meanwhile it is important not to forget that the sound quality of lp playback mainly depends on the cartridge & the phono preamp the look is perfect no doubt

I agree with your reasoning, but hopefully these well off clients should be aware that they can get the same sound quality at a much cheaper price….but I forgot that these are not audiophiles!

@@mariocassar3117 please don't take my comment is critical but have you ever actually heard high-end systems? I mean you do get your money's worth by the way. In Atlanta at a shop I had the opportunity to hear hear three different systems back to back. The first one was a Rega /kef system probably costing somewhere around 2500 bucks. The second was a NAD Masters series system with even higher end kef speakers probably costing somewhere around $15,000. And the third system that I heard was a audio research/ vandersteen system probably costing somewhere around a quarter of a million dollars. All of them sounded great but as the price went up the sound quality got even better. To me the cheapest system had great drive and energy and regardless of what was playing you felt like you could really feel the music. The mid-price system really had this great sense of emotional connection to the music, like you could almost feel the intent behind what the singer or the musician was trying to do, but you lost some of that energy and drive of the entry level system. Moving up to the quarter million system it really brought everything together in kind of a Best of both worlds type thing. You got the emotional impact and a sense of musical truth of the mid price system but you got the energy and drive of the entry-level Rega system. Like I said all of these systems sounded great and I could happily live with any of them and be musically satisfied. But don't confuse it as you spend more money you do get more and if you don't think so it's because you really haven't heard high-end systems. Remember you don't know what something is until you truly experience it.

Great reasoning and eloquently put. Pricing is all relative. A person scraping together enough $ for the next meal would think $7 Starbucks drink is insane. Glad you liked the video, from the analytics most folks bailed out about the 2 min mark :-).

a relationship with your sales person can be very productive in matching product to one's needs. But good buying information is best built from a variety of sources. For this kind of money, there is a lot of competition in a market that traditionally has boutique builders finding favor among audiophiles. however, the big guys can afford processes and materials that little guys can' t, in some designs.

I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting as it really helps the video get promoted.

I like the idea of tonearm cables without breaks I them. It's the most critical wire in an audio system as it carries the smallest signal and is most susceptible to interference. Thanks for sharing.

well today all is worst not like they use to make it and the direct drive today uses not quartz engines but older ones like i have in other turntables older that worjk today after so many hours of use, i remenber that instead of the turntable i could had bought a BMW 535i but i kept driving my 76 523i , but music is my hobby since i was four years old ,i ´ve seen the footage and saw myself playing and singing and tunning the steel strings of a wooden child guitar and sounded ok with my voice, this in 8mm and sound in a reel

But…still waaay overpriced for what it offers…..the AT clone with a good cartridge and phono preamp sounds almost quite as good!

Thanks for the input. Noted Nicholas.

until you crank up the volume and the feedback is so bad your woofer cones end up on the floor. :-0

I thought he was a little causal with the details , for such an expensive product. But it might have be done in the course of brevity. The " we shook the table to test the isolation feet" was complete nonsense, acoustic energy from the speakers doesn't move the table, which kind of undercuts their position of expertise with turntable function.

interesting that the drive system is paramount in your buying decision.

Glad to help. Please keep us in mind when you're ready to step up.

Meant to cover that in the video, made a quick mention of it and forgot to re-visit. Thanks so much for clarifying sir.

more features equates to more value for some people that just want to play records. An audiophile knows the everything vibrates at some level and contaminates the signal, so they strip away features in interest of performance , preferring to spend the money on the basics, like a better tone arm instead of a light show .

The opposite, it would be bizarre to get rid of pitch/speed adjustment. Audiophiles are perfectionists: if they know a record was recorded/mastered at an incorrect speed, they want to correct it using that pitch fader. Strobe OTOH is something that can be removed though, because the typical audiophile has multiple strobe discs anyways...

I would be sad to see the strobe deleted on the G. My guess is if the pitch controls go so does the strobe. Are you ok with that? If so save some $ and buy the SL1500C!

