The Fire Starter Experiment: Stephen King History

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6 ай бұрын

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Welcome back to the Stephen King Book Club... Tonight we are exploring the history of THE SHOP and the Lot Six Experiment which led to a very powerful little girl named Charlie McGee, made famous in King's novel: FIRESTARTER.
Join us as we answer all your burning questions about pyrokinesis... and a lot of other secret government operations...
Don't worry... None of this is real... Or is it???

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@rondocalrizian3962 6 ай бұрын

Love using the shop to connect to so many other stories

@ArchTeryx00 6 ай бұрын

The scene in both book and 1984 movie where Charly burns down the Shop still sticks in my mind. One little girl basically became a walking Crocodile tank, armored and armed to the teeth and able to throw flames and incediary projectiles with machine gun speed. The Shop sent everything they had at her and EVERYTHING they sent was promptly shot down or burned, human and machine alike. Small arms, machine guns, RPGs? Couldn't even scratch her. And the absolutely terrifying thing was that that was just the tiniest sample of her powers. A line from the movie always sticks with me: "Suppose there is a little girl out there, somewhere today... this morning!... who has within her, lying dormant at present... the power someday to *crack the very planet in two like a China plate in a shooting gallery?"* She was a doomsday bomb. It's really too bad Stephen King never followed up on that.

@80sMoviesRule1 6 ай бұрын

The original movie with Drew Barrymore was my favorite. The connection between the father and daughter was palpable. You really feel it. The pyrotechnics were breathtaking and scary. The remake…. Kinda disappointing.

@ericcartman7361 6 ай бұрын

Firestarter is one of my favorite underrated King books. It’s just a good journey with Andy and Charlie. Felt neither adaptations really got it right. Hopefully they’ll do better next time. Anyone here heard The Long Walk is finally getting a movie?

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

So glad they are making progress on the Long Walk film!

@mac888spectral7 6 ай бұрын

Yep! Read it yesterday. I'm not familiar with the director but at least it's rolling!

@ericcartman7361 6 ай бұрын

@@stephenkingbookclub1054Same. Now all I need is an update on Thomas Janes From a Buick 8 and Ben Stillers Rat and I’ll be satisfied

@ericcartman7361 6 ай бұрын

@@mac888spectral7I’m just happy we’re finally getting a movie. It has been in development hell for a long time and hopefully they’ll move on it quickly. I really want Ben Stiller to start working on Rat because Derek Zoolander in a King movie is something I need to see

@Joshua_Froschauer 6 ай бұрын

His early stuff had a real emotive vibe...roller coasters for sure

@Itried20takennames 6 ай бұрын

Glad the Tuskegee experiment was described accurately here, in that the bad part was that the study did not tell participants that they had syphilis (more common at the time). The study did NOT give participants syphilis, as many YT videos claim.

@Allspadez 3 ай бұрын

I'm from Alabama...some Had Syphilis already and others were exposed to Syphilis. These are/were family members and friends of ours. The point was that they studied them like Animals without treatment, helping spread the disease, and cause more issues in our community. My Grandfather's and uncles friends Did Not have the Disease until they ended up getting 'treatment' from the sellout Nurse Evers and her Doctors.

@kimwhatmatters4085 Күн бұрын

Why are you glad?!? What’s wrong with ppl thinking the government gave the men the disease and how are u do sure they didn’t?!? Which is untrue if you don’t inform those who have if they’re infected and they infect others you did it. Like omission of the truth is still a lie. That’s happening is the invalidate or minimization of damage by demonic ppl that don’t want true accountability. Even worse the demonization of the victims as if they are to blame for thier predicament like they’re partly to blame 🙄🤨. How evil do you have to be that you’re bothered that ppl find the experiment wrong 😮 ur like 🗣 it wasn’t that wrong 😑

@MrUndersolo 6 ай бұрын

I read 'The Dead Zone' because of this page, and now I have to look for this one. Brilliant work, as always. Got me all...fired up (sorry, couldn't resist)! 🔥

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

At our book club, you'll never be PUNished for word play :)

@rondocalrizian3962 6 ай бұрын

This channel somehow produces King content on par and sometimes better than Hollywood n tv can. It doesn't showcase kings work but connects n adds to it

@ericcartman7361 6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Hollywood is too busy making crappy adaptations of his work like 2020’s The Stand and Firestarter. If they screw up The Long Walk, I’m going to be pissed 😡

@13fyrefli 6 ай бұрын

@@ericcartman7361that will be like The Dark Tower. I know it won’t live up to my expectations but I’ll see it anyway and complain about it for the rest of my life.

