The First Descendant Monetization And Gacha | Is It Pay To Win?

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Ай бұрын

Let's take a look at the Monetization and gacha system that is setup in the First Descendant! All in all it could be a lot worse, it's pretty much the same as Warframe. You can buy slots for descendants, boosts, items, gacha color pickers, skins, everything the same as Warframe really. So let me know if you love it or hate it!
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@Vonalray
@Vonalray Ай бұрын
Small update from the Devs They are removing the RNG Paint feature. Battle Coins are also being removed, you now gain rewards by leveling the pass. They are "Significantly increasing base inventory space"
@MasterAarott
@MasterAarott 26 күн бұрын
Minority opinion here I know, but I kind of liked the gacha paints. It would make my fashion far more unique. I get how other people wouldn't like it, though.
@Vonalray
@Vonalray 26 күн бұрын
@@MasterAarott It would literally turn every character into a clown made of mismatched colors. Each armor part requires up to 4 individual pains, you need 9 paints just to make your helmet match your armor.
@MasterAarott
@MasterAarott 26 күн бұрын
@@Vonalray Yeah, they'd be mismatched, but they'd be unique. MY mismatch of colours would be mine and mine alone.
@francopannacottta3751
@francopannacottta3751 9 күн бұрын
The color gatcha system is completely gone? I actually found the system interesting. It could have been solved differently and quite simply? set the rate of the needed items very high or they could have just increased the distribution of the paint collors (instead of one you get 3 paintings) or you can buy the colors directly with the currency. etc. Just increases individualism. I guess they changed it to "direct buying" now, which probably makes the game even more expensive ^^
@Vonalray
@Vonalray 9 күн бұрын
@@francopannacottta3751 They replaced the gotcha with the ability to earn them via gameplay.
@mikecompton4180
@mikecompton4180 Ай бұрын
I lost almost all interest in this game after seeing just how aggressive the monetization is
@itzruntz2964
@itzruntz2964 Ай бұрын
I mean Nexon is mainly a mobile game developer monetization is the norm for mobile games I'm not surprised, still you can be f2p and still enjoy it. Edit: Git halfway through the vid and it's worse than I thought💀💀💀
@partyboy1076
@partyboy1076 Ай бұрын
what you expect from nexon. these asian developed games with thier super predatory monetizations is the reason i stay away from it.
@mikecompton4180
@mikecompton4180 Ай бұрын
@@partyboy1076 I knew nothing about the company and playing the alpha the game looked fun and like it would have Fair monetization
@maxrosefoxanime7225
@maxrosefoxanime7225 Ай бұрын
I remember playing the beta and knew it was gonna be a issue but probably will still play it sadly
@Emma_2Banks
@Emma_2Banks 26 күн бұрын
Meh, if it’s just for cosmetics then I don’t care.
@mirasolovklose3888
@mirasolovklose3888 Ай бұрын
Looks like I am gonna have a lot of time to play games that respect my time.
@zeblackcat9398
@zeblackcat9398 Ай бұрын
I actually played around with the color stuff, and when you go to color parts on the guns or characters, you can use each color as much as you want per skin, not just once on a spot then its gone, just don't click it on one part, then hit accept, gotta color all the parts you want that color before saving. They also have a bank/storage area separate from your player inventory. Honestly, not terrible for a nexon FTP game. CS Nexon Studio, that ftp cs zombies game shit was way worse lol
@staubinmichael637
@staubinmichael637 Ай бұрын
Amen 🥰
@Vonalray
@Vonalray Ай бұрын
They are removing the RNG Color pallet feature.
@kkadzh3625
@kkadzh3625 Ай бұрын
red flag when i see that color pallet stuff "denying" creative freedom by putting a paywall is kinda upsetting. and if you're individual coming from a game with allot of customization you'd prob be mentally forcing your self to buy and hope you get some colors right.
@panoctic
@panoctic Ай бұрын
wow i though the destiny 2 shader system was annoying this takes the crown by alot
@Vonalray
@Vonalray Ай бұрын
They announced it's being removed.
@reznya2700
@reznya2700 22 күн бұрын
You guys are cry babies. Imagine getting worked up able dye shaders..... You guys also pretty pick the ugliest and most annoying colors.
