The Fifth Doctor and the Cybermen

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SabbathaBlood

14 жыл бұрын

Emotions are what makes life worth living...

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@Aileil 12 жыл бұрын

The First Doctor said to Ian that the greatest discoveries were sometimes made by looking at the littlest things. The second doctor says he left the Time Lords so that he could explore the wonders of the universe and be involved with the various peoples. The Third Doctor remarked that the shortest distance between two point may indeed be a straight line but that wasn't the most interesting. The Fourth Doctor got very exited once and shouted "Look! Rocks!". And now The Fifth Doctor carries it on.

@sinclairchap 12 жыл бұрын

I can hear emotion in that bastard's voice.

@derke123 11 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? These ones didn't even face me as a kid. The current ones are terrifying.

@swordseye2 12 жыл бұрын

That is definitely not a weakness. It's strength, courage and determination. That's what keeps us going and imagine how dull life would be without fear and happiness.

@NevillesGran1 11 жыл бұрын

Is "smugness" an emotion? Because that cyberman definitely has it.

@jazzcat412 2 жыл бұрын

They didn't want to admit it lol

@minicle426 Жыл бұрын

Smug Mode.

@StylishWrestling 11 жыл бұрын

Haha, I always thought that when watching Revenge of the Cybermen & Earthshock, the cybermen in those stories show intrigue, arrogance and smugness. The line at 0:34 is so good - "These things are IRRELEVANT."

@VlogsWLawson 11 жыл бұрын

I always assumed the cybermen just had heavily repressed empotions to the point where complete failure and defeat would anger them very slightly rather than feeling no anger at all. But thats just my idea.

@Ducksdoesstuff 13 жыл бұрын

"They also enhance life. When did you last have the pleasure of smelling a flower? Watching a sunset? Eating a well-prepared meal?" Could you imagine the cybermen sitting down to dinner?

@artifex2.080 3 жыл бұрын

9 years too late but that would be kinda cruel, pretty sure their face is fucked up

@vivalapsych 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard this line from Peter's Doctor being criticized as trite. I just can’t understand that. I think it’s one of the more beautiful and powerful lines in the whole series. It sums up The Doctor's romanticism succinctly.

@enclavehere.7995 2 жыл бұрын

Well the Cyber Leader would eventually settle down kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g792rJhex6zMqHk.html

@rexrex118 12 жыл бұрын

YES U SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT, BRING BACK THE 1980'S CYBERMEN

@NinaBethany24 11 жыл бұрын

I met Peter Davison today :D ahh

@Agui007 12 жыл бұрын

For those who don't know, the designer of these Cybermen costumes was Dinah Collins who also worked on the BBC series of Pride and Prejudice.Just a little info for you :)

@tardiselliot 12 жыл бұрын

the Cybermen at their best

@SuperLaney81 12 жыл бұрын

My God, they need these Cybermen back! Current ones are shite!

@SuperLaney81 2 жыл бұрын

Right now

@SuperLaney81 2 жыл бұрын

I replied to my own comment 9 years later 😀😀😀

@arniebunny 11 жыл бұрын

The Cybermen were really good back then - I was a kid watching Earthshock and at the time thought this was the best thing I'd ever seen. Neil Gaiman tried recently to recreate this but sadly failed.

@lobsnyrk 12 жыл бұрын

David Banks , the most badassest actor to have ever played a cyborg. We need this design back.Or Lee Sullivan's Mark 8. They had emotions. The still were Mondasians deep inside. They just didn't show them . In my opinion they were good guys , fearing the extinction of their race and thus avoiding potential threats by destroying them. I support them. Because if you think a, we are in the same situation , only a bit luckier.

@jazzcat412 2 жыл бұрын

David was the best Cyberman ever

@EternalEmperorofZakuul Жыл бұрын

Excellent

@MsDoctorWhoFan1 11 жыл бұрын

Fifth Doctor- One of my favorite Doctor's. First episode I watched was Unearthy Child with William Hartnell, but I watched the fifth Doctor's run after that. I know Tom Baker is considered the best Doctor, but to me every actor was the best Doctor in their own right. Some I happen to like more than others. I haven't seen any of the 2nd doctor, but I know I like 6 the least out of all the Doctors so far. 11 is my 2nd favorite following, 8.

