The Fighter That Tried To Replace The Spitfire | Martin-Baker MB.5 [Aircraft Overview #82]

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Rex's Hangar

Rex's Hangar

Жыл бұрын

Today we're looking at the Martin-Baker MB.5. This was a powerful, advanced prototype fighter that was developed during the Second World War. Some often refer to it as the 'British Mustang'. Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, its development took too long to complete, and the type was never ordered into production.
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Rex - Aviation enthusiast for 25+ years, obsessive collector of books, compiler of research, and narrator.
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Sources:
Mason, F. K. (1992). The British Fighter since 1912. Putnam Aeronautical Books
Buttler, A. L. (2004). BRITISH SECRET PROJECTS - FIGHTERS & BOMBERS 1935-1950. Midland Publishing
RAF Fighters Part 2 by William Green and Gordon Swanborough (1979)
“The Martin-Baker M-B V” Flight (29 November 1945)

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@RexsHangar
@RexsHangar Жыл бұрын
F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
@LeopardIL2
@LeopardIL2 Жыл бұрын
Just keep sending with the same quality.
@JackManiacky
@JackManiacky Жыл бұрын
Another great vid from the Flying Tea-Rex. I'd love to see the Hughes H-1 Racer added to your list.
@radomircita9420
@radomircita9420 Жыл бұрын
Czechoslovak air force in 1938 and viability of Czechoslovak defence against German aggresion?
@mirthenary
@mirthenary Жыл бұрын
If you could, cover the Douglas XB-42/43
@migueldelacruz4799
@migueldelacruz4799 Жыл бұрын
I have a request! The very first plane (that I know of) given the F-15 designation. The Northrop F-15 Reporter. It was an under produced, and less remembered Korean war workhorse completely forgotten.
@andrewcomerford264
@andrewcomerford264 Жыл бұрын
Mr Martin was told that nothing could've saved his friend, so he set out to invent something that could've done. If an ejector seat doesn't have a Martin-Baker Label, it's copied from - or licensed by - them. Nobody can count how many lives Mr Martin has saved.
@mouser485
@mouser485 Жыл бұрын
I would think the military, who’s basically the only ones that use ejector seats, have a list of the number of ejections that have happened just like they know the number of accidents every military aircraft has been involved in. So, there’s a list out there of lives saved. Be interesting to know exactly how many it’s been. A lot I’m sure.
@andywuhu6720
@andywuhu6720 Жыл бұрын
@@mouser485 Martin Baker keeps a list on their site iirc, it's in the thousands currently and those who ejected can even buy exclusive merch from them.
@dylanmilne6683
@dylanmilne6683 Жыл бұрын
The number is 7,674 lives as of 2022
@dannycalley7777
@dannycalley7777 Жыл бұрын
@@dylanmilne6683 D.M. ..............thanks for that number !!!! .....was wondering
@mouser485
@mouser485 Жыл бұрын
@@dylanmilne6683 Thanks Dylan !
@GRAHAMAUS
@GRAHAMAUS Жыл бұрын
I found an original factory brochure for the MB5 among my stepfather's effects after he died; he'd sent for them from the company as a boy (it was in its original mailing envelope postmarked 1946). I passed them on to a friend who works for Martin-Baker today, and they found their way back into the company archives -- they had not retained a copy themselves, so it was new to them. So that's one small piece of history saved for posterity I guess!
@KoolDude100
@KoolDude100 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the brochure mentioned as I'm twenty years into research of the MB5 . probably have to ask for a visit to the head office one day.
@user-xq2zn8bu9q
@user-xq2zn8bu9q 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting & well done you.
@Dr_Jebus
@Dr_Jebus Жыл бұрын
If it's one thing this channel has taught me, it's how much of a role luck has to play in the success or failure of an aircraft.
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 Жыл бұрын
War is a fast moving entity - a small company like this could not adapt changes quick enough....sure luck is involved but production flexibility is far more important.
@ninjalanternshark1508
@ninjalanternshark1508 Жыл бұрын
Unless were talking about Brewster. No amount of luck could've offset their incompetence
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 Жыл бұрын
And in life in general!