@devilfork1
@devilfork1 Ай бұрын
I mean Im still gonna check it out. The gunplay and movement felt great and warframe is reaally starting to show its age.
@Always.Smarter
@Always.Smarter Ай бұрын
this game is nothing like warframe. its a destiny clone
@Wolpher
@Wolpher 25 күн бұрын
I have played it, if you have played Warframe and wondered what warframe would be like if it was shit, then yeh, you have the first descendant. This game won't hold your attention for more than 2 hours. Warframe is superior in everyway, even in graphics, especially in performance and optimization, weapon uniqueness and variety, combat, Map/world design. This game has got nothing except hotter characters
@imonyourside8376
@imonyourside8376 10 күн бұрын
This game plays much slower which I love, Warframe I'm a founder of but haven't played in forever most of the modes are just racing to me.
@maimer1691
@maimer1691 8 күн бұрын
Oh sweet summer child.....
@simonshura9144
@simonshura9144 6 күн бұрын
Plus not everybody is into weird warframe creatures 😂 Geared humans are much more appealing personally
@TheGamingSKITZ
@TheGamingSKITZ Ай бұрын
This game monetization is just customization like warframes fashion framing which im not worried about. Thats fine for me
@aaronjrpederson3283
@aaronjrpederson3283 Ай бұрын
I honestly kinda had hope for this game, I guess I'm not playing this anymore
@Star-ns9rp
@Star-ns9rp Ай бұрын
The pricing can make all that even worse.
@FloatingLilyPad
@FloatingLilyPad Ай бұрын
This is a Korean game. Ofc it has insane monetization.
@zackwalkman8574
@zackwalkman8574 12 күн бұрын
True. Also, when korean or asian make live service games, the target audience are always western. They want all the usd you guys have. Not long ago, I complained about how expensive it is to buy anything in their games and they ask me to stop playing their games if I don't like it. That's asian dev for you.
@RIPPERwBFG
@RIPPERwBFG 9 күн бұрын
Well f2p game so they gotta eat, can't make a sub or b2p game now days due to pay gating the brokies won't play so a game will rather be f2p letting 80% be free and enjoy the 20% of whale funding the game, gamers created this culture no we need to live with it
@IYI115
@IYI115 Ай бұрын
some of the colors do not disappear after use but remain forever. I didn't understand exactly how this mechanic works, but you definitely have colors that can be used many times. It's also important to note that you don't really want to be like a glowing rainbow. You will use the same colors for the helmet, armor and weapon to be cool in tone , probable 2-4 permanent collor will be great .
@ninjanebula7335
@ninjanebula7335 Ай бұрын
Its by Nexon, i expected this would happend.
@kareemporter3096
@kareemporter3096 Ай бұрын
They want feedback with the survey and they ask about every aspect including the paint system. You should voice opinions there as well.
@jam201984
@jam201984 22 күн бұрын
Have u made a video saying they changed it now??
@gssquizzy
@gssquizzy Ай бұрын
its not a one time use for paint. you just need to have one for each piece you want to paint ( head, body mark, back etc) as far as i can tell it stays and can be reused
@FlamespeedyAMV
@FlamespeedyAMV Ай бұрын
I played the beta and loved it, tried the last test today and really am demotivated completely on playing this when it comes out
@gbrlsho6069
@gbrlsho6069 Ай бұрын
Oh my god what they have done to the game I waited so long for
@Chikage773
@Chikage773 Ай бұрын
Will the game have a trading system? Thats greatly help people pass the monetization of warframe, because if they dont, its over with for people that play this. Im not playing it.
@mysticwolf420
@mysticwolf420 Ай бұрын
I'm glad the paint isint staying this way they already stated
@antoniosangermano8834
@antoniosangermano8834 Ай бұрын
So in 1st beta coloring was free, now you need to pay to color?
@AnimByBmXu
@AnimByBmXu 22 күн бұрын
They took out the rng dyes for cosmetics in a recent dev q&a, tg
@Crevanclaw
@Crevanclaw Ай бұрын
I played most of the tests/betas, loved the gameplay. So of course I'm gonna try it. But I can't say if I'll stay or not. It really depends on A: if and how much caliper I can earn in the game regularly, and B: changing the color system. If A is true and it's decent then Bisn'tt as bad, but I'd still want them at least to make the colors permanent vs 1x use.
