The Fender Tone Master Pro Totally Overshadowed THIS! FR-12 & FR-10

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The Fender Tone Master FR-12 & FR-10 powered speakers are the COOLEST things ‪@fender‬ has released this year, in my opinion. These cabinets would work great with any Line 6 Helix, Fractal Axe FX, Quad Cortex, or other modeler or DI guitar rig. The Tone Master Pro modeler has totally overshadowed these insanely cool cabs, but we're fixing that today.
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@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

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@brianlebrun2382 8 ай бұрын

I've had the FR12 for a little more than 2 weeks. I've done 2 band rehearsals (5 piece band) and 6 gigs. It looks like an amp so I treat it as one facing it to the audience. It actually sounds like an amp because there's a certain amount of thump I always look for in an amp and this has it. I own a Headrush FRFR112 and a Line 6 Powercab 112 and this thing blows them both away. Just the fact of having active tone controls on the top means no more having to dive into menus to tweak my onstage sound which will change my sound coming from the FOH. I'm in 2 duos, 2 trios and a full band and my helix has never sounded so good. My backup rig is a Strymon Iridium with a TC Electronics Nova System processor. It's a back up because the Strymon doesn't have the guts like a Helix. It does now. Both rigs sound great.

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

This is exactly the kind of thing I had in mind. Super happy to hear that my assumptions are right on with these! Rigs sound like they are awesome, even that back up with the Strymon.

@garysalgado9709 6 ай бұрын

do you use the 10 or 12 inch fr?

@brianlebrun2382 6 ай бұрын

@@garysalgado9709 I got the 12". Just my opinion, but if you plan on doing what I do, which is using it as a traditional amp then I think the 12 is the way to go.

@Bob1Gee 16 күн бұрын

I’ve been eyeing up one of these since I got my Tonex pedal, and I think you just may have convinced me to get one. I’m at the point where I no longer desire to hump my heavy Bassman amp around (hence the Tonex purchase) and I’d much rather take one of these at half the weight. I would go direct, but the other guitarist in the band that I usually sit in with has no intention of ever going direct, so that wouldn’t really work. As you said, this is a great solution. Thanks 👍🏻

@TomButwin 14 күн бұрын

Right on! Check out my affiliate links if you pick one up.

@msi1985 8 ай бұрын

I'm loving this unit! Had it for a week and I can't stop testing new patches thru the tmp and the fr12 combo made in heaven 🙌

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

Are you having any issues with hiss? I keep seeing comments about that.

@msi1985 8 ай бұрын

@TomButwin yeah there is a hiss that is caused by the EQ stack. It is most prominently hissing from the 1-inch driver. It hasn't bothered me at all, even at the bedroom level, and it doesn't seem to get louder when the amps cranked. I run the high cut switch between 10 and 11 o'clock and barely hear it.

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

Can you bypass the onboard EQ to get rid of it or is it always engaged?

@msi1985 8 ай бұрын

@TomButwin always engaged unless you open the back panel and disconnect the Eq for the entire tone stack. 🙄 at least direct recording from the tone master along with XLR out from the Fender fr12 doesn't have the hiss. So sending signals to front of house is noiseless

@BlackPenquinn Ай бұрын

Bought one with my TMP. Works great. The TMP is a game changer for me. Ive been using computers 8 hours a day since the 90’s and when I’m playing music with a plank of wood and some strings, I don’t want to play “computer”. I want my amp interface and instrument interface to be on the same wave length, and this combo does that for me.

@eguitarplayer6689 5 ай бұрын

I like that it has a tweeter. I will be looking for other amplifier makers to copy this type of configuration.🔊

@TomButwin 5 ай бұрын

Full range! Curious to see others take too.

@eddietherogue 7 ай бұрын

When I got the FR-12 I thought about returning it because of that low hiss many people is reporting, but after a few days of use I've found out I don't even notice it anymore. There is a way to eliminate the hiss by upgrading a few chips on the preamp board. It's like a $50 solution if you know how to do that stuff, but most people won't have that skill.

@eddietherogue 7 ай бұрын

There is some very smart people out there who knows this stuff. The amps sounds great otherwise but I have not compared it with the alternatives.

