The First Modern Battle - The Battle of Hamel I THE GREAT WAR Week 206

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6 жыл бұрын

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The Battle of Hamel is considered as the first modern battle. Masterminded by Australian general John Monash, it included meticulous planning and integrated tanks, artillery, airplanes and infantry into one cohesive strategy.
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Gilbert, Martin. The First World War. A Complete History, Holt Paperbacks, 2004.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
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@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
Our John Monash episode is a bit delayed, but it should be out next week. Sorry about that.
@teayt1724
@teayt1724 6 жыл бұрын
The Great War Germany, germany, germany.
@maninahal6484
@maninahal6484 6 жыл бұрын
The Great War ok np
@Silvio-ny6uz
@Silvio-ny6uz 6 жыл бұрын
C'mon, nothing to be sorry.
@MyCaptainPugwash
@MyCaptainPugwash 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, he was the most competent general of the war
@richardshort3914
@richardshort3914 6 жыл бұрын
A small point: Technically, his parents were Prussian.
@LittleGoblinBastard
@LittleGoblinBastard 6 жыл бұрын
"We cannot win this war with the military" "I'M TELLING THE KAISER ON YOU!"
@rolanddunk1950
@rolanddunk1950 6 жыл бұрын
Monash was knighted by King George V on the battlefield. It was the first time in 200 years that a British monarch had honoured a commander in such a way............................. British Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery said of Monash: "I would name Sir John Monash as the best general on the western front in Europe".
@3-DtimeCosmology
@3-DtimeCosmology 6 жыл бұрын
rolanddunk1950 Monash
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын
Dude - SPOILERS! Wait a few weeks!
@rolanddunk1950
@rolanddunk1950 6 жыл бұрын
A campaign has been afoot to promote Sir John to field marshal, in recognition for his service on the Western Front in World War I. Unsuccessful for now.
@rolanddunk1950
@rolanddunk1950 6 жыл бұрын
Just to wet the appetite ... you ain't seen nothing yet!
@rictechow310
@rictechow310 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely must happen.
@Aviationlord7742
@Aviationlord7742 6 жыл бұрын
Monash planed for the battle to last for 90 minuets and was disappointed when it lasted 3 minuets longer
@loudstrat5410
@loudstrat5410 6 жыл бұрын
Must have had some slow pommy troops in his ranks!
@ultraranger1286
@ultraranger1286 6 жыл бұрын
Tell him to wait until the 30 min extra time and the penalty shootout
@knackers2773
@knackers2773 6 жыл бұрын
Got caught babysitting
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB 5 жыл бұрын
They let the tea brew for three minutes before declaring victory.
@zlatko8051
@zlatko8051 5 жыл бұрын
Plans don’t survive in contact with the enemy-Moltke
@hlynnkeith9334
@hlynnkeith9334 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of the Battle of Hamel before. Thanks for the education.
@mikhailv67tv
@mikhailv67tv 6 жыл бұрын
h lynn keith Australia contributed enormously to the GW. More than just Gallipoli. John Monash is an Australian hero. Prussian Jewish an Engineer by training, Knighted on the Battlefield.
@xgford94
@xgford94 6 жыл бұрын
This is the episode every Australian was waiting for, the next 100 days is the coming of age of the Australian army
@KonradvonHotzendorf
@KonradvonHotzendorf 9 ай бұрын
Not if I can counterattack
@jimcronin2043
@jimcronin2043 2 жыл бұрын
When the troops at Hamel found that their commanders were taking steps to create new tactics to avoid the suicidal infantry charges it had to have had a tremendous positive effect on morale.
@thadawg0084
@thadawg0084 6 жыл бұрын
The 4th of July 2018 marks 100 years since the battle of Le Hammel. This was the first time Australian and US troops fought side by side. They have done so now in every major conflict since. There are anecdotes that many of the US troops who trained with the Aussies prior to the battle of Le Hammel that felt such affinity with their Australian comrades that when ordered away from the front before the battle, simply put on Australian uniforms.
@robertwight1394
@robertwight1394 6 жыл бұрын
One important omission relating to Hamel was that approx. 1,000 American troops fought alongside the Australians, and indeed under the command of the British Army (Australians) for the very first time, much to the chagrin of General of the Army, "Black Jack" Pershing.