@katethomas7329 6 ай бұрын

I looked over to my screen just as tou mentioned a resort in Palm Springs....I laughed so hard I choked and had to rewind. Well done😂

@GuiltyKit 5 ай бұрын

I liked that he managed to portray effectively having superpowers is something you would absolutely not want to have to deal with. How he turned what would be a power fantasy for most into a horror story.

@elmermedina1713 4 ай бұрын

Depending on the power. I'd love to have the power to teleport. Save lots on transportation. Just enough to teleport between countries

@itf2586 6 ай бұрын

It's been decades since I read Firestarter, so any specific memories I feel I have retained from the novel may likely be influenced by the 5 or 6 viewings of the 1984 film I have rewatched over the years. That said, my favorite part of the the novel is "The Incident at the Manders Farm". Not for the destruction it causes, nor for the chaos it brings to both the Manders & McGees, but rather the goodness & kindness offered to complete strangers, helping our fellow man & woman, that's all it takes. At a point when Andy is most desperate and terrified for his daughter's safety, after just having lost his wife, the Manders take in both Andy & Charlie, despite the red flags & warning bells. People helping people, strangers saving strangers, that's all it takes, and it's a shame that we don't cuz no one need ever feel alone & helpless.

@willhuey 5 ай бұрын

They also played a role in the mist project arrowhead

@skyscribe 2 ай бұрын

The morbid, twisted kitchen disposal/masterbatory scene (due to that dreaded echo side effect of Andrew's push) was memorable. 😂

@montecristo1845 6 ай бұрын

I adore this type of epistolary storytelling. Some of my favorites include Dracula, World War Z, and the Griffin & Sabine books. Also, kudos for the documentary style this video utilizes. Also also, I audibly chuckled when the “bathroom in Florida” was filled with boxes of documents and the “laptop in Delaware” were key clues in the Firestarter/Shop mystery. 😂😆

@SomaShiori 5 ай бұрын

19:12 - I don't know whether or not to be weirded out or proud of myself for the fact that I immediately knew that the "Daddy" yell they inserted into that 911 call was literally little Maggie Banning from the movie Hook....random I know but still hilarious enough to me to want to share; great video though

@stephenkingbookclub1054 5 ай бұрын

Wow! Nicely done... I think you should definitely be proud :)

@lymarie1974 6 ай бұрын

Present for the lecture. Front row and ready to be entertained 😅

@mac888spectral7 6 ай бұрын

A story that I like a lot is "Hearts In Atlantis" from the book of the same title. Nothing of any major significance happens so I don't know if there would be much you could do with it on this channel, but I just find the characters and their unhealthy addiction to the game of Hearts really interesting. And I think King loosely based Peter Riley on himself.

@ajwinberg 4 ай бұрын

Fire starter with Drew Berrymore was one of my favorite video to rent when I was a kid, yes a kid. My mom would let me watch anything. Lol😅

@cornjobb 6 ай бұрын

this was the first stephen king novel i remember reading that just depressed the hell out of me. it was just sad for all the characters in the book.

@wade 6 ай бұрын

I know! The poor Mom! 😢Poor dad… and Poor Charlie!

@cornjobb 6 ай бұрын

i even felt bad for rainbird...@@wade

@danielhainline8882 4 ай бұрын

You forgot about the fire at the Manders' farm. Irv Manders picked up Andy and Charlie McGee while they were hitch hiking. The Shop followed them to the home of Irv and Norma Manders. Charlie set fire to these guys, chickens, the barn, a chopping block, and made the cars explode. Andy encouraged the carnage and he had to slap Charlie in the face to get her to stop. Irv gave Andy a Willie's jeep and Andy and Charlie took off. Charlie came back to the farm a year later without Andy.

