot on an iPhone
@LJ7000
@LJ7000 2 жыл бұрын
But what about the extended DVD edition, do they also have the same colour grading as the BR?
@zbigniew2628
@zbigniew2628 2 жыл бұрын
No
@hughmcgown
@hughmcgown 2 ай бұрын
@@zbigniew2628 thanks haha i totally just put an offer on an ebay boxset hoping this XD
@FilmFan-iv7sz
@FilmFan-iv7sz 2 жыл бұрын
Is this green tint only in first film or across all 3?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 2 жыл бұрын
Only in the first film. And only in its blu-ray extended edition release.
@darklord7289
@darklord7289 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, i was wondering if your Extended cut of the Hobbit films are finished.? and yeah, editing around the Lord of the Rings would in truth feel kinda wrong.
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
It is indeed! Just shoot me another email :)
@frankiegalindo980
@frankiegalindo980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell Is this a comparison between the Theatrical Edition Blu-ray and the Extended Edition Blu-ray?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankiegalindo980 Yes indeed!
@frankiegalindo980
@frankiegalindo980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell I thought so!
@frankiegalindo980
@frankiegalindo980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell Do you have a video comparison between the Extended Edition 1080p Blu-ray and the Extended Edition 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray?
@hupekyser
@hupekyser Ай бұрын
how much green would you like? yes
@SRVaintme
@SRVaintme 2 жыл бұрын
is this colour grading only on the blu-rays or do the extended edition dvds have it as well?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 2 жыл бұрын
Just the blu-rays
@SRVaintme
@SRVaintme 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell time to go hunting for my old boxset i guess
@annastayziaa
@annastayziaa 3 жыл бұрын
woooow👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@painfan476
@painfan476 3 жыл бұрын
do the other two need fixing as well?
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
No, sir :) Same color grade for both the theatrical and extended blu-rays.
@painfan476
@painfan476 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHartwell That's great, awesome work!
@sebastiannorthey
@sebastiannorthey 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Hartwell Grade is ridiculously better!!
@AaronLitz
@AaronLitz Ай бұрын
That part at the end with the addition of Frodo from the horrific _Hobbit_ movies _was_ a joke... right? Please?
@philipdove1705
@philipdove1705 3 жыл бұрын
I just want a crisp extended blue ray version
@tylerpifer5966
@tylerpifer5966 3 жыл бұрын
The password was not working for me.
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed it! Please, shoot me a second email and I'll send you the updated links :)
@GerardoGElizondo
@GerardoGElizondo 3 жыл бұрын
i love to see Martin Freeman in the lord of the rings! i hope i can se your edits!
@FlyingAce1016
@FlyingAce1016 3 жыл бұрын
Is the "extended grade" present on the DVD extended edition or only the new blu ray?
@M4Studios
@M4Studios 3 жыл бұрын
only blu ray
@joshuapeter4254
@joshuapeter4254 3 жыл бұрын
But if you're editing the films, why not put the Prologue at the beginning of the Hobbit where it really belongs?
@rubenthehuman
@rubenthehuman 3 ай бұрын
I think I prefer the theatrical color grading over the extended one on almost every scene.
@trialanderror9004
@trialanderror9004 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, I need my hard drive space back! lol
@Danthehorse
@Danthehorse Жыл бұрын
I loathe regrading that they seem obsessed to do on so many movies these days. I have gone back to the theatrical bluray. Thank goodness the recent star wars 4k remasters have corrected the awful special editions blue/crimson dominance with the cold pink flesh tones, back to a much more natural palette. I just wish they would leave the movies alone and just do the best transfers they can.
@herrderringe86
@herrderringe86 6 ай бұрын
So have you seen the 4K masters, color changes have been done there, so I think it looks better now, at least what I saw from some reviews. But the movie grain was removed by a filter which makes them look less sharp and removes the movie's atmosphere. Can you fix that?
@ScottSullivanTV
@ScottSullivanTV Жыл бұрын
No more weird tint in the 4K versions. The 4K Extended Editions is the only way to watch the trilogy.
@zelbarnap
@zelbarnap 2 ай бұрын
they have changed a lot in the 4k. the whites are blown out and detail is actually lost in some parts.
@thepiecesfit5049
@thepiecesfit5049 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they fixed this in the UHD 4k re-release. Otherwise I'm not buying it.