@herbertshallcross9775
@herbertshallcross9775 Жыл бұрын
Fortune favors the bold .Dithering around, trying to perfect a "pretty good "aircraft, is a recipe for failure.
@electronwave4551
@electronwave4551 Жыл бұрын
In WWII air warfare, they had to make do with what was available, in the condition it was available. As simple instances, specs don't matter when pilots were dog-tired and barely able to keep themselves from dozing off; or when aircraft were overdue for maintenance, or certain pilots newbies, etc etc. The whole aim of the air battles was not to have an even-steven competition with the enemy, but to arrange for advantageous factors (time, weather, distance, fuel, etc) that were not reliant upon the airframes. The flight spec-wars we have today is abstract.
@someguy-qb2rs
@someguy-qb2rs Жыл бұрын
mustang x spitfire lore
@priyanshuraha
@priyanshuraha Жыл бұрын
A Spitstang 🤗
@AllonKirtchik
@AllonKirtchik Жыл бұрын
@@priyanshuraha A Mustfire?
@patchouliknowledge4455
@patchouliknowledge4455 Жыл бұрын
@@AllonKirtchik Story of Louis XIV?
@theoneandonlyartyom
@theoneandonlyartyom Жыл бұрын
they had an abortion sadly
@permadash
@permadash Жыл бұрын
@@AllonKirtchik Must...fire... I must fire
@JackManiacky
@JackManiacky Жыл бұрын
Dornier 335 just chillin in the background at 14:43
@Erik_Taurus
@Erik_Taurus 4 ай бұрын
Dornier 335 A-6 or B-12 since it's has two canopies. Most likely the A-6 since the B-12 was a trainer aircraft. What it lacked in beauty it perhaps made up in other areas.
@normansilver905
@normansilver905 Жыл бұрын
My uncle flew one while in the RAF. He told me it was one of the finest handling prop planes he flew. Smooth, responded well to controls and was very fast.
@bobsakamanos4469
@bobsakamanos4469 15 күн бұрын
Really? Was his name Winkle Brown or Jeff Quill? Zurakowski maybe? LOL.
@Cervando
@Cervando Жыл бұрын
Lovely to hear the company is still going and a fitting tribute to his friend and partner that they specialise in ejection seats, so as to prevent further fatal accidents. It's indeed a pity that there isn't one in a museum, as it is in many ways a remarkable aircraft.
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 Жыл бұрын
Yes a main producer of aircraft ejection systems.
@JS-ob4oh
@JS-ob4oh Жыл бұрын
Not only still going, but still run although not owned by James Martin's descendant, John Martin. However, things are not all rosy due to a scandal in 2011 that involved a death of a pilot; see the Red Arrow Incident.
@memkiii
@memkiii Жыл бұрын
@@JS-ob4oh That's a pretty specific case, that has since been addressed. 1 death due to incorrect maintenance compared to many, many thousands of lives saved, so why mention it? Quite a few people have died as a result of ejection seat incidents, usually as a result of poor maintenance practice, mis-handling, or incorrect use. As a mech in the RAF, I was always very wary of the bang seats ability to kill me. Deaths in service happen, but fewer happen as a result of an ejection seat being present than would if one was not in use.
@JS-ob4oh
@JS-ob4oh Жыл бұрын
@@memkiii My, no need to be so defensive unless of course you work for Martin-Baker. So do you? Interesting "logic" of yours where if thousands were save, it's fine if 1 dies. And if 10 died while 10,000s were save, that's fine, too. and If 1000s died, that's fine if 1 million survived., that's wonderful. Sounds like something a money grubbing businessman or a Conservative would believe.
@andrewgause6971
@andrewgause6971 11 ай бұрын
​@@memkiii It's just like an airbag ir an improperly maintained seatbelt. Poor maintenance or improper use can absolutely result in a death. But the number of lives saved, in contrast, is so large that deaths caused by aforesaid poor maintenance are virtual statistical anomalies by comparison. Bailing out of a modern military plane is basically impossible without an ejector seat, simply due to the speeds they fly at. So a round of applause to the makers of them, and the maintenance personnel who ensure the seats do their job. :)
@judet2992
@judet2992 4 ай бұрын
As DEFYN once said, it’s the Man’s Baked.5 It’s a real shame we didn’t see it.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 Жыл бұрын
A small technology firm for which I once worked had this sign on the wall: "Warning: there comes a time in the history of every project when it is necessary to shoot the engineers and go into production." We too had an issue with letting perfection being the enemy of the good, and risked losing our market by taking too much time in development, as was the fate of the MB-5.