@SHLVideos Ай бұрын

I see what you're doing with the declassified files in the bathroom, and I love it. This is some excellent meta-storytelling.

@stephenkingbookclub1054 Ай бұрын

Thanks so much. As you may have noticed, I have way too much fun making these.

@shadowbear4113 Күн бұрын

Also the laptop abandoned in a Delaware repair shop. Equal opportunity storyteller.

@fullonsociopath 5 ай бұрын

Charlie, did you burn down that building? "How dare you!"

@Prof.Tarfeather 4 күн бұрын

I read the Stephen King Novel before ever watching the film? This happened to be one of King's Best! The Novel always has a backstory and many details you never see in any film! In the opening credits of the Firestarter it states the Novel was based on True Events. Of Course we see this more often now as a ploy to get viewers whether it's true or not? However, in the early 1980's this was not the case. When a film stated it was based on true events, we took that to heart.

@alicenolfi2095 6 ай бұрын

Great video as always! I read 'Firestarter' around 8 years ago, and I've read *hundreds* of books since then, but I still remember it well. Andrew was truly a tragic figure, I rooted for Charlie like I've done with few other characters, and Rainbird was terrifying. Also, I really, *really* hope we get an episode of Hatfield making it safely back to the mainland. Considering King's Multiverse, I envision the podcaster either hitching a ride with a marine animal, or making a deal with some kind of Lovecraftian horror XD

@alman54 6 ай бұрын

This was so interesting to watch. i love how you mixed real-life events with the fantasy of the story, i.e. the laptop in Delaware, the "upcoming" film, and all the photos and even George Hatfield, too bad he disappeared. Did he disappear after the event at Stovington Prep? Plus this video filled in so many blanks regarding the Shop and the Lot 6 experiment. Very fascinating.

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

Have you watched any of the STRANGE RESORT videos? If not, you'll want to watch the first one: "Strange Resort: The Story of the Overlook Hotel."

@jyotirvakyananda 6 ай бұрын

Soooooooo…George Hatfield was “eaten up” doing a story on Salem’s Lot. I see what you did there!!!!!

@pamelaenriquez5281 6 ай бұрын

The document photo is great! 😂

@DSnake655 6 ай бұрын

As much as I felt for that couple, it was pretty awesome reading where she makes that scene when they find them sheltering at that old couple's place I'm a little high right now. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Idk.

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

LOL!

@coloradohikertrash9958 6 ай бұрын

I love how in all of these "Government experiment leads to superpowers" stories they just can't manage to not treat the beings with Godpowers like garbage. But I guess leaving well enough alone doesn't make as interesting of a story

@BeautifulEarthJa 6 ай бұрын

I reread (audo this time) Firestarter this year. These books I read in the 90s as a high school but it was one of my first and one of my faves.

@MausMasher54 5 ай бұрын

I love that bathroom photo, seems Mar-A-Largo is involved too, hmmmmm....Now redo this with Stephen King doing the Narration....I bet he would too....

@DavidMcConnell-ep8ud 6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if any of this is actually true, but it boggles my mind to even think there's VERY rogue organisations like "The Shop" out there. Honestly, the sheer amount of horror stories we're only now hearing about makes it difficult to even fathom, that people are STILL being treated like lab rats by the U.S military and C.I.A etc. Obviously these people must have spouses and kjdd of their own, so what did they tell them they worked as when leaving for work every day?? Also, didn't any of them ever even feel bad or remorseful for their actions over the years. Scary!!!

@Jimmy94411 5 ай бұрын

Something very like the Tuskegee experiment happened to highschool students in Rockdale county, Georgia some years ago. The government covered it up by calling it a sudden STD epidemic limited to highschool students. In this case, people were deliberately infected.

@4817Indian 5 ай бұрын

Genius. Well made.