@@SkyFiAudio Pitch control can easily exist without the strobe, because they're separate parts of the circuitry, both are hooked up to the central microcontroller. In fact, the strobe is a PCB with a cable and connector that connects to the main board: you could unplug it to disable it. But the mains power input switch is also on there; you'd need to run two separate wires for that switch. So it's definitely possible to redesign the electronics without the strobe (or reduce it to just 1 row), but with pitch controls.

I found one new, not too long ago. Seller probably didn't know SME stopped selling them as spares. A silver SME V no less! Normally only the IV is silver; custom colors had to be special orders... Sounds great on my 1200G.

Good to know, that was the first time I've seen that connector. Cheers

I did that, I gave it some extra love with a 2M blue (I already had it) but Iman sure dreaming of a real 1200. There is several companies like Funkfirm which claim that they can enhance 1500 also.

Yes I would have been interested in one if it looked like the 1500.

My thoughts exactly. Now that Technics have versions of the 1200 aimed at the audiophile market, I feel they are missing an opportunity by only offering DJ deck looks. What I would really like is something that looks like the SL1000 but essentially a 1200 under the skin (motor, plinth materials and platter) with or without tonearm. A high value-for-money package with true audiophile appeal.

There is quite a lot of controversy on this topic. Bottom line is Technics can barely keep up with demand on the GR2 and G despite the DJ looks so why mess with a winning formula? I personally love the strobe on the platter and would hate for it to go away just to get rid of the pitch control.

Brain or heart surgeon? :) Awesome gear man

@@dougg1075 Ha. Thanks, it's been a long journey. (General Contractor.)

Nice setup. I agree, tough to beet at any price. Sure you can spend more $ but at that point you are paying for marketing and exclusivity, not technology. This thing is a technical tour du force.

Agreed, there is certainly a few holes in the Technics lineup. Hopefully they will come out with a few more models.

Wow you must have been an early adopter. 7 years takes you back to the beginning. Nice to hear someone has had one that long and is still happy. Thanks for sharing the list. Would love to see the ruby bearings on the current lineup.

@@SkyFiAudio Yes, I was just too late to get one of the first 1200 of them, which were limited edition (1200GAE). Those went for the same price as the regular 1200G (3500 euros), while the differences are solely cosmetic, it would've been nice though. I remember being a little bit disappointed about it, but I don't mind anymore. Now that they're not made in japan anymore, while being 1 grand more expensive, means I *still* got a great bargain, despite missing out on those limited ones!

Sorry guys. I stand corrected, US market tables don’t come in a wooden crate. Saw it in an unboxing video and assumed they all came that way.

but you only have 2 arms. What are you doing with 3 tables? lol.

That black arm is one of their past tonearms, I think that one was designed back in the early 80s.

Yes that tone arm is considered vintage at this point. Send us a note and we'll let you know when we get another one.

You're spot on. A table is only as good as the setup that was performed. The LP12 doesn't travel as well as the Technics so it's critical that a local shop calibrates it, preferably in the owners listening room so that nothing gets disturbed. This is where the Technics shine, since they were originally designed as DJ tables they are super rugged. We are able to calibrate one and ship it with 100% confidence that it will arrive the same.

Value is only subjective . I certainly agree with you, but on the other hand, maybe everybody over at Panasonic needs a new boat. what chaps my hide are the obscene profit margins asked for phono cartridges. Granted, the market for pedestrian wrist watches is bigger, but they also require high precision manufacturing , plus require a lot more parts and assembly, and often sport a jewelry quality face plate for a few hundred dollars.

The 1200 tables have strobe light markings, the SL-1000R does not.

gee whiz guy, they did put in a whole second set of offset coils to help reduce the cogging effect of their drive system , and the consumer is now free to buy their own head shell and connecting cables. I'm sure the list price is entirely fictional in many markets outside of the U.S.

there has been so much work Technics put into the 1000R, it offers excellent performance for the price. The speed accuracy and stability alone is among the best I have heard on any table. Much better than the old 1200MK3 or 7 and better than the new G. The super rich are buying tables in the 200K to 500k range.