@jonathanstein1783
@jonathanstein1783 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I had a friend in southern California who was like this. He was a former thermal engineer for Huges. Somewhere he picked up a Fournier RF4D motorglider, and installed a 2.1 liter Revmaster conversion on it. He then spent the next two years designing and redesigning baffles for the engine, so that all CHT's and EGT's were equal. I don't mean within a few degrees of one another, I mean exactly the same. He finally got it done. Then he decided to fabricate and mount an electric propeller adjustment. Guess what that caused? He then spent another six months balancing temps again! Not long after finally completing his project, he lost his medical🙄🙄
@hughleyton693
@hughleyton693 Жыл бұрын
There is a fine line on that.. . . Go into production too early and you could have a big failure problem on you hands and no more orders.
@tryagain.k1821
@tryagain.k1821 Жыл бұрын
Better is the enemy of Good.
@rooramblingon895
@rooramblingon895 Жыл бұрын
It is the eternal question of "When is good enough actually good enough?". Hard to answer I think.
@tryagain.k1821
@tryagain.k1821 Жыл бұрын
@@rooramblingon895 When it achieves its design criteria !
@olgreywolf9688
@olgreywolf9688 4 ай бұрын
At 85 now, my memory may not be serviing so well ... but as I recall, Eric Brown, a penultimate pilot's pilot, of those years ... was a major contributing aviator to the development of the MB-5. Astonishing that he is not even mentioned in this document!!!! Serious omission IMO. I wrote Mr Brown many years ago, to inquire if he might collaborate on an aircraft document featuring, the MB5. He declined due to being occupied on other projects at the time. I still have his note... somewhere. In any case, yes, an experienced career aviator, now retired, I've always had an major interest in the MB-5!!! Contrary to other's discussions/implications here implying there was more than one MB5, to my knowlege, ONLY ONE airframe was ever flown. And Mr. Brown did much of that flight test time. He spoke very highly of the machine. This was a beautiful design. My impression seems to be that aside from arriving too late on the scene (jets were beginning to show up) the airplane was a complex one--would have been complicated to manufacture, as compared to the Spitfire/Hurricane technology of the time, and was also very heavy.
@Buster_Piles
@Buster_Piles 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for commenting. 😊 Just wanted to say Winkle is a hero of mine, a real lion-heart.
@davidgapp1457
@davidgapp1457 Жыл бұрын
This is the best documentary on the MB.5 I have ever seen. A first class coverage of this remarkable aircraft and its history.
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 Жыл бұрын
By the time the MB5a appeared, it was the age of the Gloster Meteor. Amazing piston fighter, way ahead.
@herbertshallcross9775
@herbertshallcross9775 Жыл бұрын
Way ahead of obsolescence. Whatever war contracts were keeping Martin Baker going, they were in no position to produce a fighter aircraft in useful numbers, no matter how good it was, and it wasn't all that good until long after it was needed, One prototype, a year and a half after Germany was able to produce any real improvement on it's first-lime fighters, was the definition of useless,
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet Жыл бұрын
Do you realise that your first sentence completely contradicts the second?
@joevanwyk381
@joevanwyk381 8 ай бұрын
Top class video, thanks Rex Hangar. I love how Martin dedicated his business and life to ejection seats (very successfully) from the tragedy of losing his best friend and business partner. True grit that, despite the rejection of his aircraft
@rolanddutton
@rolanddutton Жыл бұрын
I've been fascinated by the MB-5 since I read about it in a book as a child many years ago. It's like the best CD player when everyone else streams their music. A petrol supercar in the age of EVs. That appeals to me.