@seanlander9321
@seanlander9321 Жыл бұрын
Pershing and Patton had agreed to provide American troops for the Hamel attack. At the last minute they lost their nerve and ordered their troops to retreat. The 800 Americans who stayed to fight had somehow developed a collective deafness and didn’t hear the coward’s command. After the battle Foch invited Haig and Pershing to a celebration of the victory (All Australians were excluded) even though they had nothing to do with it.
@gloverfox9135
@gloverfox9135 5 ай бұрын
@@seanlander9321Stay mad aussie
@Ashfielder
@Ashfielder 6 жыл бұрын
Wait… the Sultan died? And he was just an extra segment? Blimey.
@x999uuu1
@x999uuu1 6 жыл бұрын
He was a figurehead at this point. The Pashas truly ruled the OE
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 6 жыл бұрын
He was exiled to Salonika after he was finally forced to abdicate , the very same place Young Turk rebellion against his regime began.
@nodinitiative
@nodinitiative 6 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood He basically became just a footnote in someone else's history.
@Ilikeham1000
@Ilikeham1000 6 жыл бұрын
I would just like to thank the team behind this show. I did my dissertation topic on a subject that was heavily intertwined with what you have gone through and it got me a 1st. Thanks lads.
@earthenjadis8199
@earthenjadis8199 6 жыл бұрын
Just to note there were American troops fighting at Hamel as well, some of them under the guidance of Australian NCOs. What they lacked in battlefield experience they made up for with courage under fire and enthusiasm.
@sulate1
@sulate1 2 жыл бұрын
There was supposed to be more but Pershing withdrew 6 companies on the day before the battle.
@kenphillips8074
@kenphillips8074 Жыл бұрын
Pershing was a deplorable person, so typical of americans in power ... my way or no way.
@anthonyeaton5153
@anthonyeaton5153 4 ай бұрын
Just to mention there were British troops artillery tanks aircraft and logistic support at Hamel Oh hum...
@ogaogaboogamba
@ogaogaboogamba 5 жыл бұрын
Get hit by artillery and be awarded medals while delivering chocolate to the Italians. This was modern war.
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 жыл бұрын
Ask not for whom the bell tolls
@tinnturps
@tinnturps 6 жыл бұрын
Monash was a tactical genius!
@wankertosseroath
@wankertosseroath 6 жыл бұрын
One of my supervisors for my masters degree just finished a sculpture of Monash for the Australian War Memorial, in commemoration of the battle of Hamel. There is a ring of text on the base taken from Monash's diary that reads "I am living and moving." It's a really beautiful sculpture, worth having a Google!
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Another trivia: On June 30, XII Greek Regiment mutinies in Servia city’s camp (no relation with Serbia). Some 1000 soldiers deserted to their villages. The regiment was comprised completely of men from Achaea and Elis (Royalist strongholds). Officers were engaged in pro-royalist and anti-war propaganda. Also, the logistics of the unit were deplorable, and the soldiers were given rifles but not ammunition, as they were not trusted. So, they took the ammo by force and deserted. The government’s forces chased the deserters for days. The court-martials which followed resulted in dozens of executions in the next three months. The commander of the unit, Colonel Pantelis Giannetakis was executed, as well, not because he took part in the mutiny, but because of his poor administration, his failure to keep order in the unit and the abandonment of his regiment after the mutiny was unfold.
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Prussian Eagle Bitte!
@kevindong9999
@kevindong9999 6 жыл бұрын
V. Athanasiou Source?
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Dong _"1915: The National Schism"_ of George Mavrogordatos", _"Thessaloniki during WW1"_ of Gabriel Syntomoros and _"History of the Greek Nation" vol. 15,_ by the Academy of Athens
@kevindong9999
@kevindong9999 6 жыл бұрын
V. Athanasiou Cool thanks man
@evanismyname9363
@evanismyname9363 6 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup! I like reading these things ;)
@razor3110
@razor3110 6 жыл бұрын
What I have been waiting for :) it is the Centenary of Mateship (the first time Australian and US troops fight together). My partners great great uncle died in the Battle of Hamel and i visited the battlefield last year. Amazing place! Here in Melbourne so many things are named after Monash and he is on our $100 note. He worked on the Princes Bridge that still stands in Melbourne as well.
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 6 жыл бұрын
My basement flooded... watching The Great War and Terminator helps
@Anacronian
@Anacronian 6 жыл бұрын
Run down and yell at the water: "I'm Conrad von hötzendorf and I'll be back!"
