It seems like the guy with the warhammer always wins

@@tayloraustin1997he kinda ignores the Stabs in the weak points

@@anthuan2028this always struck me as strange in their duels, why use the rondel if you are ignoring the hits at all?

@@Williazzzz he’s a buhurt fighter, from what I get he’s not used to recognizing imaginary hits

It makes sense to train past those points in the exchange, no all stabs into maille are effective. But the stabs to the armpit and groin looked like they landed solid

😉 Not that easy but we try that often. You can see it in the three headed flail video.

Maybe you can just run away if you are not in full armor? I bet there is no way he can catch you while wearing those😮

@@hahayuer6186 You can run in armour

@@searaider3340 sure but not as fast as those not wearing one?

​@@hahayuer6186 Indeed you can, if well-trained enough. Armour is not nearly as hindering or heavy as popular media would like you to believe.

it seems to me that a guy with grappling skills and a dagger would be really deadly, i thought daggers would not be as usefull against armored opponents but it seems like something suprisingly effective, i guess spear is just a big stick with a dagger and hence it's massive use almost making it a "standard weapon" of choice

They only pull their shots with the rondel it seems

​@@unskilled822 the entire reason daggers work against armor is because theyre small, and small means it goes through the little holes in armor easier than a big stick That being said, under the metal plates theres usually even MORE armor (cloth and chainmail) which daggers cant really get through.

@@chieckenman4432yes however no armor is invulnerable they have a bunch of gaps despite how much armor one can wear, those gaps can be sealed but that means becoming a literal rock without any flexibility let alone fighting

sure though!

May you and your childs stay save.

@@dequitem thank you very much man, and to you and your companions. Although I still don't have a child and wont for some time, i'm now considering naming him Dequitem😂😂 (jk I ll name him godefroy de bouillon before that😂)

​@@mtathos_ I would also suggest Baldwin as a name, or if you want to go into ancient history you could always do the extremely historical name, Dan.

😂

This is what a 12 gauge was invented for...

Women will see this and say "Hell yeah!"

But it will hurt your butt 😜

@@dequitem Sun Tzu once said "Sit on man and you get poked in butt"

Heavily armoured fights don't get to grapple to win points, they get to grapple because the fighters are too exhausted to keep wrestling with their big weapons. You definitely do what you can to avoid the grapple & to gain maximum advantage when you're in one, but the enemy has a say too... Historically, armoured individuals like these are rare & often valuable, so the downed individual would usually not actually be killed, but taken for ransom.

@@corvanphoenix That's my point. These guys are going to the grapple because they will win the fight that way, I'm suggesting that if you were really playing for keeps you're less likely to go there until you have to and fighting to exhaustion might be a reason why, though if you're that gassed on a battlefield, you might be in trouble regardless of how your knife fight went. That said, these are simulations of duels, not battlefield combat. Though I think people knew they might be ransomed, I'm sure most of them knew it wasn't a guarantee. I suppose if your planning to yield, or call for surrender, going to daggers might make that more likely, but in the thick of things you're also very likely to get stuck like a pig too, so it's all a gamble I suppose.

@@Lurklen Europeans have this unfortunate pastime of trying to ethnically cleanse one another, leaving fighting to the death as the only option.

But this one is a reupload.

@@dequitemStill counts, Thanks!

sounds interesting.

@@dequitem a shield with trappings on the front , a wire net or basket hilt design maybe .

It feels like the difficulty with that would be adding weight and giving more places for the opponent to land square strikes in exchange for maybe disarming him. Possibly a useful gimmick in sporting duels, but definitely not in real mass combat.

Проткнул паховую зону(задел артерию) Укол в подмышку тоже опасно.

Yes I did in the past.

I am the one on the ground.

​@@dequitemAutsch 🤕

I like longer flails! The striking head of a buhurt mace is actually heavier. In the end it's preverence and a longer flail with more counterweight at the butt didn't help in close combat, but strikes harder in distance.

There are many poleaxe videos on my channel.

Hab ein Video zu meiner Rüstung. Wir benutzen 1mm aber nur gehärteter Stahl. Also nichts aus Indien!

​@@dequitem Cool, da schau ich mal direkt rein.

What question?

Зачем у бойца саботоны? Всегда думал что носят только время кавалеристской схватки с пехотой.@@dequitem

Yes that strike ripped the linen and wood.

Titanium for the most parts to prevent rust and hardened steel in the helmet, because it's the most protective. Not much damage, only smallest dents.