@brandondean9040
@brandondean9040 Ай бұрын
This is just wrong info I mean purely wrong the color system is jacked and needs to be re worked but you don’t need 8-9 colors for one outfit you need 2 one for the helmet and one for the body I tested it when I played the beta got several colors I could color all parts of the body with 1 color and all parts of a helmet with 1 color so 2 technically 4 if you count backpack/chest Again this system is bad and I hope they fix it but you can paint the entire body with the same 1 color you get and can reuse it on the same outfit/skin as much as you want
@lostgamer9614
@lostgamer9614 Ай бұрын
How did they screw this up?? The cross play beta showed off how you'd earn paints and such and gave so much promise but this is a nightmare
@Vonalray
@Vonalray Ай бұрын
They are removing the RNG feature from paints.
@alexisalvarez2330
@alexisalvarez2330 Ай бұрын
Didn't they change this?
@MasterAarott
@MasterAarott 26 күн бұрын
They have back tracked the paint gacha due to overwhelming negative reception, according to the latest dev stream.
@stevesutton2458
@stevesutton2458 14 күн бұрын
If you are fruity enough to buy colors on a video game then they deserve all of your money
@belladonnasbat5816
@belladonnasbat5816 11 күн бұрын
Are you a moron? Tell me a live service game that doesn't sell customization...
@jacksonmcload4157
@jacksonmcload4157 Ай бұрын
I'm still gonna check it out and see if it hold my interest if not I'm out. That inventory system in particular can suck it.
@electro_statyk9794
@electro_statyk9794 2 күн бұрын
Knowing now that I have to literally pay for very skin and to customize my character I don’t have any desire to play anymore, when I herd it was free to play I was expecting to earn in game loot to get skins and components.
@The.DeViL.himself369
@The.DeViL.himself369 Ай бұрын
too many red flags for one dam game its get a nope from me
@Kordellll
@Kordellll Ай бұрын
Thought you were going to talk about KZfaq monetization
@MarcoC.130
@MarcoC.130 Ай бұрын
Good golly gee! Those skins costs 750 premium currencies?!
@shawndbr2423
@shawndbr2423 Ай бұрын
im guessing its gonna be 7$
@taylorsps12
@taylorsps12 Ай бұрын
@@shawndbr2423 my guess too. battlepass premium was 2k. and battle pass is pretty generally accepted at 20$. so like. 2k for 20$ seems like the number for me. puts premium *prime* warframe clone bundle at 50$. equal to warframe so sounds right to me price wise.
@lelandhall6440
@lelandhall6440 Ай бұрын
Honestly if look at vindictus you'll get idea of whats in going to be in this game
@JustRuda
@JustRuda Ай бұрын
Nah, after 5 years in black dessert there's nothing to surprise me anymore :D I'm quite looking forward to the game, I see a lot of Destiny 2 in it which I used to enjoy before it went to Steam and some changes buried the game in my eyes...
@Aszourus
@Aszourus Ай бұрын
not only is paint random, you get one and its for 1 armor part only
@Ninjutsu2K
@Ninjutsu2K Ай бұрын
Nice video. In my perspective, how I play games, I never care about appearance, this game will have absolute zero money from my in skins and everything that is just cosmetic. But about bundles of materials etc, depending on coast and benefits of the price I could buy a few in while.
@francopannacottta3751
@francopannacottta3751 9 күн бұрын
Wait... 1,500 paid currency for battel pass and 25,000 for inventory max??? Isn't that slightly unbalanced?? Maybe 25.000/10 ? I'm guessing that the battel pass doesn't only cost 1.50 $ but rather 15 $.... Now you can imagine how much the inventory costs...
@Samie_Ikigai
@Samie_Ikigai Ай бұрын
The game was super fun last beta and i was really going to look forward to this. After logging in to the beta and playing a little i ended up seeing the story, the RNG color mechanic etc and i havent played it since. This completely ruins it. I dont support games that do this sort of stuff. Make money a reasonable way instead of trying to milk your players. This is unacceptable in any sort of game.