@robertdochter277 5 ай бұрын

I would love to see a video on Project Arrowhead!

@parisgreen4600 6 ай бұрын

This is a total gem! You put so much creativity into these vids. Thank you. 18:15 "Live Like a King"! LOL 23:35 great image of John Rainbird - is it based on the cover of "The Stand" with the crows' eyes?

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. The Live Like A King Real Estate sign is an image from the Castle Rock TV show... And the John Rainbird image is sort of a happy accident. I was trying to generate him on the Midjourney AI app... and it kept refusing to create a normal looking eyepatch. After a lot of editing and image regeneration, that ragged looking crow-like patch over his eye was the best I could muster up!

@aliasfakename3159 6 ай бұрын

There's a movie called PUSH starring Chris Evans and Dakota Fanning that feels like a spiritual sequel or successor to Firestarter. Basically, the US government succeeded in creating people with ESP for espionage but some of the people had escaped the government's control. Many of the escapees took refuge outside of North America but their children were still hunted by the government

@calamityjai99 6 ай бұрын

There was also a movie called The Fury that almost felt like a side story to the Lot Six thread

@jyotirvakyananda 6 ай бұрын

Shoot out The Mist; shout out Golden Years; shout out unifying then Stephen King Universe like a giant spider living under Derry Maine weaving monstrously large webs that ensnare stray kittens, cats, dogs and puppies!!!!!!! If you keep posting ‘em; WE’LL KEEP ENJOYING ‘ EM!!!!!!!!! Constant Reader is always dressed up and ready to go out on a date!!!!!!!! And remember, if it’s not in a history book or Rolling Stone Magazine; THEN IT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED!!!!!!! Or did it?

@mztweety1374 4 ай бұрын

10:55 That's one of the reasons old black folks do not like doctors to this day. My grandad told me.

@pamelacurl8342 3 ай бұрын

Rose Madder , have you considered talking about that very haunting and satisfying book? This book is a favorite of mine.

@4817Indian 5 ай бұрын

Great images.

@steveOhh68 4 ай бұрын

You’re amazing,you’ve threaded so many things to make a tight tapestry ❤

@stephenkingbookclub1054 4 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@BigBadBlackMagicDaddy_1865 6 ай бұрын

So I keep going back over it,… maybe King borrowed the name from IT and decided to just think nobody would notice or use it as a callback. Patrick Hockstetter, the child psychopath that was also apart of Henry Bowers thuggish ensemble of cowardly cohorts? Perhaps it’s coincidence but I doubt it. Another masterful video!! Hoping to hear the mournful howling of Cujo soon 🙏🏾🐺😋 or the jingle jangle of the threshold of someone strolling into Needful Things..

@thing_under_the_stairs 6 ай бұрын

Firestarter was written well before IT, so I think you might have it backwards... but yeah, I noticed the name too, and thought it was odd, since King doesn't usually recycle names, unless it's deliberate.

@BigBadBlackMagicDaddy_1865 6 ай бұрын

@@thing_under_the_stairs Apologies, never managed to read his works in order from .. is there an official first novel to start with and move forward from? I just thought all the novels King wrote were more or less supposed to be one offs with references in them. My mistake 🙏🏾

@thing_under_the_stairs 5 ай бұрын

@@BigBadBlackMagicDaddy_1865 I just follow by the year that they were written. I'm sure that there's a chronological list of when King wrote each of his books somewhere! In fact it's probably on Wikipedia. But his world(s) is very interconnected, and finding bits of one story linked to another written decades later is always a fun treat!

@elmermedina1713 4 ай бұрын

@thing_under_the_stairs he does reuse first names. Salems Lot: Danny Glick The Shining: Danny Torrance It: Eddie Kaspbrak Dark Tower: Eddie Dean

@Leen713 6 ай бұрын

These videos are so good! Makes me want to re-read Firestarter and some of my other favs.

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! I'm glad you found our channel :)

@CornPop2 6 ай бұрын

Channel is awesome!!!Hope you Dark Tower series soon

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

LOL, that will take a little while... But hopefully before the end of 2024 we'll get started on The Gunslinger!