@MrCervuselaphus
@MrCervuselaphus Жыл бұрын
My sheer contempt to those who used it as a target. Sounds like others wanted to see the back of it asap. Thanks for the video, at the very least there are a collection of fine photos of the MB.
@waynester71
@waynester71 Жыл бұрын
My grandad worked for MB based in Denham, Bucks for 40 years. He worked in the sheet metal design office. He retired in 1991. He actually got me an IV there when I left school at 16. I didn’t get it simply because I had interests elsewhere. I have great memories of my grandad though.. He would bring home the warning stickers & labels that were put on the ejector seats, and I would stick them on my school bag and bike 😊
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think anyone would be interested in your totally boring story ?
@wheater5
@wheater5 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interesting story.
@bugler75
@bugler75 Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear your story. Explaining that your Grandfather working there for 40 years days a lot about Martin Baker as a company.
@richardpeychers4076
@richardpeychers4076 5 ай бұрын
Why would you think anybody would be interested in your rude opinion.​@@tonywright8294
@mikeycraig8970
@mikeycraig8970 4 ай бұрын
​@@tonywright8294 It's called a personal connection dyk hed.
@perrydowd9285
@perrydowd9285 Жыл бұрын
I had never heard the story of Martin Baker. Thanks Rex. Great vid. 👍👍👍👍👍
@patjohnson3100
@patjohnson3100 Жыл бұрын
Very unfortunate that this advanced plane ended its life as a ground target. I was completely unaware of this plane. This is still a great success story, however, because Mr. Martin went on to develop and build ejection seats. No doubt this has saved many lives. Another very informative video.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 Жыл бұрын
Utter thoughtless vandalism.
@raytrevor1
@raytrevor1 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhaynes8045 Yes, especially when you think of how many hundreds and maybe thousands of redundant airframes there were after the war.
@rarebear7788
@rarebear7788 8 ай бұрын
Thankfully there is a full scale replica in Stead Airport in Reno Nevada!
@mogster71
@mogster71 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t it 6 feet shorter than the original and has the wings from a P51? That’s stretching the term replica a bit, more a collection of parts.
@F0urSidedHexag0n
@F0urSidedHexag0n Жыл бұрын
What an amazing but obscure machine with an unfortunate end to its life... So wish I could see it in a museum 😭
@petergray7576
@petergray7576 Жыл бұрын
For the record: the first ejection seat was invented by Romanian engineer Aneastase Dragomir in 1929. The German Heinkel firm and Swedish Saab continued development in the 1930s, and debuted on the Heinkel He-280 jet prototype, and was fitted to the He-219 night fighter, He-162 jet "fighter", and the Dornier Do-335. The early German and Swedish systems used compressed air to propel the seat, but by 1943 this was replaced with a gunpowder charge. The Martin-Baker design improved upon the German and Swedish designs by adapting them for faster jet aircraft and became the de facto standard postwar.
@throwback19841
@throwback19841 Жыл бұрын
Like many ideas, conceiving the idea and making it work 100% of the time from 0 altitude/0 knots are two very, very different things.
@johnborrowdale5918
@johnborrowdale5918 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding story of two brilliant men. And to think their legacy lives on!!
@ElsinoreRacer
@ElsinoreRacer Жыл бұрын
The P-51's ventral scoop was designed that way to take advantage of the Meredith Effect, pioneered by the British, who used it (sub-optimally) on the Mosquito. The British provided the documentation to Curtis, who were asked to pass it on to North American when the British contracted with them to develop for them the aircraft that became the P-51. MB couldn't steal from the P-51 what it was lent to it by the British.
@wilburfinnigan2142
@wilburfinnigan2142 Жыл бұрын
Dutch Kindelberger, president of North American, was forced to "buy" the plans from Curtis but his response was it "Only told him of what NOT to build. The Mustang scoop was developed by North American. Baker copied the Mustangs general design. obvious as the nose on your face !!!
@ElsinoreRacer
@ElsinoreRacer Жыл бұрын
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Sorry. Meredith effect is real, British and already in use. Rant forever. Still true. Not really an opinion thing.