The turntable itself is on another level way beyond what they offered in 1979 on the SP-10mk2 and is even better than the mk3. That said, I do wonder if the older EPA-250 and 500 are better arms. I waffle between getting the complete SL-1000R in time or just the new SP-10R and using a vintage EPA tonearm (I like the Technics arm for how it allows such ease in adjusting the arm height, including while a record is playing). I do like how the complete SL-1000r looks though...

@@martinmelucci4383 no clue on how the EPA arm would compare. Completely agree with comments on the earlier models. Had almost all of them. One other thought. If you are considering the new SP-10R into an older chassis, another option would the Kuzma 4 point. The old chassis do not have the damping the 1000R chassis does though.

Blah blah blah.

I would agree with you as long as it does all that without complaining :-).

You just can't afford a 20k turntable, let's put it the other way.

Mine does all that plus a few more options for about $49000. Very happy with the unit.

Koliko koštaju neki gramofoni 300,000 $,Tehnics R-10000 vrijedi svaki peni,vjerovatno od svih H-end gramofona najjeftiniji a najbolji odnos kupljeno-dobiveno!!!!

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I really thought the same until I heard one. Once you hear the 1000R really tough to return. I sold my 1200G and put my order in for the 1000R. Pretty long waiting list right now.

20k? try an sma anniversary they kicked off at 30 plus a lapis cartridge etc etc and your into the high end

@@knoxyish was thinking more like 60 to 100K. Then goes up from there.

Before you make stupid, ignorant comments, you should do some research. In 2018, when Trump was president, the Technics SL-1000R cost $20k. Therefore, what does President Biden, or any president, for that matter, have to do with the price of this turntable?

It was a joke. Hit a nerve I see which was my intention. Every other piece of decent equipment including vintage items on eBay went up by 20% +. Thanks Joe!

the Price would be $27,899 without NVIDIAOMICS

@@JasonGS919 Some people have to make everything political , even turntable discussions. I am glad I have varied and diverse interests.

@@mbf9690 everybody who ever makes some kind of stupid statement always claims it was just a joke when they get called out. the statement obviously worked towards your stated intention to be a troll , but not as clearly obvious humor. like what jokes are.

Cogging is and has always been unadulterated BS. At best, it's a theoretical electrical "defect". Belt driven turtables cannot match rotational precision of quartz controlled direct drives by an order of magnitude regardless of, or if, cogging was ever a factor. Despite that, Technics designed a motor that eliminates the "problem". The retatiomal stability of the SL1000R can only be bested by a motor controlled by an atomic clock! It's wow and flutter are so low they are basically unmeasurable! Its better than any record cutter lathe ever devised!😅

@@Wised1000 Yes, I know, and agree with you. BUT why does HiFi need to have things made out of unobtainium and then goldplated?- it makes no difference, it really doesn't. And let's not forget all the hype, tripe and BS to go with it: Well, you put this on , and it does this and sound like this etc. 99.99% of the time it either makes no difference OR you're just listening to artefacts, nothing else. Really good components are inaudible, they are transparent in the signal path. THEY SHOULD NOT AND DO NOT HAVE A SOUND WHEN DESIGNED CORRECTLY.

​@@davidcarr2216 Its called the law of diminishing returns. You can buy an excellent Yamaha baby grand piano for about 20k or opt for a similar Steinway and pay 100k. They are both excellent instruments, but one has its own particular tone that people are more than willing to pay 5 times as much!

Easily found in a quick search. HFNRR tested it as: Rumble (silent groove, DIN B wtd): -74.9dB Rumble (through bearing, DIN B wtd): -74.1dB

reports say it is little off the pace nowaday, unless you just like the looks . Not to imply it isn't good, the last audio design from old man Michell was modifying a Rega arm to approximate the sound of a V tonearm on a Michell gyro.

and it is