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that _they have_ fixed it! :D
@albertpuppymaster671
@albertpuppymaster671 9 күн бұрын
When you separate skin tone from overall color of the scene it looks odd and fishy.
@comicbookjerk
@comicbookjerk 2 жыл бұрын
4k color grade woot
@jamesmack8357
@jamesmack8357 2 жыл бұрын
I sent an email request for your Hobbit extended editions
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 2 жыл бұрын
it’s a great improvement and done by peter Jackson and same that was done to the international cut of the shining and great upgrade and stunning in 4K love the great lord of the rings franchise movies
@TheHandsomeman
@TheHandsomeman 2 жыл бұрын
They rave about DOLBY VISION, BUT IT ORANGES THINGS UP
@just_ethanj02
@just_ethanj02 Ай бұрын
I would be upset if they replaced the scene where Bilbo finds the ring. I prefer the original version so much more because its creepy. It's dark, grey, Bilbo looks more how I imagined him in the book, and Gollum's screams sound more disturbing. Gollum in Fellowship I'd argue is creepier and less cute than his design in TwoTowers/ROTK/Hobbit. Just my opinion.
@thestooge200
@thestooge200 Жыл бұрын
Can you do one with Blade runner and give the final cut the directors cut colors?
@SamSaxtonArt
@SamSaxtonArt 3 жыл бұрын
1:07 I like Gandalf's face being washed out though. It makes him feel powerless, which helps the scene.
@MyHarmonicSystem
@MyHarmonicSystem 3 жыл бұрын
Its great, but I just feel that the addition of the Hobbit part its too much.
@Boebaboeba_Productions
@Boebaboeba_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, always more Ian Holm!
@sergesolkatt
@sergesolkatt 2 жыл бұрын
HARDCORE
@orlandoaton
@orlandoaton 2 жыл бұрын
Loved what you did at the end. It’s more appropriate. Hope Peter Jackson would consider haha
@tsuruya-sonozaki
@tsuruya-sonozaki 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh what have they done At least they made it easy to just chroma-key everything back to the original
@JasonSturgess
@JasonSturgess 2 жыл бұрын
Rally not a fan of these colours they are way over saturated in places !
@Ligma_Shlong
@Ligma_Shlong Жыл бұрын
Color grading in modern hollywood just straight up ruined cinema. Why they want to put an unnatural hue over every scene is beyond me
@CostasCh
@CostasCh 2 жыл бұрын
It is look like they just drop in hurry a green filter all over the film that it doesn't excuse the improvements made for a few scenes in the film and completely screw all the others. At least they didn't screw the other two extended editions films in such horrible way.
@just_delightful
@just_delightful 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't even watch the extended version of fellowship, it is terrible
@thewatcher8573
@thewatcher8573 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they got Jackson's approval, but is it really necessary to do this, I'd rather they just leave it the way it was, you remember it a that way as well and you nostalgia is built on that look. I'm fine with a certain amount of remastering or cleaning up but things age and flaws show, it's fine let them. I prefer seeing older films that have scratches and film moving around over the static flat clean look of over doing it today.
@Prodrummer1603
@Prodrummer1603 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched the regraded "Fellowship of the Rings". I didn't watch every Scene but skipped throuh all chapters to get a general sense. I'm really impressed. Looks far better that the original Version. There is still one Problem but i think it's more a Problem with how the First movie was graded. It feels a little Bit inconsistent with skin tones. In some scenes they are orange, in others natural and in a few scenes quiet muted. And it has nothing to do with overall color vibes which are used to get a certain atmosphere. The Two Towers and Return of the King feel more consistent. Picture quality otherwise (sharpness and details) are top notch. Why can't we have a theatrical cut which looks as good ? The original bluray is a blurry DNR-mess
@ozgurak1840
@ozgurak1840 6 ай бұрын
An absolute crime. All those were involved should be held accountable, including Peter!
@oscarstainton
@oscarstainton 6 ай бұрын
Well, one of those people who could have been queried about this questionable choice, Andrew Lesnie, hasn’t been with us for almost nine years.
@thomashumphrey4953
@thomashumphrey4953 2 жыл бұрын
You can adjust the color on your TV set duh
@ChrisHartwell
@ChrisHartwell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very gracious and encouraging comment, Thomas... ...unfortunately, like I explained in the video, the _whole_ film is not _uniformly_ "green tinted". And I personally don't want to be getting up every other scene to adjust my TV set.
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