@Tomfoolery1972 Жыл бұрын

6 is an acquired taste. With enough viewings he grows on you. It helps if oyu like that Era of stories which I definitely do

@Shanethefilmmaker 11 жыл бұрын

Actually come to think of it it's pretty logical about both of them. In the original the Cybermen showed that they had at least some emotion. But after centuries of fighting the Doctor they lost their true selves and became the machines they sought out to be.

@HiveFleetOni 2 жыл бұрын

This video is EXCELLENT

@NickKano11 12 жыл бұрын

Earthshock is probably the strongest Cyberman story they made.

@dickiegreenleaf750 2 жыл бұрын

Top 5 stories from the classic series. Brilliant

@TheValeyard92 11 жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes it is. I don't know why anyone would say it isn't... but it is.

@1loversinjapan 13 жыл бұрын

That's what a true friend does save their life

@lauravturner 11 жыл бұрын

Excellent Idea... Excellent.

@DarknessAlchemist00 11 жыл бұрын

Actually, there are two different types of Cybermen in the New Who. One type was manufactured in a parallel universe, and the other came from a far away galaxy.

@AllThingsAlex 12 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more..new ones look like toys..and dont get me started on Moffats Daleks :(

@borgduck 13 жыл бұрын

The Doctor loses the moral highground to a Cyberman!

@y2k890 11 жыл бұрын

For those of you wondering the episode this comes from is "Earthshock"

@xanderman1201 11 жыл бұрын

They should have an episode of old cybermen versus the new ones.

@derke123 11 жыл бұрын

I actually love the new Cybermen. They terrify me!

@Anglomachian 11 жыл бұрын

Just be glad it wasn't the celery. I could never understand how that ever lasted the episode. Om nom nom

@grimdork6017 11 жыл бұрын

not saying these are better. i just prefer these over the old ones. just because i mock the old ones does not mean i completely love and will defend the newer ones.

@videogamenostalgia 12 жыл бұрын

They need to combine the current Cybermen design with the 80s Cybermen attitude.

@ThePa1riot 12 жыл бұрын

Man he even SOUNDS like Ten!

@apl175 Жыл бұрын

0:33 Ahh yes the Doctor referencing a Cybermen's domestic life.

@CryptidValentine 12 жыл бұрын

I really find the Cybermen fascinating. Though, I am still really scared of them from watching 'Cyberwoman'. It's been given so much darker themes, especially the ones seen in Torchwood.

@KaskDaxxe 11 жыл бұрын

We would have motivation to do the essentials, and that's what the cybermen are about.

@girlgarde 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah. These ones are superior to the Cybus made Cybermen, they should bring the earlier ones back (upgraded of course) but with the high tech and mindset that made them as worthy foes for the Doctor as the Daleks were.

@ArkhamScarecrowBlogs 13 жыл бұрын

@rojblake82 admittedly the black and white stories have much more all rounded & better writing...in both story terms and in entertainment, but this episode for me is the pinnacle of the emotionless cybermen; and has some of the best moments in the classic series...i.e the sacrifice of Adric, which is superb.

@QuarrellaDeVil 2 жыл бұрын

Compare with "Emotions. Love. Pride. Hate. Fear. Have you no emotions, sir?"

@terawattz 12 жыл бұрын

the best cybermen the mondasians

@MrThegamemasterlord 3 жыл бұрын

at the stage they sound like darth vader

@girlgarde 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he does, doesn't he? The Cybermen may be able to surpress most of their emotions but they sometimes slip through in extreme situations whether it's in having their plans foiled or in one where they wish to prove a point like here.

@badhead 11 жыл бұрын

you should watch Enlightment and Frontios. They bith have great in your face moments for the 5th doctor

@pyroqwerty 11 жыл бұрын

The cyberman sounds a bit like Bane,

@POTATER1228 11 жыл бұрын

too bad people need emotions as motivation to even get up in the morning

@KaskDaxxe 11 жыл бұрын

Well put. A very good point.

@coyran 11 жыл бұрын

The 'Cybusmen' wouldn't last ten seconds!

@MithranArkanere 11 жыл бұрын

They just synchronized under the same controller, they were compatible.

