You should be on the stage, the next one out of town. Thanks for giving the opportunity to use that outdated joke.

@@rogertrozelle8159 Tough crowd.

945 am for me

8:48 pm!

2:52 am for me, woke up to take a piss and got this

@@anthonymcauliffe9000 where are you, Australia? NZ?

@@uttcftptid4481 Oz man

same

@@LeKerbal at least we get to vibe with the early uploads

Where are you guys? This was posted at 2am where I'm at

@@uttcftptid4481 5am for me I'm in the Carolinas

@@uttcftptid4481 I'm guessing you're western US

Where are you? It's 05:08 in the morning

@@calvinplumley4394 I think it was sarcasm

2 AM here. Is Ian uploading from Finland? 🤔

10 am In Denmark

@@bigby1530 well, must be wednesday evening somewhere on the globe.

I wonder if Ian accidentally said Remington but meant Sharps, as the Sharps carbine was what replaced the Spencer for the cavalry service from 1870 to 1873.

​@@ElCrab wait they replaced the Spencer carbine for a breach loader? Why

@@lambsauce5312: because a breech loading centerfire Springfield rifle is superior to a rimfire Spencer in every way.

@@ElCrab I don't know if I'd say that

@@Pocky311: maybe you wouldn’t but I will. All day. Superior range, superior accuracy, superior stopping power, less prone to mechanical failure when using the properly jacketed cartridge in brass, not copper (as the Army did from 1877 to 1892. The Spencer was only very slightly faster to fire, but this advantage of repeaters is always overblown. The Springfield was able to deliver steady downrange fire, a shot every 4-5 seconds if need be. A Spencer or any other repeater, if the magazine tube is exhausted, must be reloaded in total (which means zero firing for awhile) or reloaded one round at a time and expending that round before loading another. With the Spencer, that means accessing the tube in the buttplate. Not convenient to do, especially when prone. Same for chambering using the lever while prone. The Springfield can be held exactly on target and a new round loaded without any difficult while prone, given the extractor and the breech access being through the top.

What time was it? 2:10 am my time when you made your comment.

Making something simple and elegant is very difficult and generally needs a paradigm-shifting innovation. The first prototype, especially a conversion, has to deal with a lot of problems with no silver-bullet fix. Plus there is selection-bias. If something works great it explodes in popularity while the impractical and expensive experiments fall into obscurity.

@@Nerdnumberone Yes. Typically the first iteration is indeed more complicated because the inventor has a bright idea nobody else has had but can only think of one way to implement it. It takes still more bright people (or time to reflect by the same bright person) to see ways to simplify. As we saw with the string of Austrian pistols Ian recently did a series on, it's far easier to copy than to innovate or simplify.

Do you have a lot of trapdoors in France? I was just reading an article about the M1866 trapdoors that were sold to France in the 1870 timeframe. Have those survived to the extent that you have trapdoor collectors there or pieces sold in antique stores?

Well yes, it's the same basic concept. There were a whole bunch of other 'trapdoor' designs, including the Snider, that various nations developed to bridge the gap between muzzle-loading rifled muskets and purpose-built single shot metallic cartridge rifles. The difference with the US was that they kept and refined the trapdoor design until they adopted a magazine-fed smokeless cartridge rifle.

the remington was by far the biggest selling rifle of its day.seemed to break down like this europe and the states wanted to use a cheaper home made weapon such as the springfield or martini henry yet remingtons sold by the thousands to colonial troops emerging nations etc.it seemed to be by far the most preferred and reliable weapon on the market bought by anyone needing weapons in a hurry whilst their own were being developed.as to reliability it was reported during the sudan campaign of 1884 that the dervish army armed with remingtons captured from the egyptians didnt seem to suffer the jamming problems and fouling issues martinis did.this was in part to the army being issued old style rolled brass cartridges from the reserve which split in the breech leaving the weapon useless.the .45 springfield i know from the bighorn had similar problems.i wonder if sherman thought the ejection system on the rolling block better.it does seem however that anyone in those days who had a choice unrestricted by national pride or governments seeking to reuse old weapons or other political considerations chose the remington.in fact so many rebel type armies had it it might be considered the ak47 of its day ! turned up all over the world.

@@mikekemp9877 Haha, calling it the AK of its day certainly seems accurate, I know the rolling block popped up all over South America. Thanks for an informative and detailed reply!

Several folk (including me) have done videos comparing them. I personally find the Trapdoor just a hair faster to reload than the RB, but the Sharps .50-70 carbine and the English Martini Henry (.577-450_ are even faster to reload. That said RB sold or licensed for manufacture their guns wherever they could (even the Vatican bought them) while Congress had forbidden Springfield to directly arm France for their war with Germany and after that completed .45-70 Trapdoors stayed in inventory and only parts went to Bannerman.

There's also the price difference between a conversion and a new build. Before WW2, the US Army was very poorly funded, so stretching the dollar as far as possible was the order of the day. Which was another advantage for the trapdoor.

I very much doubt if the Martini-Henry was cheaper than a Remington Rolling Block. Were you thinking of the Snider-Enfield Enfield, which was a breech-loading conversion, contemporary to the Trapdoor Springfield?

@@mathy4605 Ouch! No thanks. A Sharps 50 is bad enough, and a carbine would be worse.

@@jonminer9891 LoL, I enjoy shooting my Sharps 50-70 carbine. Decent woods gun for deer (esp with hollow point SWC type bullets).

