Which one is more likely to come first - a next gen QD-OLED panel with even more text clarity enhancements, or proper Windows support for QD-OLED text subpixel layout?
@visioncodex3507Ай бұрын
I've had this monitor for about a week and I'm very pleased with it. Coming from an Acer Predator X34 IPS, it's my first OLED and first HDR screen. I use this monitor for gaming, browsing, movies as well as music production and video editing. I don't find the poorer text clarity compared to non-OLEDs to be a major issue. The difference HDR makes in games is substantial. Bright things in games like flames and headlights actually look like they're emitting light. In HDR I prefer the Peak1000 mode because it makes small highlights pop more than in Trueblack 400, while everything else remains pretty close.
@kevinstoops7216Ай бұрын
Are you able to Play games in Full screen without having the Monitor try to go to 4K resolution instead of the usual 3440x1440 via HDMI 2.1? I can't play games like Rocket league or Icarus because of this on my Mag341CQP.
@mileskt9232Ай бұрын
Where do you live, I haven't got any reports of it available in the USA.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
@kevinstoops7216 you could try using the CRU tool and deleting the graphics card EDID entry for 3840 x 2160, as long as you don’t actually use that from your pc over HDMI for anything else. It will be an oddity with the screen thinking you’re using a console
@nickjones4533Ай бұрын
@@mileskt9232 Australia
@nickjones4533Ай бұрын
@@kevinstoops7216 I use displayport and haven't had that problem.
@konno283522 күн бұрын
I found the new approach comparing the two HDR modes by looking at luminance accuracy at different APL extremely useful, giving deep insight for selecting between these two HDR modes. Thanks a lot for your hard work, Simon, and great job!
@tftcentral22 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and I’m really glad that new testing and data was useful 😀
@applesauce2710Ай бұрын
Great review. I bought this monitor a week ago and initially enjoyed it, but had issue with adaptive sync when it's not fully working properly. I suspected the monitor's refresh rate didn't really follow in game's FPS (despite its refresh rate counter displaying it is) resulting in juddering when panning the game around. It was largely noticeable when capping FPS around 90% of monitor's refresh rate e.g. 108 FPS @ 120Hz, 216 FPS @ 240Hz. Furthermore at 240Hz, capping at 60, 80, 120 FPS didn't have juddering as the numbers are divisible from 240Hz. I've already sent my monitor back for warranty, but what still bugged me is whether it's just a bad luck issue or a worldwide issue which could be solved via firmware update.
@CreamworksАй бұрын
hopefully a firmware issue they can fix soon
@applesauce2710Ай бұрын
@@Creamworks for the record latest firmware which is v0.18 isn't out in public yet, but we'll see once I receive my monitor back from RMA.
@bobbebusybuilding741313 сағат бұрын
@@applesauce2710any update?
@TMACTMАй бұрын
Great detailed review, thankyou.
@mohamedahmed1023Ай бұрын
I wish these were 5120x2160 so we could at least enjoy 4k content.
@SpykerSpeedАй бұрын
Same. This is the ideal resolution.
@houssamalucad753Ай бұрын
@@SpykerSpeed not really ideal, you have to use scaling for it. while on 1440p you can run at 100% scaling and it looks sharp enough with text not being too big or too small.
@FiveFiveZeroTwoАй бұрын
What 4k content? Scaling should work just fine..
@mohamedahmed1023Ай бұрын
@@FiveFiveZeroTwo what do you mean what 4k content? And scaling isn't sufficient for many of us.
Thank you for the detailed review! Really excited for this despite the sub-pixel layout being the same. The performance headroom afforded at this resolution and refresh rate with the full 48Gbps HDMI 2.1 combined with DLDSR will keep this monitor highly relevant for fully maxed out gaming even with the future 5090.
@mileskt9232Ай бұрын
Where in the video did they mention the DLDSR i must have missed it? This is the deciding factor for me!
@flyingpjАй бұрын
@@mileskt9232 it's at 9:20 in the video
@tftcentralАй бұрын
It’s in there, it supports DLDSR even at native res and refresh rate 😀 there’s also an option to disable DSC in the OSD menu too
@mileskt9232Ай бұрын
@@tftcentral OMG! okay, buying day one! (Was this over HDMI and DP?) Waiting for release date still and i have no monitor currently until this is out :( lol
@mileskt9232Ай бұрын
@@flyingpj thank you, thank you!