@shrimpboat7565
@shrimpboat7565 6 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones I started watching this series while cleaning my flooded basement last summer
@rataide99
@rataide99 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like your basement is having a taste of Passchaendele
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue 6 жыл бұрын
Oh no, don't mention Hötzendorf; the pump will pack up and go home.
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you're ok!
@rodroper211
@rodroper211 6 жыл бұрын
Monash's Masterpiece: The battle of Le Hamel and the 93 minutes that changed the world Peter FitzSimons
@grogery1570
@grogery1570 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indie can I get a shout out to the 2500 US soldiers who were "Embeded" with the Aussies at Hammel? The date of July 4th was picked as a start date to motivate these men and if Monash is to be believed they and the Aussies considered each other "blood brothers" after this battle. (Ref: Australian victories in France 1918 by John Monash)
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 6 жыл бұрын
John Monash deserves his own documentary! In this diarrhea of a war he was one of the capable and genius leaders of the war. The guys with humble beginnings have been more successful.
@myname7507
@myname7507 2 жыл бұрын
he actually has a school named after him which is pretty cool
@barrythatcher9349
@barrythatcher9349 2 жыл бұрын
@@myname7507 A University - Monash
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 Жыл бұрын
He has his own documentary, and the 1st words of it are “Anzac day, a uniquely Australian day.” It’s an exercise in BS.
@DanielFoland
@DanielFoland 6 жыл бұрын
Great show everyone! And now Mr. Monash is my newest hero. Hope to learn more
@SDJW2016
@SDJW2016 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Great War team, I'm a 16 year old history buff, and I recently discovered not only you guys, but KZfaq as well, I'm trying to catch up on videos, I'm on where Italy declared war, and when hearing the Central Powers ( Austo-German) attack on Psymel[ mind my spelling] being countered by the Russians, and I remembered about a Russian news story talking about the event calling it "Attack of the Dead Men", could you explain more about this. Sincerely SDJW_2016 (Ps, I'm changing my KZfaq channel name to the former)
@SlyPearTree
@SlyPearTree 6 жыл бұрын
I just saw yesterday what you might be talking about on "It's history" : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/geCqopOmt7bFn4U.html
@SDJW2016
@SDJW2016 6 жыл бұрын
SlyPearTree thanks, I'm just trying to have the Great War team to do a Out of the Trenches,
@ericcarlson3746
@ericcarlson3746 6 жыл бұрын
wow you were 12 when this all started. welcome aboard!
@mikoajbachosz3673
@mikoajbachosz3673 4 жыл бұрын
"Psymel"? You mean Przemyśl?
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikoajbachosz3673 I cringed at that one as well
@timn6864
@timn6864 5 жыл бұрын
I recently finished reading "Monashes Masterpiece" By Peter Fitzsimons. Excellent book on the batlle of Hamel
@blumie006
@blumie006 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Fitzsimons is just a dirty communist
@jai4085
@jai4085 6 жыл бұрын
YEAH MONASH!🇦🇺
@El_Guapo74
@El_Guapo74 6 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me with how unsafe 100 year old industry really was. 5:51 you got a guy operating a massive power hammer with no PPE
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 6 жыл бұрын
What really killed civilians during that time was contagious disease: tuberculosis, typhoid, smallpox, rheumatic fever, ... Infant and child mortality were falling, but they were still high by today's standards, and so many promising or accomplished adults were felled by disease.
@krillissue
@krillissue 6 жыл бұрын
+Steve Kaczynski Ah...that weirdly explains some of kafka's literature
@shermanator87
@shermanator87 2 жыл бұрын
Both Sir John Monash and this particular millitary battle should be so much more well known and talked about. It's so obvious to us nowadays to use all your capabilities at the same time in a ccoordinated effort. But some bloke had to actually come up with that and use it for the first time. Why don't all historians talk about this!
@pshehan1
@pshehan1 6 жыл бұрын
It should be mentioned that Monash planned the attack for July 4 in honour of the Americans under his command who were to take part. When Pershing found out the day before that the Americans were to take part in an offensive, rather than just gaining a bit of trench experience, he tried to have them withdrawn. He succeeded in having those in reserve removed, but Monash turned the Nelsonian blind eye with regard to those ready to go in the front line. Pershing was no doubt surprised when he was congratulated for the performance of the Americans after the battle.
@henrypulleine8750
@henrypulleine8750 4 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. He planned the attack for 2nd July. It was only when Sinclair-Mclagan the (British) commander of the 4th Australian Division requested two further days preparation that the date was changed. The date change being approved by Gen Sir Henry Rawlinson- overall commander of the operation.