I just bought an 1884 model and its so fun to shoot. Definitely get one if you ever have the chance!

Yellow Boy or Spencer, if you could find Spencer ammo. :)

Because law makers are dumb

@@adrikboyd9942 hopefully they don't decide to change it tho

It needs to use cartridges to be considered a firearm. That's more or less it. New manufacturered black powder cartridge guns are considered guns under the law

black powder muzzleloaders are not legally classified as true firearms because it's just a pipe and then all pipes would be guns

@@erikbergstrom258 Well yeah that's true. Give me 30 minutes and I could make a shotgun out of two pipes and scrap.

Or, at least, Many Seconds to Few Seconds. Because 3rd/min is pretty achievable with a Minie--style rifle musket with a percussion lock, for a trained and practiced soldier. Heck, there are hobbyists who do it without much strain (I'm not one of them, full disclosure).

@@kenbrown2808 I always thought that it was because the colonial militia was very fast reaction force, that they was ready in very short time, hence the name minuteman.

@@kenbrown2808 Well my day just started, but thanks anyway.

I can make two rounds per minute with a Hawken rifle, which is obviously slower than a Minié-type rifle, and I'm not even any good.

Its about two hours early. Normally i catch this just as its uploaded while on my lunch break.

@@high633 your lunch break is at 6am

@@17njl01 im night shift so its at 3am my time(1 hour 44 min from now).

@@high633 So you have lunch exactly at noon. Atleast from my point of view...

So innocent yet so ominous of a comment

@@bigby1530 lol, ok I love my Springfield Trapdoor Model 1873.

Lol same

Hello what’s your bid

Brass cartridge cases and better tactics would have been enough.

There's absolutely no relation at all between the Springfield that produced your guns and the one that made that trapdoor.

Yes he does.

And it is kind of a toss up as to whether the spur trigger rimfire guns or the European Bulldogs were the pistol that won the West. Hollywood aside they were way more affordable and common than the 1873 Colts.

You’ll probably find Cholera & smallpox won the west

Yes, it was. Infantry load was 45-70-405 paired with the cavalry load of 45-55-405. When the move was made to 45-70-500 (500gr bullet vs 405), the cavalry stayed with their old load. A full power load through the carbine will help you develop a healthy flinch, it’s quite evil.

@@danceswithbadgers534 thank you my friend

True. It had little to do with recoil (as gun magazine myth claims). For both the US and England it was about the full load of black powder not being consumed in the shorter barrel so that maybe 10 or more grains would just fall on the ground unburnt in front of the shooter. Why waste powder when you have a budget? The performance difference for the kind of fighting troops with carbines did was minimal and at the same time you could still use the rifle ammo in the carbine, or even the carbine ammo in the rifle if you absolutely had to.

It's not a framerate issue, but there is motion blur happening. You get a good clear view when the camera is stationary and focused right on the spot of interest. When the camera is moving those frames will have motion blur. The only way to fix this is to throw tonnes more light onto the set (4-8x more light would be great) so that the camera can shoot crisper, non-blurry frames. Shooting at 60fps or 120fps would also help because faster frames are crisper frames, but they'd still need the extra light and that has the expense of buying a new camera.

As I recall, the manufactured cartridge box will state that the loading is ..."safe for black-powder firearms in good condition..." or such. Remington 45-70 used to have something like it. ALWAYS run an old find firearm through an expert/gunsmith before firing, please.

45/70 smokeless load is about 35grn. Lee makes a hand load kit with a scoop and loading data.

Also they already had 33,000 .50-70 Sharps conversion carbines, and another 40,000 or so leftover Spencer carbines for a total US Army of only 12,000 (includes cavalry, infantry and artillery) due to post Civil War downsizing. So a great need for more carbines of trapdoor type wasn't felt until the Army decided to retire and sell off all of the old Civil War guns in favor of the new .45-70 guns which were thinner and lighter than the old .50-70 guns.

The ejectors were fine, the problem was that early cartridge cases were copper, and if they became stuck in the chamber the extractor could tear through the case rim. When they changed to brass, the problem went away.

From what I have read and the evidence found at the battlefield, it happened but not at the rate it's been reported. More of a numbers issue and lack of cover. Reno and Benteen's soldiers held off the same force with the same guns but with a better defensive position.

Can't. The Trapdoor design is too weak for .30-30 pressures.

True in 1866, but by 1873 the Spencer ammo was getting scarce, .50-70 had been retired in favor of the less expensive (less brass, less lead, so less weight too) .45-70 round. The knowledge the caliber and gun change was coming is probably why they didn't turn out lots of carbines in 1870.

@@kenibnanak5554: the Spencer was replaced by .50-70 Sharps well before 1873. The .45-70 Springfield then replaced the Sharps, starting in 1873. The Seventh Cavalry received their Springfields in 1874, in time for the Black Hills expedition.

Iain has done a few videos on operating mechanisms -- search for "forgotten weapons how does it work"

You probably would have seen a rethink about tactics. Really fast

He has to get his hands on one first.

I have never hated a comment so much while loving it

@@bigby1530 Thank you

@@duneydan7993 thank you

@@bigby1530 how was the meme? "I've never been so offended by something I so 100% agree with." XD

@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 didn't feel like repeating the same line

Black powder had a pretty hard limit as to how fast it could throw a bullet, so the only way to increase stopping power was to shoot a bigger projectile. 0.50 caliber was pretty average for the time when talking about military longarms.

Left over percussion rifle hammers.

Below