@Jon_Cruz89Ай бұрын
do you know if any gen 3 or gen 4 ultrawide QDOLEDs are coming next year?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Not had any official word on that yet I’m afraid
@AnimByBmXu28 күн бұрын
Great review!
@walker22732Ай бұрын
will there be any QD-OLED UW 34" with actual Gen 3 panel + new additions in 2024? Maybe I wait till next year.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Not that we know of this year. Longer term I’d be surprised if there weren’t further updates to these panels but we don’t have any firm info at the moment
@ghinochips584223 күн бұрын
Gigabyte MO34WQC2-34 is the new Gen i think.
@tftcentral23 күн бұрын
@ghinochips5842 it’s the same panel as this MSI model. There’s only one Samsung 34” 240Hz panel I’m afraid
@techieg33kАй бұрын
I'm still thinking I will just want a 32" at 4k...I think I could get a solid 60hz on my system
@GeordiLaForgeryАй бұрын
These manufacturers will probably make you wait another 3-5 years for something logical like that.
@FranciscoxdsАй бұрын
I would love to see a review of the 5k2k ips black monitors! great Vid!
@lamjk10Ай бұрын
This such a great review. Pls review the samsung 32g80sd if you haven't already.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Hoping to at some point
@IntrovertAlertАй бұрын
Awesome video! TFT Central, do you know if HDMI Forum VRR works on AMD GPUs? Looking at a TV that only has G-sync compatibility and HDMI Forum VRR and connecting to my PC with an AMD GPU via HDMI 2.1 48Gbps.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Pretty sure that if it is Gsync Compatible it would need to use adaptive sync, which would mean an AMD card could use that for FreeSync. Not 100% certain but it should do
@IntrovertAlertАй бұрын
@@tftcentral Thanks!
@applesauce2710Ай бұрын
Don't take my word for it, I think it didn't support until March 2023 with AMD driver secretly adding support HDMI Forum VRR. I've tested with LG B9 with "unsupported" FreeSync, and now VRR works.
@pietroalessandriniАй бұрын
The TCL 34R83Q and the TCL 27R83U recently came out. By the specs alone they might be one of the best option for people like me who want to use mini LED. Are there any plans to review them?
@silviotorres436320 күн бұрын
Display Ninja made a review on this monitor and on the current firmware that the monitor ships out with which is like .010 there are issues with adaptive sync. I am patiently waiting for .018 since it will address those issues and other issues like latency issues. Hopefully they release it soon.
@tftcentral20 күн бұрын
Yes we had the newest firmware for our testing. It should be released pretty soon I believe. I’ll follow up with MSI to check
@tftcentral19 күн бұрын
update, MSI tell us it should be released mid-August :)
@RobbieKhanАй бұрын
On my AW3423DW in Creator mode that black depth and contrast test pattern I can see all of the boxes with box 1 basically being black. Was the review of this MSI in its relative equiv creator mode which is the most colour accurate and tonally accurate too or the default which is typically oversaturated/contrasty and thus loses black detail?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
That was tested in a range of preset modes including the equivalent emulation modes
@IAMkingofkings31829 күн бұрын
Amazing review! How noticeable is the washing out of colors in HDR for woled vs QD Oled? I want to get an ultra wide to complement my PG32UCDM but the dimness in real scenes bug me in the peak 1000 nits mode. I’m hoping to avoid this with a woled. (worth noting that ASUS recently added more options to combat this and I’m enjoying the Gaming mode’s brightness now so I’m looking for a similar picture level).
@tftcentral29 күн бұрын
The WOLED just generally look a little less colorful I think. Partly due to washout from the white boost, but that’s only really for low APL scenes and small highlights keep in mind. More generally it’s because of the slightly smaller colour gamut and even a bit from the screen costing finish. Probably more of a consideration I think would be if you mind the steep 800R curvature that the WOLED ultrawide panels have? That’s a lot more than the 1800R of the QD-OLED models
@RyuKaiser92Ай бұрын
Great monitor ! Bought it based upon this review, cannot be happier ! Do you know when they intend to release the firmware update ?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying it. I think new firmware was supposed to be by the end of the month
@RyuKaiser9216 сағат бұрын
@@tftcentral sigh. End of August nearly and still no firmware:(
@andrewmorris3479Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Any plans to update the ASUS PG32UCDM review with firmware MCM105? Also, would being able to easily distinguish box 1 be ideal in the shadow detail test?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Hopefully will update that review at some point and retest it. Yes ideally you’d be able to see the lower boxes but it’s really rare on OLED monitors in SDR, adding box 4 or 5 is common so it’s not much different here
@andrewmorris3479Ай бұрын
@@tftcentral Sounds good! My PG32UCDM using sRGB Cal makes box 1 easily distinguishable while Racing-sRGB starts with box 1 but just barely. I love being able to switch between gammas with these two modes!