@@dequitem damn okay, i've heared titanium was too light and lacked the inertia of steel to reduce shocks, is that true? (Also i believe titanium is springy but will break very quickly when bent permanently)

Yes, hardened steel is better but I often Film in wet places.

not much difference, we both would be dead in the end and the mace didnt do anything than make you feel pain.

Doesn't sound like a knightly combination, but one day for sure!

yes I did a mistake with the color grading.

Both risking all and Fight with full of their power

They go full force. There is a common misconception about the effectivness of the mace. In reality a historical mace only weigh approx 3.5lbs. Anyway he is in a debate is scholagladiatoria about the effectivness of the mace in armoured combat. He went on to say that Dequitem uses Buhurt maces that weigh 2.2lbs. So he busts out a historically accurate mace just to prove that they arn't as effective as they are represented. So yes this was full force.

Just bashing the shit out of each other. But a flail isn't the best dueling weapon, so we quickly tryed wrestling and dagger fighting.

I have a short were it happened.

Kind of. You wanna stay in distance we're you can control the fight. Close combat is nasty and there the possibility of both fighters dying is higher.

I had some bruises the next day, but the headache from the punches was harder.

I like warhammers more, but u use the same moves et for both weapons.

ANOTHER BATTLE BROTHERS PLAYER!!!

Not true. You can find a video about this topic on my channel!

you are wrong

But that's not fun to watch and the video was made to prove that maces are garbage!

I think because in a clinch you're able to get to the vitals using a dagger and finish the fight faster. In others, knight meta.

Because a shield bash dont kill your opponent, a dagger does!

What the fuck are you talking. No one aims for the shield. If you hit the knee nothing will happen. There are Videos where I bash his knee, it didn't hurt him at all. The only weak point is the head, and that's were you aiming for. You are a couch warrior and never had a helmet on. You know nothing about vision and the effects of armor to a fight. I did my researche and tests on the highest possible level. I know what I talking and show. Even if there were mistakes in the fight, than it would be fine because it's a fight and not a choreography were everybody knows what he has to do. Humans dio mistakes when they fight. Even real knights!

@@dequitem LOL Nothing will happen if you hit the knee huh. Never seen what happens to someone when their knee folds sideways have you? They wont walk for months. This armor has nothing to prevent that from happening. If you two actually hit each other with the intention to kill the style of fighting would be completely different. Everyone knows you can not do that and you are holding back your strikes. The fact is these weapons were designed to counter that armor. To smash joints and break bones. Yes it is still very good defense against the hammer/mace but with full power hits joints will bend and twist ways they were never ment to go. The knee will bend or hyper extend in ways it can not go without severe injury. You can insult me all you like and pretend you are being accurate but you are wrong. You smash that knee backwards or sideways they will fall. This isnt some deep medieval fighting secret it is just basic biology. The head is not the only weak spot. Not by a long shot.

@@plaid13 :D I see you never tryed it. We dont hold back, because we normaly dont have to. By knee is locked in armor, it cant bend it sitways if you didnt bend the armor and you will not bend it that significantly from a normal strike, but good luck trying it :D There is also a good reason why no historical source show attaks to the kneeplate, only in the back of the knee where is no armor.

If that isnt holding back you need to do it more often and build some strength and speed. If you cant bend a knee sideways with a mace/hammer shot to the knee through that armor you need lots of work. Only held together with some rivets and leather right? Thin mild steel unless you didnt make it even remotely accurate. It will bend or pop a rivet the knee only needs to go a fraction of an inch maybe a half cm to go out. Of course I am assuming at least the armor is historically accurate and you didnt use modern materials. Doesnt quite look like it should. Bit dull and dark for normal mild steel. The steels they would have used at the time would not have been able to take a blow from a hammer or mace without deforming some unless thicker and curved like a breast plate or helmet would be. I havnt gotten a great look at that knee joint on your armor maybe you have some real interesting design but all the historical armor i have seen has rivets that allow it to hinge They are loose enough to pivot and flex and the steel will bend. Its dull and not polished and its not rusting. I would almost guess it was stainless steel of some sort but that would be too soft. Is it steel at all? Didnt make a whole set of armor out of titanium did you? I imagine that could be tough enough to take blows without deforming at the thickness and weight you would need for armor. Even if it was a good solid hit with a mace or hammer would cause that joint to deform and bend to the side. Unless of course the weapons are lighter than they should be. I have not done armored fighting but I do know enough about biology and metal working to understand nothing in a suit of steel plate armor is enough to stop a knee joint from going side ways when hit with a couple pounds of steel swung hard when someone has their weight on it.

​​​​​​​@@plaid13You are right and you know a lot. But they don't have the goal of injuring and killing each other. This is prohibited by law