@craigharrison1838
@craigharrison1838 3 күн бұрын
I can now speak for UK economy here, Caliber: 250 - £3.99 1060 - £15.99 2750 - £39.99 3920- £57.99 5750 - £79.99 It's not too far off Warframe, but definitely more.
@tweech2000000
@tweech2000000 Ай бұрын
I was just telling my bro how i just like the gun play and class abilities
@heelenavr6395
@heelenavr6395 Ай бұрын
for vindictus players (also nexon) the gacha coloring isnt something new. tho you could atleast trade and sell the finished colors. dont know how it will be in this game.
@Tenken77
@Tenken77 4 күн бұрын
Why do you put a question mark at the end of EVERY sentence?! WHY?
@skydream_7749
@skydream_7749 Ай бұрын
Sorry for english google😂 I think we need to focus on what is useful for us in the game and drop the colors, at worst buy a skin for your character and that's it, besides being a free too play it's up to us how much you want invest at the beginning .50. 60 70, or 80 euros, because yes it must win over the developers.
@ZERONI7
@ZERONI7 Ай бұрын
I could've sworn the colors in the beta weren't one time use no? Initial beta I mean, I haven't kept up with the game for months.
@xd_13oss_xd92
@xd_13oss_xd92 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait play this game
@IMHymn-zx3bj
@IMHymn-zx3bj Ай бұрын
We gotta see how much the premium currency is before we judge
@Robbyboy8359
@Robbyboy8359 Ай бұрын
No
@IMHymn-zx3bj
@IMHymn-zx3bj Ай бұрын
@Robbyboy8359 no what, add some context to that buddy
@tratamarack441
@tratamarack441 5 күн бұрын
My expectations were low, but goddamn i'm still disappointed.
@Richard1976
@Richard1976 15 күн бұрын
I reckon 1500 for battle pass would cost you approx €12.50 to €15 when seeing other games. So 3000 for pack €25 to 30. So approx €40 to €50 for the 5000 pack.
@travisconway9059
@travisconway9059 Ай бұрын
Game plays and looks decent not bad overall
@KyuzoGM
@KyuzoGM 2 күн бұрын
A copy of Destiny and Warframe combined. Enemies are highly similar to destiny and the monetisation is even more aggresive, systems are very similar to warframe but in comparison imagine that Orokin Reactors and Catalyst would cost 1200platinum instead of 20, plus theres no 75% discount daily popups.
@abso9639
@abso9639 Ай бұрын
the characters look pretty cool, sux that thay made the monetization this way but if we get free updates then its completely fine. Being someone that has put 2k hours into destiny 2 I don't want to pay 300$ just to play the game and its whole content.
@joshnalley1599
@joshnalley1599 4 күн бұрын
its free plus you can earn stuff in game and dont have to buy anything i think its gonna be good if your gonna worry about color then in my opinion your playing it wrong of course it aint warframe its the first decescendent i think i would just buy a skin instead of worrying about paint if buying anything also people are saying around they are taking out the color thing i mean the whole game is free most gaames now cost 70 dollars not including there add ons thats 100 or more sometimes
@ShadowWind82
@ShadowWind82 18 күн бұрын
In warframe you can have donate coins from other players for selling game resources that you farm. This game is party base, not solo...so ftp will look at this and say buy buy to the game (its about 90%). So the game will be dead in a month.
@js100serch
@js100serch 6 күн бұрын
One of the aspects of Asian monetization schemes that angers me the most is that I can't just pay for what I want. They make it too complicated, convoluted and confusing.
@Kordellll
@Kordellll Ай бұрын
Looks like anthem
@kurosanyasuke8236
@kurosanyasuke8236 Ай бұрын
Hopefully it is only for Beta purposes. I hope it’s not pay to win
@FlamespeedyAMV
@FlamespeedyAMV Ай бұрын
it will be worse come launch
@joulevette22
@joulevette22 Ай бұрын
Pfff it will be but worse to see how many ppl will spend on the first 2 weeks
@reapersasmr5483
@reapersasmr5483 5 күн бұрын
I bought 115 in xbox cards.. and thats the most I am spending day 1 .. as most games are 100 bucks that's my limit for this.. thats only if I can buy Freya day 1 .. and stash space . Don't care about colors or outfits
@falcon9ner
@falcon9ner Ай бұрын
i bet you all try this game
@BetterChoicesNeeded
@BetterChoicesNeeded 4 күн бұрын
Player choice and customization are the bane of live services and micro transaction, that’s why they want everyone getting used to relying on RNG instead of just giving players the power, remember how advanced black ops emblem customization used to be !? We’d never get that nowadays cuz then we wouldn’t buy the emblems they come Up with and sell
@EZ0
@EZ0 Ай бұрын
Pass. I'll just wait for Duet Night Abyss.