@tg24612 күн бұрын
Nice review, how would you rate Gigabyte's MO34WQC2 against it ?
@tftcentral12 күн бұрын
We’ve not reviewed that model I’m afraid but check out the review at Monitors unboxed
@ungabungawoowoo9980Ай бұрын
Can we expect a settings guide for FO27Q3 as well as a review video ?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
No plans I’m afraid for that one
@bogie170Ай бұрын
I so want to buy this monitor but I will wait for a Gen3. Gen 1 doesn't cut it for me. They have had 2 years to sort this out. :(
@a5centАй бұрын
Yup. Same. What I really want is OLED with a normal RGB stripe. No funky RGB triangles from the TV world. LG.display's next generation should have that, but only at the end of 2025 (or so).
@bogie170Ай бұрын
@@a5cent Thanks for the info. Looks like i'll get another 2 years out of my Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q then.
@Superdazzu2Ай бұрын
Bought a refurbished aw3423dwf recently (almost 2 months ago) and it's blowing my mind with it's image quality expecially in hdr, but is the mid-grey brightness issue fixable with firmware updates or is it inherent to the current qd oled panel technology?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
It’s configured that way to conform to guidelines from the panel manufacturer Samsung, but some displays are brighter and configured differently so it seems like it’s possible to overcome it if they want to and can
@HundLing0122Күн бұрын
Is it possible that the new GIGABYTE MO34WQC2 monitor uses the same Samsung panel? So 240 Hz but with the Gen1 sub-pixel matrix. If so, then this is already a competitive price compared to the MPG 341CQPX that Gigabyte is offering here. In Germany I can currently get the Gigabyte for 1000€
@tftcentralКүн бұрын
Yes it’s the exact same panel 😀 pricing will vary by region but that is certainly a good price for the Gigabyte model
@Takashita_SukakokiАй бұрын
MSI MPG 271QRX has strange DSC behavior where full screening/alt tabing from fullscreen it will take the panel for about 5 seconds to display an image. Thats on a rtx 3080 (friend owns the same monitor and a 3080 same issue) tested with both HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4 ports. Also tried the same on a rx 6700 xt where alt tabbing was instant, seems to be bad nvidia DSC implementation. Turning off DSC solves it. Also turning on borderless fullscreen in games bypasses the issue. Could some be helpful information to someone.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
That’s very common with NVIDIA card. Your suggestion to work around it is a good one 👍
@applesauce2710Ай бұрын
Had same issue with AMD RX 6900XT with DSC, I forgot to test with DSC off as I had bigger issue with the monitor and is already been sent off for warranty.
@imadecoy.Ай бұрын
Definitely never use fullscreen exclusive mode
@Takashita_SukakokiАй бұрын
@@imadecoy. As in you dont or you shouldnt?
@imadecoy.Ай бұрын
@@Takashita_Sukakoki You shouldn't. It only makes multi monitor setups unusable and has this alt tab delay you're talking about.
@absolutexkАй бұрын
If only they released this before i got the G9 OLED. I know they are different resolutions, but at the point i was interested in this, i hadnt even considered the G9 yet.
@Junga123424 күн бұрын
Is it worth getting any of these monitors with the 1st Gen Pixel Layout? I keep seeing it listed as a negative. I purchased thee LG39 inch OLED and I can't tell if the lower PPI is causing the text fringing and minor blur or if it is the 1st Gen Pixel Layout. Still have a little bit before deciding if I want to return it.
@tftcentral24 күн бұрын
It’s probably a combination of both the unusual pixel layout and the low pixel density. Note that the 39” models are using WOLED panels as opposed to QDOLED and overall I think those show more fringing and text clarity problems, even where the screen size is the same. So you’d see some improvements moving to a smaller screen with higher density, and also to a QDOLED panel I think
@Junga123424 күн бұрын
@@tftcentral I am going to be returning the LG39 inch today. I really enjoyed the product height and curve and will miss it. Do you think the MSI MPG 341CQPX is a good purchase to fill the gap? I will be using it for work and gaming. I think I would get at least 10-12 extra PPI going to a 34 inch 1440 OLED.