@bobsakamanos4469
@bobsakamanos4469 Ай бұрын
Everyone had access to the Meredith paper (1935) which was mostly theory. It was the german B. Goethert who applied it to working radiator systems in wind tunnels and published a study in 1938 regarding the ducting and ideal rad temperature differentials. NAA used that information to some extent and developed it further, whereas Curtiss failed on both the XP-40 and XP-46. RAE's Shenstone and Thomas were instrumental in helping NAA perfect the radiator ducting in the P-51 series.
@bobsakamanos4469
@bobsakamanos4469 Ай бұрын
@@wilburfinnigan2142 The interesting issue is why didn't Hawker use the Meredith scheme or the Goethert study or NACA research to fix the problems with the outdated Hurricane which was clearly outclassed by the Spit in 1936. Profiteering and influence peddling to keep the money flowing in.
@JeffreyWilcox
@JeffreyWilcox Жыл бұрын
Rex, you certainly open our eyes to a wide variety of aircraft, making it easy for us to visualize the progress add development of the various improvements through the ages. Your coverage of how the aircraft improved, and how well they performed in actual combat. A pilot myself, I certainly do appreciate the knowledge, and wish I could fly them for some test hops!
@darylsapergia3663
@darylsapergia3663 Жыл бұрын
Bravo to Mr. Martin, and his company!! Well done chap.
@malcolmcarter1726
@malcolmcarter1726 Жыл бұрын
Criminal what happened to that beautiful bird. The MB 5 has always had a mythical status in my personal aviation museum of the mind. The success of MB Ejection seats is lengendary though. With sales to an amazingly diverse collection of countries and companies
@DavidBrown-cp2vm
@DavidBrown-cp2vm Жыл бұрын
@malcolm carter "Personal aviation museum of the mind." I like that thought and it sums up my aviation interest too.
@Claymore5
@Claymore5 Жыл бұрын
Arguably the best video documentary I have watched regarding an aircraft that has fascinated me since I was eleven years old (a very long time ago). When you consider the comments made by three of the very best pilots / test pilots of their day (if not ever) this aircraft was a tragic loss to the world of aviation - something that has plagued the British aviation industry since the Second World War.
@greghanson5696
@greghanson5696 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Thanks for covering this. Keep up the good work Rex!
@Britcarjunkie
@Britcarjunkie Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I personally am aquainted with the two brothers that built the replica in Nevada: one had owned a P-51 for many years, but passed away before the replica was flying (I think). Their last name is Marlin, and I met them through a gentleman that was good friends with them, by the name of Fred Sebby, who had a love for warbirds, and flew the one brothers' P'51 often. Unfortunately, Fred also passed away, back in the '90's. He had a bad habit of sunning himself in front of his hangar, in an old easy chair and he used a mirror, and sadly, it killed him: he developed skin cancer, and it entered his brain via a tear duct. He was quite the character, and I still miss that guy.
@johnmarlin4661
@johnmarlin4661 Жыл бұрын
I recall meeting a John Marlin ( same as my name) working on a MB at the Chino airport I believe back in the late 60 's or early 70's . Never knew much else about the plane or him . Thanks for the video
@Britcarjunkie
@Britcarjunkie Жыл бұрын
@@johnmarlin4661 it was more than likely one of the two! John used to keep his P-51 at Chino: that's where I first met him!
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
This shows why near enough can be better that perfect. Near enough would have given use a fantastic aircraft at a time when it was needed instead of when it was no longer needed.
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 Жыл бұрын
Robert Watson Watt, the radar pioneer adopted as his motto "Second Best Tomorrow". If he'd pfaffed around seeking perfection like James Martin the CH system would never have been completed and we would have lost the Battle of Britain
@stoopingfalcon891
@stoopingfalcon891 Жыл бұрын
I remember someone talking to me about the MB5 when I was a kid (I am 67). He suggested that it would equally have rivalled the Spitfire as one of the best planes of ww2, if they had had more time for R and D. I suppose we will never know now.
@AveryFlies
@AveryFlies Жыл бұрын
Ah, what a great way to start my Saturday! Great video as always!
@LeopardIL2
@LeopardIL2 Жыл бұрын
I didnt even know about this failed bird. I wonder if this keeps this way what will be the future off online documentaries with this talented KZfaqrs delivering like this.