@lloydster9000
@lloydster9000 6 жыл бұрын
There's a forest preserve in Shorewood, Illinois, named after Hamel (although it's been anglicized to "Hammel"). As far as I can tell, there were a lot of soldiers who joined up from that area of Will County who served at Hamel and, upon returning home, the woods that became the preserve reminded them of the woods around Hamel.
@LtKharn
@LtKharn 6 жыл бұрын
3:48 ow!
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 6 жыл бұрын
Guys, I have a feeling that Germany might lose.
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 6 жыл бұрын
Prussian Eagle thank you for reassuring me in the Kaiserreich's victory.
@MrCordycep
@MrCordycep 6 жыл бұрын
That is because you are a defeatist!
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 6 жыл бұрын
Burn the communist agitator!
@DylanDude
@DylanDude 6 жыл бұрын
How? The Allies are so far from Berlin!
@wilstjb3122
@wilstjb3122 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. It's Germany's war to win, but if the allies finally smarten up and run a 20th century war, well, anything could happen.
@AaronFromGuildford
@AaronFromGuildford Ай бұрын
I love history. How has this channel not been suggested to me these past 5 years??
@jonwebb6644
@jonwebb6644 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the best generals in the war were ones I never heard of.
@yellowjackboots2624
@yellowjackboots2624 6 жыл бұрын
Big Indy has an on-screen charisma that other historians and presenters can only dream of. Keep it up, my man!
@lachd2261
@lachd2261 6 жыл бұрын
AJP Taylor also called Monash the best general of the war.
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 6 жыл бұрын
Monash may be the first commander to use modern combined arms warfare.
@RmZD
@RmZD 6 жыл бұрын
Is that not what the episode is about?
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 6 жыл бұрын
RmZD Indeed. I'm putting it like that because I won't say that there weren't anyone who experimented with it before, but it seems he was the first to embrace it completely.
@canicheenrage
@canicheenrage 6 жыл бұрын
Contrary to the UK and Italy, which favored strategic bombing, the ww1 french air force was focused on battlefield support from 1916 on. Recon, strafing, target designation. Barring the independant division aérienne. As for the 60 tank spearheads, Estienne theorised it before. First modern british battle, sure. First ? Looks like another dubious claim.
@scotiabushcraft9570
@scotiabushcraft9570 6 жыл бұрын
No. That would be Arthur Currie, who developed the creeping barrage. This is a misleading video because it misunderstands what modern warfare is really about (and focuses too much on the appearance of total warfare in WWII). Combined arms is merely one element while the form itself is much more complex. Arthur Currie also perfected shock troops and created the modern military structure which allowed for combined arms. The significance of these changes cannot be understated. The creeping barrage acted both as a shield for the troops and suppression of the machine gunners. The Germans tend to see this in the same way, with true modern tactics developing from the Somme into 1917. And Vimy is where modern tactics truly arose on the Allied side with artillery, tanks, planes, tunnel mines, gas, trench raiding, etc. It was the major victory of the war and arguably the turning point. Throughout 1917 and into 1918 he initiated several other developments, perhaps most notably the mass camouflage and diversion techniques which made the Amiens assault possible. But also in 1917, multiple formation attacks and countering the new German defensive doctrine. Watch this to see how the changes developed (around 13:00 but the whole thing is interesting): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7ukhM-JktqceGg.html
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын
No, Currie didn't develop the Creeping Barrage, the British Artillery Officers had been experimenting with it for years. And also No - Monash didn't invent the Blitzkrieg either - sorry fellow Aussies. Look at what Monash did. His minute to the nth degree planning was to capture and hold specific targets/positions/lines. Blitzkrieg was all about devastating and overwhelming firepower (air and artillery) on specif points to smash a hole and pour fast lighter armour through to cutoff and surround pockets of resistance as fast as possible. The use of tanks, air and artillery is the common denominator but its a very different tactic and philosophy.
@James--Parker
@James--Parker 6 жыл бұрын
Von Kuhlmann is crazy. Germany can totally win this with a military soultion. They are going to make a big break through any day now. 100 years from now everyone will laugh at how stupid he is, and the German empire will celebrate the fact his foolishness didn't happen. I can feel it :-D
@theenigmaencoder92
@theenigmaencoder92 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, the entente powers our gaining in strength...
