"every once in a while" 😂

Yeah kinda had no rest

Yeah and now they beat solary once already in all-stars, and have to play numelops in quarterfinal and then likely solary again in semis and if they win it'll be a repeat situation against alliance. Massa and granady have been playing out of their minds lately beating solary multiple times this stage. Alliance are just so dominant that any team will struggle to win against them right now

Also, remember Wirtual said Granady was feeling sick from the flight in the previous video, which was only 30 mins before the finals.

Big fanboys with the excuses

@@johannes960 lol I like all of them but who can't root for an underdog bro! All played insanely well.

go play it yourself and you will appreciate it even more!

@@ARudePanda yeah, people who don't play, but watch the videos (like i have until 11 months ago lolol) don't realize how god damn difficult playing on this level actually is

Yeah, i agree with that. I knew way too early who was going to win this cos a second best of 7 would be impossible to fit in at a certain point.

do you mean having a bracket reset?

@@cubic_regent most double elims give the upoper bracket team a game win instantly to make it more fair than the unlikeliness of a double bo7 win

This is how it works. Just be the better team and you get the advantage

@@GDUniverse I think the original commenter is talking about giving the upper bracket team an advantage over the lower bracket.

@@cubic_regent after reviewing the actual format of the tournament I think I understand better what the original commenter was talking about. Of course the team from the upper bracket should have an advantage, but the tournament was set up in a goofy way where the grand final was likely to be the shortest match. The upper bracket matches were two Bo7s followed by a tiebreaker and the lower bracket matches were two Bo5s followed by a tiebreaker. The Grand Final on the other hand was set up as a Bo3 of Bo7 matches where the upper bracket team has a 1-0 lead to start. That's fair and all, but that means that it is going to be either one Bo7 or two Bo7s in length. In comparison the Upper Bracket and Lower Bracket finals both went two full series (Bo7s in upper and Bo5s in lower) followed by a tiebreaker. Kind of makes the Grand Final feel a little less grand than the matches leading up to it.

Yeah, is only a half hour break reasonable?!

It's not fair because it shouldn't be fair, the upper bracket team should have the advantage. The real question is how to make it a satisfying grand final whilst keeping it balanced around an upper bracket advantage, which this format failed to do.

that's the disadvantage of lower bracket ig and the losers and winners bracket are on the same bracket position, so the winner bracket team are essentially waiting for the losers final winner to play against them, and that's a certified double elimination moment

@@fourierbird I mean they already have the advantage coming from the UB that they only need to win one BO7 and the Team from LB needs 2

@@AspglutrTV yeah and even if they had lost, they get a 2. chance by dropping to LB. this competition system was dumb. on top of that, they start the grand final with a lead of 1-0, how stupid is that?

Or just don't do a double elimination bracket.

it wouldn't be trackmania without silly competition formats

To be fair solary did the same last series and won from the lower bracket so it’s not impossible

Lower bracket is supposed to be at a massive disadvantage, that's the whole point

​@@LunarySSF2there is fair disadvantage and there is unfair disadvantage. It doesn't make sense to have exhausted players. This competition is created for the best of the best to compete, not to see a fully rested team beat people who have been sweating for an hour and a half before.

Or early in the morning as in Europe :)

Your pic thoroughly confused me for about five seconds

BIG was lower bracket thats why its fair. Alliance just deserved this win way more than BIG

@@rosekrababbel7042 they already got the map point extra, to play directly after is an extra making in a bit unfair

@@BARUtubbig Alliance deserved this advantage bc of upper bracket tho

@@rosekrababbel7042 the advantages are too big. they have to play less games to get to grand final, they dont need to worry about breaks between games, they get a 1-0 lead in the grand final and to top it all off, if the upper bracket teams lose before the grand final, they get a 2. chance in lower bracket. this system is completely dumb.

@@Kuerikami they deserved it because they are better.

fuck that sounds so much better

the comment about the script got me. very nice wirt

You mean Wirt's co-commentator JNic? They live in the same house and I think by his own words he's become Wirtual's best friend, although Jnic is moving back to his home country Denmark soon. And it's nice to see that people are equally excited about their commentary, I remember watching early TMGL matches from this season earlier in the year on the official grand league channel, and there were sometime comments asking why Jnic was even there, and such things. I think his commentary might've improved since then too. :3

they go so high

I agree

yes

100%

why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?

I don't watch trackmania esports so I'm not 100% sure but it seems like you get a point for finishing above a player from the other team but only for one of their players? so if a race finishes: 1st= "A1" 2nd= "B1" 3rd= "A2" 4th= "B2" ( "A"=alliance players) A1 beat b1 so he gets a point for alliance and A2 best B2 so he also gets them a point so that would be 2 points for them. But B1 also beat A2 so he gets BIG one point for that? Then I think if you ace and both of your team get 1st and 2nd you get a bonus point giving you 3 points for the round. It seems pretty complicated and that could just be me completely misunderstanding it LMAO, they should probably just make it simple and use the ranked system but last place gets 0 points and raise the total score needed maybe? Seems like a lot more people would watch if they understood the points easier

​@Payzh An Ace is A1 A2 B3 B4 and gives 3 points to A and 0 points to B A round victory is A1 B2 A3 B4 and gives 2 points to A and 1 point to B A draw is A1 B2 B3 A4 or vice versa, and gives 1 point to each team.

No like a week, this is a reupload from the official TMWT channel

@@BARUtubbig, ah, thank you.

I don't think people are unhappy with the format, they are unhappy that the format didn't force a longer game. The final is great if BIG wins the first series the format is great. The best games are the closest ones and unfortunately it wasn't close.

Just because it happened to work out in an exciting way in the loser bracket finals doesn't mean mean the format isn't flawed.

the format is just shit, cut the 1-0 lead in grand finals out and its ok.

yeah exactly, the advantages for upper bracket are just way too much. if anything, the advantage of having to play less matches to reach the grand final + getting a 2. chance if they lose before grand finals is already advantage enough. but starting the match 1-0? thats just stupid.

Si tu madre

They could’ve seen it live.

editor has watched it

@@biododik sigueme yaaaa

It's a reupload from the TMWT channel