@DestinMcWhorter 7 ай бұрын

So I'm supposed to spend $550 for something that requires physical modifications and another $50 spent on it in order to eliminate a hiss that everyone across the internet is complaining about? Why do folks let Fender get away with this? I will wait until they fix it AND come down in price, as for now I find it insulting to charge this much and QC allow that out the door. I suggest folks seriously considering this unit do more research as there are armies of unpleased customers that have returned it as a result.

@kmichaelp4508 7 ай бұрын

I’m in agreement with the previous comment. Why doesn’t Fender get their act together and fix this? This isn’t good on them.

@eddietherogue 7 ай бұрын

I've thought of returning the amp and wait for a Fender fix but I'd have to buy an alternative to use with my Stomp and I don't feel like trying out alternatives. As I've said, I barely notice the hiss anymore. I've shown the amp around and nobody else notices it either unless I point it out, even if its certainly there. I understand everyone who wants to hold Fender to a higher standard, as we should, but this might not be a bad alternative for the price, hiss and all.

@muzicman1952 8 күн бұрын

Is there ANY kind of volume control for the XLR out on these?

@bonneymaes2757 7 ай бұрын

I would like a Vox ‘Tonemaster’ or a Tweed ‘Tonemaster’ As my current lineup is an AC30 and a Bassman…I’m getting old and so is my back. Please test the Universal Audio Ruby, Woodrow pedals with the FR12 cab. I would be really interested if it would give you that Tonemaster amp quality but with a tweed or Vox tone.

@jokermtb 8 ай бұрын

Jet City Amplification came out with something like this 10 years ago, and it was designed as a stage monitor too, where it was wedge shaped and aimed the 10" at your face......wish I woulda got one....

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

Right on. That would have been cool. Do they still make them?

@rams2702 5 ай бұрын

is it able to be just loud or really, and i mean really loud?

@Andrew-wb2zq 8 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I keep looking up reviews for these things but only getting Tone Master Pro results. Yeah it's a modeler, whatever. How do you get your modeler to convincingly sound good outside of headphones? That's where these come in.

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

YES! Exactly.

@gibson2623 8 ай бұрын

Strange that no one is mentioning the HISS they produce

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

I keep hearing about this hiss! What's up with it? Maybe I need to get one and check it out in person.

@sethcenterbar 8 ай бұрын

I have two of these. The hiss is annoying BUT if you turn presence to noon it goes away. It's a presence CUT so you'd think you could leave it off and have no noise but idk.

@chipshenkan7303 2 ай бұрын

I heard it's been fixed but Fender also never acknowledged the problem. Can anyone confirm this?

@akaboo69 3 ай бұрын

Been looking at this and the laney fr. Not sure which route to go

@TomButwin 3 ай бұрын

Oof, that's a tough call. In theory, if there are no issues (hissing, I've heard) with the Fender that'd be my choice for both looks and the I/O available. Laney would be great too, though. Probably doesn't help much lol

@ThatWhatIsNot 8 ай бұрын

Eager to get the FR-12 to go with my UAFX amp pedals. But…still concerned with reports of hiss that make (some) units rather noisy for home use.

@sgmarshall3 8 ай бұрын

That’s the only reason that I haven’t pulled the trigger on that purchase

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

Hiss specifically from the Cab?

@ThatWhatIsNot 8 ай бұрын

Yes, at least that’s what I’ve read on several forums. Strangely, reports vary such that some folks claim their cab has no issues, some say it has a mild hiss, while still others say the hiss is bad. Whether this is all just in the eye of the beholder rather than actual differences across units, who knows.

@ThatWhatIsNot 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately haven’t been able to find one of these local yet to check out the alleged hiss for myself.

@anthonyanderson9420 8 ай бұрын

@@ThatWhatIsNotI’ve had the FR-12 for 3 weeks. Yes there is hiss but not noticeable when playing. Only if I am close to it and in a silent room. Doesn’t bother me. FYI the hiss is present even with volume off. But does NOT get louder with increase of the volume knob.

@nuzowi 5 ай бұрын

Wondering when the an XLR is connected to the output jack at the back, will it mute the speaker?

@TomButwin 5 ай бұрын

Good question. I'm not sure, but my impression is that it's just an XLR thru.

@swardmusic 2 ай бұрын

No. What would be the point in that??