@nekman8521
@nekman8521 6 жыл бұрын
But france is in its last legs
@goktugcengiz1717
@goktugcengiz1717 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, France will surrender. It will be just like 1870 guys, just wait and see. Any day now. Germany will break through.
@DeathOnSernpidal
@DeathOnSernpidal 6 жыл бұрын
France is still in a better position than Germany's allies. Also, France's war production actually peaked in 1918.
@fat1fared
@fat1fared 6 жыл бұрын
Death: I think that is the joke.
@Dracomarine
@Dracomarine 6 жыл бұрын
Great work Indy, been following from the start! Pretty cool to see the start of Combined Arms fighting!
@MyCaptainPugwash
@MyCaptainPugwash 6 жыл бұрын
Please also note that the man who mostly didnt want him to assume command was one Keith Murdoch, that family has for to long tried to direct world politics.
@nutsandgum
@nutsandgum 6 жыл бұрын
Half of Melbourne named after the man and he's on the 100dollar bill. Suck it Murdoch!
@markhume3503
@markhume3503 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Bean later recognised and acknowledged Monash's talent, Murdoch didn't.
@ericcarlson3746
@ericcarlson3746 6 жыл бұрын
I've visited the stunning war memorial in Melbourne. And indeed monash is well honored in that area
@JoshuaVanneck
@JoshuaVanneck Жыл бұрын
Amazing ! Gives an insight of Ludendorff ignoring reality, and all too conscious of the promises and assurances that he cannot deliver. So much for Prussian efficiency.
@MrSegrist
@MrSegrist 6 жыл бұрын
This episode was great! Indy swiftly covered many interesting topics in a comprehensive and erudite fashion. I especially liked hearing about the first successful in-action parachute survivor. I will have to research that pilot to see what happened to him following his history-making event. Everything after that must have felt somewhat like bonus time.
@thebenis3157
@thebenis3157 6 жыл бұрын
Mehmed VI after the war was exiled in a town in Italy called "Sanremo". That happens to be the town where I live in, very famous in Italy, mostly because of the local music festival held every year that goes on national tv and is always the most watched program, and the old Sultan's house, called Villa Magnolie, is now the school I go to
@seanlander9321
@seanlander9321 Жыл бұрын
After Hamel, Foch put on a celebration of the victory that excluded any Australians. Haig and Pershing were the guests of honour despite them having nothing to do with the whole stunt.
@1969Risky
@1969Risky 6 жыл бұрын
Hamel was the first time during World War I that elements of the American Expeditionary Force were commanded operationally by non-American officers. Pershing objected regarding Monash to command US troops in the field & has been the only foreign general to do so. Pershing did withdraw 6 US Companies but other US troops disobeyed the order & fought with the Australians.
@wizofoz0605
@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Some of the Americans donned Aussie uniforms. so, not only commanded by 'foreigners', but fought in 'foreign' uniforms.
@larrypatchett3474
@larrypatchett3474 2 жыл бұрын
Great premise to your series. As a fellow who has written "time machine" news stories myself, I can appreciate how difficult it can be to write within the moment in time you are visiting. Nice work.
@1funkyangel
@1funkyangel 6 жыл бұрын
One of your best episodes Indy and crew !! 😁
@wach9191
@wach9191 6 жыл бұрын
Another great episode. Well done!
@scottklocke891
@scottklocke891 6 жыл бұрын
für der Grosse Krieg: Bravo Zulu
@Roronoa79
@Roronoa79 6 жыл бұрын
Mehmed V dying is making me realize there is a huge lack of Ottoman "WHO DID WHAT" specials except for the one on Ataturk. I would love to see specials on guys like the Pashas and Mehmed V and VI, even if the latter two were comparatively irrelevant.
@x999uuu1
@x999uuu1 6 жыл бұрын
one on enver is needed. After all, hes the one who got the OE involved
@cisco3111
@cisco3111 6 жыл бұрын
For the next nation special on who did what in WW1 perhaps do Southern Rhodesia in WW1?
@anthonyeaton5153
@anthonyeaton5153 4 ай бұрын
Boy that sounds interesting! NOT!
@periodicpenguin9767
@periodicpenguin9767 6 жыл бұрын
How has everyone’s day been?
@assaultguy859
@assaultguy859 6 жыл бұрын
It’s been great, how about you?
@James--Parker
@James--Parker 6 жыл бұрын
Better than the dudes in the trenches.
@DarkLight181100
@DarkLight181100 6 жыл бұрын
Shite tbh
@garcalej
@garcalej 6 жыл бұрын
It's ok. A bit boring, though.