@tftcentral24 күн бұрын
@Junga1234 I think it’s a really good 34” oled yes. I think you’ll find text better than the Lg you’re returning
@Junga123424 күн бұрын
@@tftcentral it’s a tough decision because I work from home 8 hours a day and I will have to battle OLED burn in. I’m also interested in the AW3225QF but not sure my 4080 can perform that well.
@flejmie123Ай бұрын
So are there any other monitors that are supposed to have the gen 3 panels in this 34" 1440p format?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Yes there’s these couple using the same new panel tftcentral.co.uk/news/corsair-xeneon-34wqhd240-c-announced-with-a-34-ultrawide-240hz-qd-oled-panel tftcentral.co.uk/news/acer-predator-x34-x5-announced-with-34-ultrawide-240hz-qd-oled-panel tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-release-aorus-mo34wqc-and-mo34wqc2-34-ultrawide-monitors-with-qd-oled-panels
@AR-ke8wgАй бұрын
@@tftcentralaccording to the articles sited those also use the gen 1 pixel structure correct? Same as this msi mpg x model
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Correct. Same pixel structure I’m afraid
@ghinochips584223 күн бұрын
Can i use the MO34WQC2 with 3080 ore i need a Monitor with adaptive sync, gsync? Thx 4 help
@tftcentral23 күн бұрын
@ghinochips5842 an NVIDIA RTX 3080 you mean? That will work fine, the screen supports Gsync via adaptive sync
@bigjalapeno534711 күн бұрын
This or the Gigabyte MO34WQC2?
@504Trey8 күн бұрын
So u would say that this monitor is better than the LG 34gs95qe even though the LG seems like it gets brighter hdr as far as what i can see through videos on KZfaq?
@tftcentral7 күн бұрын
HDR might well be brighter on the LG model so if that’s a priority then you could certainly consider that model. But it has a very steep curvature, matte AG coating and inferior text rendering which is why personally we prefer this QDOLED panel
@504Trey7 күн бұрын
@tftcentral Thank u for the response.. im going to order the MSI.
@tftcentral7 күн бұрын
@504Trey let us know how you get on. Ps we’d appreciate it if you clicked via our affiliate links in the description if you’re ordering from any of the main sites. That helps support our site and channel 😀
@Ryan_tremaine_klarenbachАй бұрын
Does msi mag271qpx also have this update ?? It’s basically the same model as mpg271qrx but for $50 less i think
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Differences between those two models covered here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-complete-msi-qd-oled-monitor-range-round-up-and-guide
@13DreadКүн бұрын
Where are the gen2/gen3 qd-oled ultrawide monitors hiding? Why are all coming with gen 1 panels?
@tftcentralКүн бұрын
They’re all gen 2.5 panels with the enhanced technical and longevity features from gen 2. The pixel structure is actually not tied to gens we have since discovered and so that element remains the same as with the gen 1 panel
@13DreadКүн бұрын
@@tftcentral yeah that's what I mean: it has the same old pixel distribution which, from what i know, affects the text clarity quite a bit. I just was hoping they got rid of that. Its quite weird isnt it?
@tftcentralКүн бұрын
@13Dread yeah it is strange that wasn’t carried over to this panel when it was used for their 49” panel last year, and their 27” and 32” this year. Text isn’t terrible or anything don’t worry, it’s just a bit improved on newer shape sub pixels
@pcheco112 күн бұрын
What’s your opinion? This one or aw3225qf for work and gaming on a 4070ti? Work is mostly log reading and coding
@tftcentral12 күн бұрын
Quite fundamentally different in aspect ratio and format. The ultrawide is prob better for multi tasking but the 32” has a higher pixel density, better text clarity and sharper image. I’d prob say the 32” models are more suited to your needs overall
@pcheco112 күн бұрын
@@tftcentral thanks for the feedback!
@chencheating4677Ай бұрын
Got this monitor and love it. Why can't I adjust brightness is hdr mode? Looking at the comparizon for the two hdr mode, which one will you recommend using? And should we expect improvement to the peak 1000 mode with future firmware update?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
That’s normal to not be able to adjust it in HDR. You’d want to leave it on max to achieve the highest peak brightness for highlights. Only enable HDR mode when you’re viewing actual HDR content though MSI are looking in to possible updates to Fw to improve brightness behaviour in peak 1000 mode. For now, try both and see which you prefer for your content
@tftcentralАй бұрын
@drunkhusband6257 if you think HDR is junk, you’re not doing it properly 😀
@tftcentralАй бұрын
@drunkhusband6257 total nonsense
@justinstewart3248Ай бұрын
Is this really the FIRST one? Isn’t the like 4 other models out for months now?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Like what?