@grimdork6017 11 жыл бұрын

yes, it makes me an idiot for not liking an older version of a thing. plus, i am saying the old ones aren't scary because they wear shiny jumpsuits and move like humans. but whatever, its opinion.

@Rockin0verTheW0rld 11 жыл бұрын

I believe in this case it is "Smug gittiness"

@DomWeasel 11 жыл бұрын

What's scary about the clunky, 90's talking printer versions we have now?

@KaskDaxxe 11 жыл бұрын

We wouldnt have to sleep if we were robots.

@MrCybershade 12 жыл бұрын

@o13starsnstripes Too late- they've done it already lol strange how so many seem to way prefer the 'Mondas' version. I think they're both really similar: slight design and voice changes, yes, but other than that? Hmmm...

@naruto199797 Жыл бұрын

Depending on the incarnation of you kill one of his friends you'll pay the price

@Tomfoolery1972 Жыл бұрын

The Doctor at 1:25 : *Shit.*

@DoomWithFries 11 жыл бұрын

These ones moved around too organically for my taste, while the new ones seem more mechanical. However, I prefer the overall design of these Cybermen to the Cybus ones. They get across the assimilated, robotic nature while still showing a brief glimpse of the person's former humanity,

@POTATER1228 11 жыл бұрын

that's just an example. without emotion, there would not be any motivation to do... well just about ANYTHING

@alucat11 11 жыл бұрын

Thars sounds like one cocky cyberman...

@grimdork6017 11 жыл бұрын

yes, lets make them wear shiny jumpsuits and make them look human removing the fear factor completely. not saying these guys are bad though.

@JPG1140 12 жыл бұрын

Am a the only one who can see the persons mouth moving on the cyberman does that mean there half human u can clearly see a persons mouth there

@dreadcthulhu5 12 жыл бұрын

@thatwhichisgiven Or two. And yeah that's what I loved about him.

@AubreySciFi 11 жыл бұрын

This vsn had a moving silver jaw behind their faceplate. An echo of their former humanoid selves, like the human hands of the 1st gen.Cybermen. The original Cybermen were always Cyborgs. Part human/part machine. They still had the core of the humanoid body, but all the organs had been replaced by machine parts, & their brains were augmented. That's what I didn't like about the Cybusmen in the new series.Their conversion just threw away the entire human body & transplated the brain to a robot.

@IWouldLikeToPlayGame 12 жыл бұрын

@blaedvanderwoodsen "Muffled Bricklayers" :D

@MrCybershade 12 жыл бұрын

@o13starsnstripes 'cept in Dr Who Live where the cybermen wiped out the daleks using special guns. Question though: why r u ok with daleks if not cybes?

@ChromeToasterInc 12 жыл бұрын

The Fifth Doctor was a really fun and interesting character, but i always felt that somehow he was... afraid of his opposition at times, he didn't get in their face and give the viewer this sense of "Oh, crap, you just pissed him off, you're screwed." But, I've only seen the Caves of Andronazi and Castrovalva (Which was definitely better), so please correct me if you can.

@lordxeras 11 жыл бұрын

my god, if I see another fucking comment on which cybermen are better..... could I remind those present that the cybermen from the original series and the cybermen from the current one have DIFFERENT ORIGINS. Accept them as different cybermen, like you accept different Doctors. Now that that's out of the way, the newer ones are far better aesthetically, more imposing and terrifying(honestly the old ones made me laugh as a kid). The older ones had better dialogue and maybe were a bit smarter

@darvon906 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but cybermen have all the most common human emotions. Arrogance , smugness, determination . Fantasising constantly about power.

@kittykatBflat 12 жыл бұрын

Bad ass mother fuckers

@MrCybershade 12 жыл бұрын

@o13starsnstripes Well, yes it is a bit unethical what they do lol but I love them for what they are- brilliant monsters! I couldn't bring myself to hate such a brilliant foe. The Dr who universe would be poorer for their absence...So, sorry mate, i'm a fan!