@victorbruant389
@victorbruant389 6 жыл бұрын
Exhausting, thanks for asking, yours?
@killzoneisa
@killzoneisa 6 жыл бұрын
I watch the commemorate centenary for this battle on ABC and i was waiting to see you post of the battle.
@jeddbanks1183
@jeddbanks1183 6 жыл бұрын
thanks to The Great War for another fantastic episode
@rictechow310
@rictechow310 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Indie! I have been waiting for Hamel.
@billhuber2964
@billhuber2964 6 жыл бұрын
Another well done episode .congrats👍👍👍
@shilohmonroe-donovan
@shilohmonroe-donovan 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I've switched allegiances now from the Central Powers to the Allies.
@MRFlackAttack1
@MRFlackAttack1 6 жыл бұрын
The smoke shells had another purpose besides obscuring the advance, in the weeks leading up to the attack the artillery had been including gas shells with smoke shells in a rate of about 1/9 of gas/smoke(if I remember correctly). This was given the name “conditioning fire”. It’s results was that on the day of the attack, many Germans were hindered by wearing gas masks, which reduced their accuracy and made it more difficult to breath.
@RobertPage562
@RobertPage562 6 жыл бұрын
Once again another great episode
@lmnisop5516
@lmnisop5516 6 жыл бұрын
I believe the Battle of Hamel was the first time (and only time in this war) that US troops were commanded by a non-American. Pershing tried to get all the troops removed from the battle but some still fought. I'm not sure why though.
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын
Kind of - Monash said that if you (Pershing) take the last 4 companies of extra strength US troops then I'm calling the entire attack off. Rawlinson backed him up and Pershing allowed the Companies to be used.
@knackers2773
@knackers2773 6 жыл бұрын
David Read you his book ay ? There were other battles that he led the Americans behind the scene. With Pershing rubbing his nose against European commanders his own Generals were not the same if someone like Monash offered help you sat down and listen.
@wizofoz0605
@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын
@@OldFellaDave No. Incorrect. Pershing never conceded. They just didn't tell him till after the fact.
@MrJovank
@MrJovank 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes!
@Robert.72
@Robert.72 6 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that this battle of Le Hamel was not more commemorated last week on it's centenary in Australia, being Monash's perfect battle. Also, the integration of American and Australian forces which made it happen. I'm recalling the importance that it had as recalled in the 1964 BBC Great War doco series..
@Jack6Davis
@Jack6Davis 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for thus great video
@ianb4801
@ianb4801 20 күн бұрын
You missed something about that pre-attack barrage. In the weeks leading up to the attack, Monash had his artillery send over regular barrages composed of both smoke and poison gas so when the attack happened, many the German defenders were wearing gas masks and couldn't shoot back effectively. Then there were Monash's murder squads, designed to completely unnerve the German soldiers in their trenches to the extent they were afraid to sleep.
@cullmancreations
@cullmancreations 6 жыл бұрын
Really awesome. Just Visited Hamel 3 days ago
@rabihrac
@rabihrac 6 жыл бұрын
"The Allies showed a real cooperative spirit and a collective arrangement" (5:50) that contrasts with, let's say, the organization of the German Military Mission to the Ottoman Empire and the numerous small but real clashes between the militaries of both sides (Jerusalem, Turkey...), the most important of which being on the road to Tiflis in the Caucasus (see The French Counter Attack At Matz I THE GREAT WAR Week 203). Now this inspires me a question for OOTT !
@drpapa26
@drpapa26 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of people tried to prevent John Monash from advancing through the ranks. But one of the few who kept vouching for him in 1914 so he eventually got his first command was actually general sir Ian Hamilton, the guy who famously bungled up the Gallipoli campaign in 1915. History is never neat and tidy.
@rabihrac
@rabihrac 6 жыл бұрын
Waw... Indy you talked so well about shortages, injustice and low industrial level economy levels that lead to mass starvation of peoples that, indeed, your description fits 100% the harsh reality of the Ottoman province of Mount-Lebanon !
@jeffveraart2695
@jeffveraart2695 4 жыл бұрын
For two weeks before the battle artillery fired smoke, HE and gas at the same time every night. German troops got used to putting on gas masks as a routine. On the night of the attack at the same time, artillery only fired smoke and HE in preparation. The Germans put on their gas masks as usual which greatly hampered their fighting ability and defense.