@maciejrerek5023
@maciejrerek5023 Жыл бұрын
On the end you made excellent teaser for the second part of Martin-Baker company story 😉. When can we expect history of the most important invention in aviation since the appearance of the parachute?
@chandarsundaram1394
@chandarsundaram1394 Жыл бұрын
As always, a splendid video, a well-researched exploration of a might-have-been fighter plane.
@kumasenlac5504
@kumasenlac5504 Жыл бұрын
The MB.5 shares the fate of the DH Hornet - it was the last hurrah of the piston-engined fighter even as the first jets were entering service. The Hornet went to sea for a bit until the Navy worked out how to launch and land jets but after that it was all over.
@xandercaswell8984
@xandercaswell8984 Жыл бұрын
Finally 😁 one of my favorites. Dug up alot of info on this aircraft, so much so I worked for Martin-Baker
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks Жыл бұрын
It is somewhat ironic that Martin-Baker operates those Meteor aircraft as it was their introduction into service that may have been the most significant reason for the MB.5 not being ordered by the Air Ministry. As is so often the case, in life, timing is a crucial element.
@roberthardy3090
@roberthardy3090 Жыл бұрын
Neither of course was the Hawker Fury 1, also first flown in 1944, whose production order was cancelled. The naval version, the Sea Fury, of course had a distinguished career, with both the RN and in overseas airforces.
@oldgregg446
@oldgregg446 Жыл бұрын
Very happy to see this channel, deservedly, blowing up with views, keep up the good work
@adrianrutterford762
@adrianrutterford762 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video. Keeping me nearly sane on my laundry day.
@alexandremarcelino7360
@alexandremarcelino7360 Жыл бұрын
Muito interessante! Gratidão pelo vídeo e pelas informações!🌟
@alexglanowski695
@alexglanowski695 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating and fantastic video!
@letsseeif
@letsseeif Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your outstanding review of the Martin Baker MB5. As you mention in your final comment, Martin Baker is the Western Power's default ejection seat to date.
@Bugsworth
@Bugsworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear reporting and for bringing this story out into the open. Had never heard of this aircraft before.... Subscribed !
@nickhewitt320
@nickhewitt320 Жыл бұрын
According to a book by William Green, as well as flying like a dream, pilots also thought that the cockpit and instrumentation was very well laid out, and should be made as standard for all succeeding aircraft, though whether this includes jet aircraft is not known. Oh, and a very good video. I'd heard of the MB4, but I knew nothing about it.
@Rocketbunny71
@Rocketbunny71 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, really enjoy your channel Rex, thanks! Nice to hear at the end they put the statue up at the gold course where Baker crashed.👍
@nek8827
@nek8827 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video one day about the plane in the upper left at 14:40, the Dornier Do 335 Pfeil which should be one of the fastest or even the fastest piston driven plane of WW2. Well at least the single seater version.
@hughie522
@hughie522 Жыл бұрын
I just spent a few minutes Googling trying to figure out what that weird plane in the background was, and it was the Do 335 :P.
@rocknral
@rocknral Жыл бұрын
The Germans certainly were on the edge of design.
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 Жыл бұрын
The " Pfeil " was a great aircraft........ as long as you remembered to turn on the rear engine. Believe it or not, some pilots didn't.
@theprojectproject01
@theprojectproject01 Жыл бұрын
In postwar testing, it walked away from every Allied piston fighter as if they'd been chained to a wall. Absolute unit.
@project-gladiator
@project-gladiator 4 ай бұрын
Man, those late war german planes. where crazy.
@SKILLED521
@SKILLED521 Жыл бұрын
Another grand video, Rex. Thanks and kudos.
@willh1933
@willh1933 Жыл бұрын
Great job as always, keep'em comin'!
@Itsjustme-Justme
@Itsjustme-Justme Жыл бұрын
The UK basically had enough high performance aircraft types in mid 1944. The Spitfire and Mosquito were still going strong, the Tempest managed to get over the shortcomings of the Typhoon, the (Sea)Fury and (Sea)Hornet were already on the way and the Spiteful and Meteor were on the horizon. All made by companies that had proven they were capable of getting an aircraft ready for service and actually mass produce it. And UK knew they would get access to thousands of American fighters immediatelly if there ever was a gap to stop.