@RM-dn6nl
@RM-dn6nl Ай бұрын
I wanted to play but no connection on ps5 😑
@kevonwalker92
@kevonwalker92 Ай бұрын
Pc only I believe
@sunalita
@sunalita Ай бұрын
holly graphics
@sirpiggythe3rd135
@sirpiggythe3rd135 Ай бұрын
Watched the first 3 mins of the video, my honest reaction: NAH FAM, I’M GOOD
@pwnomega4562
@pwnomega4562 2 күн бұрын
the game has dropped and the total caliber that you mention in the video to max out inventory wouls set you back about 450 USD. absolutely ridiculous... I'm looking at the skin packs in relation to the caliber packs give just under the value if you wanted to buy a skin. so the 10 dollar back gives 520 Caliber while most of the skin packs cost 750, requiring you to buy the next caliber pack priced at 20 USD giving 1060 caliber which gives you more than enough for that one skin pack leaving you with about 300 caliber left. and then there's the evolved skin packs that ask for 1900 caliber which logically requires you to buy the 50 dollar caliber pack that give 2750 caliber though you could just buy two of the packs that give 1060 caliber. putting you at just barely enough to purchase an evolved skin pack while costing 40 USD instead of 50\ so basically they are pricing things just barely too much for one caliber pack and just barely not enough for the next caliber pack. typical nexon bs why am i surprised...
@jupiter5311
@jupiter5311 Ай бұрын
they shoulda jus sold colors and deluxe/skins for chasrcters n weapons ):
@MrDANGEROUS0
@MrDANGEROUS0 Ай бұрын
And what about the market? Can we buy and sell items, colors and with coins? Like warframe This will save the game.
@GMLubu195
@GMLubu195 Ай бұрын
See you lost me like 30sec in when you said Nexon lol
@wn5364
@wn5364 Ай бұрын
The earlier beta was great, now I'm turned off. Will give it a shot but already convinced it's shit
@bobbybushe2389
@bobbybushe2389 Ай бұрын
darn..😊
@Lonedude1111
@Lonedude1111 20 күн бұрын
Don’t jump the gun guys. They are changing a lot of things before release. 🤷‍♂️
@Alex_Aly
@Alex_Aly 2 күн бұрын
warframe 1999 ( artur and aoi and more )
@Richard1976
@Richard1976 15 күн бұрын
Games like this will kill themselves. I reckon prices for costumes will cost a fortune. Pretty much like black desert online
@inutz7043
@inutz7043 25 күн бұрын
Its nexon. What do we expect 😂. Im still gonna chrck the gamr but godthis eill be dead in few onths
@TheNecroArk
@TheNecroArk Ай бұрын
Nothing new with nexon games vindictus had the same paid shop gacha system for everything cosmetic hated the system
@silentking7437
@silentking7437 Ай бұрын
i think ill stick to warframe atleast they dont try as hard to get people to buy shit
@FlamespeedyAMV
@FlamespeedyAMV Ай бұрын
yet
@MagikarpMan
@MagikarpMan Ай бұрын
​@@FlamespeedyAMV My brother in Christ warframe is 10 years old, if there was a "yet" it'd've happened by now
@DEE_MYZE
@DEE_MYZE Ай бұрын
i wouldnt have expected any less from Nexon. thus i put 0 expectations on this game from the moment it was announced. Whales will love it, everyone else will move on within a month or two. is what it is.
@taylorsps12
@taylorsps12 Ай бұрын
because.. of colors? lol. which are also farmable for free btw. and with current store prices look like its just under a $ per color.. if you really want to whale that
@saintsaber8491
@saintsaber8491 3 күн бұрын
It's FREE TO PLAY so just play it and make your own mind up and DON'T listen to youtubers it's THEIR opinion.