@overheardatthepub1238
@overheardatthepub1238 6 жыл бұрын
Indy and crew... A tour of the set and all props would be very interesting. And easy content.
@Panzer4F2
@Panzer4F2 6 жыл бұрын
Quintal ? According to Wikipedia, the quintal or centner is a historical unit of mass in many countries which is usually defined as 100 base units of either pounds or kilograms. It is commonly used for grain prices in wholesale markets in India, where 1 quintal = 100 kg.[1] In British English, it referred to the hundredweight; in American English, it formerly referred to an uncommon measure of 100 kilograms.
@markhume3503
@markhume3503 6 жыл бұрын
Monash was not knighted in the field. He was knighted in the Kings New Year's honours of January 1918. It was for leadership of 3rd Australian Division in 1917. The King did visit him at his HQ to invest him but it was not on the battlefield. For a balanced view of Monash and Hamel watch Aaron Pegram's talk on the AWM KZfaq channel.
@wizofoz0605
@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incorrect. Monash was knighted at his french HQ by the king. Literally 'in the field'. There are even photographs of the event.
@markhume3503
@markhume3503 2 жыл бұрын
@@wizofoz0605 he was knighted in the New Years honours list of January 1918 and was entitled to be called Sir John. You can look it up in the Gazzette notices if you like. He was invested in the field and yes there are pictures even moving ones. All for a balanced view of Monash and get rid of this outsider who won the war bollocks.
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Monash is definition of "jack-of-all-trades"
@rowanshole
@rowanshole Жыл бұрын
If Pershing hadnt pulled 6 of the 10 American companies he attempted to pull from the battlle of Homel the day before it commenced Monash would probably have wrapped the battle up in the timeframe he had alotted it, and not the 3 extra minutes it took. Just a thought.
@334outdoors8
@334outdoors8 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see this channel go on to the aftermath of the war like the Russian civil war
@joao_1986
@joao_1986 6 жыл бұрын
No, for that go to Timeghosts. There they have a series called (betwen the wars) it has all that infomation : )
@themirror8994
@themirror8994 6 жыл бұрын
About those parachutes.. arent they a bit stupid? i mean, dangerous things like that will never be used for military operations, that would be madness. *Right?*
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest there wasn't a single successful parachute operation.
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 6 жыл бұрын
Prussian Eagle *Giant casualties intensify*
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 6 жыл бұрын
Papa Йоська operation weserubung (german invasion of norway)
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 6 жыл бұрын
Andrés The Royal Marine It's Norway.
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 6 жыл бұрын
Papa Йоська Operation Weserübung (German invasion of Norway). It`s actually like that.
@ur2c8
@ur2c8 6 жыл бұрын
The explosion was at the National Shell Filling Factory, Chilwell, Nottingham. The remains of the unidentifiable bodies are buried in the churchyard at St Mary's, Attenborough.
@7thsealord888
@7thsealord888 10 ай бұрын
Hamel was a great triumph for Monash and the Australian troops. Pretty much EVERY harsh lesson they had learned in preceding years of the war came into play.
@anthonyeaton5153
@anthonyeaton5153 6 ай бұрын
There were also British troops and also `French and Canadian troop at Hamel. Most of all there was almost perfect artillery which was the real Victor. Remember artillery takes the ground infantry occupy it. It was an artillery war.
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 5 жыл бұрын
No suprise that an Australian was the smartest commander during WW1. When Aussie commanders were allowed free reign. They very rarely failed 😈
@mundanenames9752
@mundanenames9752 4 жыл бұрын
Sir john monash is my great uncle and he was really smart according to my auntie
@MrButch-ls8vl
@MrButch-ls8vl 4 жыл бұрын
It didn't hurt that he was Jewish, too.
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrButch-ls8vl Jewish Scottish Irish his culture wouldn't have changed the fact of how intelligent and brilliant he was at battlefield innovation he was. I'm sure his Engineering background helped 😉😎😎😎😎
@danielnavarro537
@danielnavarro537 3 жыл бұрын
In this war, desperation is everywhere. At the front lines or even at homes. War affects everyone.
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 6 жыл бұрын
Monash along with Arthur Currie and Edmund Allenby were best commanders of British Commonwealth if not best in Entante along with French D'Esperey (desperate Frankie)
@myradtrust
@myradtrust 2 жыл бұрын
Allenby masterminded the successful lighthorse charge at Beersheeba.
@Adonnus100
@Adonnus100 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes glorious Monash. Strayan pride
@johnquincyadamsthetankengi3680
@johnquincyadamsthetankengi3680 6 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, just chewing some popcorn in anticipation for the Battle of Baku...