@TheKHUE 12 жыл бұрын

I think they should look like the new ones and sound like the old ones. The new ones sound SO annoying

@lukepeskett2523 11 жыл бұрын

its talking about classic only

@POTATER1228 11 жыл бұрын

"to do essentials" That's just it. Motivation is emotion based. Zero emotion means you don't give a damn about really anything, and wouldyou'd be pretty much be motionless. NOTHING is categorized as "essential" if you don't have emotion to sort that out. Psychology 101. The cybermen creed is a logical fallacy. Hell they're more stoic than emotionless

@MasterKyleson 11 жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair, those Cybermen were from an alternate universe - I've heard that the main-universe Cybermen will be making an appearance soon, and that said episode would be written by Neil Gaiman

@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 2 жыл бұрын

Who butchered them.

@victorhernandez8723 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but hate is a negative emotion.

@Ducksdoesstuff 13 жыл бұрын

@rojblake82 if only, if only!!!!

@awesomelyizzy 12 жыл бұрын

I actually find the new ones scarier?? I think I'm quite alone on that though... xx

@EzraYalanBenjamin Жыл бұрын

I get that there are points to be made about emotions and friendship- but what in the hell was he thinking here, trying to talk a Cyberman into appreciating emotions? And the shock on his face when Tegan is threatened, as if it isn’t an obvious move for the Cybermen to make? I really don’t get what the writers were thinking with Five. He had some great stories- but at times it’s as if he’s forgotten all his years of experience. It’s understandable the First Doctor being perplexed and affronted by the lack of emotion when he encounters them for the first time… but what in the hell is Five thinking here? Has he forgotten everything? As if this approach was some kind of valid strategy in the face of emotionless cyborgs…

@DomWeasel Жыл бұрын

Four reasoned he didn't have the right to destroy the Daleks when they exist solely to destroy. Ten would offer Dalek Caan 'compassion' despite him having just committed genocide. If the Doctor began using the logic of their years, there wouldn't be a story to tell. They would just kill every hostile force in their path.

@EzraYalanBenjamin Жыл бұрын

@@DomWeasel I suppose that’s true. I have to say I’d like to see him use that logic sometimes though. There’s some stories I’m just thinking- what the hell are you doing? Get on with it! Lol.

@DomWeasel Жыл бұрын

@@EzraYalanBenjamin The show has been around so long that you do often find yourself thinking 'You faced this before and tried to find a peaceful solution; how did that work out? Everyone died didn't they?' That is the main issue with the character. They can't really develop. They have different quirks per regeneration but they can never really progress. They always have to be the same optimistic hero rather than a cynic jaded by centuries of experience.

@EzraYalanBenjamin Жыл бұрын

@@DomWeasel aye. I suppose it wasn’t too bad during the classic series because- a couple of hints to the contrary aside- it’s obvious that he’s just another Time Lord renegade and most other Time Lords see him as having great potential but being rather foolish and a bit of an underachiever. With the revived series, they started having people see him as a “lonely God” and even his own people seem to regard him with awe (or fear) sometimes. So, you tend to expect more only to find out he’s the same optimistic fool he always has been. Only Twelve for some of his first season and occasionally Eleven seem to break that mold, but it never lasts because “character development” always undoes that evolution and returns him back to being an idiot. It’s one of the big flaws of the show that everybody else seems to love.

@DomWeasel Жыл бұрын

@@EzraYalanBenjamin Don't even get me started on the New Series transformation of the Doctor from one extraordinary person in a big universe to space-wizard (complete with magic wand)/God amongst insects/most important living thing in the universe. It's why I stopped watching New Who. It began to feel more and more like bad fanfiction; which it is considering New Who is written primarily by fans of Classic Who like Mark Gatiss.

@KaskDaxxe 11 жыл бұрын

They moved around too much.

@MrCybershade 12 жыл бұрын

@o13starsnstripes Yeah but plan to wipe out every human being and creature other than themselves, from existence! Great villians but, y'know, not traditionally moral lol Still, you're entitled to your views I suppose...Though I do love cybermen. Oh dear, i love them. that's an emotion. they're not going to be best pleased about that...

@MrCybershade 12 жыл бұрын

@o13starsnstripes ??????????????????????????????

@almanacofsleep 11 жыл бұрын

Now Cybermen have been turned into the poor man's Borg. I prefer them much more here, humans who have replaced most of their organic matter with cybernetics, losing their humanity in the process.