@justinstewart3248Ай бұрын
@@tftcentral Theres several of these including the Alienware version and the Asus version. This is not the first. They all use the same panel.
@tftcentralАй бұрын
@justinstewart3248 the Dell Alienware models both use the original gen 1 panel from 2022 which is 175Hz max only. The Asus model used an LG Display 240Hz WOLED panel. This is the first 34” QD-OLED monitor with 240Hz, using the new gen 2.5 panel from Samsung 😀 So no, they’re not all using the same panel at all
@justinstewart3248Ай бұрын
@@tftcentral I stand corrected!
@ikamuzu_oturanАй бұрын
so is it glossy or matte? or the same as the 34" alienware
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Same as all the other 34” QD-OLED monitors
@DevilishTayАй бұрын
Can you do a settings video for the FO27Q3?
@DevilishTayАй бұрын
Will never get an answer oh well
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Not if you post a question, wait a little over an hour and then post again! But no, I’m afraid we haven’t got any plans to review that screen so can’t provide a best settings video
@DevilishTayАй бұрын
Posted on a other video days ago aswell :) @@tftcentral
@TMACTM29 күн бұрын
Monitor arrived today and I'm just wondering if there's a way to disable the small power light in the bottom center of the monitor?
@tftcentral29 күн бұрын
Not on the original firmware but it’s included in the new forthcoming firmware so look out for it on MSIs website
@TMACTM29 күн бұрын
@@tftcentral great, thankyou very much!
@TMACTM28 күн бұрын
@@tftcentraljust wondering if in your testing you found any difference in input delay between adaptive sync enabled and disabled?
@tftcentral28 күн бұрын
@TMACTM nothing meaningful, no. It very rarely has any impact in our experience
@TMACTM28 күн бұрын
@@tftcentral I appreciate the reply, thankyou!
@Davids6994Ай бұрын
This for 1200€ or the previous model for 800€?
@tftcentralАй бұрын
At that price difference I’d have to say the MAG model
@a5centАй бұрын
Oh boy. Am I glad I didn't wait for this. I would have been incredibly disappointed. Still waiting for OLED ultra wide that works for gaming and productivity.
@imadecoy.Ай бұрын
G80SD when? Thing is legit hard to set up.
@GeordiLaForgeryАй бұрын
Same nasty stand that samsung and lg use too, far too big so have to factor in an additional 40quid for a stand.
@LaDeXiАй бұрын
Smaller stand would make the screen wobble too much.
@GeordiLaForgeryАй бұрын
@@LaDeXi If it's well made then it won't, but it's cheaper to make these huge legged ones that take up desk space.
@LaDeXiАй бұрын
@@GeordiLaForgery I personally don't care because it's space under the monitor. Can't use it for much else anyway :)
@GregKealeyАй бұрын
I still don’t understand why we need more than 120hz (unless you play games professionally). I’d rather see manufacturers work on larger screens with higher resolution so these monitors could be used for productivity purposes.
@MilosCsrbАй бұрын
Hard disagree, 120 is too low, barely good for productivity
@applesauce2710Ай бұрын
I on the other hand personally enjoy higher refresh rate even if I'm not playing competitively. 120Hz is smooth enough yes, but 240Hz is noticeably better. Regardless a higher resolution monitor is planned on its roadmap.
@Your_ParamourАй бұрын
Because motion clarity is important and 120hz sample and hold is not very good.
@devincortno123Ай бұрын
cannot imagine a worse format for a monitor review than a video. you are getting almost no views, go back to your website and writing articles
@tftcentralАй бұрын
We’ll produce content in the way we want thanks very much. Feel free to not watch if you find video format so terrible
@kpirxАй бұрын
I prefer video
@tftcentralАй бұрын
Thanks. I know some people do and were just trying to accommodate both audiences as best we can
@Davids6994Ай бұрын
Many people find video reviews extremely helpful for evaluating monitors. They provide a dynamic way to see the monitor in action, showcase details, and offer visual comparisons that text alone can't achieve. Plus, it's easier for many to consume content this way. If you prefer written reviews, that's great-there are plenty out there for you!
@devincortno123Ай бұрын
@@tftcentral I don't
@arturlukaszewicz3375Ай бұрын
Alienware AW3420DW 34 or MSI MPG 341CQPX QD
@tftcentralАй бұрын
It’s covered at the end of this review (consider our views of the AW3423DWF to apply to the AW3423DW too)