@bubbajones5905
@bubbajones5905 6 жыл бұрын
Given the wide spread arrogance and bigotry in the British upper class at this time, it is amazing that Monash’s genius was ever utilized.
@angloirishcad
@angloirishcad 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it was utilised and Rawlinson and Haig deserve credit for delegating to and promoting the ideas of Monash and Currie
@henrypulleine8750
@henrypulleine8750 4 жыл бұрын
In point of fact Monash was championed by Haig as his protege, very much against the wishes of some Australians who preferred Brudenell White.
@michaelhayden5264
@michaelhayden5264 2 жыл бұрын
You can visit the scene of the Battle of Hamel, even some of the trenches. I recommend it to all visitors to the Western Front.
@budmeister
@budmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Nice preview to WW2.
@theodoros9428
@theodoros9428 4 жыл бұрын
Τhe Hemingway's novel farewell in arms is about this period of time In a charter described the execusion Italian's deserters
@willkp50
@willkp50 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the episode on the Battle of Amiens
@AlanDeAnda1
@AlanDeAnda1 6 жыл бұрын
Will Kirkpatrick That will be the inflextion point, I can feel it.
@creesr
@creesr 6 жыл бұрын
I am bet that we are close to finish.. Looking forward for the outcome. No spoilers please. I think that after this it was smooth sailing from here to this day. Btw i'm from Finland.
@gogogeedus
@gogogeedus 6 жыл бұрын
Monash was a great general may be dependent on your perspective, if you were a victim of his strategy you might not agree.but then I guess he really did make a difference, all you need is a plan sometimes to break the stalemate.
@IceWolfLoki
@IceWolfLoki 6 жыл бұрын
If you were a victim of his strategy you have the benefits of it being over quick and a higher chance of being captured alive. Quick advance under mechanised support, breakthrough the lines and surround the enemy strongpoints.
@joezephyr
@joezephyr 6 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to this channel in June 1914 :) and have been an avid fan ever since. I am thoroughly enjoying it. I am NOT looking forward to November! What should Indy's costume be for the WW2 show? I think the police inspector from Foyle's War would do just nicely. .
@starguy321
@starguy321 6 жыл бұрын
Also, the Ottomans had fought 3 years of war before the First World War in the Balkan wars. Also the main Ottoman coal area of Zonguldak had been under Russian blockade while Russia was in the war and there were not enough ships to transport coal from Zonguldak to Constantinople (this was over now.)
@peterkelly1665
@peterkelly1665 6 жыл бұрын
Make Monash a Field Marshal
@steviebradford3451
@steviebradford3451 6 жыл бұрын
The midlands shell explosion was in Nottingham in a place called chilwell
@rippertrain
@rippertrain 6 жыл бұрын
I have nothing intelligent to say. Great vid thumbs up.
@tylersimplot13
@tylersimplot13 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the Hemmingway special is finally coming
@warrenmilford1329
@warrenmilford1329 2 жыл бұрын
Just for folks info, John Monash planned his operation to take 90 minutes for his troops to reach their objective. As Indy said, it took 93 minutes. Probably the only battle in history that has gone so well to plan.
@wanfajar3219
@wanfajar3219 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Indy and team, greeting from Semarang City, Central Java, Indonesia. Maybe you can explain about parachute and airdrops in aircraft fighting at World War 1.
@samoldfield5220
@samoldfield5220 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like to hear more about John Monash, but the only link in this entire series to this Australian icon has been replaced with an ad.
@ricklolkema3340
@ricklolkema3340 6 жыл бұрын
If it isn't a big battle itself then it is the shortages of food that will be the defeat of the central powers.Strange isn't it that it isn't weapons most of the time that decide a war or a long scale battle but food.
@justinbeleski7511
@justinbeleski7511 6 жыл бұрын
And they call it BLITZ CREG
@randomguy-tg7ok
@randomguy-tg7ok 6 жыл бұрын
The Germans had Sitzkrieg, but not Blitzkrieg. They had Bewegungskrieg.
@nekman8521
@nekman8521 6 жыл бұрын
Better than the spanish schläftkrieg
@misterscienceguy
@misterscienceguy 6 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough Blitzkreig wasn't really a thing.
@vinesauceobscurities
@vinesauceobscurities 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if there is a sequel series covering WW2 day by day, either starting 2019, or 2039.
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