@dbaider9467
@dbaider9467 Жыл бұрын
Lovely stuff, as always.
@gregbolitho9775
@gregbolitho9775 Жыл бұрын
Your spot on about that MB5 Rex, another goodie m8!
@howardcroft3748
@howardcroft3748 Жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Very well produced. I'm definitely subscribing.
@bobthebomb1596
@bobthebomb1596 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thoroughly enjoyed that.
@JDK73772
@JDK73772 Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos
@MyMelodyFlowers
@MyMelodyFlowers Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Enjoyed this video very much. You have a talent for presenting and providing facts. Keep up the good work!
@johnyqtx
@johnyqtx Жыл бұрын
Good video man! thoroughly enjoyed this!
@maxmachac9756
@maxmachac9756 Жыл бұрын
Id love to see you look into the Bugatti racing plane, such an interesting plane imo
@glitchingwiththethugz8400
@glitchingwiththethugz8400 Жыл бұрын
I love this aircraft! Wonderful video
@CptPandy-tj9ty
@CptPandy-tj9ty Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up new rex's hangar video dropped
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Жыл бұрын
LMAO!!!
@guinnog2
@guinnog2 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@Rabscuttle3
@Rabscuttle3 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, thanks!
@jackdripper5675
@jackdripper5675 Жыл бұрын
The Gloster Meteor jet fighter entered squadron service in July 44, the last thing the RAF needed was yet another super prop. I think Martin Baker knew that but viewed the MB 5 as a demonstrator of the company's technical capabilities.
@belliott538
@belliott538 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thanks for sharing this info with us… Cheers!
@markhooper5824
@markhooper5824 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant mate.
@revwarnut
@revwarnut 9 ай бұрын
Thanks.. this is an excellent presentation.
@joeschenk8400
@joeschenk8400 Жыл бұрын
After reading about this aircraft long ago, I thought is was unfortunate it was not produced for service in WWII. Thanks for your work on this.
@pissedoff-is1mt
@pissedoff-is1mt 5 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@stuartbuxton4316
@stuartbuxton4316 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation.
@Vlcounek
@Vlcounek Жыл бұрын
Great job and outstanding information.
@user-zw4ip8bl1z
@user-zw4ip8bl1z 4 ай бұрын
Seemingly a terrific plane !
@majscrap2629
@majscrap2629 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@martinhall60
@martinhall60 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing channel and video. Well done Sir. 👍
@halamish1
@halamish1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@ryangale3757
@ryangale3757 Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder how things might have been different if the prototype hadn't have crashed and Baker wasn't killed. Might the company have been a bit less perfectionist in it's design philosophy with it if Baker were still around to reign Martin in a little? If so, maybe the plane gets finished soon enough for the RAF to be able to put it into production.... but then the company might not have gone on to make ejector seats, thus potentially costing thousands their lives. Definitely a very interesting divergence point for sure.
@joeking4206
@joeking4206 Жыл бұрын
Well well well. I never knew that. Thank you. I am very aware of MB ejector seats but didn't know why MB came to make them rather than aircraft. Fascinating.
@MililaniJag
@MililaniJag Жыл бұрын
Very impressive! Cheers!
@neiloconnor9349
@neiloconnor9349 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done!!
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Spitstang , or a Mustfire
@longtsun8286
@longtsun8286 Жыл бұрын
Mustfire sounds more aggressive, as in "I [the fighter pilot] MUST FIRE upon the target," though it can have unfortunate connotations, e.g., "The plane MUST catch FIRE."
@bobsakamanos4469
@bobsakamanos4469 15 күн бұрын
LOL.
@WilHenDavis
@WilHenDavis Жыл бұрын
Nice job! Thanks for sharing! ;)
@johnreiman7127
@johnreiman7127 Жыл бұрын
MB.5 has always been a favorite. Now you tell me I can never see one. Nonetheless, thanks for making these videos lol. Always love them
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын
Always loved this plane
@Crow_Friend
@Crow_Friend Жыл бұрын
Excellent original content, well done! Subscribed.