@ericm215 6 ай бұрын

Does stepen king have ESP i wonder?

@staticfish5132 6 ай бұрын

This is amazingly well done.

@user-wb8eh6lf5n 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see this linked with the novel The Institute, I just finished reading it and love the links to Fire Starter

@13fyrefli 6 ай бұрын

Amazing video, as always!

@stephenkingbookclub1054 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@justokayemilay6029 6 ай бұрын

Why was I SURE the chemical concoction was Cortexifan?! Getting my canons mixed up.

@BeautifulEarthJa 6 ай бұрын

Constant reader here.

@cozicrochetco 5 ай бұрын

Nah that 911 call was creepy 😬

@dougeldredge 2 ай бұрын

i loved that book when it came out!

@the250mikec 6 ай бұрын

👍 You rock

@daniellewillis2767 6 ай бұрын

Did I hear the name Patrick Hockstedder?

@waymire01 6 ай бұрын

Yep. General consensus is it could be Patrick Hockstedder senior since junior meets his end a couple of decades earlier in IT. His dad's name is never mentioned and the dates line up ok. Either that or just coincidence, names of random characters are reused pretty often in the Kingverse. Firestarter was written first, six years earlier than IT.

@TheDopekitty 14 күн бұрын

So weird to hear this like a news magazine broadcast as if it were true.

@aimeem 6 ай бұрын

I looked it up on an online inflation calculator and $200 in 1969 works out to $1,676.68 in 2023.

@aimeem 6 ай бұрын

And $750,000 in 1975 (guessing the date) works out to $4,289,093.87 in 2023

@mztweety1374 6 ай бұрын

Yay!🎉🎉🎉

@Brentonthemagnificent2787 6 ай бұрын

Do cujo next

@scryguy1 6 ай бұрын

Lol. Documents assumed declassified found in a bathroom in exclusive Florida resort. Nice touch.

@datsweetsansabooty 6 ай бұрын

Great vid once again! Also kudos on the the non-derp Greta Thurnberg on the thumbnail

@thelj3279 5 ай бұрын

A super channel!!!💚!

@stephenkingbookclub1054 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad you found us :)

@thelj3279 5 ай бұрын

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@haymaker710 6 ай бұрын

I'm the fire starter twisted fire starter

@woolybowly4205 6 ай бұрын

Seems to me you're a Prodigy

@haymaker710 6 ай бұрын

You're a fire starter, twisted fire starter

@blacknapalm2131 6 ай бұрын

13:38 *J'ai une âme Solitaire*

@jonascanlas7401 6 ай бұрын

This is a real good one .... They should do a piece on john smith or carrie white .....

@parisgreen4600 6 ай бұрын

Hi, John Smith appears in his video "Who Was the Castle Rock Strangler?" - it's really good.

@jonascanlas7401 6 ай бұрын

@@parisgreen4600 thanks I'll definitely check it out 😎👍

@FreejackVesa Ай бұрын

I have a copy of Charles Forts original book, first edition. It's an interesting read.

@stephenkingbookclub1054 Ай бұрын

Very cool. I wonder how much it's worth today?

@FreejackVesa Ай бұрын

@@stephenkingbookclub1054 oh I do t think it's really worth anything, it's just a fun reference book. I collect physical reference books as an unofficial hobby type thing. My favorite reference book is "Brewers Rouges, Villains, and Eccentrics" - it's about 500 pages of short biographies of very strange people and scandals through the last 1000 years or so. I highly recommend it if you like books. I often have a coffee at the end of the day and just page through my collection of weird books, it's very relaxing. Love your channel!

@drunkplantmom 3 ай бұрын

At 13:39, is that Harold from Twin Peaks? 😳

@stephenkingbookclub1054 3 ай бұрын

Yes it is! You have a great eye!

@drunkplantmom 3 ай бұрын

@@stephenkingbookclub1054 I knew it! Thank you! I may have a Twin Peaks problem. And now a Stephen King Book Club problem. 🙃 Best problems to have. ❤️