@thomasmoore3822 2 ай бұрын

I am looking for something exactly what you said so i can use my pod go live. I can’t hear it with the in ears very well. Would a aviator cub work as well and give me an amp? You said some use a katana for onstage vol. So i am thinking a aviator cub with the effect loop would work. Any thoughts? Im intrigued with the quilter. So which one a fr12 or cub. I do prefer to use an amp live and been using an ac10. So im really serious about the cub.

@TomButwin 2 ай бұрын

So, here are my thoughts: If you're using the Pod Go for amp modeling, I think the Katana, Line 6 Catalyst, or FR12 is the way to go. They have dedicated power amp ins to just reproduce your modeled/direct signal. If you're interested in using the Pod Go for just effects and not amp modeling, then I think the Aviator Cub is the way to go because the built in amp models are amazing, you get stage volume, and then can send the direct line to a DI for the PA.

@Mourninghorse 4 ай бұрын

I Hope a Stereo version will be release ! a lot of modelers and Profilers have stereo outs !

@TomButwin 4 ай бұрын

That’d be cool! Would require a bigger cab for two speakers, but could be fun still.

@TheIvoman 3 ай бұрын

that's why I have two.... big sound!

@efnbrg 3 ай бұрын

We need two small amps for this. Something the size and power of the mustang lt25 with no modelling on board

@marcjshur Ай бұрын

Curious if it’s loud enough to play small stage gigs in a 5 piece band without micing.

@TomButwin Ай бұрын

I haven't played one, but based on similar cabs that I've played, I'd say yes...as long as the other band members aren't going crazy with volume and it's indoors. The other thing I'd say about that is, if you're using this in conjunction with a floor modeler (As it's intended), you can always go direct into the PA, in addition to using the cab for stage volume.

@SotoPhotoDir 4 ай бұрын

Can you use this with the Kemper Stage?

@TomButwin 4 ай бұрын

I think you'd get good results with pretty much any floor modeler unit.

@abdabtele 5 ай бұрын

Are these as quiet as the Boss Katana mkii?

@TomButwin 5 ай бұрын

What do you mean by “quiet”? Like, noise floor or overall volume/output?

@npdzster 3 ай бұрын

I use it With my real amp and my ox. Nobody talk about this option to use it

@TomButwin 3 ай бұрын

Good idea. Are you running just an amp head? Not a combo

@STF_YVR 8 ай бұрын

Not much info about the speaker inside that thing ?

@TomButwin 8 ай бұрын

There's not, but I'd think of it more like a PA system. You don't want "color" or really anything of note. It's meant to reproduce the speaker emulation/cab emulation, obviously. There's a 1" compression driver and the 10" or 12" speaker, so it's definitely not a typical Fender combo amp cab.

@luckyspook8407 7 ай бұрын

Nice piece of gear, but hiss issue brothers me. Not buying until it is solved.

@TomButwin 7 ай бұрын

I keep hearing about this hiss!

@smithersjones7541 6 ай бұрын

I’ve got one, don’t hear a hiss. It’s great.

@TomButwin 6 ай бұрын

@smithersjones7541 good to know!

@bluesman815 4 ай бұрын

I've had my FR-10 for a couple months. Honestly, I had no idea about any hiss until reading posts online. I just play at home these days in my spare room. I sit with it facing me maybe 5 ft away and I don't hear a hiss. I've been playing 40+ yrs mostly through tube amps. Maybe my hearing is shot and I can't hear the hiss. Lol My tone master pro and Iridium both sound amazing through it. We live in amazing times with this technology.

@Mesa97006 17 күн бұрын

There are 2 fixes on the Fractal forum.

@DestinMcWhorter 7 ай бұрын

@TomButwin 7 ай бұрын

I have to agree. No reason anyone should have to accept any kind of a noticeable hiss on a new powered speaker. Hopefully they get it worked out. I still think this has the potential to be a great piece of gear if they do.

@pigpenclymer6098 7 ай бұрын

Weird video. I kept waiting for him to play it. What a waste of 5 minutes

@TomButwin 7 ай бұрын

How would I demonstrate a flat response speaker cabinet properly in a KZfaq video? It’s just supposed to take your modeled guitar sound and make it louder…without coloring the tone. Honestly asking.