@rogerbolinger2301
@rogerbolinger2301 Жыл бұрын
Good job on this one especially.
@ianbell5611
@ianbell5611 Жыл бұрын
Thank You. Great video Cheers
@linuschan39
@linuschan39 Жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of piston-engined fighter designs.
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Жыл бұрын
Compare it to the P-51H which flew 9 months later, the 51H was 27 mph faster and could fly about 1 1/2 times as far. I think the MB.5 held a slight advantage in climb. Compared to the Grumman F8F Bearcat which flew about 3 months after the MB.5, the MB.5 had a 5 mph speed advantage, both aircraft had about the same range and the F8F had a not inconsiderable 800 ft/min climb rate advantage. Those are the nearest contemporaries of the MB.5 I could think of. Was it the pinnacle of piston fighter design? No. Was it near the top? I would say it was.
@animaltvi9515
@animaltvi9515 Жыл бұрын
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus and the sea fury.
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 Жыл бұрын
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus 9 months for the P51H is, during this time, a considerable period given how engine technology was still advancing rapidly at the time. Given the MB-5 was powered by a griffon there is nothing to preclude later models (had it gone into service) being fitted with later and more powerful Griffon engines, just as was done historically for the Spitfire. As a result later variants of the MB-5 would have had different performance to early variants, just like both the Spitfire and P-51. Personally I think its a mistake comparing the MB-5 with the P-51H for that very reason, the F8F Bearcat is a far better comparison given the engine is contemporary to the MB-5's.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot Жыл бұрын
G'day, Well, what about the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation's CAC-5 ; sort of an overfed P-51 with all the Bugs worked out of the design, upgunned to Cannons, and about twice the Mustang's Range - but faster...? Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Жыл бұрын
@@alganhar1 The Packard Merlin V-1650-9 used in the 51H was available in 1944, before the MB.5 flew. The Griffon in the MB.5 had way more power than the Merlin V-1650-9 in the 51H.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks 👍
@jeffsmith2022
@jeffsmith2022 Жыл бұрын
Well done, thank you...
@bimmjim
@bimmjim Жыл бұрын
👁💗 this channel because there's NO MUSIC. Thank you Rex.
@DaraM73
@DaraM73 Жыл бұрын
I mentioned this fighter in the comments section a while back. Half of the story was that the death of Baker in a testing accident affected James Martin’s resolve to produce aircraft prototypes, and instead focused on pilot escape methods. I did a lot of archival research on MB and came away with the opinion that the company knew they were only ever producing experimental designs to satisfy ministry requests to advance aspects of engineering during wartime. I know Martin was more adept at solving specific problems through mechanical ingenuity, such as the very successful wing mounted cable cutter.
@basilreid257
@basilreid257 Жыл бұрын
Nice video on one of my favourite aircraft.
@scottlewisparsons9551
@scottlewisparsons9551 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very interesting video.
@gregorydahl
@gregorydahl Жыл бұрын
These videos are amazing .
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@GreenHopper62
@GreenHopper62 5 ай бұрын
Quelle triste histoire. Merci de nous l'avoir conté. Vous êtes passionnant!
@georgebird1715
@georgebird1715 Жыл бұрын
Great backstory had no idea this plane was built by the same company known for ejection seats. just clicked! Your engineering histories behind the planes are the best.
@gregbolitho9775
@gregbolitho9775 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MakotoAtava
@MakotoAtava Жыл бұрын
Great Video. 👍
@animalian01
@animalian01 Жыл бұрын
This is without doubt my favourite fighter 'might have been' of WW2
@sososocrates7183
@sososocrates7183 4 ай бұрын
This plane is the complete reverse of "If it doesn't look right, it probably won't fly right." I mean it's such a beauty of a aircraft
@petergray7576
@petergray7576 Жыл бұрын
And since everyone is pointing out the Do-335, maybe someday, when Rex is feeling he has too much sanity, he'll take us down the rabbit hole that are the "Luft 46" designs in greater detail (like the Ta-183 Huckebein).
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