@rerdak4334
@rerdak4334 Ай бұрын
I couldn't care less about gacha if it's JUST for cosmetics. Anyone complaining about it is just coping at this point. Let's thank the gaming gods if TFD ends up being actually good, without any (other) gacha/p2w mechanics
@Lex-ep5qr
@Lex-ep5qr Ай бұрын
Hell naaah. Definitely never gonna play this game.
@joulevette22
@joulevette22 Ай бұрын
We all know it was to good to be true about this game WOW Nexon you just killed your game with this system why is it your greed always ruins it
@johnjohnson6280
@johnjohnson6280 Ай бұрын
Yeaaaaaah no thank you
@maxrosefoxanime7225
@maxrosefoxanime7225 Ай бұрын
The game a walking red flag with the marketing but i prove still play it but it a little werid how heavy market this game is
@belladonnasbat5816
@belladonnasbat5816 11 күн бұрын
Why is it weird...
@joshua7426
@joshua7426 16 күн бұрын
Paint system was completely changed as was most all monetization after last test so entire video is irrelevant
@unknownvergo9516
@unknownvergo9516 7 күн бұрын
Proof?
@unknownvergo9516
@unknownvergo9516 7 күн бұрын
Proof?
@joshua7426
@joshua7426 7 күн бұрын
@@unknownvergo9516 their website and discord
@R0n810
@R0n810 3 күн бұрын
I buy all skins 😍😍
@unclewawa
@unclewawa Ай бұрын
nope now i feel i should go buy something from warframe to make up watching what ever red flag this is
@Bleezy453
@Bleezy453 25 күн бұрын
“warframe like” lmao no
@boatmannyc5145
@boatmannyc5145 Ай бұрын
just imagine. Now is the best time to be playing FD and the only reason why is that they are gonna ruin it with monetization on actual release. hope one day we can get something like FD but in non-gacha, no-live-service, no-nonsence form
@EZ0
@EZ0 Ай бұрын
Nexon = big NO 🚩
@steveh7508
@steveh7508 Ай бұрын
Ya get color mats from capping a character each time , did ya even play end game
@user-lo8es4co1i
@user-lo8es4co1i 26 күн бұрын
thank you for convincing me not to buy this game i appreciate it.
@drakethdarkbane7194
@drakethdarkbane7194 Ай бұрын
I got as far as inventory slots, and youve already convinced me to remove this game from my list.
@number0017
@number0017 Ай бұрын
After reading some comments....he ended up been dead wrong. He didn't do much homework and just rush through things without checking. There other KZfaqrs with a better explanation and more details.
@themetal6216
@themetal6216 2 күн бұрын
its definitly pay to win and the prices on the store are the worst ive seen in any game.
@pwnomega4562
@pwnomega4562 2 күн бұрын
yeah they've made the items in the shop cost barely too much for one caliber pack and and give you more than you need in the next caliber pack while getting more money out of you and leaving you with a little bit of caliber left to entice you to buy more. everyone been hyping this game up when this is what i've been tryna tell everyone from the start.
@khanghua966
@khanghua966 Ай бұрын
This is crazy money hungry act
@electro_statyk9794
@electro_statyk9794 2 күн бұрын
This game went from a 10 to a 3 for me, you can’t make your character look cool at all without paying so I’m done.
@simonshura9144
@simonshura9144 6 күн бұрын
Not up to date anymore 😂 but ok lil pup
@ArthiosVankrul
@ArthiosVankrul Ай бұрын
Well, i guess ill wait for the pricing reveal, but its not looking so hot... Lets hope theyre microtransactions and not macrotransactions
@mushishi3994
@mushishi3994 Ай бұрын
Another Dead on Arrival game on global release.
@ZRo69
@ZRo69 25 күн бұрын
Can't wait for this game to either flop or only have a couple thousand idiots who play it with their wallets lol.
@belladonnasbat5816
@belladonnasbat5816 11 күн бұрын
Lol get a life.
@andre27stang
@andre27stang Ай бұрын
P2W is about power progression i dont care about color palette go play Black Desert them you will see real P2W.
@therealharshlycritical
@therealharshlycritical Ай бұрын
nexon? no thank you
@shawndbr2423
@shawndbr2423 Ай бұрын
i hope nobody buys stuff so they learn
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